I am seriously plot-deprived. Always. But I can usually find a few suggestions each year in the "Adopt a Plot" thread. This year I find mostly zombies, alien worlds, romance between aliens and zombies and teenage angst between zombies and, you guessed it, aliens. Does anyone here write something else and have some unloved plot bunnies hanging about that you might be willing to share?
My first attempt at writing was a sort of variation on Charles Bronson in Death Wish - an average office type with the same motivation as Bronson/Batman etc but with no finance, superpowers, military training or anything. Just an inept vigilante type who blunders around with some accidental success, becomes a suspect for a murder he didn't commit and gets more involved than he wants to be with an amorous neighbour. It has none of the things you mention and murdering people with whom you have no link should be easy if you think about- until you do actually think about it.
No zombies, vampires or werewolves in my writing. There are times when it feels very lonely in here, but I'd rather have my relatively human characters.
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I'd like to write...even read...a really good end of the world book (On The Beach, Alas Babylon) without zombies! What is it with zombies and vampires?
I am kinda doing an alien thing but in my story it is normal everyday house cats that will save the day, nothing to unbelievable. Well. Once you get past the whole alien thing. :)
Jayneypops, I just looked it up in the Urban Dictionary because I didn't know either.
Quoted: Steampunk is a subgenre of speculative fiction, usually set in an anachronistic Victorian or quasi-Victorian alternate history setting. It could be described by the slogan "What the past would look like if the future had happened sooner." It includes fiction with science fiction, fantasy or horror themes.
My favorite example of Steampunk is an on-line graphic novel called Girl Genius. http://girlgeniusonline.com/ Since it's on-line it's easy to check! This one has a lot of steam-age tech, which is just one area of steampunk. But it's a beautifully drawn comic.
The Victorians loved new gadgets and steam power was their newest baby...someone said, it's futuristic Victoriana (anyone for steam powered jetpacks? Yikes!) or "Yesterday's tomorrow" And today, someone has designed a PC that would look at home on Jules Verne's Nautilus all brass bound with old-style typewriter keys and gears and widgets galore the keyboard can be yours for $1,000...I'm just saying Who knew?
I'm unspeakably bored by zombies, vampires, werewolves, et al. The only thing that consistently tempts me is the post-apocalyptic novel--I suppose that's my fallback or default choice.
I decided on steampunk basically because I am re-writing a very old story that my father used to read to me as a child. I wanted to really twist it in a new direction, and at first thought about setting it in a present-day, urban environment and then decided that an alternate-world/steampunk treatment would be a lot more fun.
Also, I'd always intended this to be a fully illustrated novel, and steampunk suits my artwork.
I love steampunk too. Sometime I want to make a steampunk dollshouse (I love making dollshouses). My novel is not really steampunk, but some of the objects will be kind of steampunkish.
Anyone who is unfamiliar -- well, google steampunk, you'll get hits galore. Especially fun to do this with "images". From what I've seen the new Three Musketeers movie is going to be tres silly, but will have fun steampunkishness going on.
I Thought I would try a "Who Done It". This year for fun, I have set it in the just post world war two era to pick up on the restlessness of the returning soldiers to create the mild chaos I needed. Very mainstream this time.
For you try being random:
Take a world history book and think of a number, open to that page, there is your era!
Roll the dice, the number on top is your number of Main Characters.
Get out the Thesaurus choose seven interesting words and start writing to include them in a story...a plot will grow. Good Luck!
Well, I did have an idea for a zombie short-short story, but I can't imagine doing a whole novel about them. Hard to come up with anything new, zombies traditionally not having much personality and absolutely no social skills. Maybe a charm school or dating club for zombies??
I would love to help you out, but I have a hard enough time finding ideas for myself. I'm with you about the zombie, vampire thing. Not my genre. Don't read it, don't care.
You might try going to the library and reading newspaper headlines. That might spark something. Go to a bar or coffee shop and eavesdrop. Or, there are a lot of books about generating ideas. I know my library has one called "The Writer's Idea Book".
I have never written about zombies or vampires or even werewolves. Real people seem odd enough to me.
My main characters usually show up in my dreams, that's where I find them. Also other people's overheard cell phone conversations always contain juicy bits of dialgue prompts.
Take a good look at what you read most. Which genre? That might be a good jumping off place to start.
I'm with Rutabaker. Real people are plenty for me! I've lived long enough to hear enough fantastic stories to have plenty of ammunition. Also I became fascinated with the idea of "revenge" which I find gives you plenty of fodder for plots using real people! Travor
I'm with RutaBaker. Real people are odd enough for me, especially the ones in my stories.
When my children were small, my husband and I tag team parented rather than use daycare or after school care. This meant that I'd arrive home after a work shift to being essentially a single mom to two small girls. By the time they were ready for bedtime stories, I was tired.
I'd lie on the floor of their room with the lights out and tell them to give me three things. They could be objects, characters, locations. It didn't matter what. Then I'd spin them into a story.
The advantage? I could do it with my eyes closed.
You might want to try a variation on this. Far more interesting than beings that can't even manage to die properly.
I'm not into vampires, zombies, aliens, etc. either. My novel will be very firmly grounded in this world--more specifically, in the world I know-- as are the short stories I've written. I draw on my own experiences, get inspiration from my work, people I've known, my own life. If you're interested in doing mainstream or realistic fiction, there are plenty of potential stories all around you. Everyday, even seemingly humdrum life has dramatic potential.
I also find Zombies to be somewhat repetitive in that they are always pretty much the same monster. Unlike Vampires, which have been re-invented as sexy immortals with that one annoying flaw (you know that whole 'people are their food' thing). I have been reading some indie fiction about Zombies and, although well written from a technical standpoint, the subject matter is still repetitive. Just kill off the last of these SOB's please.
Science fiction - and now Steampunk fiction, have an attraction since the author decides what is real within the confines of the plot.
Good Luck
Oh, and my plot involves the return of the Gods of ancient mythology to the modern world.
Core idea for my novel came from pulling out and looking at my (now) old copy of the Parinoia XP game. The proposal for the new complex for Apple that looked like a mother ship was most inspiration as I took the idea in a diferent direction with an "eye" phone and an "eye" pad (the eye represents the computer). Added a few characters and hopefully I have a novel.
Update: I finally realized my novel is going to be a satire. It wasn't really all that science fiction, didn't have enough horror, and definitely no zombies, and there wasn't much suspense, so satire it is. So things like this makes sense (note I don't have anyone yet ready to actually say these things.
"According to Four Radical Rules by Monica Lewinsky, revolutions should be done, 'top down, bottom up and inside out.'"
"What does that mean?"
"It means we first make you think too much. The we make you run around too much. Then we poison your Bouncy Bubble Beverage so you throw up; that's the inside out part."
I'm not doing a zombie novel. However, the idea of perhaps a ninja zombie intrigues me. Not as a novel . . . but heck! Ninja! And Zombie! Now that would be cool. Would it be a fast-moving, flesh eating, killing machine? Or a slow moving, highly ineffectual assassin?
Uhhh, as for plot stories . . . hope you find something that excites you. :-)
I think it's original. It's actually told from the point of view of the ghost, who has found out information about how the zombie apocalypse started and how they could deal with it. If only he could find a way to tell someone.
And thanks. I'll keep you in mind when I get the complete first draft finished.
That is definitely an original take on the Zombie Apocalypse. I can imagine the frustration of the ghost who is trying to get this information into the right hands, and the further frustration of the person or persons who are successfully contacted when they try to pass the information on.
What if you found out the best Zombie fighter in your group of survivors was a vampire. He can't feed on the zombies and he has a vested interest in keeping you all alive. Do you kill the vampire and lose one of your best assets? How do you feel about being a food source in the long term? Sure beats being a quick one time snack to the zombies but still.
I've been away for a few days and am really happy to come back and see all these responses! I just figured the whole world had gone '"twilight" on me or something. I'm sure vampires and zombies and changelings and stuff are fine, but I was dumbfounded to find so many people are writing that genre. Guess there are mostly young writers here...maybe I'm just older than I think (HA). I will take some of your suggestions (most especially the idea to stock up on chocolate and caffeine!) and keep looking. Always open to new suggestions. Thanks. Happy writing! See you at the finish line and in the coffee line between now and then.
Does anyone write something other than zombies?
I am seriously plot-deprived. Always. But I can usually find a few suggestions each year in the "Adopt a Plot" thread. This year I find mostly zombies, alien worlds, romance between aliens and zombies and teenage angst between zombies and, you guessed it, aliens. Does anyone here write something else and have some unloved plot bunnies hanging about that you might be willing to share?
Re: Does anyone write something other than zombies?
My first attempt at writing was a sort of variation on Charles Bronson in Death Wish - an average office type with the same motivation as Bronson/Batman etc but with no finance, superpowers, military training or anything.
Just an inept vigilante type who blunders around with some accidental success, becomes a suspect for a murder he didn't commit and gets more involved than he wants to be with an amorous neighbour.
It has none of the things you mention and murdering people with whom you have no link should be easy if you think about- until you do actually think about it.
Re: Does anyone write something other than zombies?
No zombies, vampires or werewolves in my writing. There are times when it feels very lonely in here, but I'd rather have my relatively human characters.
Re: Does anyone write something other than zombies?
I'd like to write...even read...a really good end of the world book (On The Beach, Alas Babylon) without zombies! What is it with zombies and vampires?
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Maybe its an age thing!
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I just noticed this morning that Easton Press has a 'The Day After Doomday" series. It includes the following:
- Earth Abides
- I Am Legend
- On the Beach
- Alas Babylon
- Lucifer's Hammer
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I am kinda doing an alien thing but in my story it is normal everyday house cats that will save the day, nothing to unbelievable. Well. Once you get past the whole alien thing. :)
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I don't always write about zombies. This is the first year that I'm trying a zombie novel. Last year was steampunk. The year before was urban fantasy.
Don't have any plot bunnies at the moment. Did you know the genre you wanted to write in? Fantasy, romance, paranormal, litfic?
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Im not into Zombies but I fear I may become one by the end of November!
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LOL Janey! You and me both. Must stock up the caffeine and chocolate
I don't 'do' zombies - never seen the attraction in all these gazillion of 'Twilight' spin-offs.
I'm writing another humorous whodunit - I've plenty of ideas for plots for those, but not a lot else.
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Yes and a few Gin & Tonics!
A humorous whodunnit sounds good
5 days to go and Im still undecided, a thriller, a romance, Im slightly leaning towards a Romantic comedy
Could somebody explain Steampunk? Ive no idea what that is!
J
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Jayneypops, I just looked it up in the Urban Dictionary because I didn't know either.
Quoted: Steampunk is a subgenre of speculative fiction, usually set in an anachronistic Victorian or quasi-Victorian alternate history setting. It could be described by the slogan "What the past would look like if the future had happened sooner." It includes fiction with science fiction, fantasy or horror themes.
Strange. I still don't think I know what it is!!
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My favorite example of Steampunk is an on-line graphic novel called Girl Genius. http://girlgeniusonline.com/ Since it's on-line it's easy to check! This one has a lot of steam-age tech, which is just one area of steampunk. But it's a beautifully drawn comic.
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Girl Genius! Great read. I was hooked when I noticed the artwork was the same people who did What's New from the old Dragon Magazine. Fun story.
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Wonderful storyline.
I've enjoyed Phil Foglio for years. Some of his illustrations were used in Robert Lynn Aspirin's Skeeve and Aahz series.
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Thanks for looking that up - Yes its um a bit out there!
J
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The Victorians loved new gadgets and steam power was their newest baby...someone said, it's futuristic Victoriana (anyone for steam powered jetpacks? Yikes!) or "Yesterday's tomorrow" And today, someone has designed a PC that would look at home on Jules Verne's Nautilus all brass bound with old-style typewriter keys and gears and widgets galore the keyboard can be yours for $1,000...I'm just saying Who knew?
Re: Does anyone write something other than zombies?
I'm unspeakably bored by zombies, vampires, werewolves, et al. The only thing that consistently tempts me is the post-apocalyptic novel--I suppose that's my fallback or default choice.
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Zombies are kind of the flavour-of-the-month. :)
I decided on steampunk basically because I am re-writing a very old story that my father used to read to me as a child. I wanted to really twist it in a new direction, and at first thought about setting it in a present-day, urban environment and then decided that an alternate-world/steampunk treatment would be a lot more fun.
Also, I'd always intended this to be a fully illustrated novel, and steampunk suits my artwork.
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I love steampunk too. Sometime I want to make a steampunk dollshouse (I love making dollshouses). My novel is not really steampunk, but some of the objects will be kind of steampunkish.
Anyone who is unfamiliar -- well, google steampunk, you'll get hits galore. Especially fun to do this with "images". From what I've seen the new Three Musketeers movie is going to be tres silly, but will have fun steampunkishness going on.
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I agree that zombies are a flavor of the month. I will be so glad when things move on to something else!
For plot ideas, I recommend the website Serendipity: http://nine.frenchboys.net/index.php
Generate names, places, plots, plot twists, even Chinese restaurants! (This morning I got The Szechuan Dragon.)
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I LOVE THIS! Thanks!
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I Thought I would try a "Who Done It".
This year for fun, I have set it in the just post world war two era to pick up on the restlessness of the returning soldiers to create the mild chaos I needed.
Very mainstream this time.
For you try being random:
Take a world history book and think of a number, open to that page, there is your era!
Roll the dice, the number on top is your number of Main Characters.
Get out the Thesaurus choose seven interesting words and start writing to include them in a story...a plot will grow.
Good Luck!
Re: Does anyone write something other than zombies?
Well, I did have an idea for a zombie short-short story, but I can't imagine doing a whole novel about them. Hard to come up with anything new, zombies traditionally not having much personality and absolutely no social skills. Maybe a charm school or dating club for zombies??
Re: Does anyone write something other than zombies?
I would love to help you out, but I have a hard enough time finding ideas for myself. I'm with you about the zombie, vampire thing. Not my genre. Don't read it, don't care.
You might try going to the library and reading newspaper headlines. That might spark something. Go to a bar or coffee shop and eavesdrop. Or, there are a lot of books about generating ideas. I know my library has one called "The Writer's Idea Book".
Good luck!
Re: Does anyone write something other than zombies?
I have never written about zombies or vampires or even werewolves. Real people seem odd enough to me.
My main characters usually show up in my dreams, that's where I find them. Also other people's overheard cell phone conversations always contain juicy bits of dialgue prompts.
Take a good look at what you read most. Which genre? That might be a good jumping off place to start.
Re: Does anyone write something other than zombies?
I'm with Rutabaker. Real people are plenty for me! I've lived long enough to hear enough fantastic stories to have
plenty of ammunition. Also I became fascinated with the idea of "revenge" which I find gives you plenty of fodder for plots using real people!
Travor
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I'm with RutaBaker. Real people are odd enough for me, especially the ones in my stories.
When my children were small, my husband and I tag team parented rather than use daycare or after school care. This meant that I'd arrive home after a work shift to being essentially a single mom to two small girls. By the time they were ready for bedtime stories, I was tired.
I'd lie on the floor of their room with the lights out and tell them to give me three things. They could be objects, characters, locations. It didn't matter what. Then I'd spin them into a story.
The advantage? I could do it with my eyes closed.
You might want to try a variation on this. Far more interesting than beings that can't even manage to die properly.
Re: Does anyone write something other than zombies?
I'm not into vampires, zombies, aliens, etc. either. My novel will be very firmly grounded in this world--more specifically, in the world I know-- as are the short stories I've written. I draw on my own experiences, get inspiration from my work, people I've known, my own life. If you're interested in doing mainstream or realistic fiction, there are plenty of potential stories all around you. Everyday, even seemingly humdrum life has dramatic potential.
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I also find Zombies to be somewhat repetitive in that they are always pretty much the same monster. Unlike Vampires, which have been re-invented as sexy immortals with that one annoying flaw (you know that whole 'people are their food' thing).
I have been reading some indie fiction about Zombies and, although well written from a technical standpoint, the subject matter is still repetitive. Just kill off the last of these SOB's please.
Science fiction - and now Steampunk fiction, have an attraction since the author decides what is real within the confines of the plot.
Good Luck
Oh, and my plot involves the return of the Gods of ancient mythology to the modern world.
Re: Does anyone write something other than zombies?
Core idea for my novel came from pulling out and looking at my (now) old copy of the Parinoia XP game. The proposal for the new complex for Apple that looked like a mother ship was most inspiration as I took the idea in a diferent direction with an "eye" phone and an "eye" pad (the eye represents the computer). Added a few characters and hopefully I have a novel.
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Update: I finally realized my novel is going to be a satire. It wasn't really all that science fiction, didn't have enough horror, and definitely no zombies, and there wasn't much suspense, so satire it is. So things like this makes sense (note I don't have anyone yet ready to actually say these things.
"According to Four Radical Rules by Monica Lewinsky, revolutions should be done, 'top down, bottom up and inside out.'"
"What does that mean?"
"It means we first make you think too much. The we make you run around too much. Then we poison your Bouncy Bubble Beverage so you throw up; that's the inside out part."
Re: Does anyone write something other than zombies?
I'm not doing a zombie novel. However, the idea of perhaps a ninja zombie intrigues me. Not as a novel . . . but heck! Ninja! And Zombie! Now that would be cool. Would it be a fast-moving, flesh eating, killing machine? Or a slow moving, highly ineffectual assassin?
Uhhh, as for plot stories . . . hope you find something that excites you. :-)
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Now I feel like apologizing for writing a zombie novel. :-(
Guess I won't get Beta readers for this one.
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Don't you dare apologize for that! LOL
Yours is original right?
I for one want to to be a Beta reader for it.
Benton
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I think it's original. It's actually told from the point of view of the ghost, who has found out information about how the zombie apocalypse started and how they could deal with it. If only he could find a way to tell someone.
And thanks. I'll keep you in mind when I get the complete first draft finished.
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That is definitely an original take on the Zombie Apocalypse. I can imagine the frustration of the ghost who is trying to get this information into the right hands, and the further frustration of the person or persons who are successfully contacted when they try to pass the information on.
Good plot = good story.
B
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Sounds like a great idea.
Zombie idea I kicked around:
What if you found out the best Zombie fighter in your group of survivors was a vampire. He can't feed on the zombies and he has a vested interest in keeping you all alive.
Do you kill the vampire and lose one of your best assets?
How do you feel about being a food source in the long term?
Sure beats being a quick one time snack to the zombies but still.
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I've been away for a few days and am really happy to come back and see all these responses! I just figured the whole world had gone '"twilight" on me or something. I'm sure vampires and zombies and changelings and stuff are fine, but I was dumbfounded to find so many people are writing that genre. Guess there are mostly young writers here...maybe I'm just older than I think (HA). I will take some of your suggestions (most especially the idea to stock up on chocolate and caffeine!) and keep looking. Always open to new suggestions. Thanks. Happy writing! See you at the finish line and in the coffee line between now and then.
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Thank you for thinking that I'm a "young writer" at 57. ;-)
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Younger than I am, Zookeeper, but anyone writing NaNo is probably at least pretty young at heart, no?
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I write thrillers/mysteries. They are character driven. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy reading a good zombie book, maybe even a movie or two.