So, I think that the title explains a lot. Three paragraphs from anywhere in the novel to be commented on.
No title or summary.
Just the three paragraphs.
If you comment:
Critique: (how was it, what could be changed) Grammer: (I know, it's my evil nemesis as well) Grade: (either 1-5 or letter grades) Good things: (please include this) Buy, put down, or tun the page?: (if this were in a bookshop which would you do?)
One note: I know that people can get overshadowed, so please refrain from posting your synopsis until you see at least one critique on the paragraphs above you. Just so that everybody can get feedback.
"Mommy!" The screech sets my throat on fire, but I don't care. My mother. My own mother. She's all I have left. They can't take her. I won't let her do this. No. No. "No." It's as if my mother is reading my thoughts. "We've talked about this, Evol." Her voice is perfectly calm, at ease, almost reassuring. "In fact, I think it's time. They'll be here any minute now." "Mommy!" The sobs rack me, punish me for letting her do this, for allowing it to happen. "What if you're not useful?" I'm screaming through my tears now. I know how hard it is to screech and sob by this point. And I'd hate to lose my voice before our goodbyes. "What if they...they..." I can't finish the sentence. I can't think it. I can't say it. No matter how much I believe it's what will happen. The deepest, darkest imaginings in the pitts of my black life will be here, arriving at the doorstep in just minutes. "Oh, don't worry. There'll be nothing to see. If they don't like my level of intelligence, they'll shun me away. They can't afford another death, Evol. The human race is perishing. There's not too many of us left. They need me." All meaningless sentences, which we force ourselves to believe. "Then why can't I be out of hiding? Don't they want to know what I have to offer?" "Not until you're eighteen. Right now you still have a chance of growing, learning, existing." My mother, with her young age, bright green eyes, and even her prematurely graying blonde hair, will be gone. All gone. Gone. Not here, there, anywhere on this earth. Not living. Gone. "No, Mommy! I won't let them take you! Please, please no! Hide with me! Don't risk it. Don't do it." But my pleading is in vain. If they come here, they come knowing the house is not abandoned. That's why we got the note. The note that changed everything. The note--like a warning of death. If you run, they'll make it worse. If you attempt to conceal yourself, they'll announce the amount of blood there was on you when you died to your family. But if...if you come willingly, they'll go easy on you. Make it quick. They'll keep it quiet. Your family can then pretend that you were smart enough, that they took you to go live another life a ways away. I shudder involuntarily, remembering when I was seven and my mother had explained this to me, with my father's face buried in his hands, as we huddled around the fireplace. How dead her expression got, how she started to cry, rocking me in her arms. I had been frozen with indeciscion. When your leaders did not know which way to turn, you didn't either. So pretending is what we turn to. Let's just say they got away, believe it... But we all know. And if you get in their way during their procedures, they'll kill you too. That's why I have to stay trapped. Hidden. Safe as it gets. But my mother? No. They can't do this to her. We've been out here, living like animals in the woods for so long. Now they've found us. All vulnerable and open from every angle in our small clearing. And they discovered Mommy. Old enough to take the test.
I've never done one of these before, so my advice might not be any good.
Critique: (how was it, what could be changed) In terms of emotionalness: great. I almost cried. I think that all the questions she asks her mother make it feel a little bit crowded though. Also, I think that it gets a bit confusing when you say earlier that she'll be smart enought to get by, and then later contradict that and say that that never happens. I think if you explained it all at the same time it would make more sense.
Grammer: (I know, it's my evil nemesis as well) Yeah, it's my nemesis too. I can't really say anything except for maybe cut down on the one word sentences. A few are okay, but more just make the page seem cluttered.
Grade: (either 1-5 or letter grades) B- (but I really have no idea)
Good things: (please include this) Fricken exciting. I can feel the desperation in Evols voice. It makes me want to learn more about the world that all of this is happening in, and what will happen to her mother.
Buy, put down, or tun the page?: (if this were in a bookshop which would you do?) Turn the page. I would read on to see a little more of what was happening. I probably wouldn't buy, but that's only because this isn't really my kind of book.
What is the appropriate reaction when your 59 year old mother calls to tell you that she and her girlfriend have decided to buy a farm and raise alpacas for their fleece? There are probably several viable options to choose from, ranging from Your girlfriend? to What the fuck? Either of those would suffice in most cases. My response: “What’s an alpaca?” “They’re like sheep but with long necks. Yeah, we’re gonna be rich!” she replied with the excitement that can only be described as a six year old telling you about the new Pixar movie. When she noticed the exceptionally long silence on the other end of the phone, she continued with her attempt to convince me of her new venture’s worth. In a tone that sounded like the word “duh” should have been placed at the end of her sentence, she added, “They’re from Peru [duh]. We ordered a catalog from the Alpaca Breeders Association. You have to look at it!” An attempt to add credibility, I’m sure. “And you should have seen it. They had a pooper-scooper that you can ride on, but they actually don’t really poop that much.” At this point you may be asking why I had such an understated response to such a strange announcement. I’ll tell you.
I'm a completely inexperienced writer, but I'll give you my opinion anyway. It may be completely worthless.
Critique: (how was it, what could be changed) Really Funny. I almost lol'd at "What's an alpaca?"
I think that it's a little hard for me to get into. I wasn't really wondering why she had responded so understatedly by the last paragraph. I just figured that she was flabbergasted and didn't know how to respond. If theres a story behind the reason she didn't respond, I think that you need to make it clearer that she really wasnt affected by the announcement.
Grammer: (I know, it's my evil nemesis as well) Is the "duh" supposed to be in brackets? I have no idea what the correct way to put that in is, but it just looked a little strange to me. I may be an idiot.
Grade: (either 1-5 or letter grades) C
Good things: (please include this) Hilarious. The idea that someone would be so happy with breeding Alpacas is hilarious. Also, I think that I can get a really good sense of the characters' personalities from the little exchange. I can really get a good image of both of them.
Buy, put down, or tun the page?: (if this were in a bookshop which would you do?) Turn the page. I want to see if the rest is just as funny. I don't think I'd buy it though. It wouldn't suck me in.
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Here are my first three pharagraphs:
Some stories--in fact, most of them--start at the beginning. But this one starts before that, because first, there are some things you need to know before you will be able to understand this group of events that are very real and very dangerous. It’s amazing how the average human can read a group of true events and pass them off as ‘fiction’. They believe everything so easily… everything but the truth. This story is not a story. I am simply recording the information that has been relayed back to me. These events are very real. Now, back to my first point, to understand you must start before the beginning at the past in a world that has many similarities to ours, but also their fair share of differences.
It was a dark and stormy night. Okay, it wasn't. Actually it was a bright and sunny morning, but that simply does not do the foretelling of a disastrous day for the Dream World justice. Anyway, the castle situated at the north end of the town appeared no different and neither did anything of this rather ‘normal’ place in which the ruler of the Dream World resided, in fact this area was the most similar to the “Real World’s”- that is how they refer to our world- society. The small city had the feeling of a medieval country and that was as accurate a description as any. Up in the castle the ruler was conversing with their most trusted advisor, an elder man that devoted his life to assisting The Divine Leader.
“The East sector of the Dream World has been having a hard time controlling the high amount of growlers in their area,” began the advisor reading from a scroll the different variety of complaints he had been given from the vast world. “The beasts have increased in their hunting and have been killing many-” it was just then that the man was cut off by the sound of the door being opened in a hurry.
Critique: (how was it, what could be changed) I like the voice that the first paragraph shows, but I think that it's a bit rambling. You could probably cut out a few sentences and make it easier to read. Also, the dark and stormy night thing doesn't seem to fit with the serious mood that you set in the first paragraph. It seems more like you're making a joke than commenting on what the setting should have been. I think that you need to reword a few sentences in the second paragraph to make them easier to read. I think you could probably cut the sentence about the castle into two sentences.
Grammer: (I know, it's my evil nemesis as well) Should the - be a --? I never remember the rules about that.
Grade: (either 1-5 or letter grades) B-
Good things: (please include this) Great voice. I can really hear the narrator talking to me as I read. Also, I get a slight forboding feeling as I read, that somehting terrible is going to happen.
Buy, put down, or tun the page?: (if this were in a bookshop which would you do?) Buy, depending on what the back of the book said. Its a genre I like, and it sounds like an interesting story, but it needs some polishing
I will: Terror welled in Zoë's throat. She wanted to sob, but she watched, horribly entranced, as her captor lifted the poker out ot the fire, its tip glowing white hot with the flames that had licked it a moment before. Her breath came out unevenly as she stared at the fire, the glow of the poker searing itself into the back of her eyelids, so that every time she blinked she saw the flames, hot and ready to touch her bare skin. The touch of the iron was the most painful thing she had ever felt. It took her breath away, rendering her unable to do anything but scream. As the iron sank deeper into her skin she saw the man smile and everything went black. Zoë woke in a small cell, her burns aching and her feet full of cuts. She tied to stand, but she realized that she was shackled to a wall. Her hand were free though, and for some odd reason a pitched of water was placed on the other side of the cell. Zoë squirmed to reach it, but it was just out of her grasp. Her throat burned from lack of water and her head spun. She tried again and again to grab it until she realized that her ankles were torn and bleeding from the metal that had ripped them up. She touched one, her finger coming away wet. Trying to ignore the pain, Zoë lunged one last time for the pitcher. Her fingertip touched it, but not enough to grab the handle.
A little gruesome. Not enough to make me stop reading, but enough that I wouldn't read a novel that was this level of skin-crawling from cover to cover. That said, three paragraphs was not enough! I reached the end and felt cheated. You hit enter about two too many times, I think. I would definitely turn the page to keep reading!
The one thing that stuck out to me as needing some work is this: afterimages are "seared" into retinas, even though they are "seen" on the inside of your eyelids.
From a second, more careful readthrough:
Pitcher, not pitched, and this sentence sounds a little stilted at the area I've indicated: "her ankles were torn and bleeding [from the metal that had] ripped them up." But that is me being really nit-picky and overall I like it.
Critique: I liked it, overall. I feel like I can't tell you whether it's excellent or just good without more context. The transition from one scene to the next was kind of abrupt, but I feel like it would work as part of the whole novel. I also agree that there shouldn't be too many scenes with this level of gruesomeness. This is good, but often gory stuff is more effective when implied instead of seen. For instance, you show your victim the knife, you tell him how you've sharpened it tonight just for him, and the reader's mind can fill in what happens next so effectively that showing it onscreen is almost anticlimactic.
Grammar: In the last paragraph I think you meant to type "tried" instead of "tied". Other than that, although I don't think you have any actual run-on sentences, several of them seem a little too long to flow well. The third sentence in particular could be turned into two. Grade: I'd give this a solid B for a letter grade.
Good things: Your point of view and character development are great from what I can tell. You communicate what is important to the character, and nothing distracts from that. Buy, put down, or turn the page?: Turn the page. I can't tell whether I'd enjoy the novel's subject matter just from this, but I feel like there's a good chance.
critique: minor problem: typos, but it's just post nano now so it's understandable. Major problem: description is too brief and not physical enough and your language is detracting from the scene and mood. Run on sentences don't heighten the tension, and everything is distanced from the action and zoe experiences things mentally rather than physically. Make your long sentences short, and describe things physically, e.g. instead of, "The touch of the iron was the most painful thing she had ever felt," describe the pain. Also, you can't scream when you're out of breath so fix that, and run through for other innacuracies (I also suspect iron will burn red-hot not white-hot in an ordinary fire). The second paragraph is a different scene and it's easier on critics if you give them multiple paragraphs from one scene, by the way. But it also needs a lot more physical description. She realized she was shackled to a wall? How? Do the chains clink and does she trip on them? Can she feel their weight on her ankles? Again, she realised that her ankles were torn and bleeding - show the pain of them tearing. Also, in the next sentence, she touches one and her finger comes away wet - if she already knew they were bleeding, then why would she do this? Also, lunged is too energetic. I would expect Zoe to lie down on the floor and stretch herself out to her utmost, because you know she's burned and bleeding and chained in presumably heavy chains.
Grammar: Not an issue.
Grade: I don't grade, sorry.
Good things: Coherent and logical, from what I've read here it seems like the scene is well-developed in your mind. This is definite first draft status but after editing I would turn the page.
Johnny kicked the chair that Tony used. His father walked in right after that. He came in from the back. “Dad! W..Where did you come from?” Johnny asked. “You did good, kid. C’mere. You too good to welcome your father with some respect?” Bruno was holding out his hands towards Johnny. Johnny walked over to him and greeted him with a kiss on both cheeks. “Sorry, Dad,” Johnny said. “It’s that Rat. I can’t stand to look at him...gets under my skin every time.” “I know, Johnny. That’s why I sent him out to Bensonhurst in the first place. I knew you didn’t like him. But I also knew he was trouble. Killed him is what I should’ve done. It’s too late now. What’s done is done.” “What are you talkin about? I thought you were gonna question him?” Johnny asked. “Ah, why should I? We both know he’s a Rat. And be both know he ain’t gonna come clean even if we beat it out of him. Nah, I got somethin better for that punk,” Bruno said. “I’m all ears,” Johnny said with a smile. They both grabbed a seat at the bar. The bartender poured them two cognacs.
“What have I always told you since you were little,” Bruno asked his son. “Well, you’ve always said what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger,” answered his son. “No...Well, yes, yes, that’s important too, but that’s not what I’m talkin about. I mean concerning your enemies.” “Oh, keep your enemies close. But keep your enemies’ spies closer,” answered Johnny. “Yes, Yes! Now, listen closely. Everything that man owns is tapped. That’s why I brought him out here. They should be just about through with his car. By the time he gets back to Brooklyn, if he farts, I’m gonna know about it. Johnny, I’m too old for this, I’ll tell you that right now. I’m gonna leave everything to you. But first, I need to see how you handle this guy. This will be your ultimate test. I know you’re a great kid and I love you, son. But that temper. You gotta get that under control if you’re gonna take control of this territory. I’m not talkin about this territory; I’m talkin about taking back Bensonhurst.”
“Wait, I’m sorry, I didn’t hear you. For a second, I thought you said we’re gonna take back Bensonhurst from the Russians,” Johnny said with one eyebrow cocked. “Oh, you heard me! We both know they’ve been cheating us on our little percentage we’re supposed to be getting. Remember, they’re only renting that territory from us, you got that!” Bruno started coughing. “Yeah, dad, I know. You okay?” Johnny asked his father. “I’m fine. Listen, don’t worry about me. Worry about what’s comin outta my mouth. If we can take care of this ourselves, then voting you in for the eastern territory will be a piece of cake. Everybody will love you ‘til the day you die. You understand?” “I understand, dad, but how do you suppose we’re gonna convince the Russians they done a bad thing by us and it’s time they paid up?” Johnny was getting nervous. He knew he wasn’t going to like the answer to his question. “That’s the beauty of it. It all comes down to our little scum bucket...Tony.”
If you want a critique using the form above, let me know! Otherwise I'm just going to tell you what I thought of it, overall.
First, your dialogue is excellent, one of the rare examples I've seen of a well-written accent. It flows perfectly. It sounds like the characters are actually talking. Just because of that I'd keep reading.
The action leaves something to be desired, though. There's nothing wrong with what you have the characters doing, but it falls a little flat when you use the same sentence structure repeatedly. Can I suggest including more sound in your characters' actions? Tell us about the way Johnny's boot smacks Tony's chair, or the slam of the door and sudden gust of wind as Bruno enters. Talk about the low murmur of voices and sound of clinking glasses at the bar. It seems like a device that would fit well with your dialogue skill.
I can't tell much about the plot from just this, but I can tell you that it intrigues me, and for three paragraphs that's good enough. Good work!
Critique: Some of your sentences are a little choppy (e.g. "His father walked in right after that. He came in from the back") but it is well written overall. It is a bit dialogue heavy, but the speech is very well thought out.
Grammar: Good.
Grade: A-/B+
Good things: Strong sense of voice, it flows well, the speech is intelligent and purposeful. The relationships are also clear.
Buy, put down, or turn the page?: Turn the page, possibly buy depending on the overall plot!
Also, I think I read your opening in another forum post, and I really love this part - it's SO much stronger :)
I agree with Dani, but only by a little bit. You have a gift, and yours is dialogue. Many people are really bad with dialogue, so they fluff up their books with useless description so that you're paying more attention to the picture that they're painting rather than their shortcomings in dialogue.
Here is where I differ. When you're dealing with certain areas of the country and similar backgrounds/environments, it's not always necessary to have to change the way that your characters speak. Case in point - I'm a girl from the North, but I've spent some time in the South. As a result, there is a tendency for many people to speak exactly the same way. Sometimes, the only way that you can tell that these are different people is because of their voice. I've heard that it is similar in areas like Brooklyn (from a relative that resided in Bed-Stuy, though). One thing you will also have to do is remain true to your character and remain realistic. My belief is that you should NOT water this exchange down with needless description - that's often what makes me abhor a lot of authors and it kills the mood of a scene when someone is doing something asinine like going into the thought of a character while a detailed dialogue is going on.
This is also a damn sight stronger than your paragraph. This is excellent.
GRADE: A PURCHASE OR TURN THE PAGE: I would turn the page, and this would become a potential purchase. GENRE: Possibly mainstream.
First impression: Very choppy, feels rushed. Seems to be part of a fairly intricate plot, albeit not a genre I'd read (crime drama?)
Critique: Minor problems: The barkeep is a silent actor here. Either get rid of him and make them pour their own cognac, or make him do something significant (then again, I don't know what came before this so maybe he does have some purpose). Major problems: Language is too choppy, too many dialogue tags, and the writing is simple and brief while the dialogue is lengthy - that could be a stylistic thing though, and you can make that work.Go through everything that isn't dialogue (or dialogue tags) and smooth it out. E.g. Johnny kicked at Tony's chair as his dad came through the back door, rather than "Johnny kicked the chair that Tony used. His father walked in right after that. He came in from the back." Also, way too many dialogue tags. Get rid of them wherever they aren't absolutely neccessary. This is a conversation between two people so there really shouldn't be many of them. Bruno asked his son... answered his son coming straight after each other is just too much tag.
Grammar: Okay, but not great. E.g. "the chair that Tony used" should be "the chair that Tony had used.
Good things: Dialogue. It's carrying the plot at the moment, and even though I don't know the details of the plot, I'm pretty sure it's doing it well. A few points seemed stiff to me, e.g. W...Where did you come from? I'd just have "Where did you come from?" because I dislike elipses unless absolutely neccessary. but for the most part, good.
Thank you very much for your feedback. I like what you said about having too many dialog tags. I agree. I will work on that. I have an issue on how to use dialog tags so I will have to do some research on that. The barkeep is meant to be silent during this dialog, but I will add something like, after he poured the cognac, he headed to the basement to give them some privacy... or, you know, remove him from the scene. He was active right before the beginning of the dialog, so since he is not used here, you're right, he should be dismissed. Thank you for your advice!
You've got lots of good feedback here, so I'm just going to be the jerk and point out that this is 15 paragraphs. Not 3. If you're planning on doing something with this, you should probably get a handle on where paragraphs actually start and end, or your editor is going to want to kill you. ;)
Critique: (how was it, what could be changed) : Really scary, maybe leave more to the imagination Grammer: (I know, it's my evil nemesis as well): a few misspells, but who doesn't without spell check...Lol Grade: (either 1-5 or letter grades) : with five being the best, I grade a 4 Good things: (please include this) : I like how you are very good at explaining how the girl felt deep down in what was taking place. Buy, put down, or tun the page?: (if this were in a bookshop which would you do?) : I think I would be scared to turn the page but would turn anyway because I want to see what happens...Lol
Ashuton lifted his head, and he felt his muscles ache with weariness from the fight. He ran to the nearest dragon cottage and slipped inside. Nyota followed after, locking the cottage door, and where the Dragon should have been there was a man. This man looked to be in his mid-twenties, and his hair was quite long, it looked a bit longer than her's. He was European, she knew that much, and the inhabitants detested Europeans. The man was coughing up blood and could hardly walk. She cautiously walked up to him.
#2:
Kayla settled her egg in the hollow of a tree where it was sure to be warm And everyday she nurtured the egg with heat from her body And Jonas would be right there to give heat from his body Though it was tiring, they took turns watching over the precious egg Jonas would care for the egg like Kayla had been doing And although he questioned whether the egg was real, he continued to give it his heat He hoped to see some spark of life form the egg, but it lay as dormant as a volcano.”
#3:
For hours he toured the shrine with her, reading all the songs on the walls He explained to her the roles of the Dragon gods Ashuton didn’t hesitate to explain it to her, “Rodderan was the dragon god of science and thus he helped God in creating the stars, cosmos, nebulae and planets that exist within the universe Canman was born from Rodderan’s science And his job was to bring light and illumination to those whom need it He also created the moon and used it as his body He said, “this way I can illuminate the night.” Lementia, the goddess of Dragons, had ownership of the young sun Without her I would have been able to produce dragon eggs She blessed me with the fertility of the Gods.”
I'm really not sure how to take this. It reads something like a fairy tale/fable/epic poem but the subject matter isn't. For the first paragraph you're just rushing onwards and describing this happened, that happened, and then that happened. Same as the second paragraph. They need description, to me. Also, you seem to change perspectives too rapidly, between Nyota and Ashuton. It's confusing.
Last paragraph you begin to infodump.
As I said, I'm not sure how to read this so I don't think I can critique it fairly, but if I was going to read this, I'd need a lot more show and a lot less tell.
thank you for the critique. I picked the three paragraphs from anywhere in the book, they aren't the same scene which is probably why it was a mess. Sorry if it confused you. Poetry is more my specialty, which is why it reads like poetry, but you are right, it needs more description. The book itself was intended to be science fiction but somehow a few fantasy elements wriggled themselves in there. Thank you for the critique, I appreciate it!
I have read one book before that was written like a series of poems, but it was a novel. I really liked it - but it was YA/drama so things could be simpler and more conceptual, I suppose. It would be harder to do that with fantasy/sci-fi themes but if it was done well I think it could be awesome. So, you don't neccessarily need to curb your poetic insticts :)
One note: I know that people can get overshadowed, so please refrain from posting your synopsis until you see at least one critique on the paragraphs above you. Just so that everybody can get feedback.
As Captain Orr led the second party into the fray and broadsides continued beneath their feet, Edward crossed swords with a uniformed man. His eyes looked black, and Edward almost thought him a fiend. His lean face was covered in blood, and his uniform was awash in the same. For all the madness in his eyes, his movements were fluid. It took him only seconds to put Edward in a defensive position. Yet the Englishman’s brawling style of swordplay was nothing to compare with the Frenchman’s easy, trained movements. Edward tried to flee, but his opponent seemed capable of taking three steps to his every one. When Edward lost his footing and fell to the deck, the man was over him in an instant. He put his foot just under Edward’s ribs and raised his sword to strike the killing blow. Edward stared up at the demon and flashing blade and could only wait. The blow never came. Instead, Orr appeared. He struck the armed man, slashed his blade across the Frenchman’s sword arm. Blood poured freely. A kick took the enemy officer’s knee from under him, and he staggered. Orr stepped over Edward without a second thought to hold his sword against the man’s throat. “Where is your captain?” he snarled. Edward found himself wondering if Orr hoped the man would refuse to answer so he would have an excuse to slit his throat. “Lieutenant Jean-Remington Martineau,” the man said in a heavy accent. He managed the next words in English, though they were difficult to understand, try as he might to enunciate, the action had almost robbed him of whatever skill at English he had. “My captain is dead, and I surrender.”
Overall, I liked it. It needs some polish. For example, I'd like more feelings from Edward - not just tried to flee .... lost his footing and fell .... stared up at the demon ... I want to feel his desperation, his terror - and then the relief as Orr saves him!
Some notes: Orr stepped over Edward without a second thought As I'm in Edward s POV .. he wouldn't know what Orr is thinking or not thinking...
Yet the Englishman’s brawling style of swordplay was nothing to compare with the Frenchman’s easy, trained movements. This feels like an outsider's POV, would Edward describe himself as "the Englishman"?
Grammer: (I know, it's my evil nemesis as well) Nope, not going to comment on grammar since English is my second language and I might be as wrong myself =)
Grade: (either 1-5 or letter grades) Ummm .... 3, very close to 4, I think
Good things: (please include this) When Edward lost his footing and fell to the deck, the man was over him in an instant. He put his foot just under Edward’s ribs and raised his sword to strike the killing blow. This! And the last part is also very good.
Buy, put down, or tun the page?: (if this were in a bookshop which would you do?) I'm not so interested so I would buy it after just this look, but I like it enough to turn the page =)
So ... I'll throw in one of my own. Had to do a bit of searching, because usually my first drafts is very dialogue-heavy and three lines of talking doesn't make much sense at all .. =) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mateo closed the door to the guesthouse behind him, and released a breath. His heart was still pounding, fury burned his belly and he thanked all lucky stars that he hadn't Vipolior or Cazid within reach. If he had, he probably would have dome something incredibly stupid.
Shaking his head, he tried to get a grip on himself, but it was unusually difficult. The last few weeks it had become harder to keep a reign on his temper, something he'd never had trouble with before. If he hadn't forgot the scriptcase he'd meant to take with him and had had to go back to fetch it, he would have been gone when Akir rushed in. Well, he'd rather stumbled in, but with that desperation he would have been running if he'd been able to. Clearly, he had, until the wind were out of him. The fury, the desire to hit something, had flared hot with what Akir had told him.
It hadn't been easy to restrain Akir either, and who on earth would blame him? Mateo had not even known Akir had a wife. Now all of it had come tumbling out, i no order whatsoever. Not that Mateo needed any coherent description. He only knew far too well what could, and did, happen with slave girls at some of the parties wealthy young men arranged. And for that matter, with boys.
Critique: The sentence "...he thanked all lucky stars that he hand't Vipolior or Cazid within reach" doesn't make sense to me - are they people? I also thought some of the sentences were too compounded - " If he hadn't forgot the scriptcase he'd meant to take with him and had had to go back to fetch it, he would have been gone when Akir rushed in", for instance. I really liked the thrid paragraph - I want to find out more!
Grammer: Pretty good - a few errors that made some of the sentences harder to read than they could be, but it is readable.
Grade: (either 1-5 or letter grades)
Good things: The paragraphs are a good length, the end paragraph is very good."He only knew far too well what could, and did, happen with slave girls at some of the parties wealthy young men arranged" is very suggestive!
Yes, at this point in the story a reader would know who Vipolior and Cazid is - and hopefully not have any nice feelings about them. It's a bit tricky to get any context in this short piece.
English is my second language, so there's got to be many strange sentences in here =)
Hi! I’ve never done a critique in my life, but here’s a good chance to practice!
I like this; you show his anger in a really effective way, and you can just tell that he’s really, really frustrated. The wording can use some editing, like ‘he thanked all lucky stars’ should be ‘he thanked his lucky stars’, and perhaps ‘he’d rather stumbled in’ should be ‘Rather, he had stumbled in’. It’s good what you’ve got but there needs to be some tweaking of language. I think that you could really show that he is raging though, by adding some bits. When he releases a breath, does he spit it out or just sigh?
Try adding in body language too, that’ll help to show how angry he is. On the other hand, the barrage of names is a bit much out of context; I’m assuming that this is not the start of the book, and that by this point we are supposed to know who the characters are? If so, that’s fine, don’t worry! But if it’s the start, I’d recommend trimming down listing all the names, it becomes very confusing. But then, I really like the storyline in this, and honestly it may just be me being pedantic about the phrasing; of course you’d probably edit out these mistakes anyway, so perhaps I don’t need to even point them out. Just ignore them if you like.
But yes, it does make me interested about what Akir did tell them, and why it made him so angry! Good draft, seriously. I just think that if you add in more detail about his frustration, and perhaps cut down the use of names, it would be great!
Oh! I almost forgot Grammer: Pretty good - better than most I've seen. Grade: I'm from the UK so we don't do letter grades, um... but say 4/5, 1 being poor? Good things: The character is really relatable! I can tell he's angry and this leads me to wonder why. It also makes me desperate to know what he found out! Buy, put down, or tun the page?: Turn the page and then buy it! Or perhaps download if it was for Kindle :D
I'll definetly keep in mind to use some body-langauge too, and the other things you suggested.
The things about grammar and phrasing ... is probably much due to English being my second language (so I'll ignore it for now). For some reason it's easier fo me to get out a first draft in English, and then it gets polished into Swedish in editing =)
This is a scene-start, but in no way the beginning of the story. It is roughly one third into the first part of a trilogy - and all those names should be well known to a reader.
I walked in and saw the lion without its paws, lying on the section of marble floor nearest the sink (paw-less), being fed cubes of cheese by one of the girls. He looked fairly unbothered by the whole thing and only inclined his head briefly towards me, barely registering my prescence. The floor around him was streaked with dried blood, the colour sweeping the marble like a grotesque varnish, but his legs (without his paws) seemed like they had completely healed.
My mum ran over to me and muttered, “Who could do such a thing?”. The intonation in her voice made it clear that she meant, “Who could hurt such an amazing, wise, beautiful creature?” although the assumption (“Who could do something so horrific?!”) was also there. I just shook my head, in a way that she must have taken to mean agreement, but I couldn’t take my eyes away from the lion. I felt my face heating up and my eyes burning but I managed to leave the room in a very controlled walk. I made sure not to let tears break through the expression I’d forced onto my face until I was a safe distance away.
I ran up to my room and flicked the light on. The bulb flickered on and off before remaining on, gradually lighting up to its feeble ‘full light’ that the eco-make boasted on the packaging. I looked in the mirror and didn’t instantly recognise my face, my eyes having been replaced into the face of someone who wasn’t about to make everything a whole lot worse. I gathered all the things I thought I’d need (and that were close at hand) and stuffed them all into the biggest rucksack I could find. If I’d ever learnt how to pack properly like my parents had insisted many times, I guess I could’ve taken a smaller bag (or possibly more things). I listened at the top of the stairs, trying to figure out where the majority of sounds were coming from, but all the conversation seemed condensed in one room of the house – the kitchen. I took my chance and ran out of the front door in bare feet, carrying my flip-flops with me. I snagged my cardigan on the trellis that ran the full length of the house as I lost my balance slightly when a stone on the ground hit the arch of my foot, but I didn’t stop running until I’d reached the edge of the woods.
Hi! I liked this; the beginning was confusing despite making sense, and it had a WTF factor that, in context, probably makes sense. The lion made me sad, but that's good since it proves that you can stir up some good emotion! My only issue is the sudden scene change - it may be necessary but I think that there's a more subtle way of transitioning from one scene to another. Maybe just something little like closing their eyes, looking at something, just a little transition scene. Also the one line about "who would do such a thing?" was a little complex despite it making sense, maybe cut this into two sentences?
Grammer: Pretty good Grade: 4/5, 1 being poor Good things: It made some emotion stir in me; the first paragraph is so powerful that it really captures your attention wondering what happened! Buy, put down, or tun the page?: Probably turn the page to see how gory the rest might be, and then buy. (Just cos too much gore isn't my thing).
Critique: Minor problems: too many brackets, keep them for humorous/ironic effect, not for every sentence, and their impact will be stronger. Also, 'who could do something horrific' is very similar to 'who could hurt such a beautiful creature?' Hurting beautiful things is horrific, generally. And there's no need to have a full stop after ?" Major problems: Not many, really. It needs a bit of smoothing down, there a couple of redundancies, e.g. "only inclined his head briefly towards me, barely registering my presence". Sentence structure could be more variable I think. Minor problem: "I looked in the mirror and didn’t instantly recognise my face, my eyes having been replaced into the face of someone who wasn’t about to make everything a whole lot worse" I really like this sentence but it needs smoothing down.
Grade: I don't grade.
Grammar: pretty good.
good things: interesting, got a unique voice, and fairly well-written. I really liked it.
buy, turn, shelve - I'd read on a bit and then I'd probably buy.
“Now is not the time, Merrill!” The child scampered back to his feet; his father’s hard push had knocked him to the dirty ground of the courtyard. He gazed up at his parents with wide eyes – his knee bled and yet he already knew better than to cry. Reaching up, he attempted to hold his mother’s hand, but she yanked it from his grip.
“Don’t be stupid, Merrill!” she barked, thrusting the child’s arm away and turning back to the strangers with whom she had been speaking. “I am terribly sorry about my son,” his father said, shaking his head, “Constantly an irritation.” The child hung his head and turned to leave. Following nothing in particular, he didn’t realise how far he had gotten from the manor house until he turned and saw that the building had become little more than a softly lit shadow on the horizon. The boy, who was by this time immersed in shadow, wondered where he was. Gazing around, he saw nothing, and heard nothing except for the vague whinnying of horses in the distance. The lost boy followed the sound, finding himself swallowed by the darkness as he wandered through the night.
A horse grunted upon seeing the child, who watched them quietly. Meeting the creature’s eyes, the boy reached out a tiny arm and stretched his hand out to touch the golden fur. The horse shifted slightly, moving its weight away from the boy’s hand, and leaving him looking slightly forlorn. He stepped forward once more, determination showing on his youthful face. He placed a firm hand on the horse’s knee, stretching his fingers out to meet it. The animal jumped, startled, and pulled away with a loud snort. Kicking out its front legs, it reared slightly, threatening to knock the child to the ground with its large, ebony hooves. He froze, eyes wide with fear as the horse’s legs fell rapidly towards him, twice as large and powerful as the child’s entire body -
Your chapters are very good - i'm presuming you've already edited them? If not, they are very well written.
Grammar: Good Grade: 4.5/5, 1 being poor Good things: The reader feels sympathy for the boy, and strong characters are created in a very short space of time. The passage starts strongly, and there aren't any unnecessary words. Buy, put down, or tun the page?: Turn the page, possibly buy depending on the overall plot. It sounds exciting already!
Critique: The first paragraph grabbed me, but I started losing it by the third. For me as a reader, emotion and motivations as a character, help me relate to the character and make me want to know his/her story. I felt like you did a good job grabbing, but I got lost halfway.
The transition from being admonished by his parents to leaving the manor could be stretched out a bit or made more clear. It might have been just me, but I had to read it 3 times to understand what had happened. Maybe he could reflect on these thoughts, so we have an idea of his mindset, his reaction to these actions? Is this normal? How is he affected by this?
Following that the imagery is powerful again. Though I was jolted that it was suddenly night. For me it was too sudden, and I didn't feel much of a sense of time passing, which could have been what you were going for. But other than shadow, there wasn't much sense of night, which made me wonder why did these parents let their child wander into the night? Just some things you can think about when building characters.
I thought the scene between Merrill and the horse was done well. The only issue I have again, is that the characters seem lifeless in the telling. It's hard to judge from what little is shown, but it feels like this boy could have a lot to say. You could do a lot with explaining some of the inner workings of his mind. What drew him to the horse? Was it just a distraction? Why does he want to touch the horse? Just a couple of thoughts when reading your work that I personally thought could help bring it more to life. Grammar: I didn't see any problems Grade: 4, 1 being poor Good things: Stated in critique I believe. Buy, put down, or turn the page?: Turn the page at least.
Thanks! In the prologue you're not really meant to see too much, uh, how do I explain, it's meant to have some distance in it? But I see what you mean, I should add some more details. :D
Minor problems: You will lose a LOT of readers by starting out with a story of abusive parents, because either they will feel instant sympathy for the character or instant contempt for the writer. I strongly advise you to show a character's personality before you show that their parents were abusive, not to mention, you're painting the parents as nasty people when they could be distracted or dealing with more important issues than an annoying kid. Greyscale is more interesting than black and white. Oh, and I've never seen a horse with ebony hooves. They tend to be dark grey, dirty, and dull. Major problems: Not many. The word-choices aren't always perfect and the language can be a bit stilted, but this is a rough draft so that's expected. Also, dialogue feels a bit iffy to me.
Good things: coherent and grammatical.
Buy, turn, shelve: I'd shelve this because it starts out with abusive parents and a prologue that shows the main character as a toddler when I'd only care about him as an adult. If these paragraphs were from another section of the story, I'd probably turn the page though.
Thanks for critiquing! I understand most points you have said, but I'm afraid that I was told by several people that using that opening would be the 'hook', and I'm also afraid that the entire story centres around abusive parents; this IS the story. I understand comments about word choices and dialogue but, as you have said, it is a first draft and so I wouldn't expect it to be perfect. But yes, the whole story follows on like this and so I'm afraid that there's not really any easy way to open dramatically without mentioning the abuse; perhaps you can suggest an easier way?
I don't think this is much of a hook. Kid's parents are mean and neglectful, kid runs off and gets kicked by a horse. And the kid's parent... aren't that mean. If the entire thing centres around absuive parents, and the choice of never coming back to them or coming when they need help, pick a stronger moment. And I honestly think a kid = poor moment, If you can get inside Merril's thoughts, you've got more emotions to work with, and a kid doesn't have much. When you begin with a kid, all you've got to draw in your readers is the natural sympathy that comes with small fluffy animals, and not everyone has much of that kind of sympathy.
In fact, I would start off wtih his parents being super nice to him when he's older - say in his teens - and Merril being at first suspicious of their motives, and then tentatively happy that they're being kind to him - only to have them turn around and it turns out the only reason they were being nice is because they wanted something from him and when he doesn't give it to them they turn from carrot to stick - e.g. they bought him a new horse because they've just sold his oldest, most favourite stallion to the local horsebreeder for stock, or they're giving him new clothes because they're having a party and he will be there and he will show their friends how awesome thier son is, and when he embarasses them slightly in front of said friends, they blow up in his face. That is, I would begin with the psychology of the abuse and Merril's feelings, rather than the fact of the abuse and merril's actions.
I'm sorry I was harsh before - I thought you were using nasty parents to drive sympathy for your protagonist, which always irritates me. If you're exploring the decisions between abandoning the nasty family and running away for himself, then it's much more interesting.
Critique: It kept my interest for sure. I was a little confused about why the horses were whinnying. My understanding is that they whinny when they're separated from each other, and they are trying to find each other. And I'm wondering if the horse actually grunts. He might snort if he thinks the kid is dangerous, and that could explain why he rears up a little later. Also, I believe a horse's 'fur' is usually called a coat, so that word choice was a little jarring, but I really liked the suspense in the kid's confrontation with the horse. Grammar: The grammar seemed fine to me, but some of the writing seemed a bit rough. Grade: 3.5 (either 1-5 or letter grades) Good things: I already included the good things, I think. Good suspense, and the little boy caught my interest and sympathy for sure. Buy, put down, or turn the page?: I'd probably put the book down at 'fur.'
Thanks! I'll admit, the 'fur' thing cofused me because at the time I couldn't think of any other suitable word; now you post it, 'coat' is obviously the right choice there. I'll also admit that I don't know all that much about horses, they are just a plot device, and so I am less than knowledgable about how they behave... thanks for pointing out my mistakes, I never would have picked up on the horses' behaviour!
Critique: I liked it very much Grammer:good Grade: 4 Good things: right from the start you had me because I wanted to know how the parents would get payback for being jerks, so I disagree with DozyCat on you loosing readers because of it. I loved your description in that part, and I could imagine myself there watching it thinking, hold on a min! I did get a bit turned around with the quick change from the beginning scene to darkness in the second paragraph. I agree with others on that. I know a little about horses, and I can't think of ever referring to them as golden in color. To get technical, there are horses out there that shed their summer coat and have what feels like "fur" underneath to keep them warm in extreme winters, but this doesn't sound like it's the case. As I read the description of the golden fur, I was initially confused, then I thought to myself, oh, it's going to be a lion, it's not a horse at all! I was super excited to expect a cool twist. Then I saw the ebony hooves and knew it wasn't a twist. I have seen ebony hooves at horse shows, but not in the dirt. I agree with DozyCat, horses out in a field have dusty hooves and they do look more grey. One more thing about horses, they whinny for lots of reasons, I think you should keep that. It's classic horse behavior and I can imagine being there hearing it too. This sentence, "Following nothing in particular, he didn’t realise how far he had gotten from the manor house until he turned and saw that the building had become little more than a softly lit shadow on the horizon" I didn't like because it wasn't smooth for me. I really like the idea that this kid seems fearless instead of scared after being treated poorly by his parents. I liked that he didn't freak out when he was "swallowed by the darkness" nor did he shirk away from the obviously irritated horse. Good stuff!
Buy, put down, or tun the page?: I'd keep reading, most likely a buy.
Lizardbites wrote: As I read the description of the golden fur, I was initially confused, then I thought to myself, oh, it's going to be a lion, it's not a horse at all! I was super excited to expect a cool twist. Then I saw the ebony hooves and knew it wasn't a twist. I have seen ebony hooves at horse shows, but not in the dirt. I agree with DozyCat, horses out in a field have dusty hooves and they do look more grey. One more thing about horses, they whinny for lots of reasons, I think you should keep that. It's classic horse behavior and I can imagine being there hearing it too.
Ummm, there are several kinds of horses that could have a golden coat. E.g. Palominos and sometimes Buckskins.
Though I did find myself wondering if it would really look very golden in the darkness. Is there a source of light from somewhere? How much can he see?
Thanks! Since posting this, I have actually edited it and changed all the things that you mentioned, since they had been mentioned before by others, too. I like that you think it's interesting, and I'm really grateful for your critique!!
The feeling of the wind blowing through your hair, there’s nothing better. A bright summer’s afternoon, the clouds white and puffy as they float lazily across the sky, no destination in mind. Just like me. I once floated across the sky, something so immensely freeing I won’t soon forget it. It’s not normal, for one to fly. It was certainly one of the reasons that I was cast out of my community, or at least, shied away from. They didn’t understand that for me, flying was a way of expressing myself as well as seeing the world in a new way. My name is Delia, I am a Flyhorn.
My wings don’t flap, they don’t even have feathers. I made my wings, but they are still as much a part of me as my arms and my legs. I became fascinated by the Flyhorns when I was seven. I would look up at the sky and see the birds flying overhead and want to be there with them. The Flyhorns were not seen in my community. They were outsiders, people who came to trade things amongst normal people for money. When I heard they were coming I would run into the streets to see them, sit by all the other children as they told us stories of what they had seen and heard. They could talk to birds, they said. They had seen across the great ocean, they said. I would sit for hours and listen to the stories they would tell. The other children would be dragged away by their parents, they would be ushered inside and told to forget the stories they had been told. My mother gave that up when I was nine. I would only escape through the window to see the Flyhorns again.
More than once I even tried to leave the community with them. My mother is a patient woman, but she has no tolerance for what she calls evil. Anything that defies the normality of our community is evil. She was old when I was born, old in the eyes of the community anyway, being thirty-nine. My father has always been unknown to everyone but my mother, who will take that secret to her grave. I didn’t need a father growing up, there were plenty of men in the community to help raise me. That’s the thing about communities. They raise each other. We are not a town or a village or a city, with many people and many families. The people who live in those places know not their neighbours, but we do. We live together and raise our families together. The families in our community have been there from the beginning, growing together and bonding. I will marry a son from the community when I am of age. I don’t know who he is yet, but there are only four that it could be. It is not something that I would have chosen for my life, but it is something that I must do. I would be cast out of the community if I refused, my mother would be shamed and cast out with me. I could never do that to her.
Critique: I was immediately drawn in. Delia has a very captivating voice and so far a very interesting story to tell. I loved learning about the Flyhorns and you set up a very interesting community for me to imagine. Your characters, so far, are interesting, and have set up several conflicts in very few paragraphs. The community you developed I thought was an interesting one, and I feel this could develop into a very interesting story. Well done.
There were a few tense inconsistencies, that I noted, but none that bothered me. I'm sorry I wasn't helpful with any technical critiques as there was nothing about these paragraphs that really bothered me. I would only caution to make sure that Delia keeps her voice, and continue that consistency throughout the story. (Not saying you won't and she'll become a Mary-Sue, but the best critical advice I can give at the moment.)
Grammar: clouds 'float' to 'floated' (tense consistency) didn't catch much else Grade: 4 Good things: -noted above- Buy, put down, or turn the page?: I would turn the page and maybe buy ;)
First impression: strong start, bland continuation.
Minor problems: Naturally, first-draft, needs smoothing out. Major problems: this is an introduction, yeah? The first paragraph is great. The second and third devolve into infodump. Also - I was cast out my community - and - I will marry a son from the community when I am of age - contradiction. It makes me confused as to where Delia's telling this story from - has everything already happened or is it just about to? I am incredibly biased against this kind of exposition beginning, but I would much prefer something where like, the Flyhorn come into town and Delia runs off to meet them even though the rest of the community are all like, "What are you doing Delia? You're not a kid anymore; you don't have the time to listen to their stories". Action. Also, from what you've written here, I'm beginning to get an idea of what the plot might be, which isn't good this early in the book. Even if I'm mistaken, I think you're giving a bit too much away too soon.
Grammar: pretty good.
Good things: nice first paragraph, very coherent and readable, solid voice, and looks like a pretty interesting setting. I also like that the MC is attached to her mum, because it throws in a small conflict, and because I'm sick of reading about selfish characters.
Buy, turn, shelve: I suspect this book isn't for me, but I'd turn the page to check.
She pulled the blanket forcibly over, trying to warm her chilled insides. Blanket…When did she get a blanket? She pushed herself up from the couch she had laid herself on. This wasn’t the stuffy old broken down inn that her and her superior had slept in for the last week. It was dark, but much nicer. A…study it seemed. It was quite empty except for a desk and a pile of books that looked like they were in need of repair. On the desk it seemed that there was one in the process of being restored. She could taste some strange chemicals in the air but couldn’t name what they were. Groaning she stuffed her face into the pillow on the couch. She couldn’t believe her luck. She had angered the very Blood Demon of Numa, and after he was done with whatever he was going to do to the Captain she was sure that she was next. She stared at the door in worry, unsure of how long she had slept or when he would get back. She was just waiting for the demon to come back and devour her. ‘Maybe ‘e’ll fatten meh up firs’,’ she mused to herself, half-heartedly. She admitted she wouldn’t mind the idea as long as her death was quick and the meals were delicious. Heavens knew that it had been ages since she had something decent to eat. Anything worth tasting she’d have to scarf down before she was caught, and as for the rest…well the plug your nose and swallow was a routine she knew quite well.
My first critique so take it for what it is -- simply words from a stranger. :)
Critique: (how was it, what could be changed):
I think you did a nice job communicating the fear that she felt about a confrontation with the demon but I think with a little more work you could really instill a sense of panic in me (your reader).
In the first paragraph your use of "A....study it seemed." is a bit clunky for me. I know what you're trying to do there as I do it a lot in real life when I talk. You might reconsider how you present this bit of information to the reader. Perhaps ditch the "..." and try something like: It was dark, nicer, almost like a study. Or something to that effect.
This: "She could taste some strange chemicals in the air but couldn’t name what they were." Again I know what you're trying to say and in fact I struggled with a similar line in my own writing not to long ago. I'm not sure I have a suggestion on how to fix this. Perhaps something like "The smell of the unfamiliar chemicals in the air was so strong that she could almost taste them."
Grammer: (I know, it's my evil nemesis as well) I have no real complaints. I'm not perfect myself.
Grade: (either 1-5 or letter grades) B+
Good things: (please include this); I'm a sucker for details and you gave me just the right amount in the first paragraph to have me imagining this dark, almost sinister library of sorts. You did well focusing on your character in the story and not getting me to bogged down with unnecessary information. I can quite clearly tell she's in a real pinch and that's a very good thing.
Buy, put down, or tun the page?: (if this were in a bookshop which would you do?) You'd at least get me to turn the page and read on. You've given me enough in the paragraphs above to want to know if Numa does return and what he does to her.
Oh goodness, no both of these critiques helped immensely. I've read my novel so many times, my mind's gone numb to seeing it's flaws. I'll definitely be taking that sentence change, and looking for others sentences that could be simplified as well. Thanks so much for taking the time to critique.
Good things: * I like the ideas. I think there's probably a story in this book that I'd like to read. Blood demons, police of some kind (or at least militia); it sounds like my bag. * The "wake up somewhere strange" routine is always a good one. I don't know where in your book this falls, but it's never a bad way to change up the scene. * Your word choice is good. I feel like you could take all of the words in these three paragraphs (with a one-sentence exception) and, dropping a few extraneous ones, shuffle them around into some reasonably strong prose without having to add or change a thing.
Critique: * Your construction is really rough. "She pushed herself up from the couch she had laid herself on" is just a tortured sentence, dragged on well past where it should logically have ended ("She pushed herself up from the couch." period, full stop, end of thought). There are a few places like there, where you simply have far more words than you need. I'm guessing the perspective is third person limited throughout, focused on your main character here? She strikes me as a woman who doesn't go on at length, so, if nothing else, tightening up the prose would make it feel more like her story, even if she's not directly telling it. * It's your book and this is a stylistic thing that not everyone agrees with, but I would strongly caution you against having a major character who speaks in a dialect that you write out phonetically. Dialect is fine. My excerpts are chock full of the stuff, so I'm not one to poke fun. But while writing out an accent can work when you want to really call attention to how different a character sounds, having it strewn through the book (as I assume it will be if this is your main character) can quickly drive the reader insane.
Grammar (because Grammer is your mom's mom): Actually not bad. You have roughly 30% more words than you need to have, but they are mostly grammatically correct. You ought to have a comma after "Groaning" and the first paragraph should probably be two paragraphs, broken between pushing herself off of the couch and describing the room.
Grade: (either 1-5 or letter grades) 3. I'd give you a 4 but some of those sentences were just a chore to read.
Buy, put down, or tun the page?: Hmm. That's a toughie because I really do want to like it. I would probably flip around the book to see if this was a single instance of rough prose or if it was like this throughout.
Thank you for your critique. It really did help. I have a tendency to be wordy, and I just can't catch myself. Now that I know where to look, I can rearrange this to flow better, and stop interrupting the read. I'll try to keep a lookout for these mistakes throughout the rest of my novel.
As for the dialect, I knew it would be a risk, but her status (and dialect) play big roles in the plot. Though I won't torture the reader forever with this. As she is taught, her speech gets better, til she speaks with an 'implied' accent I won't have to write out. To make that change clear though, I thought it would be best to keep her accent atrocious but readable.
First impression: how can you forcibly pull a blanket?
Minor problems: cluttered writing. It could be simplified. broken-down not broken down. She and her superior not her and her superior. Major problems: Not many. This is pretty good.
Grammar: okay but not brilliant. There are times I had to re-read sentences to understand what they really meant, but that might be because I don't know what happened before this point in the story.
Good things: Getting right inside the character's head very nicely, description is handled pretty well.
Oh thanks. These are things I'll think about. I didn't realize my sentence structures were so poorly constructed until three writers pointed it out. Thanks so much > w<.
I'll definitely be looking at this with a more critical eye sentence by sentence to make sure everything makes sense again.
How do you pick three paragraphs at random in the midst of a novel? I certainly don't know. But here are three anyway:
“Is,” he said. “Is. Was. Will be. May be, could be, should be. Your words are so small and so confused. What is it to not exist anymore? That which is, is. That which is not, is not. The center is forever barred.”
I shook my head. I felt like I should be afraid but wasn’t. My memory was a blank, by and large, and I was speaking to a man I knew to be dead in a place I knew to have been destroyed. A man with no face, at that. Yet I felt, more than anything else, calm. At peace. “Who are you?”
An impression filled me, like warm water pouring into a cool pitcher. A sense of patience, and of curiosity – almost playfulness – and an impression of something vast beyond all comprehension. A many-sided box folding in on itself again and again. A flower blooming in sunlight, then withering in darkness, only to bloom again. A leaf bearing a drop of dew, poised at its tip, and another droplet falling from somewhere above to dislodge the leaf’s load before running down the veined green surface to take its predecessor’s place.
Critique: (how was it, what could be changed) One of the things I've learned on this topic and the one where you can only post 200 words is it's often hard to figure out the big picture of the story. For me this is the case with yours. I really don't have much to offer in the way of a critque because there's not a lot going on in the few paragraphs you've shared. I don't have a sense of location or of your characters and I feel as though I've story walked in on the middle of something bigger, perhaps something even "world changing" if you know what I mean. I get a strong sense that an epiphany for your MC is on the horizon but I just don't know.
Grammer: (I know, it's my evil nemesis as well) I'm not a thesaurus or a dictionary. There are a few sentences in your writing that are a little long for me and some that are short. I think overall it works and I have a feeling that you were actually looking to acheive this effect. The shortened sentences aren't random by any means.
There's really only one sentence that trips me up when I read and I'm not sure why exactly. "My memory was a blank, by and large, and I was speaking to a man I knew to be dead in a place I knew to have been destroyed."
Grade: (either 1-5 or letter grades) I'd give this a B+ with A- potential
Good things: (please include this): Again it's so hard to just start reading somewhere in the middle. I feel a sadness coming from the first paragraph, almost a sense of despair but I'm not sure why. Perhaps I'm way off. From your MC I feel a sense of relief almost coming from them. Your third paragraph has a wonderful selection of imagery to try and elicit emotion from me (your reader). It's nicely done and not over done.
Buy, put down, or tun the page?: (if this were in a bookshop which would you do?) I would certainly turn the page. It's hard to say if I would buy the book simply because I don't have a lot to go on at the moment. If I did like what I read, it would be a possibility.
I actually posted those three in particular because I specifically was hunting a critique of the 3rd paragraph. This chapter is purposefully out of keeping with the rest of the book and that bit of imagery is important, so I wanted to be sure that it was acceptably wrought and neither over-done nor too bland.
Well-written but not a nice passage to critique for the reasons shadowphaze gave. The imagery is okay but we need context. "another droplet falling from somewhere above" the somewhere makes this clumsy. A leaf above, or just above, would be better. Predecessor is also a bit ... odd. But I can't think of anything else that fits. Frankly, this seems pretentious to me. Too muhc imagery, too much metaphor, too much intellectualism. And y'know, nothing actually happens. This might be the most important scene of your story, but without context these three paragraphs are about as meaningful as a first year philosophy student's exam paper.
“H-how can I help you? I can’t even see you…” Ava’s heart thumped erratically in her chest as she turned back to face forward. In a moment of realization her gaze darted down to the ring at her feet. As the voices called out again pleading for help the ring’s light seemed to vibrate with the shattered sound of their voices.
Coooome closer….help us…. (this is in italics)
There were rules according to her Aunt for surviving childhood. You didn’t take candy from someone you didn’t know or get into any moving vehicles. You certainly didn’t make conversation with a stranger either because it would inadvertently lead to the person offering you the dreaded candy aforementioned. Children disappeared all the time her aunt had threatened, and most of the time they never came home. Aunt Tabitha’s warnings hadn’t prepared Ava for a glowing circle on the ground and it hadn’t prepared her for the pitiful voices calling out to her for help. She quickly stepped backwards and immediately felt a small pang of disappointment, even guilt.
They’re killing us….please… (this is in italics)
“Who?! Who is doing this?” Her voice cracked and her umbrella lowered exposing her to the falling rain. “What do you want? Hunh? Are you trying to scare me? It’s a nice trick. And you know it’s working…” She hated to admit that she was afraid. She hated to admit she was weak in any kind of manner because it opened her up to being judged by others.
Good stuff: I like it. I'm interested and nothing pulls me out of the narrative. Based on this and your 200 words excerpt I'd probably read your book. If it had a good blurb I'd probably buy it :)
Critique / Grammar (because your work is good enough that I have little to say except about grammar): Some of your wording could be punched up a bit. It's most obvious in the second paragraph. I like the sentences you've got, especially the one about candy, but I think reordering them would make it flow more smoothly. "Her Aunt had rules for surviving childhood" seems like it would be stronger to me, or even just "According to her Aunt there were rules for surviving childhood." As it stands you need commas around the subordinate clause (that's probably the wrong name) "according to her Aunt".
I don't know your character, but just from what I get in this bit I don't think she should say "And you know it's working..." If she doesn't like to show weakness then leaving it at "It's a nice trick..." would do the job better.
Grade blah blah blah: I like it, like I said. If the plot blurb sounds neat I'd buy it.
Thanks for the input! It's much appreciated. I'll look into the ordering of my sentences, etc. One of the reasons I picked this particular section was because I felt weak to me in how it came across. :-)
I haven't ever critiqued before, but here it goes.
Critique: Ok, firstly let me say that this sounds great! The story is gripping and I would definately continue reading after these paragraphs.
Grammer: I felt that a few of your sentences could have benefitted from being broken up - either using commas or separating it into two sentences. Particularly 'As the voices called out again pleading for help the ring’s light seemed to vibrate with the shattered sound of their voices.' Although, this may just be a personal preference, as the long sentences do not hinder the flow at all.
Grade: 4.5/5 (with 1 being poor)
Good things: I love your choice of words: 'aforementioned' and 'pang' are two of my favourites. It was lovely to see them used here. They fit in well, too. (By this I mean it does not sound like you plucked them from a thesaurus).
The second paragraph is just wonderful, and I feel that I have a good sense of the character after only three paragraphs. Good job!
Buy, put down, or turn the page?: I would turn the page, possibly buy after reading the synopsis.
Crit: Minor problems: commas needed. Major problems: needs cleaning up, it's messy, and yeah, the dialogue's iffy. It does feel weak to me, but mainly because the wording isn't refined and because of the last paragraph. E.g. she turned back to face forward - she turned around? As the voices called out again pleading for help the ring’s light seemed to vibrate with the shattered sound of their voices. As the voices called out again, pleading for help, the light seemed to vibrate? What's a shattered sound, by the way? She quickly stepped backwards, and immediately felt... Even as she stepped backwards, she felt guilty - she stepped backwards, guiltily - she stepped backward and immediately felt guilty/shamed. Quickly feels unneccessary here, and I'm not too fond of immediately either. Dissapointment - why? Guilt I understand because she's leaving some pitiful voices alone, but dissapointment seems the wrong kind of emotion. Unless she's disappointed in herself in which case shame/guilt etc. are probably better choices.
"Are you trying to scare me? It’s a nice trick. And you know it’s working…" this seems incredibly unrealistic to me. Especially followed by she hated to admit she was afraid. Then the line after that about weakness.... well when I'm confronted by bodiless voices and glowing circles, I'm not gonna be thinking about people judging me. This sentence would be better in a less tension filled moment, and Ava would be better off bluffing that she's not scared and revealing in her thoughts that she's terrified.
Good things: I like the bit about her aunt's rules, but I think it would have more impact and be smoother if earlier in the story her aunt was being like, "Don't talk to strangers. Don't go to bed with your hair wet, etc." and Ava's remembering that now and thinking none of it is any use in current circumstances. If this is early in the book, then of course that's irrelevant, so I'd just clean up those lines a bit, because they're kind of clunky but nice. Structurally, in terms of passage, voice, passage, voice, good.
grammar: Okay, but you need more commas. Also, you mix a plural - Aunt's warnings hadn't..... and it hadn't... should be they.
“Yeah, and then there is this floor that I’ve never been able to go on because it’s for couples only – heterosexual couples,” he clarifies, continuing unmercifully. “Since I’m gay…you know I’m gay, right?” She nods, not looking up from her bowl. “Well, since I’m gay, I’m always with my partner so I can’t go. Khet, you know, you should come as my date so we can go on the “couples” floor.”
She ignores the strange comment, continuing to eat, wondering if this man just wants to get onto the heterosexual floor, or if he wants to get onto the heterosexual floor with her. Not getting the silent hint, he repeats his request again.
“I’m pretty sure my husband wouldn’t be okay with that,” she nicely replies, noting an invitation for her husband was not forth coming. Not that it would have been accepted, of course.
First impression: well written, modern, the guy seems like a dick - and since this is from teh girl's perspective that's a good thing.
Crit: minor problems: he clarifies, continuing unmercifully. Either, he clarifies. Continuing unmercifully, "dhadsg or he clarifies. "Souah. I prefer just he clarifies. Khet, you know, - is this the girl, or his boyfriend? I can't tell, but if it's the boyfriend the full stop needs to be a hyphen or something. "She ignores the strange comment, continuing to eat, wondering if this man just wants to get onto the heterosexual floor, or if he wants to get onto the heterosexual floor with her" reword smoother, I dislike contuing..., wondering.... straight after each other. Either start a new sentence with her wondering or her thoughts or put an and between. I think switching straight to her thoughts has more impact, e.g. Does this man just want to... but I don't know if you're writing thoughts directly into narrative. "The silent hint" just the hint is probably better. 'Repeats his request again' repeat and again = redundancy. She nicely replies - politely? noting an invitation... this seems a bit too quick to note. She should give him the chance to ask before scorning him like this. Major problems: none :)
good things: I think it's great. I'm getting a clear sense of both personalities through just this tiny bit of dialogue, and it's very smoothly written. To my eyes, it really just needs some tweaking of the minutiae.
grammar: good.
buy, turn, shelve: I'd turn the page - not having a summary I don't know if I'll actually like the story, but I like the writing at least.
It's an interesting passage. He says "you know" a lot, which is a bit annoying. But he seems like he's supposed to be an annoying character, so perhaps you did that on purpose.
Grammer: I find writing in present tense hard so admire people who do it well. Kudos!
The one sentence I wasn't particularly fond of was: "Khet, you know, you should come as my date so we can go on the “couples” floor.” For two reasons...the 'you know' thing, but also because the stuff after the second comma refers her, not Khet...which is the person you're talking about in the first part of the sentence. So maybe break it up into two:
"Khet, you remember him right? Anyway, you should come as my date, so we can go on the "couples" floor."
Grade: B+, but could easily be put up to an A
Good things: It's easy to get a sense of personality of both characters. I like that you're keeping the POV entirely from her view while having most of the dialogue from him. It's well written in that regard.
Buy, put down, or tun the page?: I'd keep reading.
Not only did you pick the very sentence I have been having trouble with, I didn't realize I tend to overuse "you know." I'm going to watch for it elsewhere.
“I don’t even know who they are!” Laura screamed, and stopped the car. “Screw this….. I’m going home!” She slammed the door shut as hard as she could, leaving Lui and his bleeding shoulder behind. The street was quiet, the was air cold, and lights were out in the surrounding houses. Exhausted, she sank down next to the car, burying her face in her hands.
No thoughts invaded, just an empty black void. Laura swallowed; waited for her breathing and pulse to settle. A car door opened and closed. Then another one -- opening and closing. Feet shuffled and something heavy and warm -- a body -- slumped down to her left. After it, a rasping sound of metal against the asphalt.
Laura exhaled. Just a minute more of nothing, she thought. Let me just settle.
[Note.. hoping that this turns into italics.. if not.. That's suppose to be in italics ;)]
I like it! Few thoughts: -Generally, I find it more productive to see ellipses (...) with just three dots. It seems more professional. -The semicolon was misplaced because after the ; was a fragment. If you added "she" it could work. -You changed tenses with the open and close line. Pick opened or opening, but don't use both. -I disliked the transition "After it". You might want to consider changing that.
Grade: C. 80/100, mostly for grammatical issues
Turn the page? Maybe, once those nitpicky errors are corrected :)
Haha cool. I really love your writing and the way you build suspense. Lui's shoulder is awesome, and I love the body as well as Laura's reaction to it. :) Again, though, a few things to consider. "The was air cold" should be "the air was cold." I suspect that you made this mistake because your brain corrected for what it should be. To avoid this kind of problem, read your writing out loud.
Also, I don't think that the black void invaded Laura. If it did, I think this sentence needs to be clearer, but the sentence is not so distracting that I would stop reading to correct it in my mind. I also have trouble picturing the car doors opening and closing. What exactly is going on here? If two doors opened at the same time, then that needs to be stated.
I really like the way you punctuated around the body and the fact that you described that it was warm. I'm not sure what the rasping sound of metal against the asphalt is about- does the reader? Is he supposed to know?
Finally, are you still looking for beta readers? I must admit that I'm kind of hooked on your style. :)
I'm glad you enjoyed it! Yes I realized the "was" got misplaced... The doors are not opening at the same time. It's first one then the other.. I may try to clarify that it's the same car that Laura just exited. And the void could less intrusive ;)
The rasping sound on the asphalth is hopefully clear to the reader who has paid atention. But I want to make the sound more specific.. without saying the rsping sound of an attaché case against the asphalth. =)
I am still looking for beta-readers. I need to warn you that my style also contains a good deal of dialogue, but judging from your refund-on-heaven line, I think you'd enyou the banter.
Send me an NaNo-mail or regular at fanhe322(@)student(.)liu(.)se (and no that's not lui.se...)
crit: minor problems: elipses = three dots. No more, no less. Laura screamed, slamming on the breaks. Laura sighed and stopped the car. Pick one. Screw this... no. Screw this! elipses lack force. She slammed the door shut as hard as she could - too wordy for something so simple. She slammed the door as hard as she could. She slammed the door (shut). That description of the street is a bit flat. Give it more pep and vary the structure or pare it down to its essence - that the street is dark and deserted. "Exhausted, she sank down next to the car, burying her face in her hands." Doesn't really work because you've got two consecutive actions to the main clause. Try: Exhausted, she sank down next to the car, and buried her face in her hands. She sank down next to the car, burying her face tiredly in her hands. Look, I'd just cut the exhausted, because bury face in hands is stronger. But also, the exhausted jars me a bit because she's just been slamming doors and screaming. Maybe if it was suddenly exhausted, it would fit better. "No thoughts invaded, just an empty black void" I don't get this. Major problems: it needs rewording and refining, as pointed, but it's pretty good. Your language tends to contrast the mood you're trying to evoke - e.g. stopped the car, while screaming? - so watch out for that when you're editing.
grammar: okay, but not great. Watch your sentence structure.
Good points: I like how you're developing the scene, with things happening in the background that aren't fully explained, like the car doors opening and closing the body slumping down to her left. good tension and suspense.
Thank you! I agree with you; o elipses, exclamation mark, sceram first Then stop the car, slam the door withouth the need of mentioning shut.. etc..
I may switch the drak to something like deserted, since it's obvious since before that this is during the night so I don't think anyone will picture the street as basking in sun-light.
Suddenly overthrown by (the) exhaustion, she sank down next to the car, and burried her face in her hands. (Probably better.) No thoughts invaded. Her mind was a black, wordless void. (May try to change this still. wordless is redundant since it's a void, but I like the thought of having two adjectives here...)
Vincent was the first to voice the strangeness. They chose to sit near the edge of the dock, just to take some time to soak in the surroundings. Though they both quickly noticed that there was a different feel to the entire place, they just chalked it up to it being America. Neither had ever been there before, but they had seen pictures.
“The girls really dress different here, do they not?” Vincent asked casually, appreciating the form-fitting clothes. Renée rolled her eyes in response and he looked at her and smiled mischievously. Then his eyes went wide. “Your rash is gone!” He exclaimed. Renée patted her face. Then she touched her forehead. “I do not have a fever either…and I do not feel weak! I think I am cured of typhus!” As she loudly shouted this, two people walking off the dock looked down at her with puzzled faces. But it was New York. There were weird creatures everywhere. So they continued walking away . Still Renée had caught their sharp look - as if typhus was some unusual disease. Looking around, it seemed like the War had not given waste to dirty surroundings in America. Maybe typhus really was uncommon here. She shrugged, accepting her personal explanation and looked down at the paintbrush in her hands. It had somehow changed back in the form of a tiny golden charm. Renée decided to keep it in her skirt pocket. Rejoining Vincent in looking around, she noticed that other girls seemed to be extremely comfortable in jeans. Renée twisted her lips in puzzlement. She was sure only factor workers wore jeans. Plus, these jeans seemed uncomfortably tight. The zippers were not even on the side, as they should be on woman’s jeans. The guys even seemed to be wearing jeans with a bizarre tighter fit. Was this the fashion in America? Renée found it exceptionally odd. Why would someone purposely take on the style of a factory worker?
Well written and smooth. Just a few notes... -Twisted her lips in puzzlement is awkward to me. That may be a personal issue but just telling you how I feel. -Maybe combine "This was New York. There were weird creatures everywhere." it might run more smoothly.
Overall, I enjoyed this and had to reread it three times to find anything critique worthy. I laughed at the factory worker bit.
Grade? A 98/100
Turn the page or buy? Based on these paragraphs, I would buy this book
I feel like pursed her lips is somewhat too common (or that I've used that expression elsewhere in my novel and want to stay away from it!). I like the wrinkle brow, but I've used that for Vincent somewhere else :/
First impression: good first sentence. Second impression: argh no! time travel! I hate time travel!
crit: minor problems: get your dialogue right. If they speak like people did in WWII, then it's differently, not different - adverb vs. adjective. Also, strangely is more natural in these circumstances. Also girls is a bit suspect - lasses, ladies, women. Do they not is slightly too archaic and formal. I do not... I do not... people contracted them back in the 40's. Major problems: paragraphing. Stiff writing. Too many unneccessary words, long sentences, and repetition. Too obvious with the jokes. Too obvious in general. Paragraphing - I would turn this into about eight paragraphs. For each new speaker, a new paragraph. There are also several points where there seem to be natural breaks, like after skirt pocket.
Stiff writing - because of the obviousness, unneccessary words, long sentences, and repetition. What I mean by that is "Still Renée had caught their sharp look - as if typhus was some unusual disease." We know typhus is an unusual disease, so don't say so! Also, the thing about the jeans, condense it. It's obvious and repetetive.
Stiff writing - back up the top as well "They chose to sit near the edge of the dock, just to take some time to soak in the surroundings. Though they both quickly noticed that there was a different feel to the entire place, they just chalked it up to it being America. Neither had ever been there before, but they had seen pictures." Too many words, and most of them unimportant. All I think really needs to be said here is that they're sitting on the edge of the dock, because vincent is just about to say, this place is weird. We don't need to know that they haven't been there before. We don't need to know they've seen pictures. We don't need to know it's a different feel (which is too vague anyway) because vincent's just about to say so. Also, chalking up to being in America is too obvious, again. Their thoughts and speech express that they think it's America that is weird, and don't suspect time travel.
Grammar: Work on your sentence structure. Everything else is fine.
Good points: Good humour, you've obviously done some research, and there are a few sentences I really like, like the first one, and the New york, weird creatures everywhere bit. The problem is that all this is hidden under a bulky writing style.
buy, turn shelve: it needs too much editing for me to want to read it yet. Not to mention, I hate time travel. But I think after editing it'll be pretty good.
There wasn't really anything i found wrong with that, it was really well written. I was going to say that you should speak more about their surroundings in New York especially since its just came after the war but i would suspect that would follow in the next few paragraphs.
No real grammar mistakes it flowed really well and was definitely told the way it was happening without going off in any tangents.
9/10 (I dont grade)
Definitely a page turner for me, i would keep reading
The next day, I woke up before anyone else in the Conley household to do my chores. I wandered out to the barn absentmindedly, without a clue of what I was supposed to be doing. All I knew is that I was allegedly feeding a horse. Did I have a clue how to feed a horse? Not even the slightest. I creaked open the barn doors with a flick of my wrist and shuffled in. It was still dark outside, so the barn was eerily ill-lit. I was glancing around when all of a sudden the barn doors smacked shut. I jumped, immensely startled. Now I couldn’t see anything at all. I let out a small whimper. It was now occurring to me that walking into a foreign, dark barn practically in the middle of the night was not the greatest of ideas. I scuffed around, holding out my arms in a blind attempt to keep from running into anything. I failed miserably because I tripped over a stray bucket. I fell to ground and slammed my knee onto the floor of the barn with a hard thud.
All of a sudden, the barn door crashed open and a stream of unidentified light poured in. I squinted and saw an unknown figure standing there with a lantern in his hand. “Robert?” I called out hopefully.
I really like the first paragraph. The subtle cues about location were done extremely well, very gracefully.
That said, I was disappointed by the second paragraph because I was expecting the same quality - wanted it because I was in the barn with you - but it wasn't there. It was choppy and told me more than showed me what was going on with sort of a "now I'm doing this, now I'm doing that" feel. I'm guessing you hadn't edited it yet.
My suggestion - work on the second paragraph until it flows. Evaluate whether a wrist can really "flick" a heavy barn door open, as well as unnecessary words such as "unidentified" if all you are trying to say is a "...stream of light poured in." Throw in unidentified and suddenly I think we are dealing with a UFO, and even if we are, I don't want to be tipped off like that.
I give it a B- but I can tell you can fix it easily.
If all three paragraphs read like the first, I would BUY IT. I like your style that much.
crit: minor problems: it's a bit juvenile, and I'm not sure if that's the voice of the MC or your writing style. major: needs editing and smoothing out. Watch your adverbs, because there's a few too many of them. immensely, eerily, miserably, allegedly, absentmindedly all seem unneccessary to me. Same with adjectives - unidentified, unknown, small, don't add anything to your story. There are points where you've rushed and not expressed things clearly - e.g. "I wandered out to the barn absentmindedly, without a clue of what I was supposed to be doing." But she knows she's got to feed the horse? I'd prefer something like, I wandered out to the barn, knowing I had to feed the horses, but not sure exactly how. The middle paragraph could be lengthened and more detail added. scuffed is the wrong word. I don't know what you mean there. in a blind attempt would be better as blindly holding out my arms in an attempt. I was glancing around - better off, I was searching for the hay/feed mix.
grammar: okay. As I said - very american. Since this is set in america, that's not a bad thing.
good things: bouncey, light kind of style, that's easy to read and entertaining.
buy, turn, shelve. I doubt I'd buy this but I think I'd borrow it from the library.
Three paragraph critique
So, I think that the title explains a lot. Three paragraphs from anywhere in the novel to be commented on.
No title or summary.
Just the three paragraphs.
If you comment:
Critique: (how was it, what could be changed)
Grammer: (I know, it's my evil nemesis as well)
Grade: (either 1-5 or letter grades)
Good things: (please include this)
Buy, put down, or tun the page?: (if this were in a bookshop which would you do?)
One note: I know that people can get overshadowed, so please refrain from posting your synopsis until you see at least one critique on the paragraphs above you. Just so that everybody can get feedback.
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By the way, If you want to post more than once on this thread with 3 paragraphs you can.
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Memory Number One
"Mommy!"
The screech sets my throat on fire, but I don't care. My mother. My own mother. She's all I have left. They can't take her. I won't let her do this. No. No.
"No." It's as if my mother is reading my thoughts. "We've talked about this, Evol." Her voice is perfectly calm, at ease, almost reassuring. "In fact, I think it's time. They'll be here any minute now."
"Mommy!" The sobs rack me, punish me for letting her do this, for allowing it to happen. "What if you're not useful?" I'm screaming through my tears now. I know how hard it is to screech and sob by this point. And I'd hate to lose my voice before our goodbyes. "What if they...they..." I can't finish the sentence. I can't think it. I can't say it. No matter how much I believe it's what will happen. The deepest, darkest imaginings in the pitts of my black life will be here, arriving at the doorstep in just minutes.
"Oh, don't worry. There'll be nothing to see. If they don't like my level of intelligence, they'll shun me away. They can't afford another death, Evol. The human race is perishing. There's not too many of us left. They need me." All meaningless sentences, which we force ourselves to believe.
"Then why can't I be out of hiding? Don't they want to know what I have to offer?"
"Not until you're eighteen. Right now you still have a chance of growing, learning, existing." My mother, with her young age, bright green eyes, and even her prematurely graying blonde hair, will be gone. All gone. Gone. Not here, there, anywhere on this earth. Not living.
Gone.
"No, Mommy! I won't let them take you! Please, please no! Hide with me! Don't risk it. Don't do it." But my pleading is in vain. If they come here, they come knowing the house is not abandoned. That's why we got the note. The note that changed everything. The note--like a warning of death. If you run, they'll make it worse. If you attempt to conceal yourself, they'll announce the amount of blood there was on you when you died to your family. But if...if you come willingly, they'll go easy on you. Make it quick. They'll keep it quiet. Your family can then pretend that you were smart enough, that they took you to go live another life a ways away. I shudder involuntarily, remembering when I was seven and my mother had explained this to me, with my father's face buried in his hands, as we huddled around the fireplace. How dead her expression got, how she started to cry, rocking me in her arms. I had been frozen with indeciscion. When your leaders did not know which way to turn, you didn't either.
So pretending is what we turn to. Let's just say they got away, believe it...
But we all know. And if you get in their way during their procedures, they'll kill you too. That's why I have to stay trapped. Hidden. Safe as it gets. But my mother?
No. They can't do this to her. We've been out here, living like animals in the woods for so long. Now they've found us. All vulnerable and open from every angle in our small clearing. And they discovered Mommy.
Old enough to take the test.
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I've never done one of these before, so my advice might not be any good.
Critique: (how was it, what could be changed)
In terms of emotionalness: great. I almost cried. I think that all the questions she asks her mother make it feel a little bit crowded though. Also, I think that it gets a bit confusing when you say earlier that she'll be smart enought to get by, and then later contradict that and say that that never happens. I think if you explained it all at the same time it would make more sense.
Grammer: (I know, it's my evil nemesis as well)
Yeah, it's my nemesis too. I can't really say anything except for maybe cut down on the one word sentences. A few are okay, but more just make the page seem cluttered.
Grade: (either 1-5 or letter grades)
B- (but I really have no idea)
Good things: (please include this)
Fricken exciting. I can feel the desperation in Evols voice. It makes me want to learn more about the world that all of this is happening in, and what will happen to her mother.
Buy, put down, or tun the page?: (if this were in a bookshop which would you do?)
Turn the page. I would read on to see a little more of what was happening. I probably wouldn't buy, but that's only because this isn't really my kind of book.
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Sorry, that was meant to be a critique of She Believed
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This is VERY rough, but here it goes:
What is the appropriate reaction when your 59 year old mother calls to tell you that she and her girlfriend have decided to buy a farm and raise alpacas for their fleece? There are probably several viable options to choose from, ranging from Your girlfriend? to What the fuck? Either of those would suffice in most cases. My response: “What’s an alpaca?”
“They’re like sheep but with long necks. Yeah, we’re gonna be rich!” she replied with the excitement that can only be described as a six year old telling you about the new Pixar movie.
When she noticed the exceptionally long silence on the other end of the phone, she continued with her attempt to convince me of her new venture’s worth. In a tone that sounded like the word “duh” should have been placed at the end of her sentence, she added, “They’re from Peru [duh]. We ordered a catalog from the Alpaca Breeders Association. You have to look at it!” An attempt to add credibility, I’m sure. “And you should have seen it. They had a pooper-scooper that you can ride on, but they actually don’t really poop that much.”
At this point you may be asking why I had such an understated response to such a strange announcement. I’ll tell you.
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If someone has time, I'd really appreciate anyone's opinion, especially if you're a more experienced writer. Thanks!
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I'm a completely inexperienced writer, but I'll give you my opinion anyway. It may be completely worthless.
Critique: (how was it, what could be changed)
Really Funny. I almost lol'd at "What's an alpaca?"
I think that it's a little hard for me to get into. I wasn't really wondering why she had responded so understatedly by the last paragraph. I just figured that she was flabbergasted and didn't know how to respond. If theres a story behind the reason she didn't respond, I think that you need to make it clearer that she really wasnt affected by the announcement.
Grammer: (I know, it's my evil nemesis as well)
Is the "duh" supposed to be in brackets? I have no idea what the correct way to put that in is, but it just looked a little strange to me. I may be an idiot.
Grade: (either 1-5 or letter grades)
C
Good things: (please include this)
Hilarious. The idea that someone would be so happy with breeding Alpacas is hilarious. Also, I think that I can get a really good sense of the characters' personalities from the little exchange. I can really get a good image of both of them.
Buy, put down, or tun the page?: (if this were in a bookshop which would you do?)
Turn the page. I want to see if the rest is just as funny. I don't think I'd buy it though. It wouldn't suck me in.
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And this was meant to be a critique of glasgsar. This reply thing is messing with me.
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Here are my first three pharagraphs:
Some stories--in fact, most of them--start at the beginning. But this one starts before that, because first, there are some things you need to know before you will be able to understand this group of events that are very real and very dangerous. It’s amazing how the average human can read a group of true events and pass them off as ‘fiction’. They believe everything so easily… everything but the truth. This story is not a story. I am simply recording the information that has been relayed back to me. These events are very real. Now, back to my first point, to understand you must start before the beginning at the past in a world that has many similarities to ours, but also their fair share of differences.
It was a dark and stormy night. Okay, it wasn't. Actually it was a bright and sunny morning, but that simply does not do the foretelling of a disastrous day for the Dream World justice. Anyway, the castle situated at the north end of the town appeared no different and neither did anything of this rather ‘normal’ place in which the ruler of the Dream World resided, in fact this area was the most similar to the “Real World’s”- that is how they refer to our world- society. The small city had the feeling of a medieval country and that was as accurate a description as any. Up in the castle the ruler was conversing with their most trusted advisor, an elder man that devoted his life to assisting The Divine Leader.
“The East sector of the Dream World has been having a hard time controlling the high amount of growlers in their area,” began the advisor reading from a scroll the different variety of complaints he had been given from the vast world. “The beasts have increased in their hunting and have been killing many-” it was just then that the man was cut off by the sound of the door being opened in a hurry.
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My inexpirenced two cents:
Critique: (how was it, what could be changed)
I like the voice that the first paragraph shows, but I think that it's a bit rambling. You could probably cut out a few sentences and make it easier to read. Also, the dark and stormy night thing doesn't seem to fit with the serious mood that you set in the first paragraph. It seems more like you're making a joke than commenting on what the setting should have been. I think that you need to reword a few sentences in the second paragraph to make them easier to read. I think you could probably cut the sentence about the castle into two sentences.
Grammer: (I know, it's my evil nemesis as well)
Should the - be a --? I never remember the rules about that.
Grade: (either 1-5 or letter grades)
B-
Good things: (please include this)
Great voice. I can really hear the narrator talking to me as I read. Also, I get a slight forboding feeling as I read, that somehting terrible is going to happen.
Buy, put down, or tun the page?: (if this were in a bookshop which would you do?)
Buy, depending on what the back of the book said. Its a genre I like, and it sounds like an interesting story, but it needs some polishing
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So....who goes first...Lol.
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I will:
Terror welled in Zoë's throat. She wanted to sob, but she watched, horribly entranced, as her captor lifted the poker out ot the fire, its tip glowing white hot with the flames that had licked it a moment before. Her breath came out unevenly as she stared at the fire, the glow of the poker searing itself into the back of her eyelids, so that every time she blinked she saw the flames, hot and ready to touch her bare skin.
The touch of the iron was the most painful thing she had ever felt. It took her breath away, rendering her unable to do anything but scream. As the iron sank deeper into her skin she saw the man smile and everything went black.
Zoë woke in a small cell, her burns aching and her feet full of cuts. She tied to stand, but she realized that she was shackled to a wall. Her hand were free though, and for some odd reason a pitched of water was placed on the other side of the cell. Zoë squirmed to reach it, but it was just out of her grasp. Her throat burned from lack of water and her head spun. She tried again and again to grab it until she realized that her ankles were torn and bleeding from the metal that had ripped them up. She touched one, her finger coming away wet. Trying to ignore the pain, Zoë lunged one last time for the pitcher. Her fingertip touched it, but not enough to grab the handle.
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Ok, first impressions:
A little gruesome. Not enough to make me stop reading, but enough that I wouldn't read a novel that was this level of skin-crawling from cover to cover.
That said, three paragraphs was not enough! I reached the end and felt cheated. You hit enter about two too many times, I think. I would definitely turn the page to keep reading!
The one thing that stuck out to me as needing some work is this: afterimages are "seared" into retinas, even though they are "seen" on the inside of your eyelids.
From a second, more careful readthrough:
Pitcher, not pitched, and this sentence sounds a little stilted at the area I've indicated: "her ankles were torn and bleeding [from the metal that had] ripped them up." But that is me being really nit-picky and overall I like it.
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Ok, give me a sec :)
I'll pick mine and post.
And I will respond to yours with what you asked :)
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Erecura~
Critique: I liked it, overall. I feel like I can't tell you whether it's excellent or just good without more context. The transition from one scene to the next was kind of abrupt, but I feel like it would work as part of the whole novel. I also agree that there shouldn't be too many scenes with this level of gruesomeness. This is good, but often gory stuff is more effective when implied instead of seen. For instance, you show your victim the knife, you tell him how you've sharpened it tonight just for him, and the reader's mind can fill in what happens next so effectively that showing it onscreen is almost anticlimactic.
Grammar: In the last paragraph I think you meant to type "tried" instead of "tied". Other than that, although I don't think you have any actual run-on sentences, several of them seem a little too long to flow well. The third sentence in particular could be turned into two.
Grade: I'd give this a solid B for a letter grade.
Good things: Your point of view and character development are great from what I can tell. You communicate what is important to the character, and nothing distracts from that.
Buy, put down, or turn the page?: Turn the page. I can't tell whether I'd enjoy the novel's subject matter just from this, but I feel like there's a good chance.
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First impression: hasn't been proofread, clumsy.
critique: minor problem: typos, but it's just post nano now so it's understandable. Major problem: description is too brief and not physical enough and your language is detracting from the scene and mood.
Run on sentences don't heighten the tension, and everything is distanced from the action and zoe experiences things mentally rather than physically. Make your long sentences short, and describe things physically, e.g. instead of, "The touch of the iron was the most painful thing she had ever felt," describe the pain. Also, you can't scream when you're out of breath so fix that, and run through for other innacuracies (I also suspect iron will burn red-hot not white-hot in an ordinary fire). The second paragraph is a different scene and it's easier on critics if you give them multiple paragraphs from one scene, by the way. But it also needs a lot more physical description. She realized she was shackled to a wall? How? Do the chains clink and does she trip on them? Can she feel their weight on her ankles? Again, she realised that her ankles were torn and bleeding - show the pain of them tearing. Also, in the next sentence, she touches one and her finger comes away wet - if she already knew they were bleeding, then why would she do this? Also, lunged is too energetic. I would expect Zoe to lie down on the floor and stretch herself out to her utmost, because you know she's burned and bleeding and chained in presumably heavy chains.
Grammar: Not an issue.
Grade: I don't grade, sorry.
Good things: Coherent and logical, from what I've read here it seems like the scene is well-developed in your mind. This is definite first draft status but after editing I would turn the page.
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My three Paragraphs:
Johnny kicked the chair that Tony used. His father walked in right after that. He came in from the back.
“Dad! W..Where did you come from?” Johnny asked.
“You did good, kid. C’mere. You too good to welcome your father with some respect?” Bruno was holding out his hands towards Johnny. Johnny walked over to him and greeted him with a kiss on both cheeks.
“Sorry, Dad,” Johnny said. “It’s that Rat. I can’t stand to look at him...gets under my skin every time.”
“I know, Johnny. That’s why I sent him out to Bensonhurst in the first place. I knew you didn’t like him. But I also knew he was trouble. Killed him is what I should’ve done. It’s too late now. What’s done is done.”
“What are you talkin about? I thought you were gonna question him?” Johnny asked.
“Ah, why should I? We both know he’s a Rat. And be both know he ain’t gonna come clean even if we beat it out of him. Nah, I got somethin better for that punk,” Bruno said.
“I’m all ears,” Johnny said with a smile. They both grabbed a seat at the bar. The bartender poured them two cognacs.
“What have I always told you since you were little,” Bruno asked his son.
“Well, you’ve always said what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger,” answered his son.
“No...Well, yes, yes, that’s important too, but that’s not what I’m talkin about. I mean concerning your enemies.”
“Oh, keep your enemies close. But keep your enemies’ spies closer,” answered Johnny.
“Yes, Yes! Now, listen closely. Everything that man owns is tapped. That’s why I brought him out here. They should be just about through with his car. By the time he gets back to Brooklyn, if he farts, I’m gonna know about it. Johnny, I’m too old for this, I’ll tell you that right now. I’m gonna leave everything to you. But first, I need to see how you handle this guy. This will be your ultimate test. I know you’re a great kid and I love you, son. But that temper. You gotta get that under control if you’re gonna take control of this territory. I’m not talkin about this territory; I’m talkin about taking back Bensonhurst.”
“Wait, I’m sorry, I didn’t hear you. For a second, I thought you said we’re gonna take back Bensonhurst from the Russians,” Johnny said with one eyebrow cocked.
“Oh, you heard me! We both know they’ve been cheating us on our little percentage we’re supposed to be getting. Remember, they’re only renting that territory from us, you got that!” Bruno started coughing.
“Yeah, dad, I know. You okay?” Johnny asked his father.
“I’m fine. Listen, don’t worry about me. Worry about what’s comin outta my mouth. If we can take care of this ourselves, then voting you in for the eastern territory will be a piece of cake. Everybody will love you ‘til the day you die. You understand?”
“I understand, dad, but how do you suppose we’re gonna convince the Russians they done a bad thing by us and it’s time they paid up?” Johnny was getting nervous. He knew he wasn’t going to like the answer to his question.
“That’s the beauty of it. It all comes down to our little scum bucket...Tony.”
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BlessedBklynite~
If you want a critique using the form above, let me know! Otherwise I'm just going to tell you what I thought of it, overall.
First, your dialogue is excellent, one of the rare examples I've seen of a well-written accent. It flows perfectly. It sounds like the characters are actually talking. Just because of that I'd keep reading.
The action leaves something to be desired, though. There's nothing wrong with what you have the characters doing, but it falls a little flat when you use the same sentence structure repeatedly. Can I suggest including more sound in your characters' actions? Tell us about the way Johnny's boot smacks Tony's chair, or the slam of the door and sudden gust of wind as Bruno enters. Talk about the low murmur of voices and sound of clinking glasses at the bar. It seems like a device that would fit well with your dialogue skill.
I can't tell much about the plot from just this, but I can tell you that it intrigues me, and for three paragraphs that's good enough. Good work!
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Good Advice! I haven't even thought of that! i mean, DUH...LOL. Thanks for the imput :)
You'll have to buy the book to find out more :)
or go to 200 word forum...Lol
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the little things newbies forget... tsk tsk LOL
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Critique: Some of your sentences are a little choppy (e.g. "His father walked in right after that. He came in from the back") but it is well written overall. It is a bit dialogue heavy, but the speech is very well thought out.
Grammar: Good.
Grade: A-/B+
Good things: Strong sense of voice, it flows well, the speech is intelligent and purposeful. The relationships are also clear.
Buy, put down, or turn the page?: Turn the page, possibly buy depending on the overall plot!
Also, I think I read your opening in another forum post, and I really love this part - it's SO much stronger :)
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WhooHoo! Thank you! I will work on the choppy parts and re-post later :)
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I agree with Dani, but only by a little bit. You have a gift, and yours is dialogue. Many people are really bad with dialogue, so they fluff up their books with useless description so that you're paying more attention to the picture that they're painting rather than their shortcomings in dialogue.
Here is where I differ. When you're dealing with certain areas of the country and similar backgrounds/environments, it's not always necessary to have to change the way that your characters speak. Case in point - I'm a girl from the North, but I've spent some time in the South. As a result, there is a tendency for many people to speak exactly the same way. Sometimes, the only way that you can tell that these are different people is because of their voice. I've heard that it is similar in areas like Brooklyn (from a relative that resided in Bed-Stuy, though). One thing you will also have to do is remain true to your character and remain realistic. My belief is that you should NOT water this exchange down with needless description - that's often what makes me abhor a lot of authors and it kills the mood of a scene when someone is doing something asinine like going into the thought of a character while a detailed dialogue is going on.
This is also a damn sight stronger than your paragraph. This is excellent.
GRADE: A
PURCHASE OR TURN THE PAGE: I would turn the page, and this would become a potential purchase.
GENRE: Possibly mainstream.
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Interesting! That makes sense too! Thank you for your feedback. I will definitely take that into account. :)
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First impression: Very choppy, feels rushed. Seems to be part of a fairly intricate plot, albeit not a genre I'd read (crime drama?)
Critique: Minor problems: The barkeep is a silent actor here. Either get rid of him and make them pour their own cognac, or make him do something significant (then again, I don't know what came before this so maybe he does have some purpose). Major problems: Language is too choppy, too many dialogue tags, and the writing is simple and brief while the dialogue is lengthy - that could be a stylistic thing though, and you can make that work.Go through everything that isn't dialogue (or dialogue tags) and smooth it out. E.g. Johnny kicked at Tony's chair as his dad came through the back door, rather than "Johnny kicked the chair that Tony used. His father walked in right after that. He came in from the back." Also, way too many dialogue tags. Get rid of them wherever they aren't absolutely neccessary. This is a conversation between two people so there really shouldn't be many of them. Bruno asked his son... answered his son coming straight after each other is just too much tag.
Grammar: Okay, but not great. E.g. "the chair that Tony used" should be "the chair that Tony had used.
Good things: Dialogue. It's carrying the plot at the moment, and even though I don't know the details of the plot, I'm pretty sure it's doing it well. A few points seemed stiff to me, e.g. W...Where did you come from? I'd just have "Where did you come from?" because I dislike elipses unless absolutely neccessary. but for the most part, good.
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Thank you very much for your feedback. I like what you said about having too many dialog tags. I agree. I will work on that. I have an issue on how to use dialog tags so I will have to do some research on that. The barkeep is meant to be silent during this dialog, but I will add something like, after he poured the cognac, he headed to the basement to give them some privacy... or, you know, remove him from the scene. He was active right before the beginning of the dialog, so since he is not used here, you're right, he should be dismissed. Thank you for your advice!
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You've got lots of good feedback here, so I'm just going to be the jerk and point out that this is 15 paragraphs. Not 3. If you're planning on doing something with this, you should probably get a handle on where paragraphs actually start and end, or your editor is going to want to kill you. ;)
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to Erecura:
Critique: (how was it, what could be changed) : Really scary, maybe leave more to the imagination
Grammer: (I know, it's my evil nemesis as well): a few misspells, but who doesn't without spell check...Lol
Grade: (either 1-5 or letter grades) : with five being the best, I grade a 4
Good things: (please include this) : I like how you are very good at explaining how the girl felt deep down in what was taking place.
Buy, put down, or tun the page?: (if this were in a bookshop which would you do?) : I think I would be scared to turn the page but would turn anyway because I want to see what happens...Lol
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My three paragraphs:
#1:
Ashuton lifted his head, and he felt his muscles ache with weariness from the fight. He ran to the nearest dragon cottage and slipped inside. Nyota followed after, locking the cottage door, and where the Dragon should have been there was a man. This man looked to be in his mid-twenties, and his hair was quite long, it looked a bit longer than her's. He was European, she knew that much, and the inhabitants detested Europeans. The man was coughing up blood and could hardly walk. She cautiously walked up to him.
#2:
Kayla settled her egg in the hollow of a tree where it was sure to be warm
And everyday she nurtured the egg with heat from her body
And Jonas would be right there to give heat from his body
Though it was tiring, they took turns watching over the precious egg
Jonas would care for the egg like Kayla had been doing
And although he questioned whether the egg was real, he continued to give it his heat
He hoped to see some spark of life form the egg, but it lay as dormant as a volcano.”
#3:
For hours he toured the shrine with her, reading all the songs on the walls
He explained to her the roles of the Dragon gods
Ashuton didn’t hesitate to explain it to her, “Rodderan was the dragon god of science and thus he helped God in creating the stars, cosmos, nebulae and planets that exist within the universe
Canman was born from Rodderan’s science
And his job was to bring light and illumination to those whom need it
He also created the moon and used it as his body
He said, “this way I can illuminate the night.”
Lementia, the goddess of Dragons, had ownership of the young sun
Without her I would have been able to produce dragon eggs
She blessed me with the fertility of the Gods.”
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I hope it's a "buy"! :)
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I'm really not sure how to take this. It reads something like a fairy tale/fable/epic poem but the subject matter isn't. For the first paragraph you're just rushing onwards and describing this happened, that happened, and then that happened. Same as the second paragraph. They need description, to me. Also, you seem to change perspectives too rapidly, between Nyota and Ashuton. It's confusing.
Last paragraph you begin to infodump.
As I said, I'm not sure how to read this so I don't think I can critique it fairly, but if I was going to read this, I'd need a lot more show and a lot less tell.
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thank you for the critique. I picked the three paragraphs from anywhere in the book, they aren't the same scene which is probably why it was a mess. Sorry if it confused you. Poetry is more my specialty, which is why it reads like poetry, but you are right, it needs more description. The book itself was intended to be science fiction but somehow a few fantasy elements wriggled themselves in there. Thank you for the critique, I appreciate it!
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I have read one book before that was written like a series of poems, but it was a novel. I really liked it - but it was YA/drama so things could be simpler and more conceptual, I suppose. It would be harder to do that with fantasy/sci-fi themes but if it was done well I think it could be awesome. So, you don't neccessarily need to curb your poetic insticts :)
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Ahem...LOL
One note: I know that people can get overshadowed, so please refrain from posting your synopsis until you see at least one critique on the paragraphs above you. Just so that everybody can get feedback.
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As Captain Orr led the second party into the fray and broadsides continued beneath their feet, Edward crossed swords with a uniformed man. His eyes looked black, and Edward almost thought him a fiend. His lean face was covered in blood, and his uniform was awash in the same. For all the madness in his eyes, his movements were fluid. It took him only seconds to put Edward in a defensive position. Yet the Englishman’s brawling style of swordplay was nothing to compare with the Frenchman’s easy, trained movements. Edward tried to flee, but his opponent seemed capable of taking three steps to his every one. When Edward lost his footing and fell to the deck, the man was over him in an instant. He put his foot just under Edward’s ribs and raised his sword to strike the killing blow. Edward stared up at the demon and flashing blade and could only wait.
The blow never came. Instead, Orr appeared. He struck the armed man, slashed his blade across the Frenchman’s sword arm. Blood poured freely. A kick took the enemy officer’s knee from under him, and he staggered. Orr stepped over Edward without a second thought to hold his sword against the man’s throat. “Where is your captain?” he snarled. Edward found himself wondering if Orr hoped the man would refuse to answer so he would have an excuse to slit his throat.
“Lieutenant Jean-Remington Martineau,” the man said in a heavy accent. He managed the next words in English, though they were difficult to understand, try as he might to enunciate, the action had almost robbed him of whatever skill at English he had. “My captain is dead, and I surrender.”
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Not used to critiquing .. but here goes:
Critique: (how was it, what could be changed)
Overall, I liked it. It needs some polish. For example, I'd like more feelings from Edward - not just tried to flee .... lost his footing and fell .... stared up at the demon ... I want to feel his desperation, his terror - and then the relief as Orr saves him!
Some notes:
Orr stepped over Edward without a second thought
As I'm in Edward s POV .. he wouldn't know what Orr is thinking or not thinking...
Yet the Englishman’s brawling style of swordplay was nothing to compare with the Frenchman’s easy, trained movements.
This feels like an outsider's POV, would Edward describe himself as "the Englishman"?
Grammer: (I know, it's my evil nemesis as well)
Nope, not going to comment on grammar since English is my second language and I might be as wrong myself =)
Grade: (either 1-5 or letter grades)
Ummm .... 3, very close to 4, I think
Good things: (please include this)
When Edward lost his footing and fell to the deck, the man was over him in an instant. He put his foot just under Edward’s ribs and raised his sword to strike the killing blow.
This! And the last part is also very good.
Buy, put down, or tun the page?: (if this were in a bookshop which would you do?)
I'm not so interested so I would buy it after just this look, but I like it enough to turn the page =)
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So ... I'll throw in one of my own. Had to do a bit of searching, because usually my first drafts is very dialogue-heavy and three lines of talking doesn't make much sense at all .. =)
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Mateo closed the door to the guesthouse behind him, and released a breath. His heart was still pounding, fury burned his belly and he thanked all lucky stars that he hadn't Vipolior or Cazid within reach. If he had, he probably would have dome something incredibly stupid.
Shaking his head, he tried to get a grip on himself, but it was unusually difficult. The last few weeks it had become harder to keep a reign on his temper, something he'd never had trouble with before. If he hadn't forgot the scriptcase he'd meant to take with him and had had to go back to fetch it, he would have been gone when Akir rushed in. Well, he'd rather stumbled in, but with that desperation he would have been running if he'd been able to. Clearly, he had, until the wind were out of him. The fury, the desire to hit something, had flared hot with what Akir had told him.
It hadn't been easy to restrain Akir either, and who on earth would blame him? Mateo had not even known Akir had a wife. Now all of it had come tumbling out, i no order whatsoever. Not that Mateo needed any coherent description. He only knew far too well what could, and did, happen with slave girls at some of the parties wealthy young men arranged. And for that matter, with boys.
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Critique: The sentence "...he thanked all lucky stars that he hand't Vipolior or Cazid within reach" doesn't make sense to me - are they people? I also thought some of the sentences were too compounded - " If he hadn't forgot the scriptcase he'd meant to take with him and had had to go back to fetch it, he would have been gone when Akir rushed in", for instance. I really liked the thrid paragraph - I want to find out more!
Grammer: Pretty good - a few errors that made some of the sentences harder to read than they could be, but it is readable.
Grade: (either 1-5 or letter grades)
Good things: The paragraphs are a good length, the end paragraph is very good."He only knew far too well what could, and did, happen with slave girls at some of the parties wealthy young men arranged" is very suggestive!
Buy, put down, or turn the page?: Turn the page.
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Thank you!
Yes, at this point in the story a reader would know who Vipolior and Cazid is - and hopefully not have any nice feelings about them. It's a bit tricky to get any context in this short piece.
English is my second language, so there's got to be many strange sentences in here =)
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This ^^^ was a response to vmorr ...
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Hi! I’ve never done a critique in my life, but here’s a good chance to practice!
I like this; you show his anger in a really effective way, and you can just tell that he’s really, really frustrated. The wording can use some editing, like ‘he thanked all lucky stars’ should be ‘he thanked his lucky stars’, and perhaps ‘he’d rather stumbled in’ should be ‘Rather, he had stumbled in’. It’s good what you’ve got but there needs to be some tweaking of language. I think that you could really show that he is raging though, by adding some bits. When he releases a breath, does he spit it out or just sigh?
Try adding in body language too, that’ll help to show how angry he is. On the other hand, the barrage of names is a bit much out of context; I’m assuming that this is not the start of the book, and that by this point we are supposed to know who the characters are? If so, that’s fine, don’t worry! But if it’s the start, I’d recommend trimming down listing all the names, it becomes very confusing. But then, I really like the storyline in this, and honestly it may just be me being pedantic about the phrasing; of course you’d probably edit out these mistakes anyway, so perhaps I don’t need to even point them out. Just ignore them if you like.
But yes, it does make me interested about what Akir did tell them, and why it made him so angry! Good draft, seriously. I just think that if you add in more detail about his frustration, and perhaps cut down the use of names, it would be great!
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Oh! I almost forgot
Grammer: Pretty good - better than most I've seen.
Grade: I'm from the UK so we don't do letter grades, um... but say 4/5, 1 being poor?
Good things: The character is really relatable! I can tell he's angry and this leads me to wonder why. It also makes me desperate to know what he found out!
Buy, put down, or tun the page?: Turn the page and then buy it! Or perhaps download if it was for Kindle :D
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@Lisa.Vail - Thank you!!
I'll definetly keep in mind to use some body-langauge too, and the other things you suggested.
The things about grammar and phrasing ... is probably much due to English being my second language (so I'll ignore it for now). For some reason it's easier fo me to get out a first draft in English, and then it gets polished into Swedish in editing =)
This is a scene-start, but in no way the beginning of the story. It is roughly one third into the first part of a trilogy - and all those names should be well known to a reader.
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I walked in and saw the lion without its paws, lying on the section of marble floor nearest the sink (paw-less), being fed cubes of cheese by one of the girls. He looked fairly unbothered by the whole thing and only inclined his head briefly towards me, barely registering my prescence. The floor around him was streaked with dried blood, the colour sweeping the marble like a grotesque varnish, but his legs (without his paws) seemed like they had completely healed.
My mum ran over to me and muttered, “Who could do such a thing?”. The intonation in her voice made it clear that she meant, “Who could hurt such an amazing, wise, beautiful creature?” although the assumption (“Who could do something so horrific?!”) was also there. I just shook my head, in a way that she must have taken to mean agreement, but I couldn’t take my eyes away from the lion. I felt my face heating up and my eyes burning but I managed to leave the room in a very controlled walk. I made sure not to let tears break through the expression I’d forced onto my face until I was a safe distance away.
I ran up to my room and flicked the light on. The bulb flickered on and off before remaining on, gradually lighting up to its feeble ‘full light’ that the eco-make boasted on the packaging. I looked in the mirror and didn’t instantly recognise my face, my eyes having been replaced into the face of someone who wasn’t about to make everything a whole lot worse. I gathered all the things I thought I’d need (and that were close at hand) and stuffed them all into the biggest rucksack I could find. If I’d ever learnt how to pack properly like my parents had insisted many times, I guess I could’ve taken a smaller bag (or possibly more things). I listened at the top of the stairs, trying to figure out where the majority of sounds were coming from, but all the conversation seemed condensed in one room of the house – the kitchen. I took my chance and ran out of the front door in bare feet, carrying my flip-flops with me. I snagged my cardigan on the trellis that ran the full length of the house as I lost my balance slightly when a stone on the ground hit the arch of my foot, but I didn’t stop running until I’d reached the edge of the woods.
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Hi!
I liked this; the beginning was confusing despite making sense, and it had a WTF factor that, in context, probably makes sense. The lion made me sad, but that's good since it proves that you can stir up some good emotion!
My only issue is the sudden scene change - it may be necessary but I think that there's a more subtle way of transitioning from one scene to another. Maybe just something little like closing their eyes, looking at something, just a little transition scene. Also the one line about "who would do such a thing?" was a little complex despite it making sense, maybe cut this into two sentences?
Grammer: Pretty good
Grade: 4/5, 1 being poor
Good things: It made some emotion stir in me; the first paragraph is so powerful that it really captures your attention wondering what happened!
Buy, put down, or tun the page?: Probably turn the page to see how gory the rest might be, and then buy. (Just cos too much gore isn't my thing).
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Thanks for your feedback :) That's the most 'graphic' bit actually. I agree with the improvements you've said, so thanks!
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First impression: Oooooh playful writing!
Critique: Minor problems: too many brackets, keep them for humorous/ironic effect, not for every sentence, and their impact will be stronger. Also, 'who could do something horrific' is very similar to 'who could hurt such a beautiful creature?' Hurting beautiful things is horrific, generally. And there's no need to have a full stop after ?"
Major problems: Not many, really. It needs a bit of smoothing down, there a couple of redundancies, e.g. "only inclined his head briefly towards me, barely registering my presence". Sentence structure could be more variable I think. Minor problem: "I looked in the mirror and didn’t instantly recognise my face, my eyes having been replaced into the face of someone who wasn’t about to make everything a whole lot worse" I really like this sentence but it needs smoothing down.
Grade: I don't grade.
Grammar: pretty good.
good things: interesting, got a unique voice, and fairly well-written. I really liked it.
buy, turn, shelve - I'd read on a bit and then I'd probably buy.
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having now read your summary, I'd definately buy.
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Thank you for your feedback!! :)
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Prologue
“Now is not the time, Merrill!”
The child scampered back to his feet; his father’s hard push had knocked him to the dirty ground of the courtyard. He gazed up at his parents with wide eyes – his knee bled and yet he already knew better than to cry. Reaching up, he attempted to hold his mother’s hand, but she yanked it from his grip.
“Don’t be stupid, Merrill!” she barked, thrusting the child’s arm away and turning back to the strangers with whom she had been speaking.
“I am terribly sorry about my son,” his father said, shaking his head, “Constantly an irritation.”
The child hung his head and turned to leave. Following nothing in particular, he didn’t realise how far he had gotten from the manor house until he turned and saw that the building had become little more than a softly lit shadow on the horizon. The boy, who was by this time immersed in shadow, wondered where he was. Gazing around, he saw nothing, and heard nothing except for the vague whinnying of horses in the distance. The lost boy followed the sound, finding himself swallowed by the darkness as he wandered through the night.
A horse grunted upon seeing the child, who watched them quietly. Meeting the creature’s eyes, the boy reached out a tiny arm and stretched his hand out to touch the golden fur. The horse shifted slightly, moving its weight away from the boy’s hand, and leaving him looking slightly forlorn. He stepped forward once more, determination showing on his youthful face. He placed a firm hand on the horse’s knee, stretching his fingers out to meet it. The animal jumped, startled, and pulled away with a loud snort. Kicking out its front legs, it reared slightly, threatening to knock the child to the ground with its large, ebony hooves. He froze, eyes wide with fear as the horse’s legs fell rapidly towards him, twice as large and powerful as the child’s entire body -
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Your chapters are very good - i'm presuming you've already edited them? If not, they are very well written.
Grammar: Good
Grade: 4.5/5, 1 being poor
Good things: The reader feels sympathy for the boy, and strong characters are created in a very short space of time. The passage starts strongly, and there aren't any unnecessary words.
Buy, put down, or tun the page?: Turn the page, possibly buy depending on the overall plot. It sounds exciting already!
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Thanks! ^^
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Critique:
The first paragraph grabbed me, but I started losing it by the third. For me as a reader, emotion and motivations as a character, help me relate to the character and make me want to know his/her story. I felt like you did a good job grabbing, but I got lost halfway.
The transition from being admonished by his parents to leaving the manor could be stretched out a bit or made more clear. It might have been just me, but I had to read it 3 times to understand what had happened. Maybe he could reflect on these thoughts, so we have an idea of his mindset, his reaction to these actions? Is this normal? How is he affected by this?
Following that the imagery is powerful again. Though I was jolted that it was suddenly night. For me it was too sudden, and I didn't feel much of a sense of time passing, which could have been what you were going for. But other than shadow, there wasn't much sense of night, which made me wonder why did these parents let their child wander into the night? Just some things you can think about when building characters.
I thought the scene between Merrill and the horse was done well. The only issue I have again, is that the characters seem lifeless in the telling. It's hard to judge from what little is shown, but it feels like this boy could have a lot to say. You could do a lot with explaining some of the inner workings of his mind. What drew him to the horse? Was it just a distraction? Why does he want to touch the horse? Just a couple of thoughts when reading your work that I personally thought could help bring it more to life.
Grammar: I didn't see any problems
Grade: 4, 1 being poor
Good things: Stated in critique I believe.
Buy, put down, or turn the page?: Turn the page at least.
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Thanks! In the prologue you're not really meant to see too much, uh, how do I explain, it's meant to have some distance in it? But I see what you mean, I should add some more details. :D
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First impression: oh god no, abusive parents.
Minor problems: You will lose a LOT of readers by starting out with a story of abusive parents, because either they will feel instant sympathy for the character or instant contempt for the writer. I strongly advise you to show a character's personality before you show that their parents were abusive, not to mention, you're painting the parents as nasty people when they could be distracted or dealing with more important issues than an annoying kid. Greyscale is more interesting than black and white. Oh, and I've never seen a horse with ebony hooves. They tend to be dark grey, dirty, and dull. Major problems: Not many. The word-choices aren't always perfect and the language can be a bit stilted, but this is a rough draft so that's expected. Also, dialogue feels a bit iffy to me.
Good things: coherent and grammatical.
Buy, turn, shelve: I'd shelve this because it starts out with abusive parents and a prologue that shows the main character as a toddler when I'd only care about him as an adult. If these paragraphs were from another section of the story, I'd probably turn the page though.
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Thanks for critiquing! I understand most points you have said, but I'm afraid that I was told by several people that using that opening would be the 'hook', and I'm also afraid that the entire story centres around abusive parents; this IS the story. I understand comments about word choices and dialogue but, as you have said, it is a first draft and so I wouldn't expect it to be perfect. But yes, the whole story follows on like this and so I'm afraid that there's not really any easy way to open dramatically without mentioning the abuse; perhaps you can suggest an easier way?
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I don't think this is much of a hook. Kid's parents are mean and neglectful, kid runs off and gets kicked by a horse. And the kid's parent... aren't that mean. If the entire thing centres around absuive parents, and the choice of never coming back to them or coming when they need help, pick a stronger moment. And I honestly think a kid = poor moment, If you can get inside Merril's thoughts, you've got more emotions to work with, and a kid doesn't have much. When you begin with a kid, all you've got to draw in your readers is the natural sympathy that comes with small fluffy animals, and not everyone has much of that kind of sympathy.
In fact, I would start off wtih his parents being super nice to him when he's older - say in his teens - and Merril being at first suspicious of their motives, and then tentatively happy that they're being kind to him - only to have them turn around and it turns out the only reason they were being nice is because they wanted something from him and when he doesn't give it to them they turn from carrot to stick - e.g. they bought him a new horse because they've just sold his oldest, most favourite stallion to the local horsebreeder for stock, or they're giving him new clothes because they're having a party and he will be there and he will show their friends how awesome thier son is, and when he embarasses them slightly in front of said friends, they blow up in his face. That is, I would begin with the psychology of the abuse and Merril's feelings, rather than the fact of the abuse and merril's actions.
I'm sorry I was harsh before - I thought you were using nasty parents to drive sympathy for your protagonist, which always irritates me. If you're exploring the decisions between abandoning the nasty family and running away for himself, then it's much more interesting.
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Critique: It kept my interest for sure. I was a little confused about why the horses were whinnying. My understanding is that they whinny when they're separated from each other, and they are trying to find each other. And I'm wondering if the horse actually grunts. He might snort if he thinks the kid is dangerous, and that could explain why he rears up a little later. Also, I believe a horse's 'fur' is usually called a coat, so that word choice was a little jarring, but I really liked the suspense in the kid's confrontation with the horse.
Grammar: The grammar seemed fine to me, but some of the writing seemed a bit rough.
Grade: 3.5 (either 1-5 or letter grades)
Good things: I already included the good things, I think. Good suspense, and the little boy caught my interest and sympathy for sure.
Buy, put down, or turn the page?: I'd probably put the book down at 'fur.'
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Thanks! I'll admit, the 'fur' thing cofused me because at the time I couldn't think of any other suitable word; now you post it, 'coat' is obviously the right choice there. I'll also admit that I don't know all that much about horses, they are just a plot device, and so I am less than knowledgable about how they behave... thanks for pointing out my mistakes, I never would have picked up on the horses' behaviour!
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Good luck with it!
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Critique: I liked it very much
Grammer:good
Grade: 4
Good things: right from the start you had me because I wanted to know how the parents would get payback for being jerks, so I disagree with DozyCat on you loosing readers because of it. I loved your description in that part, and I could imagine myself there watching it thinking, hold on a min!
I did get a bit turned around with the quick change from the beginning scene to darkness in the second paragraph. I agree with others on that.
I know a little about horses, and I can't think of ever referring to them as golden in color. To get technical, there are horses out there that shed their summer coat and have what feels like "fur" underneath to keep them warm in extreme winters, but this doesn't sound like it's the case.
As I read the description of the golden fur, I was initially confused, then I thought to myself, oh, it's going to be a lion, it's not a horse at all! I was super excited to expect a cool twist. Then I saw the ebony hooves and knew it wasn't a twist. I have seen ebony hooves at horse shows, but not in the dirt. I agree with DozyCat, horses out in a field have dusty hooves and they do look more grey. One more thing about horses, they whinny for lots of reasons, I think you should keep that. It's classic horse behavior and I can imagine being there hearing it too.
This sentence, "Following nothing in particular, he didn’t realise how far he had gotten from the manor house until he turned and saw that the building had become little more than a softly lit shadow on the horizon" I didn't like because it wasn't smooth for me.
I really like the idea that this kid seems fearless instead of scared after being treated poorly by his parents. I liked that he didn't freak out when he was "swallowed by the darkness" nor did he shirk away from the obviously irritated horse.
Good stuff!
Buy, put down, or tun the page?: I'd keep reading, most likely a buy.
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Ummm, there are several kinds of horses that could have a golden coat. E.g. Palominos and sometimes Buckskins.
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Though I did find myself wondering if it would really look very golden in the darkness. Is there a source of light from somewhere? How much can he see?
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It's very, very low lighting - the only light source is the manorhouse, which is a few hundred yards away, and of course the stars and moon.
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Thanks!
Since posting this, I have actually edited it and changed all the things that you mentioned, since they had been mentioned before by others, too. I like that you think it's interesting, and I'm really grateful for your critique!!
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I'll give this a go :)
The feeling of the wind blowing through your hair, there’s nothing better. A bright summer’s afternoon, the clouds white and puffy as they float lazily across the sky, no destination in mind. Just like me. I once floated across the sky, something so immensely freeing I won’t soon forget it. It’s not normal, for one to fly. It was certainly one of the reasons that I was cast out of my community, or at least, shied away from. They didn’t understand that for me, flying was a way of expressing myself as well as seeing the world in a new way. My name is Delia, I am a Flyhorn.
My wings don’t flap, they don’t even have feathers. I made my wings, but they are still as much a part of me as my arms and my legs. I became fascinated by the Flyhorns when I was seven. I would look up at the sky and see the birds flying overhead and want to be there with them. The Flyhorns were not seen in my community. They were outsiders, people who came to trade things amongst normal people for money. When I heard they were coming I would run into the streets to see them, sit by all the other children as they told us stories of what they had seen and heard. They could talk to birds, they said. They had seen across the great ocean, they said. I would sit for hours and listen to the stories they would tell. The other children would be dragged away by their parents, they would be ushered inside and told to forget the stories they had been told. My mother gave that up when I was nine. I would only escape through the window to see the Flyhorns again.
More than once I even tried to leave the community with them. My mother is a patient woman, but she has no tolerance for what she calls evil. Anything that defies the normality of our community is evil. She was old when I was born, old in the eyes of the community anyway, being thirty-nine. My father has always been unknown to everyone but my mother, who will take that secret to her grave. I didn’t need a father growing up, there were plenty of men in the community to help raise me. That’s the thing about communities. They raise each other. We are not a town or a village or a city, with many people and many families. The people who live in those places know not their neighbours, but we do. We live together and raise our families together. The families in our community have been there from the beginning, growing together and bonding. I will marry a son from the community when I am of age. I don’t know who he is yet, but there are only four that it could be. It is not something that I would have chosen for my life, but it is something that I must do. I would be cast out of the community if I refused, my mother would be shamed and cast out with me. I could never do that to her.
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Critique:
I was immediately drawn in. Delia has a very captivating voice and so far a very interesting story to tell. I loved learning about the Flyhorns and you set up a very interesting community for me to imagine. Your characters, so far, are interesting, and have set up several conflicts in very few paragraphs. The community you developed I thought was an interesting one, and I feel this could develop into a very interesting story. Well done.
There were a few tense inconsistencies, that I noted, but none that bothered me. I'm sorry I wasn't helpful with any technical critiques as there was nothing about these paragraphs that really bothered me. I would only caution to make sure that Delia keeps her voice, and continue that consistency throughout the story. (Not saying you won't and she'll become a Mary-Sue, but the best critical advice I can give at the moment.)
Grammar: clouds 'float' to 'floated' (tense consistency) didn't catch much else
Grade: 4
Good things: -noted above-
Buy, put down, or turn the page?: I would turn the page and maybe buy ;)
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First impression: strong start, bland continuation.
Minor problems: Naturally, first-draft, needs smoothing out. Major problems: this is an introduction, yeah? The first paragraph is great. The second and third devolve into infodump. Also - I was cast out my community - and - I will marry a son from the community when I am of age - contradiction. It makes me confused as to where Delia's telling this story from - has everything already happened or is it just about to? I am incredibly biased against this kind of exposition beginning, but I would much prefer something where like, the Flyhorn come into town and Delia runs off to meet them even though the rest of the community are all like, "What are you doing Delia? You're not a kid anymore; you don't have the time to listen to their stories". Action. Also, from what you've written here, I'm beginning to get an idea of what the plot might be, which isn't good this early in the book. Even if I'm mistaken, I think you're giving a bit too much away too soon.
Grammar: pretty good.
Good things: nice first paragraph, very coherent and readable, solid voice, and looks like a pretty interesting setting. I also like that the MC is attached to her mum, because it throws in a small conflict, and because I'm sick of reading about selfish characters.
Buy, turn, shelve: I suspect this book isn't for me, but I'd turn the page to check.
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She pulled the blanket forcibly over, trying to warm her chilled insides. Blanket…When did she get a blanket? She pushed herself up from the couch she had laid herself on. This wasn’t the stuffy old broken down inn that her and her superior had slept in for the last week. It was dark, but much nicer. A…study it seemed. It was quite empty except for a desk and a pile of books that looked like they were in need of repair. On the desk it seemed that there was one in the process of being restored. She could taste some strange chemicals in the air but couldn’t name what they were.
Groaning she stuffed her face into the pillow on the couch. She couldn’t believe her luck. She had angered the very Blood Demon of Numa, and after he was done with whatever he was going to do to the Captain she was sure that she was next. She stared at the door in worry, unsure of how long she had slept or when he would get back. She was just waiting for the demon to come back and devour her.
‘Maybe ‘e’ll fatten meh up firs’,’ she mused to herself, half-heartedly. She admitted she wouldn’t mind the idea as long as her death was quick and the meals were delicious. Heavens knew that it had been ages since she had something decent to eat. Anything worth tasting she’d have to scarf down before she was caught, and as for the rest…well the plug your nose and swallow was a routine she knew quite well.
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Damn I copy and pasted without pressing enter. Sorry. Hope the paragraphs are still distinguishable. If not I can repost.
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My first critique so take it for what it is -- simply words from a stranger. :)
Critique: (how was it, what could be changed):
I think you did a nice job communicating the fear that she felt about a confrontation with the demon but I think with a little more work you could really instill a sense of panic in me (your reader).
In the first paragraph your use of "A....study it seemed." is a bit clunky for me. I know what you're trying to do there as I do it a lot in real life when I talk. You might reconsider how you present this bit of information to the reader. Perhaps ditch the "..." and try something like: It was dark, nicer, almost like a study. Or something to that effect.
This: "She could taste some strange chemicals in the air but couldn’t name what they were." Again I know what you're trying to say and in fact I struggled with a similar line in my own writing not to long ago. I'm not sure I have a suggestion on how to fix this. Perhaps something like "The smell of the unfamiliar chemicals in the air was so strong that she could almost taste them."
Grammer: (I know, it's my evil nemesis as well) I have no real complaints. I'm not perfect myself.
Grade: (either 1-5 or letter grades) B+
Good things: (please include this); I'm a sucker for details and you gave me just the right amount in the first paragraph to have me imagining this dark, almost sinister library of sorts. You did well focusing on your character in the story and not getting me to bogged down with unnecessary information. I can quite clearly tell she's in a real pinch and that's a very good thing.
Buy, put down, or tun the page?: (if this were in a bookshop which would you do?) You'd at least get me to turn the page and read on. You've given me enough in the paragraphs above to want to know if Numa does return and what he does to her.
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Oh goodness, no both of these critiques helped immensely. I've read my novel so many times, my mind's gone numb to seeing it's flaws. I'll definitely be taking that sentence change, and looking for others sentences that could be simplified as well. Thanks so much for taking the time to critique.
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Good things:
* I like the ideas. I think there's probably a story in this book that I'd like to read. Blood demons, police of some kind (or at least militia); it sounds like my bag.
* The "wake up somewhere strange" routine is always a good one. I don't know where in your book this falls, but it's never a bad way to change up the scene.
* Your word choice is good. I feel like you could take all of the words in these three paragraphs (with a one-sentence exception) and, dropping a few extraneous ones, shuffle them around into some reasonably strong prose without having to add or change a thing.
Critique:
* Your construction is really rough. "She pushed herself up from the couch she had laid herself on" is just a tortured sentence, dragged on well past where it should logically have ended ("She pushed herself up from the couch." period, full stop, end of thought). There are a few places like there, where you simply have far more words than you need. I'm guessing the perspective is third person limited throughout, focused on your main character here? She strikes me as a woman who doesn't go on at length, so, if nothing else, tightening up the prose would make it feel more like her story, even if she's not directly telling it.
* It's your book and this is a stylistic thing that not everyone agrees with, but I would strongly caution you against having a major character who speaks in a dialect that you write out phonetically. Dialect is fine. My excerpts are chock full of the stuff, so I'm not one to poke fun. But while writing out an accent can work when you want to really call attention to how different a character sounds, having it strewn through the book (as I assume it will be if this is your main character) can quickly drive the reader insane.
Grammar (because Grammer is your mom's mom): Actually not bad. You have roughly 30% more words than you need to have, but they are mostly grammatically correct. You ought to have a comma after "Groaning" and the first paragraph should probably be two paragraphs, broken between pushing herself off of the couch and describing the room.
Grade: (either 1-5 or letter grades) 3. I'd give you a 4 but some of those sentences were just a chore to read.
Buy, put down, or tun the page?: Hmm. That's a toughie because I really do want to like it. I would probably flip around the book to see if this was a single instance of rough prose or if it was like this throughout.
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Thank you for your critique. It really did help. I have a tendency to be wordy, and I just can't catch myself. Now that I know where to look, I can rearrange this to flow better, and stop interrupting the read. I'll try to keep a lookout for these mistakes throughout the rest of my novel.
As for the dialect, I knew it would be a risk, but her status (and dialect) play big roles in the plot. Though I won't torture the reader forever with this. As she is taught, her speech gets better, til she speaks with an 'implied' accent I won't have to write out. To make that change clear though, I thought it would be best to keep her accent atrocious but readable.
Thanks again.
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First impression: how can you forcibly pull a blanket?
Minor problems: cluttered writing. It could be simplified. broken-down not broken down. She and her superior not her and her superior. Major problems: Not many. This is pretty good.
Grammar: okay but not brilliant. There are times I had to re-read sentences to understand what they really meant, but that might be because I don't know what happened before this point in the story.
Good things: Getting right inside the character's head very nicely, description is handled pretty well.
Buy, turn, shelve: turn the page.
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Oh thanks. These are things I'll think about. I didn't realize my sentence structures were so poorly constructed until three writers pointed it out. Thanks so much > w<.
I'll definitely be looking at this with a more critical eye sentence by sentence to make sure everything makes sense again.
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How do you pick three paragraphs at random in the midst of a novel? I certainly don't know. But here are three anyway:
“Is,” he said. “Is. Was. Will be. May be, could be, should be. Your words are so small and so confused. What is it to not exist anymore? That which is, is. That which is not, is not. The center is forever barred.”
I shook my head. I felt like I should be afraid but wasn’t. My memory was a blank, by and large, and I was speaking to a man I knew to be dead in a place I knew to have been destroyed. A man with no face, at that. Yet I felt, more than anything else, calm. At peace. “Who are you?”
An impression filled me, like warm water pouring into a cool pitcher. A sense of patience, and of curiosity – almost playfulness – and an impression of something vast beyond all comprehension. A many-sided box folding in on itself again and again. A flower blooming in sunlight, then withering in darkness, only to bloom again. A leaf bearing a drop of dew, poised at its tip, and another droplet falling from somewhere above to dislodge the leaf’s load before running down the veined green surface to take its predecessor’s place.
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Critique: (how was it, what could be changed) One of the things I've learned on this topic and the one where you can only post 200 words is it's often hard to figure out the big picture of the story. For me this is the case with yours. I really don't have much to offer in the way of a critque because there's not a lot going on in the few paragraphs you've shared. I don't have a sense of location or of your characters and I feel as though I've story walked in on the middle of something bigger, perhaps something even "world changing" if you know what I mean. I get a strong sense that an epiphany for your MC is on the horizon but I just don't know.
Grammer: (I know, it's my evil nemesis as well) I'm not a thesaurus or a dictionary. There are a few sentences in your writing that are a little long for me and some that are short. I think overall it works and I have a feeling that you were actually looking to acheive this effect. The shortened sentences aren't random by any means.
There's really only one sentence that trips me up when I read and I'm not sure why exactly. "My memory was a blank, by and large, and I was speaking to a man I knew to be dead in a place I knew to have been destroyed."
Grade: (either 1-5 or letter grades) I'd give this a B+ with A- potential
Good things: (please include this): Again it's so hard to just start reading somewhere in the middle. I feel a sadness coming from the first paragraph, almost a sense of despair but I'm not sure why. Perhaps I'm way off. From your MC I feel a sense of relief almost coming from them. Your third paragraph has a wonderful selection of imagery to try and elicit emotion from me (your reader). It's nicely done and not over done.
Buy, put down, or tun the page?: (if this were in a bookshop which would you do?)
I would certainly turn the page. It's hard to say if I would buy the book simply because I don't have a lot to go on at the moment. If I did like what I read, it would be a possibility.
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Thanks :)
I actually posted those three in particular because I specifically was hunting a critique of the 3rd paragraph. This chapter is purposefully out of keeping with the rest of the book and that bit of imagery is important, so I wanted to be sure that it was acceptably wrought and neither over-done nor too bland.
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(out of keeping stylistically, I meant to say. Curse you, lack of editing!)
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Well-written but not a nice passage to critique for the reasons shadowphaze gave. The imagery is okay but we need context. "another droplet falling from somewhere above" the somewhere makes this clumsy. A leaf above, or just above, would be better. Predecessor is also a bit ... odd. But I can't think of anything else that fits. Frankly, this seems pretentious to me. Too muhc imagery, too much metaphor, too much intellectualism. And y'know, nothing actually happens. This might be the most important scene of your story, but without context these three paragraphs are about as meaningful as a first year philosophy student's exam paper.
But yeah, the writing is fine.
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My turn. :) Have fun!
“H-how can I help you? I can’t even see you…” Ava’s heart thumped erratically in her chest as she turned back to face forward. In a moment of realization her gaze darted down to the ring at her feet. As the voices called out again pleading for help the ring’s light seemed to vibrate with the shattered sound of their voices.
Coooome closer….help us…. (this is in italics)
There were rules according to her Aunt for surviving childhood. You didn’t take candy from someone you didn’t know or get into any moving vehicles. You certainly didn’t make conversation with a stranger either because it would inadvertently lead to the person offering you the dreaded candy aforementioned. Children disappeared all the time her aunt had threatened, and most of the time they never came home. Aunt Tabitha’s warnings hadn’t prepared Ava for a glowing circle on the ground and it hadn’t prepared her for the pitiful voices calling out to her for help. She quickly stepped backwards and immediately felt a small pang of disappointment, even guilt.
They’re killing us….please… (this is in italics)
“Who?! Who is doing this?” Her voice cracked and her umbrella lowered exposing her to the falling rain. “What do you want? Hunh? Are you trying to scare me? It’s a nice trick. And you know it’s working…” She hated to admit that she was afraid. She hated to admit she was weak in any kind of manner because it opened her up to being judged by others.
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Good stuff:
I like it. I'm interested and nothing pulls me out of the narrative. Based on this and your 200 words excerpt I'd probably read your book. If it had a good blurb I'd probably buy it :)
Critique / Grammar (because your work is good enough that I have little to say except about grammar):
Some of your wording could be punched up a bit. It's most obvious in the second paragraph. I like the sentences you've got, especially the one about candy, but I think reordering them would make it flow more smoothly. "Her Aunt had rules for surviving childhood" seems like it would be stronger to me, or even just "According to her Aunt there were rules for surviving childhood." As it stands you need commas around the subordinate clause (that's probably the wrong name) "according to her Aunt".
I don't know your character, but just from what I get in this bit I don't think she should say "And you know it's working..." If she doesn't like to show weakness then leaving it at "It's a nice trick..." would do the job better.
Grade blah blah blah: I like it, like I said. If the plot blurb sounds neat I'd buy it.
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(Note: I mean reordering the words in the sentences, not reordering the sentences themselves)
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Thanks for the input! It's much appreciated. I'll look into the ordering of my sentences, etc. One of the reasons I picked this particular section was because I felt weak to me in how it came across. :-)
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WTB edit button...
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I haven't ever critiqued before, but here it goes.
Critique: Ok, firstly let me say that this sounds great! The story is gripping and I would definately continue reading after these paragraphs.
Grammer: I felt that a few of your sentences could have benefitted from being broken up - either using commas or separating it into two sentences. Particularly 'As the voices called out again pleading for help the ring’s light seemed to vibrate with the shattered sound of their voices.' Although, this may just be a personal preference, as the long sentences do not hinder the flow at all.
Grade: 4.5/5 (with 1 being poor)
Good things: I love your choice of words: 'aforementioned' and 'pang' are two of my favourites. It was lovely to see them used here. They fit in well, too. (By this I mean it does not sound like you plucked them from a thesaurus).
The second paragraph is just wonderful, and I feel that I have a good sense of the character after only three paragraphs. Good job!
Buy, put down, or turn the page?: I would turn the page, possibly buy after reading the synopsis.
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* Wish I could edit, apparently I can't spell definitely today.
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First impression: stiff dialogue
Crit: Minor problems: commas needed. Major problems: needs cleaning up, it's messy, and yeah, the dialogue's iffy. It does feel weak to me, but mainly because the wording isn't refined and because of the last paragraph. E.g. she turned back to face forward - she turned around? As the voices called out again pleading for help the ring’s light seemed to vibrate with the shattered sound of their voices. As the voices called out again, pleading for help, the light seemed to vibrate? What's a shattered sound, by the way? She quickly stepped backwards, and immediately felt... Even as she stepped backwards, she felt guilty - she stepped backwards, guiltily - she stepped backward and immediately felt guilty/shamed. Quickly feels unneccessary here, and I'm not too fond of immediately either. Dissapointment - why? Guilt I understand because she's leaving some pitiful voices alone, but dissapointment seems the wrong kind of emotion. Unless she's disappointed in herself in which case shame/guilt etc. are probably better choices.
"Are you trying to scare me? It’s a nice trick. And you know it’s working…" this seems incredibly unrealistic to me. Especially followed by she hated to admit she was afraid. Then the line after that about weakness.... well when I'm confronted by bodiless voices and glowing circles, I'm not gonna be thinking about people judging me. This sentence would be better in a less tension filled moment, and Ava would be better off bluffing that she's not scared and revealing in her thoughts that she's terrified.
Good things: I like the bit about her aunt's rules, but I think it would have more impact and be smoother if earlier in the story her aunt was being like, "Don't talk to strangers. Don't go to bed with your hair wet, etc." and Ava's remembering that now and thinking none of it is any use in current circumstances. If this is early in the book, then of course that's irrelevant, so I'd just clean up those lines a bit, because they're kind of clunky but nice. Structurally, in terms of passage, voice, passage, voice, good.
grammar: Okay, but you need more commas. Also, you mix a plural - Aunt's warnings hadn't..... and it hadn't... should be they.
Buy, turn, shelve: turn.
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“Yeah, and then there is this floor that I’ve never been able to go on because it’s for couples only – heterosexual couples,” he clarifies, continuing unmercifully. “Since I’m gay…you know I’m gay, right?” She nods, not looking up from her bowl. “Well, since I’m gay, I’m always with my partner so I can’t go. Khet, you know, you should come as my date so we can go on the “couples” floor.”
She ignores the strange comment, continuing to eat, wondering if this man just wants to get onto the heterosexual floor, or if he wants to get onto the heterosexual floor with her. Not getting the silent hint, he repeats his request again.
“I’m pretty sure my husband wouldn’t be okay with that,” she nicely replies, noting an invitation for her husband was not forth coming. Not that it would have been accepted, of course.
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Damn, I forgot to hit reply directly under your post...
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First impression: well written, modern, the guy seems like a dick - and since this is from teh girl's perspective that's a good thing.
Crit: minor problems: he clarifies, continuing unmercifully. Either, he clarifies. Continuing unmercifully, "dhadsg or he clarifies. "Souah. I prefer just he clarifies. Khet, you know, - is this the girl, or his boyfriend? I can't tell, but if it's the boyfriend the full stop needs to be a hyphen or something. "She ignores the strange comment, continuing to eat, wondering if this man just wants to get onto the heterosexual floor, or if he wants to get onto the heterosexual floor with her" reword smoother, I dislike contuing..., wondering.... straight after each other. Either start a new sentence with her wondering or her thoughts or put an and between. I think switching straight to her thoughts has more impact, e.g. Does this man just want to... but I don't know if you're writing thoughts directly into narrative. "The silent hint" just the hint is probably better. 'Repeats his request again' repeat and again = redundancy. She nicely replies - politely? noting an invitation... this seems a bit too quick to note. She should give him the chance to ask before scorning him like this. Major problems: none :)
good things: I think it's great. I'm getting a clear sense of both personalities through just this tiny bit of dialogue, and it's very smoothly written. To my eyes, it really just needs some tweaking of the minutiae.
grammar: good.
buy, turn, shelve: I'd turn the page - not having a summary I don't know if I'll actually like the story, but I like the writing at least.
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Critique:
It's an interesting passage. He says "you know" a lot, which is a bit annoying. But he seems like he's supposed to be an annoying character, so perhaps you did that on purpose.
Grammer: I find writing in present tense hard so admire people who do it well. Kudos!
The one sentence I wasn't particularly fond of was: "Khet, you know, you should come as my date so we can go on the “couples” floor.” For two reasons...the 'you know' thing, but also because the stuff after the second comma refers her, not Khet...which is the person you're talking about in the first part of the sentence. So maybe break it up into two:
"Khet, you remember him right? Anyway, you should come as my date, so we can go on the "couples" floor."
Grade: B+, but could easily be put up to an A
Good things: It's easy to get a sense of personality of both characters. I like that you're keeping the POV entirely from her view while having most of the dialogue from him. It's well written in that regard.
Buy, put down, or tun the page?: I'd keep reading.
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Thank you for the critique.
Not only did you pick the very sentence I have been having trouble with, I didn't realize I tend to overuse "you know." I'm going to watch for it elsewhere.
I appreciate the help. : )
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“I don’t even know who they are!” Laura screamed, and stopped the car. “Screw this….. I’m going home!” She slammed the door shut as hard as she could, leaving Lui and his bleeding shoulder behind. The street was quiet, the was air cold, and lights were out in the surrounding houses. Exhausted, she sank down next to the car, burying her face in her hands.
No thoughts invaded, just an empty black void. Laura swallowed; waited for her breathing and pulse to settle. A car door opened and closed. Then another one -- opening and closing. Feet shuffled and something heavy and warm -- a body -- slumped down to her left. After it, a rasping sound of metal against the asphalt.
Laura exhaled. Just a minute more of nothing, she thought. Let me just settle.
[Note.. hoping that this turns into italics.. if not.. That's suppose to be in italics ;)]
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haha ok.. so I had used <.i.>this withouth the dots<./.i.> but it dissapeared.. Thoughts are in italics
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I like it! Few thoughts:
-Generally, I find it more productive to see ellipses (...) with just three dots. It seems more professional.
-The semicolon was misplaced because after the ; was a fragment. If you added "she" it could work.
-You changed tenses with the open and close line. Pick opened or opening, but don't use both.
-I disliked the transition "After it". You might want to consider changing that.
Grade: C. 80/100, mostly for grammatical issues
Turn the page? Maybe, once those nitpicky errors are corrected :)
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Thank you =) Helpfull input for sure
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Haha cool. I really love your writing and the way you build suspense. Lui's shoulder is awesome, and I love the body as well as Laura's reaction to it. :) Again, though, a few things to consider. "The was air cold" should be "the air was cold." I suspect that you made this mistake because your brain corrected for what it should be. To avoid this kind of problem, read your writing out loud.
Also, I don't think that the black void invaded Laura. If it did, I think this sentence needs to be clearer, but the sentence is not so distracting that I would stop reading to correct it in my mind. I also have trouble picturing the car doors opening and closing. What exactly is going on here? If two doors opened at the same time, then that needs to be stated.
I really like the way you punctuated around the body and the fact that you described that it was warm. I'm not sure what the rasping sound of metal against the asphalt is about- does the reader? Is he supposed to know?
Finally, are you still looking for beta readers? I must admit that I'm kind of hooked on your style. :)
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I'm glad you enjoyed it! Yes I realized the "was" got misplaced...
The doors are not opening at the same time. It's first one then the other.. I may try to clarify that it's the same car that Laura just exited. And the void could less intrusive ;)
The rasping sound on the asphalth is hopefully clear to the reader who has paid atention. But I want to make the sound more specific.. without saying the rsping sound of an attaché case against the asphalth. =)
I am still looking for beta-readers. I need to warn you that my style also contains a good deal of dialogue, but judging from your refund-on-heaven line, I think you'd enyou the banter.
Send me an NaNo-mail or regular at fanhe322(@)student(.)liu(.)se (and no that's not lui.se...)
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first impression: messy and confused.
crit: minor problems: elipses = three dots. No more, no less. Laura screamed, slamming on the breaks. Laura sighed and stopped the car. Pick one. Screw this... no. Screw this! elipses lack force. She slammed the door shut as hard as she could - too wordy for something so simple. She slammed the door as hard as she could. She slammed the door (shut). That description of the street is a bit flat. Give it more pep and vary the structure or pare it down to its essence - that the street is dark and deserted. "Exhausted, she sank down next to the car, burying her face in her hands." Doesn't really work because you've got two consecutive actions to the main clause. Try: Exhausted, she sank down next to the car, and buried her face in her hands. She sank down next to the car, burying her face tiredly in her hands. Look, I'd just cut the exhausted, because bury face in hands is stronger. But also, the exhausted jars me a bit because she's just been slamming doors and screaming. Maybe if it was suddenly exhausted, it would fit better. "No thoughts invaded, just an empty black void" I don't get this. Major problems: it needs rewording and refining, as pointed, but it's pretty good. Your language tends to contrast the mood you're trying to evoke - e.g. stopped the car, while screaming? - so watch out for that when you're editing.
grammar: okay, but not great. Watch your sentence structure.
Good points: I like how you're developing the scene, with things happening in the background that aren't fully explained, like the car doors opening and closing the body slumping down to her left. good tension and suspense.
buy, turn, shelve - turn.
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Thank you! I agree with you; o elipses, exclamation mark, sceram first Then stop the car, slam the door withouth the need of mentioning shut.. etc..
I may switch the drak to something like deserted, since it's obvious since before that this is during the night so I don't think anyone will picture the street as basking in sun-light.
Suddenly overthrown by (the) exhaustion, she sank down next to the car, and burried her face in her hands. (Probably better.)
No thoughts invaded. Her mind was a black, wordless void. (May try to change this still. wordless is redundant since it's a void, but I like the thought of having two adjectives here...)
Once again, Thanks for the critique!
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Vincent was the first to voice the strangeness. They chose to sit near the edge of the dock, just to take some time to soak in the surroundings. Though they both quickly noticed that there was a different feel to the entire place, they just chalked it up to it being America. Neither had ever been there before, but they had seen pictures.
“The girls really dress different here, do they not?” Vincent asked casually, appreciating the form-fitting clothes. Renée rolled her eyes in response and he looked at her and smiled mischievously. Then his eyes went wide. “Your rash is gone!” He exclaimed. Renée patted her face. Then she touched her forehead. “I do not have a fever either…and I do not feel weak! I think I am cured of typhus!” As she loudly shouted this, two people walking off the dock looked down at her with puzzled faces. But it was New York. There were weird creatures everywhere. So they continued walking away
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Still Renée had caught their sharp look - as if typhus was some unusual disease. Looking around, it seemed like the War had not given waste to dirty surroundings in America. Maybe typhus really was uncommon here. She shrugged, accepting her personal explanation and looked down at the paintbrush in her hands. It had somehow changed back in the form of a tiny golden charm. Renée decided to keep it in her skirt pocket. Rejoining Vincent in looking around, she noticed that other girls seemed to be extremely comfortable in jeans. Renée twisted her lips in puzzlement. She was sure only factor workers wore jeans. Plus, these jeans seemed uncomfortably tight. The zippers were not even on the side, as they should be on woman’s jeans. The guys even seemed to be wearing jeans with a bizarre tighter fit. Was this the fashion in America? Renée found it exceptionally odd. Why would someone purposely take on the style of a factory worker?
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Well written and smooth. Just a few notes...
-Twisted her lips in puzzlement is awkward to me. That may be a personal issue but just telling you how I feel.
-Maybe combine "This was New York. There were weird creatures everywhere." it might run more smoothly.
Overall, I enjoyed this and had to reread it three times to find anything critique worthy. I laughed at the factory worker bit.
Grade? A 98/100
Turn the page or buy? Based on these paragraphs, I would buy this book
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**but this was New York
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Thanks for the feedback :)
Yeah, I should work on finding some sort of physical gesture to indicate puzzlement, I actually struggled with that one, lol.
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"Pursed her lips", "wrinkled her brow", "Renee's eyebrows drew together in confusion"?
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I feel like pursed her lips is somewhat too common (or that I've used that expression elsewhere in my novel and want to stay away from it!). I like the wrinkle brow, but I've used that for Vincent somewhere else :/
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First impression: good first sentence. Second impression: argh no! time travel! I hate time travel!
crit: minor problems: get your dialogue right. If they speak like people did in WWII, then it's differently, not different - adverb vs. adjective. Also, strangely is more natural in these circumstances. Also girls is a bit suspect - lasses, ladies, women. Do they not is slightly too archaic and formal. I do not... I do not... people contracted them back in the 40's. Major problems: paragraphing. Stiff writing. Too many unneccessary words, long sentences, and repetition. Too obvious with the jokes. Too obvious in general. Paragraphing - I would turn this into about eight paragraphs. For each new speaker, a new paragraph. There are also several points where there seem to be natural breaks, like after skirt pocket.
Stiff writing - because of the obviousness, unneccessary words, long sentences, and repetition. What I mean by that is "Still Renée had caught their sharp look - as if typhus was some unusual disease." We know typhus is an unusual disease, so don't say so! Also, the thing about the jeans, condense it. It's obvious and repetetive.
Stiff writing - back up the top as well "They chose to sit near the edge of the dock, just to take some time to soak in the surroundings. Though they both quickly noticed that there was a different feel to the entire place, they just chalked it up to it being America. Neither had ever been there before, but they had seen pictures." Too many words, and most of them unimportant. All I think really needs to be said here is that they're sitting on the edge of the dock, because vincent is just about to say, this place is weird. We don't need to know that they haven't been there before. We don't need to know they've seen pictures. We don't need to know it's a different feel (which is too vague anyway) because vincent's just about to say so. Also, chalking up to being in America is too obvious, again. Their thoughts and speech express that they think it's America that is weird, and don't suspect time travel.
Grammar: Work on your sentence structure. Everything else is fine.
Good points: Good humour, you've obviously done some research, and there are a few sentences I really like, like the first one, and the New york, weird creatures everywhere bit. The problem is that all this is hidden under a bulky writing style.
buy, turn shelve: it needs too much editing for me to want to read it yet. Not to mention, I hate time travel. But I think after editing it'll be pretty good.
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Thanks for pointing out the dialogue discrepancies, definitely something I'm trying to flush throughout that section of the novel.
(time travel is awesome, psh)
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Good first impression, well written.
There wasn't really anything i found wrong with that, it was really well written. I was going to say that you should speak more about their surroundings in New York especially since its just came after the war but i would suspect that would follow in the next few paragraphs.
No real grammar mistakes it flowed really well and was definitely told the way it was happening without going off in any tangents.
9/10 (I dont grade)
Definitely a page turner for me, i would keep reading
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thanks for the feedback! :)
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The next day, I woke up before anyone else in the Conley household to do my chores. I wandered out to the barn absentmindedly, without a clue of what I was supposed to be doing. All I knew is that I was allegedly feeding a horse. Did I have a clue how to feed a horse? Not even the slightest.
I creaked open the barn doors with a flick of my wrist and shuffled in. It was still dark outside, so the barn was eerily ill-lit. I was glancing around when all of a sudden the barn doors smacked shut. I jumped, immensely startled. Now I couldn’t see anything at all. I let out a small whimper. It was now occurring to me that walking into a foreign, dark barn practically in the middle of the night was not the greatest of ideas. I scuffed around, holding out my arms in a blind attempt to keep from running into anything. I failed miserably because I tripped over a stray bucket. I fell to ground and slammed my knee onto the floor of the barn with a hard thud.
All of a sudden, the barn door crashed open and a stream of unidentified light poured in. I squinted and saw an unknown figure standing there with a lantern in his hand.
“Robert?” I called out hopefully.
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I really like the first paragraph. The subtle cues about location were done extremely well, very gracefully.
That said, I was disappointed by the second paragraph because I was expecting the same quality - wanted it because I was in the barn with you - but it wasn't there. It was choppy and told me more than showed me what was going on with sort of a "now I'm doing this, now I'm doing that" feel. I'm guessing you hadn't edited it yet.
My suggestion - work on the second paragraph until it flows. Evaluate whether a wrist can really "flick" a heavy barn door open, as well as unnecessary words such as "unidentified" if all you are trying to say is a "...stream of light poured in." Throw in unidentified and suddenly I think we are dealing with a UFO, and even if we are, I don't want to be tipped off like that.
I give it a B- but I can tell you can fix it easily.
If all three paragraphs read like the first, I would BUY IT. I like your style that much.
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Thank you! You're right, I haven't edited it yet.. I'll work on it for sure!
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First impression: very american and very messy.
crit: minor problems: it's a bit juvenile, and I'm not sure if that's the voice of the MC or your writing style. major: needs editing and smoothing out. Watch your adverbs, because there's a few too many of them. immensely, eerily, miserably, allegedly, absentmindedly all seem unneccessary to me. Same with adjectives - unidentified, unknown, small, don't add anything to your story. There are points where you've rushed and not expressed things clearly - e.g. "I wandered out to the barn absentmindedly, without a clue of what I was supposed to be doing." But she knows she's got to feed the horse? I'd prefer something like, I wandered out to the barn, knowing I had to feed the horses, but not sure exactly how. The middle paragraph could be lengthened and more detail added. scuffed is the wrong word. I don't know what you mean there. in a blind attempt would be better as blindly holding out my arms in an attempt. I was glancing around - better off, I was searching for the hay/feed mix.
grammar: okay. As I said - very american. Since this is set in america, that's not a bad thing.
good things: bouncey, light kind of style, that's easy to read and entertaining.
buy, turn, shelve. I doubt I'd buy this but I think I'd borrow it from the library.