What Girls Want

This is more specifically for females, however males feel free to give your opinions too!

I've got a male character being trained to be a sexual pleasure slave. He is first being trained by a trainer, then will be specifically trained by his new owner.

I know what the new owner wants from him, but I'm still kind of unsure what the trainer would deem necessary to train him

Anyways if you were training a male to be the "ultimate female pleaser" what would that entail in your books? No wrong answers I promise!

(If you think your answer will be to risqué please feel free to PM me.)

Well...wouldn't it depend on the owner? I mean, wouldn't the trainer tailor the training to what the owner would want or outline? So what's the owner like -- maybe knowing that would help? Or at least give you a spring-board.

He must know where the clitoris is, how to give a massage, and when to avoid both. He must be good at encouraging women to talk about themselves and what is on their minds, and must be able to listen to the results without feeling compelled to act. He must have no preferences of his own, and must be able to pretend that he has strong preferences of any kind. All while being completely genuine and emotionally available. It is important to note that only one of these requirements had anything to do with genital contact.

He should learn how to pay attention to the subtlest signals girls might give. Basically to be good at oral sex he has to be hyper-aware of the girl's sounds, movements etc, to get a clue what she wants, because so many girls don't want to just come out and say 'left a bit. softer. faster. circles, not up and down' etc. And he should learn when no means yes and when yes means no.

I would think to take it to the ultimate level the training should not be just physical but also spiritual. How to be empathic, anticipate needs not just react. Some psychological training here too so he can perceive different emotional states and how to overcome fears, doubts, phobias. etc. on the fly. The physical stuff would seem like training 101 class and is handled very early. The spiritual side is where the true masters are, the ones who can also become anyone, play any part that the owner might desire.

It would also cover the bases of cooking, cleaning, massage, and concierge services. Not all pleasure requires communication in any way. Just being providing what is needed, when it's needed, without the need to ask can do it for alot of people.

He should be the KING of foreplay. Footrubs, neck kisses, and paying attention to da boobies all fall under this umbrella in my mind.

he realise there are certian parts of woman that in fact attanched to the body (brests) and that no matter how hard he pulls THEY WILL NOT COME OFF....okay thats just a message for all guys.

He'd have to be able to put them at ease in a way where they're able to explore themselves, and tell him what they really want, and are happy doing so. If a girl doesn't know how to get her way to orgasm, you probably won't be able to either.

Everyone above is right, but some of you are acting like genital sex isn't enjoyable for ladies or something. He should definitely be decent at that, and perhaps other than the things about it mentioned above, be good at holding off from coming too soon. And I don't mean just erectile-dysfunction ways, I mean if she clearly isn't ready for him to stop, well...

Question for female m/m readers: My MMC is in love with a man, but they're separated by factors they can't control. MMC is the live-in sex toy of a noblewoman. Quite early on in the book, MMC is well uhhh pleasuring himself and the noblewoman is watching, unknown to him. They have a moment, and then there's another sex scene with him fantasizing that he's being ravished by his beloved MMC2 as he takes the noblewoman on his desk.

All in the first five pages. Too much too soon? The characters were quite insistent on getting into the swing of things early, and to all appearances often. I don't know about this...seems a little too porn-y to me, but attempts to rattle them back into their cages have produced no character obedience, rather the opposite. They go mute.

I ask this because I suspect I've now been railroaded into erotic-fiction-land and away from my intended historical fiction destination. Opinions welcomed.

Loving these ideas so far

Thanks guys

Mudge If you want to focus on the HF aspect, you could simply not write the sex scenes going forward; what you wrote in the 1st five pages makes it clear to the reader what the sex is like, and you need not one- up the description in each chapter

He should know a billion sex positions and how to touch the clitoris. Like someone else mentioned, breasts are attached and nipples can be very sensitive - he should know to be careful when seeing what she likes done to them. Must be willing to experiment and explore.

I think there are two keys to men being good in bed- high-level foreplay and stamina in his oral stimulation. He also needs to become well timed to the needs of the female body and read the signals for when each step is desired.

SOmething that I don't know if people think of, is that women a very much aroused by small things. For me personally, displays of strength are very arousing. As are fist fights. But i think it is also important to just know the female body inside and out, and that you can use your fingers and mouth at the same time.

I read something about D/s relationships in BDSM (that may not apply here in your world, since you've said this is not BDSM) that a slave *must* be able to step up and take the dominant role for a set period, since the Dominant may want to have some sub time themselves.

Speaking as someone who has had such D/s relationships, someone seemed to botch up a statement about the slave's preferences, saying he shouldn't have any, etc. I think they meant he should not voice them, since what he wants doesn't matter...

And this sentiment I agree with, to a point. A slave *will* have preferences in my experience--to give oral sex instead of being taken vaginally. The thing is that the slave must still present her vagina to be taken.

Nothing frustrates me more as a Dominant than asking my slave what she wants and being told "whatever you want, Master". How am I supposed to reward her for her exemplary behaviour if I'm not told what she wants? Sure, I can guess and such, but guessing is not as effective as being told the things she wants.

I think it would be extremely hard to train a man to be able to please any woman perfectly. Because each woman likes different things. I know that there are things I love that other women just can't stand (and vice versa), and so it can be hard for a guy to know what is or in not ok to do unless she outright says "this is what I want." I think that, realistically, the owner couldn't just lay back and be pleasured perfectly right away. She would have to tell him when he does something she doesn't like, if he's not doing enough of something, etc. and eventually he will learn what she really likes. Something that he should be trained to do is follow her instructions. If she tells him "I don't like that," then he must remember not to do it again.

I think you need to think about how deep his attachment with his owner would be expected to go by his society. If a slave is just a slave, used for pleasure and nothing else, then yes, you can concentrate on the shallow things like physical pleasure, massages and pedicures and so on, and how to anticipate what will be needed by his mistress.

But if his slavery is expected to also be more intimate, he may need to know how to give emotional support, trust, understanding and caring without being judgemental.

And is his mistress expected to live up to some basic standard of care for her slave? Will society shun her if he shows signs of neglect? Or will he have to be trained in de-escalation techniques because she can do whatever she pleases to him if she gets angry enough?

I thank everyone for their help

I came up with the basic training including:
- sexual pleasure through oral stimulation
- sexual pleasure through finger stimulation
- sexual pleasure through penetration
- ability to "rub down" (massage)
- ability to listen with out interruption
- ability to hold a conversation of varying topics
- knowledge of how to start to learn to read women - mentally, emotionally and physically
- knowledge of when sexual pleasure is needed / wanted
- knowledge when non sexual service is needed.