Harry Potter!

MsSiro — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 03:29:39 -0600

I figured I'd start a thread for one of the best book series ever! So.. any fans around? Which is your favourite book/movie? Who are your favourite characters? Snape: Yay or Boo?

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Ophiucha — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 04:06:53 -0600

Favourite book is probably Sorcerer's Stone. Favourite movie is probably Half-Blood Prince, closely followed by Deathly Hallows, pt. 1 and Chamber of Secrets. Favourite characters... Fenrir Greyback (and he was barely in the movies, D:), Barty Crouch Jr. (hello doctor, *fans self*), Lucius Malfoy, and Mr. Ollivander. That last one is the only one I legitimately love, Fenrir I like because I love werewolves, and I love Barty and Lucius near entirely because of David Tennant and Jason Isaacs' portrayals of them. And Snape is fine. I don't have strong feelings for him either way, but I thought his flashbacks in the movie were done really well, so I'm probably a bit more 'yay' than I was when the book series ended.

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WiresInABox — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 05:17:26 -0600

I'm a big fan! I'm rereading the books again as we speak, it's they only books I can read all over again without getting bored. And I'm happy that I kind of grew up with the books, it hadn't been the same thing if I had read all of them at one time. All the waiting and longing between the books was a big part of the experience, all the theory discussions and such! How I miss that! My favorite book is Prisoner of Azkaban, not so much because it has the best content but it gave me the best reading experience of my life. I have never experinced that awesome feeling again, that I had when I just had read it for the first time. When it comes to the movies it's difficult... but I go with Deathly Hallows Part 1, it's very slow but I really love the feelings they have captured, it's on the spot! My favorite character is Luna Lovegood, because she is just so sweet and weird. She is actual one of my role-models in life! Snape is a great character and I never lost my doubt for him, even when it seemed the darkest. But I don't like him as a person.

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ZNZ — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 05:26:22 -0600

Favourite Book: Three, entirely because of Remus. Favourite Movie: Seven point five. Favourite Characters: Luna, Remus, and Hermione Snape: Yay!

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J.E.Blackworth — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 05:34:16 -0600

Read the first book when I was like, what, eight or nine. Loved it. I think I've read the first four books at least five times each, the last three two or three times. I love them, my favourite book will always be Chamber of Secrets because it's just so intense, and it holds emotional value. AND I love Gilderoy Lockhart and Lucius Malfoy. Favourite movie must be the same, because of same reasons. Other favourite characters of mine include Luna Lovegood and Harry himself. Snape is a definite yay, as well.

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golfgal08 — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 07:01:24 -0600

I just picked up Book 1 again; I haven't read any of them in ages. My favorite book is Prisoner of Azkaban. I'm not entirely sure why, and maybe going through and re-reading the entire series from start to finish as an adult would change my opinion on that, but.... *shrug* My favorite movie is Deathly Hallows Part 1. I think they did a really good job of sticking to the plot of the book, for the most part, and it was just... well, it was that movie where they transitioned from being kids into being adults. I'm not a shipper, but I thought the scene with Harry and Hermione dancing in the tent was terribly cute, in the "you're my best friend, please cheer up" sense. I could so easily picture Sirius having done something like that with Lily, once upon a time. My favorite character is... well, I'm not sure. In a lot of ways, I like the concepts of certain characters more than the actual characters themselves. I suppose that's a side effect of spending years and years in the Harry Potter fandom.

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patriciarakel — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 07:26:20 -0600

Harry Potter is my favourite series ever. It's reallt a toss up for favourite book between Prisoner of Azkaban, Order of the Phoenix, and Deathly Hallows. (And, well, Philosopher's Stone, which started the whole thing off.) All three have amazing story lines, adventure, betrayal, danger, and pretty much everything you would want from a book. I love Ginny (I cosplay her a lot, she's so awesome), Luna and Tonks (those two girls rock!). The twins, of course, will always hold a place in my heart. As for Snape, my aunt and I had the theory that the only reason Dumbledore trusted Snape after he came back to the good side was because he loved Lily. We had that theory since, I believe, book 5. So, we called it. It was actually quite spectacular, because my uncle told us we were mad, that it would never happen. Cut to a couple years later with him throwing the book across the room... Anyways, I do like Snape, but I think the way he treated his students was horrible. Yes, Snape, I understand all you see when you look at Harry is James and his abborent ways. Yes, I understand that when you see Hermione, you think about how Lily was the top of her class, always having the answer. Yes, I udnerstand that you see James' friends in Ron. Yes, I understand that when you look at Neville, you think about the possibility of what would have happened if Voldemort had chosen to go after him instead of Harry. I get it, but that still doesn't give you the right to be a total dick to the students. So, yes, I like Snape, but I don't like how he acted throughout most of the series, and I don't think that the fact that he turned out to be good in the end should make everyone forget how horrible he was through most of the series.

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mattskywalker — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 07:42:34 -0600

I love Harry Potter! My absolute favorite! Book: Deathly Hallows Movie: Probably Order of the Phoenix Snape: Yay! Characters: Harry, Ron, Hermione, Luna, Dumbledore, the list goes on...

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Lady_Warrior — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 08:03:19 -0600

BIG YAY FOR SNAPE. I love that character. Book: Deathly Hallows. Movie: The first two, and the last one, DH2. AMAYZING. Snape: See above. Characters: Harry, Ron, Hermione, SNAPE (Snape, Severus Snape), Luna, Neville...

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starlitnight — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 08:08:56 -0600

Woohoo, Harry Potter! I read the books about seven times in the space of four months. I practically have them memorized... Book: Deathly Hallows Movie: I didn't like them that much... Snape: ^_^ Characters: Harry, Neville, Ginny, Sirius, Remus...

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Enrico1991 — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 08:42:47 -0600

Book: Chambers of Secret Movie: Goblet of Fire Snape: Yay Characters: Dumbledore

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Aquadestiny — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 09:11:49 -0600

I'm an adult Harry Potter fan that grew up with the series {I was 11 when I got Philosopher's Stone for Christmas the year it was published} and still adore re-reading the books even today. My favourite book in the series is still Prisoner of Azkaban simply because the plot twists are so beautifully written and the last scenes in the book hold so much emotion for Harry and Sirius because Harry believes that he's going to get a chance to escape life with the Dursleys forever. It's also the book that introduces Lupin. Speaking of whom; Lupin is my favourite character in the series because he's the paternal figure that's been missing in Harry's life. He's the one to offer support, both educationally and emotionally and is the only adult who truly treats Harry as the person that he is {Sirius saw too much of James in Harry and Molly is a touch too overprotective}. I was disappointed that we never got to see his death in Deathly Hallows, but maybe that's not such a bad thing, after all there was a war going on and pointless deaths are par for the course. Plus Harry simply wasn't present when it happened. I'm not as attached to the movies as the books, but I feel Deathly Hallows part 2 was a very fitting end to the franchise. It packed such a wallop emotionally that I sat and cried during the reveal of Snape's memories and when Harry willingly sacrificed his life to protect everyone else. Plus all the scenes just clicked along at a lovely pace and I never once felt that it skipped out on anything, nor did I think it dragged at any point. The other movies had massive problems with pacing and I think that will become even more evident when the DVD/Bluray comes out and people start marathoning the movies.

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alias093001 — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:05:54 -0600

It was between Christmas and my eleventh birthday when I found my love for Harry Potter. It's been almost twelve years since then and I still haven't lost my love of the series. Favorite Book: Prisoner of Azkaban Favorite Movie: Chamber of Secrets or Prisoner of Azkaban Favorite Characters: Harry, Hermione, Fred and George, Snape: Yay!

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Maira Blue — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:16:39 -0600

I love HP so much! I saw Sorcerer's Stone when it came out (I was about eight) and read the books afterward. I don't think I'd ever have gotten into reading and writing without them. Book: Order of the Phoenix or Deathly Hallows, it's a tie. Movie: Chamber of Secrets or DH Part 1. Snape: Yay! One of my favorite characters of all time. Characters: Snape, Hermione, Sirius, Luna, Harry.

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Emgem2000 — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 11:14:58 -0600

I don't remember a time before Harry Potter! My favourite book used to be Prisoner of Azkaban, but I think I over-read it slightly (if that's possible) and so now it's between Half Blood Prince and Deathly Hallows. That said, I need elements of all of them. Yeah. Need. As for movie, I'd say the last one (When I call it HP8 none of my friends seem to understand me.) I have cried all three times I saw it at the Resurrection Stone scene. Hermione will always, I think, be my all time favourite character out of every fandom. I guess she's probably my role model. But I also love Luna, just... cause. Heh. My friend started calling me Luna because I asked him if he believed in Nargles... Favourite Wizard Rock song: I Believe in Nargles, The Whomping Willows. Just sayin'... Snape... Snape. When I re-listened to POA over the summer, I found myself hating him. He was horrible.But it took the name 'Sev' to make stop me and make me wonder how I could. So... Both? Last thing: I'm told that our family first got really into Harry Potter one Boxing Day. On BBC Radio 4, they'd given the whole day over to Stephen Fry reading the first book. I was just wondering, does anyone know when this was? I'm quite curious...

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MsSiro — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 12:15:44 -0600

Big wave to all fellow fans! Favourite book: Order of the Phoenix. I know lots of people dislike Harry in that book, but that's actually when I sympathised with him the most. There was just too much for him to bear, and those who would have understood and helped were not around. Then DH, then PoA. Favourite character(s): Bellatrix, Hermione and Minerva. Oh and Tom Riddle/Voldemort Favourite film: Deathly Hallows, both parts. In my opinion, they were the only films that managed to capture the real soul of the books, the reason why I love this series more than any other novel. Snape: I'll be the first Boo-er :/. I appreciate what Snape had done to bring down Voldemort and all, but like [b]patriciarakel[/b], I don't think he had any reason to be nasty to Neville, Harry and Hermione.

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lost in reverie — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 13:15:13 -0600

I've loved the Harry Potter series since it first came out! I got the first book in paperback, and I've been hooked ever since I was nine years old! I'm 22 now, by the way. ;) Favorite Book: Prisoner of Azkaban Favorite Movie: Deathly Hallows Part 2 Favorite Characters: Hermione, Sirius, Remus, Snape, Dumbledore. :D Snape: YAY! He's a hero. :D

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qwertz — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 14:24:53 -0600

Book: Goblet of Fire. Maybe. Movie: DH2. Definitely. Character: Luna Lovegood. Especially as prtrayed by Evanna Lynch. Snape: He is a good man. I wouldn't usually say "YAY!" though.

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koen3456 — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 14:31:48 -0600

Favourite book: used to be order of the Phoenix but now it's the deathly Hallows Favourite movie: HP 7 part 2 or HP 8 or whatever you want to call it I especially liked Mcgonagall in that movie Favourite characters: Luna, Dumbledore, Hermione, Neville, Harry oh and Mcgonagall! Snape: He's ok still not the nicest person but yay'll do

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Shadd — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 14:38:53 -0600

I'm in love with the Harry Potter books since... a while. My favorite book is HP and the Chamber of Secrets because... a big snake, Tom Riddle and Lucius Malfoy. What else? Favorite movie: The Goblet of Fire. Barty Jr played by Daniel Tennant... (Tenth ♥ I love you Doctor!), but DH2 was amazing (except the epilogue, WTF?! from a cinematography student's point of view, it was BAD, trust me) Favorite character: the Sorting Hat. Oh yeaaaaaaah. Regulus Black too. I'm so in love with the HPverse that I'm writing fanfictions on!

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appingo — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 14:40:03 -0600

Oh, a Harry Potter thread...I will have no time to write now, it seems. :l Favorite book: Order of the Phoenix. Yes, it's long, yes, there's a lot piled in there that could've been taken out, but it's one of the only books in the series where you consistently remember Harry's actually going to school. For me, anyways. Plus, Umbridge is an excellent antagonist, and I have a thing for youth rebellions (Dumbledore's Army!). Favorite movie: Deathly Hallows, Part 2. Greatly done on a bunch of different counts. Favorite characters: Ron, Neville and Dumbledore. Ron because he's so human in many different ways--he's the most realistic out of the trio, and many characters in the series. He screws up a fair bit, but I can't help but love him. Neville because his transformation is absolutely amazing in the series, from a shy, clumsy boy to one of the true heroes of the series. I really wish we knew what really went on during what should've been the trio's seventh year from his perspective. Dumbledore I wasn't always extremely fond of, but when I re-read the series backwards, I grew to love his character. He's extremely complicated and fascinating as a mentor character. Snape: Eh. I sympathize with him, and without him we wouldn't have the series, but I don't see him as an absolute 'hero'. His reason to protect Lily and his reason to keep Harry alive was ultimately selfish and wasn't for the good of the wizarding world.

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lovely_sparkle — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:14:15 -0600

Favorite book: I'm currently rereading them (I'm on book 5) but so far my favorite upon rereading has been Prisoner of Azkaban. I also like the first one for the nostalgia of it, but not if I'm judging by quality. Favorite movie: Azkaban, Deathly Hallows (both) Favorite characters: Lupin, Sirius, Hermione, Snape, Luna, Trelawney for the Lolz, Fred. Snape: Major YAY. One of the most interesting/complex characters, in my opinion.

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Genkai — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:47:52 -0600

Fave Book: The first one.

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Genkai — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:48:42 -0600

Fave Book: The first one.

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Genkai — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:49:16 -0600

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Genkai — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:58:17 -0600

Fave Book: The first one.

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Foxstar2000 — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 17:39:58 -0600

YAY HARRY POTTER Favorite Book: POA. I don't know why. Favorite Movie: POA. So much Harmony, it made me swoon. xD Snape: Eh. He was probably one of if not the most indepth character in the series. That being said, he can't let go of this grudge and that sets me off. Favorite Characters: WHY HASN'T ANYONE SAID DRACO That being said, Hermione, Draco, Harry, Luna. In that order.

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MalcolmCooms — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:41:52 -0600

Favorite book: Order of the Phoenix. I loved it. Has two of the best scenes in the whole series (Dumbledore's escape ("Ah, I thought we'd hit that little snag..." and the Weasley Twins' escape ("Give her Hell from us, Peeves"), and I just loved the really dark tone of it and the awesomeness of the underground rebellion against Umbridge. Favorite Movie: Deathly Hallows, Part 1. I thought Part 2 had a number of problems (I thought they could have done much more with the battle scens mostly), but even so the small flaws were greatly outweighed by the awesome bits (Fiendfyre scene was INCREDIBLE). I think I liked Part 1 more because it was almost exactly how I imagined it in the book (except for that AWFUL "dance in the tent" scene with Hermione-what WAS that?) but besides that one scene I thought it was pretty much perfectly done. Favorite Characters: HAGRID (he is just AWESOME), Luna, and badass book 7 Neville. The trio is great (of the three I especially like Harry), but Ron really has a LOT of flaws (ultimately outweighed by his strong points, but he could be quite unlikeable at times), and I think Hermione turned into a bit of a Mary Sue by book 7. She was just NEVER wrong-basically if Harry and Ron had followed Hermione's advice every time they would have done great. She is also the one who comes up with both the long term plans to protect them AND the ingenious short-term ideas that gets them out of tight jams (like transfiguring Harry's face after he breaks the tabboo). Not only that, she's the one who uses basically every complex spell that they need. She should have been leader. I think she avoids Mary-Suedom because Rowling did a great job of fleshing out her character so that we do know her flaws and her motivations, but really in Book 7 she's basically perfect in every way. Actually, from book 2 on she's pretty much perfect. While I like Hermione and while her personality is developed well, this does tend to annoy me. Snape: Awesome character, one of the best ever, terrible guy. His love was not a self-sacrificing type of love but a selfish love; to save Lily he would have let Harry and James die, and he only sacrifices himself later on because he felt he owed it to Lily. It's all about HIS relationship with Lily, and his regrets about it. He is a very selfish man, and his love is not pure like Harry's love for others but greedy and self-serving. But the fact that his character is such a difficult one to analyze just makes him AWESOME.

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Genkai — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:20:02 -0600

My post wasn't working. Why??? Anyway I love Harry/Hermione. I love Mad Eye and Hagrid and Trawleny and Snape. I love Hermione and Harry. I love Ron till book four. I kind like Dudley cause he's interesting. I love the first book. I loved the seventh movie part one the most. I have a love/hate thing for Lupin, Luna, Sirius and Bellatrix. Any Harmony fans, message me and we'll gush! I'm even hoping to write a HP fanfic for NaNo. Not sure yet.

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MalcolmCooms — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:36:20 -0600

I predicted pretty much every major relationship in the series except for Lupin/Tonks (that one htre me for a loop). I never saw "Harmony" at all. Heck, I knew from book ONE it was going to be Ron and Hermione. And I think I predicted Harry/Ginny since book two, when we REALLY met Ginny as a character, and Snape/Lily was a theory of mine since book five.

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MalcolmCooms — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:37:47 -0600

htre should be "threw"

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Genkai — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 21:03:38 -0600

I really don't wanna get into Ship/Character wars here....

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hookedononyx — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 21:34:52 -0600

Yes, yes, I like Harry Potter. Honestly, it's hard to find people in my age group (early 20s, for anyone who's asking) who didn't grow up with Harry. I don't really have a favorite character. Harry's process of mourning over and learning about his parents' lives mirrored how I dealt with my own deceased dad, but he gets moody as hell throughout the latter half of the series, and eventually settles down into Messiah Mode by Deathly Hallows. Ron is a bit of an idiot, but I sympathized with his jealousy issues. Hermione has a nice blend of bookishness and bravery that made me feel more comfortable with my bookworm status as an elementary schooler. I think all of the books have their strengths and weaknesses. The Mirror of Erised scene in Philosopher's Stone...Harry's mixed feelings about hearing his parents' last moments in Prisoner of Azkaban...his dealing with a suddenly less than perfect image of his parents in Order of the Phoenix...honestly, they all had a lot to offer. Snape was a raging dick, but toward the end of his life I think he grew a bit as a person. Still a slimy bastard who emotionally abused quite a few of his students, though. It's pretty hard to forgive actions like that. His portrayal in A Very Potter Musical/Sequel definitely made me forgive him a bit, though. "That's absurrrrrrrd..."

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MysteriousFlower — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 02:17:17 -0600

POTTER!!! I knew there'd be a safe haven around here somewhere!!!! Favourite book: Order of the Phoenix . I don't know why this one is just better to me than all the others. Favourite movie: Order of the Phoenix and Deathly Hallows 1. --> OotP; eventhough there was so much cut from the movies, it feels like the one with the most natural flow and hardly any of it feels forced or fake. Whereas, let; say, GoF, I found the acting dreadful and it all felt incomplete. As for DH1, it lived up to the anticipation of travelling and though the Malfoy Manor scene was not as dramatic was I would have liked, they did well with sticking to the book (better than with like HBP) Favourite character: Narcissa Malfoy, Bellatrix Lestrange and Hermione Granger. I enjoy the complexity of these three characters.

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Rebka — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 02:43:30 -0600

My favorite book is probably Deathly Hallows, but I've only read the series once so far so I'm not actually sure. It could be Goblet of Fire. That was the one I read the fastest. My favorite movie is Goblet of Fire...mainly because of David Tennant. Yes, I went there. My favorite characters changed as I read the series. First it was Ron, because I couldn't get over his adorableness, and during GoF it was Cedric Diggory. Then I was mourning Cedric's death through most of OotP, and at some point I started loving Harry. Now, after I've read all the books and seen all the movies, I've fallen in love with the Phelps twins and Fred and George are my favorite. Also, at some point, Draco, but I think that was mostly when I was watching the movies. Tom Felton is just...a;skdjfa;skdlf.

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Neechole — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 04:10:52 -0600

Which is your favourite book? Goblet of Fire. I hated it at first, but now I love the adventure and the rise of You Know Who, the first real loss of innocence. Movie? Deathly Hallows Part 1 Who are your favourite characters? Percy Weasley, Snape, Tonks, Dolohov and Voldemort. Have any of you done the Facebook Role Plays like Magic is Might or Horcruxes or Hallows?

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premiumcider — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 06:15:47 -0600

Book: Phoenix Movie: None of them. Faves: Le marauders Snape: Overhyped. I think Regulus is the true hero so he gets my yay! Yay!

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Mariana OConnor — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 08:16:01 -0600

Hi! Harry Potter long time fan here. More the books than the films, but I do enjoy both. Favourite book: Prisoner of Azkaban. Favourite film: Don't know. I haven't watched them all recently enough. Favourite characters: James Potter, Sirius Black and Remus Lupin... Marauders all the way! Snape: I like his character, because I like morally ambiguous, but I don't believe that he's a good person and I certainly don't like him more than any other characters. His main storyline revolves around him being a selfish, possessive git who never got over himself. Sure he was bullied at school, and he had a horrible time in the second war. But I don't get why people think he was such a hero. Like premiumcider I'd have to say that Regulus was more of a hero than him. Snape turned to good because evil didn't get him what he wanted. He felt guilty. Regulus decided on his own to try and take down Voldemort against all his friends and family, with no back up and with no hope of escaping. He died being thought of as a traitor by both sides.

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Mariana OConnor — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 08:16:20 -0600

Another Regulus fan! *waves* Thank you ^_^

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QuincyMorris — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 08:24:03 -0600

Ah, Harry Potter. My inspiration. Anyway, yeah. My favorite character is Umbridge. She is such a good role model. I despise characters such as Hermione, Luna Lovegood, Neville, Draco Malfoy, and Remus Lupin. ... Nah, I'm just messing with you. I hate how everyone worships Luna, though. There is a reason that girl has no friends: She's reall messed up. I love the actress who plays her, though. She's... beautiful...

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Paris and the Blue Jewel — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 11:08:58 -0600

Favorite book: Probably Half-Blood Prince, but it's hard to choose, isn't it? Favorite movie: Deathly Hallows, Part 2. GUH. Snape: Absolutely YAY. This has nothing to do with what he's like as a person - I think I'd be terrified of him if I met him in real life (not that I don't daydream about it anyway). It's more that he's just so complex and utterly real and HUMAN. I mean, okay, he held a grudge for an obscenely long time, but the girl who was his only friend and love married the guy who made his life hell in school. Maybe his reasons aren't appropriate, but you can at least see the mindset. Add to that the fact that he was abused as a child, bullied in school, and mostly ignored by the adults in his life, and you can see why he's not exactly Mr. Wonderful. He's a gorgeous (metaphorically speaking) example of a really well-constructed character with an agenda. Favorite characters: Snape (who according to my mother has been my favorite character since Book 1, which surprised me, since his motivations didn't start to become clear until Book 3) and anyone with the surname or maiden name of Black. I love the play between darkness/light or good/evil, so characters like Sirius (a guy trying desperately to escape his evil family) or Regulus (who was evil only to please his parents, and ultimately sacrificed himself to finally do something right) or Narcissa (who clearly supports the pureblood ideology, but has strong family values that override everything else) are really intriguing to me. (This also applies to dear Severus.) And then you get Bellatrix, who's just fascinating because she's so completely INSANE and evil. xD I'm going as Bellatrix for Halloween.

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MalcolmCooms — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 11:15:30 -0600

I think all the comments about Regulus are spot on.

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Odile — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 11:36:09 -0600

I love Harry Potter! I have read those books so many times that I have stopped counting. I prefer the books over the movies but I also like the movies. My favorite books are Deathly Hallows and Order of the Phoenix. My favorite characters are Hermione and Harry. Snape... I used to hate him but the last book changed my mind.

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JupitersGrin — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 12:34:38 -0600

Favorite Book: Goblet of Fire, 'cause "Remember Cedric Diggory" makes me cry like a giant baby. Favorite Film: 7.5. "You want us to blow it up? Boom?" "BOOM!" Favorite Characters: Luna and Remus, but never together. Snape: ... Obviously. And yes, I'm writing Potterfic this year. Just checking in with the thread.

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JupitersGrin — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 12:35:26 -0600

Ugh. I actually forgot my favorite character under favorite characters: Our Hero, Neville Longbottom.

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Lalatin — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 13:21:50 -0600

Started reading the series when I was 7 going on 8, right after the book had come out (1997/98). I found it by accident and fell in love with it, tried to get everyone I knew to read it but no one wanted to until we were in middle school. J.K.Rowling is the WHOLE REASON I write and read now.

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Lalatin — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 13:23:20 -0600

apparently it didnt want to post the second half of my post..... Favorite book: Prisoner of Azkaban Movie: POA, Half-blood Prince and Deathly Hallows Characters: Sirius Black, Severus Snape, Remus J. Luipin, Harry Potter, Dumbledore and Draco Malfoy. Snape: Yay!

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Aneith — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:44:22 -0600

Favorite Book: Half Blood Prince Movie: Half Blood Prince (I liked how they portrayed Draco falling apart. I was afraid they would mess that up like a lot of other things...) Characters: Severus Snape, Neville Longbottom, Luna Lovegood Snape: Yay, of course. He has been my favourite character for years now. Another question: Does it bother anyone else that some of the people they got to play the adults are decades older than the characters? Alan Rickman is a good actor, but Snape is supposed to be in his thirties. Harry's parents died when they were in their early twenties. Yet, in the movies, whenever they're shown, they look a lot older. Does this bother anyone else? Sorry, I'm not a fan of the movies. They're ok, but they take so much out.

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DragonShade — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:54:43 -0600

Favorite Book: Deathly Hallows or Goblet of fire. I wanted to brutally kill Chamber and Order after my 14th time reading them. Movie: Half Blood Prince Characters: Snape, The entire Malfoy family, Luna Lovegood, Aberforth Snape: Yay!!! My answer to your 'other question': It does at times, but I think they can kinda pull it off. The movies have TONS of flaws. (After insisting on going to midnight releases I'm usually cursing the director each and every time.) but those are one of their lesser ones.

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snapefan4life — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 15:02:29 -0600

Total Potterhead here. I dressed up as a Hogwarts student for the last movie and as I went in, I saw Harry and some other Gryffindors run past me. Harry said, "Why isn't your wand out?? These are dark times!" I yanked my wand out of my clutch to show him but...he was GONE. I'm pretty sure he disapparated. True story. (At least the part before disapparation) I am so passionate about this series - they have helped me so much in my personal life. I've discussed these books with Potterlovers and Potterhaters, and it's a great series to go back and read and see new stuff in. For instance, I was listening to Half Blood Prince (Stephen Fry narrating the original British editions), and I heard Slughorn say that Lily was great at potions...which led me to wonder just how much she learned from The Half-Blood Prince (was she really that great at potions? Is that why they shared a common bond? Did Snape help her out, if she wasn't that great? Did he learn from her [I find this one rather unlikely, but I did consider it for a few seconds]? Too many questions to consider!) Favorite Book: The Half-Blood Prince (for obvious reasons) Favorite Movie: Deathly Hallows Pt. I (followed by Pt. II and Prisoner of Azkaban) Favorite Character(s): SNAPE. Also: Luna, Neville, Tonks, Remus, and the Weasley family. (I also adore Jason Isaacs, so in the movies I really love seeing Lucius Malfoy!) Snape: YAY. Always.

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Aneith — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 15:58:53 -0600

True. It's just something that bugs me in movies in general. That and, when I told one of my friends that my favourite character was Snape, she said people only like him because of Alan Rickman. Cue rant for why Snape is awesome. (I like Alan Rickman. I just like the Snape in the books better.)

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Paris and the Blue Jewel — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 20:12:35 -0600

To answer the question about actors' ages, I've never been bothered by Lily and James, but maybe that's just because they're not shown particularly frequently. Sirius also looks a good deal older, but he can sort of get away with it because he's been in prison for twelve years. Snape... yeah, he doesn't have that excuse. xD I love Alan Rickman but movie!Snape is definitely not thirty-something. Concerning the movies vs. books deal, I basically just consider the two to be separate entities. For example, Alan Rickman plays a wonderful Snape, but it's not the SAME Snape as in the books. The age differences can also be attributed to this, and I find it helps me feel a bit less annoyed at the blatant changes they had to make. (In my case I get more annoyed by the changes to make things more action-y, like that weird fog-form the Order members and Death Eaters use and the way they present Quidditch, particularly the Snitch, but this also applies to things like leaving Bill out until the seventh movie and ditching a number of subplots.)

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aftersh0cks — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 20:47:29 -0600

Harry Potter is my life.

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Aneith — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 21:01:20 -0600

Yeah the fog thing bothered me too. In the books, the only people who could fly without brooms, a motorcycle, or a carpet were Voldemort and Snape. (Another reason why Snape is awesome.)

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Aneith — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 21:04:08 -0600

Ditching a heck of a lot of information that was in the books bugged me the most though I think. That and cutting the subplots. Sorry for double posting. Forgot to put this in the last one.

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Launisch — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 21:11:14 -0600

Favorite Book: Prisoner of Azkaban. The scene where Sirius shows up still makes me screech with excitement. Favorite Film: Deathly Hallows part 2. Definitely. Favorite Characters: SEAMUS. Like, by a lot. Snape: Oh whoops, unpopular opinion time - I am giving Snape a resounding nope! I like him as a character, but I'm certainly not cheering him on. Because unrequited love is no excuse for being mean to little kids for years and years. I mean. Seriously. Come on. I love Harry Potter. I love that other people love Harry Potter. I love that millions of people are convinced they love Harry Potter more than anyone else on the planet, and that no one else can TRULY understand (this is me, 100%). I dressed up as the snitch at the premiere. I had a gold dress and gold shoes, elaborate homemade wings, a resurrection stone, and "I open at the close" painted across my forehead. It was fun. I cried myself to pieces.

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MalcolmCooms — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 22:01:34 -0600

I agree with you on Snape! I said yep, but because he's an awesome character. As a person I find him pretty repulsive, to be honest. As a side note, I do think "The Prince's Tale" was possibly the best written chapter in the series. How you know it was a great chapter: About half, or maybe more, of the fanbase had predicted a twist almost exactly like what occurred in the chapter (that Snape loved Lily and that due to this love his evil actions were really a ruse and he was in fact on Dumbledore's side), and yet after reading it almost nobody mentioned that. Instead all the talk was about what an incredible, heart-wrenching chapter it was. It's powerful writing when you can guess the gist of what's going to be written before you actually read it and it still has the power to make deep emotions well up inside of you. In one chapter, Rowling showed us how a romance is SUPPOSED to be done. From one writer to another-Bravo.

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Launisch — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 22:06:15 -0600

I completely agree with you - I think Snape is horrid, and I'm sometimes a bit befuddled when people say they LOVE him, but I think he's a stellar character. I wouldn't want him as a dinner guest, but I love to read about him. And The Prince's Tale may have been my favorite chapter in the entire series.

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JupitersGrin — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 23:23:57 -0600

It does sort of bother me, but with all that Snape's been through (both sides of a war right out of school, 11 years in a dank potions lab dealing with all manner of explosive students and things, losing Lily 5th year, really losing Lily later, nearly getting killed all the time, working as a double-agent, et cetera), it's not too much of a stretch to think he looks older than he is. Same goes for Remus and Sirius; life has aged them far more than their thirty years. Where it actually does bug me is James and Lily. Their actors look like they're in their forties, but they were dead around half that age. While I loved the Snape and Lily flashbacks in 7.5, too, Alan Rickman looked odd as Snape at 20 because half of the things that make him look older were just then happening. So yes, it does kind of bother me, but I can justify it most of the time in the name of a good show. Sometimes, I cannot.

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JupitersGrin — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 23:29:34 -0600

I'd want him as a dinner guest... with my dysfunctional extended family at Christmas. That would be fantastic. Snape versus my Grandmother in the verbal grudge match of the century. But seriously, agree with many above: I like Snape because he's a complex, well-developed character with ambitions, needs and flaws, and brings more to the story than just showing up to provide a plot point (poor Justin Finch-Fletchly, you ARE this problem). Though it's all in the past, he shows character development and growth, but still wears many masks - you can put him in almost any role and have him BE that role, believably, without being OOC. Even my favorite character, Our Hero Neville Longbottom, can't have that said.

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Paris and the Blue Jewel — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 13:31:06 -0600

It sounds like we've pretty much all come to the conclusion that Snape's awesomeness is pretty much exclusive to his character development... I have a hard time imagining ANYONE actually wanting to meet him. xD Although some fanon versions of Snape would not be too bad... -is a bit of a sucker for redeemed!Snape AU fanfics- And to be fair to Neville, he may not be able to do the masks, but he probably shows more character development than anyone else in the series. Even Harry is still fundamentally similar to his eleven-year-old self, just more mature.

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Lady_Warrior — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:16:57 -0600

BUGGED ME TOO. A lot. They went for trying to make them look like Harry's parents rather than parents who died too young.

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Aneith — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:32:40 -0600

I wouldn't say exclusive, no. His character development is a big part, but the more shallow side of me also wants to point out that he is a powerful wizard and the books make it pretty clear he's a genius. I'm probably not the only one who likes those traits as well as his character development.

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Paris and the Blue Jewel — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 19:53:00 -0600

Okay, so maybe what I ACTUALLY meant was that nobody can claim he's not a total jerk. xD Poor phrasing on my part.

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MalcolmCooms — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 20:02:37 -0600

So, I take it I'm the only person who started getting annoyed with the perfection of Hermione after book 1? I still like Hermione as a character, but the girl was NEVER wrong. Everything she said always made the most sense, and she did the most complex magic. Plus if there was a fight within the trio it's always Hermione who's taking the "correct" side. I mean, seriously, even when she's being vindictive towards Ron in book 6 (e.g. asking McLaggen to the Christmas Party) pains are still taken to make sure that we're on HER side, not Ron's. I admit, after a while it started to get to me.

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MalcolmCooms — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 20:04:35 -0600

I wouldn't say character DEVOLOPMENT so much as character COMPLEXITY. Snape is a very polarizing character, and there are legitimate debates that could be had about how heroic he and his motivations really were. (BTW, by "legitimate" I mean that both sides can take an opposing sense and neither would be obviously wrong.)

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MalcolmCooms — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 20:20:37 -0600

Oh, and one more Snape point: It always fascinated me how all the Snape/Lily shippers (who tend to hate James) will villify James as a horrible person and lament that Lily chose him over Snape. Why? Well, Snape LOVED Lily! And love conquers all, right? One thing that always stood out to me was, "Well, duh, James ALSO loved Lily. So you're willing to forgive Snape for JOINING VOLDEMORT, BEING A DEATH EATER, and NOT CARING WHETHER LILY'S HUSBAND AND INFANT SON DIE because Snape loved Lily...but you won't forgive James for being a bully as a schoolchild even though he ALSO LOVED LILY...and, if you remember, SAVED SNAPE'S LIFE, and defied Voldemort three times. (Note: We see "Saved Snape's life" from Snape's point of view, that is, Snape perceives it as a selfish act more about saving James' own skin than his skin, but as we know Snape's is practically legendary for being biased. Remember, it was Dumbledore who first told Harry about this, and I don't think Dumbledore would have mentioned it if he thought it was a totally selfish act. I think that more likely when James heard about what Sirius had done he realized that this was going further than a schoolboy grudge and was able to "mature" enough (at least for the moment) to swallow his pride and put a stop to it. Consider: If it was really JUST about saving his own skin you'd think Sirius, who is always described as being, along with James, one of the brightest kids at Hogwarts, would have also gone down with James to rescue Snape. But he didn't. James went alone, and I think that shows a strength of character in James that Snape is far too biased to recognize. It also shows a very real character flaw in Sirius.) Anyway, back to the original point about James/Lily shippers: I think the real reason there's so much Snape love and James hate, in general, is that first of all Snape is a more developed character so we naturally sympathize more, and also because we've all met a "James"-I think more people can sympathize with being bullied because people think you're an oddball than people can sympathize with hating somebody because they're involved with, say, Nazi propoganda or something (a la Snape and the dark arts). That's just not a situation that crops up as much in real life as bullying does, so we tend to project our hate more onto the bully. It's just more likely that you're going to sympathize more with the bullied rather than the bully.

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Lady_Warrior — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 21:50:26 -0600

I never knew people hated James that much. I love them both. I think James turned out all right in the end, else there is no way Lily would have accepted him (that, or I've read too many fanfics...favourite pairing and all~). *coughs* Anyway. Snape is a brilliant character. And so is James - wish he'd been featured a bit more though. I mean, we'd seen more of the Marauders.

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Aneith — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 21:51:18 -0600

I agree with you (and I'm a definite Snape fan). Personally, I like how James is portrayed. He is realistic (at least, in my opinion) and it makes him interesting because he's more complex (even though we don't know much about him). The thing where Sirius tried to kill Snape bothers me though. Not James's part in it. It bothers me that Sirius attempted murder as a teenager, but it's also more than that. He tried to use Remus as the murder weapon. Remus's life would have been ruined and he would have been horrified and guilt ridden. That's a heck of a thing to do to a friend.Then there's the way Dumbledore handled that... Oh and about Hermione, I didn't notice until you pointed it out, but now I understand why I could never relate to her.

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MalcolmCooms — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 23:02:03 -0600

I might be missing something, but I always assumed that Dumbledore never heard this story about Sirius's "prank" until AFTER they all left school...I always figured that James or Sirius (or Snape, come to think of it) told him later, which is why he never did anything about it at the time. I say again that I might be missing something, though. I'm not so sure if Sirius considered what he was doing "murder". I don't have this mindset, so it's hard for me to do this, but let me try and think like Sirius for a moment (I also don't really believe Sirius would think of using his friend like that): Remember, nobody ever thinks they're the bad guy in their own story. They're normally the hero, at worst the victim. Never the bad guy. So, from Sirius's point of view, we have James, Lupin, and Snape. Lupin is one of Sirius's best friends, and we can assume that somehow or other Sirius figured out that Snape was onto Lupin's lycanthropy (remember, in "The Prince's Tale" we do learn that Snape was onto the lycanthropy before the Shrieking Shack incident). Now remember, Lupin is the most "innocent" of the marauders, so you can bet that Sirius was pretty pissed off when he learned what Snape was doing (I'd be pissed too; it's easy to sympathize up to this point). Couple that concept, that Snape was trying to slander somebody who was really a pretty decent guy, if a bit cowardly when it came to defending people from his friends, with the fact that we're only getting Snape's perspective here. Snape is no innocent flower. He's a very capable wizard, and he practices the dark arts in his spare time, and as we know from his conversation with Lily about Mulciber ("That was just a laugh", or something to that effect), Snape is a bully too! So, Sirius thinks of Snape as a coward (sneaking around behind their backs to defile the name of a good person), a hypocrite (deriding them for being bullies while being a bully himself), and honestly, I don't think the Snape v. Marauders was a one sided thing either; neither side "started" it, as seen from the Hogwarts Express section of "The Prince's Tale" (I think it's obvious that both sides were at fault in that instance, although James and Sirius were admittedly more arrogant about it), and the "Snape's Worst Memory" scene is ONE instance in the book where we see James and Sirius clearly ambush and have the upper hand on Snape. Snape was only vulnerable because he was ambushed; we see time and time again that he was a very capable wizard (he INVENTED the spell they use on him in the memory!), so I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that there were other instances where HE assaulted the Marauders, or where he was really vindictively trying to cause them trouble (Snape is a VERY vindictive man). So, here are the strikes against Snape, from Sirius's perspective: He's a coward for trying to secretly defile a good person's name, he's a hypocrite for deriding them for being bullies while bullying people himself (using the dark arts, no less), and he's probably attacked them at least almost as often as they've attacked him (of course, it's four on one normally, but I doubt Sirius ever considered that). You can see how it wouldn't take much to put Sirius over the edge. I don't imagine it would be something done to him; I'd think it more likely that Sirius was trying to back up James; say, Snape tries a spell on James while his back is turned, it just misses, and before James can respond properly a teacher breaks it up and they both get detention. Now imagine that this happens on the same day (just for the sake of argument) that you learn this guy is trying to rat out your good, innocent friend for having an incurable disease! So, Sirius thinks, Enough of this guy. He's been acting like a jerk for too long, and he needs to be put in his place. If he wants to rat somebody out for being a werewolf, let's see how he likes being one! So Sirius tells Snape the whole Shrieking Shack story, and thinks that he's just gotten a sort of "righteous revenge". He tells James this story, thinking James will be on his side and laugh at Snape's misfortune, but James is mature enough to see beyond the petty schoolboy grudges going on here and is horrified. So as soon as James learns about what Sirius has done he rushes off (perhaps to Sirius's mild anger or annoyance, since he thought that James would be as happy about it as he was) and, at risk to himself, pulls Snape away from the Shrieking Shack just in time, realizing that their schoolboy grudge isn't worth a werewolf infection or worse; in that way, James was more mature than Sirius (which is no surprise; Sirius showed signs of immaturity even in Book 5). So, from Sirius's perspective, he was giving a hypocrite and a bully who was trying to slander an innocent guy's name in a cowardly way a "tase of his own medicine", and he was too immature to comprehend what he was REALLY doing to the guy. BTW, we must remember that this is from Sirius's perspective, not Snape's. Perhaps Snape never meant to go public with the information about Lupin, and of course from Snape's point of view everything he did to the Marauders was perfectly justifiable, and even his obsession with the dark arts and his acts of "bullying" were probably more about fitting in with a group for the first time in his life than what James and Sirius were doing, which was more about keeping up an image. Still, we can't deny that even throughout the books Snape is definitely a bully, so there's a kernel of truth in Sirius's reasoning, even if he came up with an incredibly reckless, dangerous. and badly thought out plan for retaliating against Snape.

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Aneith — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 11:45:10 -0600

You have several good points there. I was thinking of it more from Lupin's point of view. I hope you don't mind, but I still think that's a horrible thing to do to a friend no matter what Sirius's reasoning was. It wouldn't have mattered if it had worked and Lupin had to pay the consequences (legally) and was an emotional wreck. (That may just be my interpretation of Lupin's character, but I get the impression that he would be wracked with guilt if he had done killed or turned someone no matter who they were.) I may be remembering it wrong, but I think I read that Dumbledore had a talk with Snape after that incident about keeping Lupin's lycanthropy a secret (which he did until the third book).

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Paris and the Blue Jewel — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 14:30:02 -0600

My interpretation of the story of what Sirius did to Snape is admittedly partly influenced by fanfiction, but I've seen some fanfics with very good points about it, so I'll stick in my two cents. 1. Concerning Sirius: I'm not sure that he even needed particular pressure to make this decision. We know that Sirius is not particularly mature even as an adult (Azkaban having arrested his development), and what we've seen of him as a teenager confirms this. My impression about the werewolf incident is that it simply didn't occur to Sirius that this could result in Snape's death. He's a young Gryffindor with minimal experience of the real world; murder and death are alien to him. Now consider: his experience of Remus as a werewolf is that Remus is mostly harmless, and most of the slander against werewolves he's ever heard has probably come from his family, so his automatic assumption is that werewolves are not nearly as bad as people say, regardless of whether or not they're transformed. Thus, I think he considers this to be just another prank. 2. Concerning Severus: Recall that he is a Slytherin on the path to joining Voldemort, something which has probably accelerated since he's stopped interacting with Lily. - partly because he no longer has her influence to hold him in check, and partly because his "friends" are more willing to include him when he doesn't have that Mudblood holding him back. Compared to Sirius, Severus knows a great deal about murder and death, and I don't think it's taking too much liberty to guess that he takes his feud with the Marauders considerably more seriously than they do. However, he probably doesn't realize they aren't as serious. Severus's interpretation of the werewolf incident is therefore that Sirius intentionally sent him to his death. It does not occur to Severus, I imagine, that Remus is also an injured party, because he doesn't really understand that someone might consider it immoral to just kill someone you don't like. 3. Concerning James: I believe he matures more quickly than Sirius, since we know his ego was deflated enough by seventh year for Lily to agree to go out with him, while Sirius seems to remain mostly immature after Azkaban. This incident occurs, I think, near the end of sixth year, so it would be around the time that James is really starting to grow up. So James has a better sense of what Sirius is actually doing, and also of what it would do to Remus. It's really a no-brainer that he would go after Snape and pull him back. 4. Concerning Remus: This is undoubtedly what caused him to believe Sirius was capable of joining the Death Eaters. I imagine that at the time he was angry, but forgave Sirius, because he believed him to not know what he was doing. Then, perhaps, he later started to consider Sirius's family and the possibility that Sirius hated Snape enough that he might have done it on purpose. 5. Concerning Dumbledore: His being Dumbledore and all, I suspect that he did know about the incident at the time. And while, as a staunch supporter of Severus, I feel that Dumbledore probably didn't do enough to punish Sirius, there are some factors to consider. Suppose Dumbledore had expelled Sirius for attempting to kill Snape. His family would undoubtedly ask questions, and it would probably get out that Remus was a werewolf and had nearly killed Snape. Suddenly Remus, who is in fact a victim just like Snape, becomes the villain, and he probably ends up not only expelled, but executed. It wouldn't help matters that Snape would, from both self-preservation and spite, speak out against Remus. I suppose I should also consider that Dumbledore probably did punish Sirius in some manner, and that Severus either didn't know about it or ignored it so he could be more self-righteous in his accusations of Sirius.

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MalcolmCooms — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 16:21:27 -0600

No, I agree that's a horrible thing to do to a friend. But I don't think Sirius knew that; I think Sirius actually thought he was STANDING UP for Lupin. Probably later (or maybe not; like I mentioned earlier, Sirius stays pretty immature pretty much up until his death) Sirius realized that this would have entailed not only consequences for Snape, but for Lupin too, and regretted at least that portion of the scheme (even if he thought Snape "deserved it", as he says in book three). So I don't think Sirius ever considered the trouble it would cause his friend at all. I think he was looking at it from the perspective of someody sticking up for his friend, and that the whole opposing view of the guilt Lupin would be under and the extreme consequences for Snape and even him and James never even entered his mind until much later. In other words, he was too immature to look at the other side of the coin, but not necessarily an EVIL person. A flawed, one, yes, but not EVIL.

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MalcolmCooms — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 16:29:02 -0600

Paris, you make a lot of very good points. I think the thing to remember here, and I think we're on the same wavelength in this respect, is that in the books we're looking at the world through Snape-colored glasses...and Snape-colored glasses are very colored. I don't think Sirius was being evil here, just stupidly reckeless and very immature. And I don't think Snape was 100% the victim here, either-sure, he was definitely far more "in the right" than the Marauders in this instance, but as I've mentioned previously it's not as if Snape is any sort of innocent flower.

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MalcolmCooms — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 16:29:15 -0600

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Lady_Warrior — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:15:58 -0600

Malcolm, Paris, I loved reading both your posts. You both made very valid points and I completely agreed with you as I read along, not to mention enjoyed each word. Thank you for posting. ^__^

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Aneith — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 18:41:30 -0600

No one is disagreeing that Snape was not exactly good either and no one (here, at least) is calling Sirius evil. All I said is it bothers me because of how horrible the consequences would have been. Snape coloured glasses have nothing to do with how that would have affected Lupin. Lupin coloured glasses probably do though. :P

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Aneith — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 18:45:45 -0600

I mean, Lupin coloured glasses probably makes me care more about what would have happened to Lupin than Sirius's reasoning. Although Sirius's reasoning, no matter how well intentioned, wouldn't have helped Lupin if James hadn't saved them. (Sorry for the double post. Where the heck is that edit button?)

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MalcolmCooms — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 18:56:38 -0600

Yes, yes, yes, agreed; the consequences would have been quite bad if James hadn't saved Snape. I think we agree on more or less everything and have reached that point where we're talking circles around each other.

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Paris and the Blue Jewel — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 20:22:18 -0600

So here's the really important question, then: What color, actually, are Snape-colored glasses? And Lupin-colored glasses, for that matter. And it seems like Sirius-colored glasses are coming into play as well.

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Aneith — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 20:32:11 -0600

Lupin coloured glasses would be purple (or pink or blue) like the flower.

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Aneith — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 20:32:57 -0600

Sorry I just really don't like it when people twist words around.

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MalcolmCooms — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 20:45:29 -0600

Huh? Hold on-when did I twist words around? I just checked, and I never quoted you at all.

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Aerdysias — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 22:00:51 -0600

Favorite book was Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince, and my favorite characters are Sirius Black and Lucius Malfoy. In my mind, book 7 has not been finished, and thus does not exist.

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Aerdysias — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 22:05:07 -0600

I think that's just how JK Rowling writes. *shrug* She did say Hermione was her favorite character.

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Aerdysias — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 22:08:22 -0600

To this day i think its a mistake for JK Rowling to not even CONSIDER the possibility of writing The Marauder's Story.

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Aneith — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 22:10:28 -0600

What? Who suggested you quoted me? I checked and no one (myself included, but not exclusively) said that Sirius was evil, Snape was innocent, or gave the impression of having Snape coloured glasses. The closest that I can find is me saying it bothers me which is why I mentioned it in case the problem was a language misunderstanding (which happens sometimes).

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Aerdysias — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 22:18:51 -0600

Pretty sure that Sirius would go between gray and Blue colors.

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Aerdysias — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 22:19:49 -0600

Oh and for me the best movie was the 5th one. 6-7 can go to Hel.

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Emgem2000 — Sat, 15 Oct 2011 06:39:42 -0600

[quote=Paris]So here's the really important question, then: What color, actually, are Snape-colored glasses? And Lupin-colored glasses, for that matter. And it seems like Sirius-colored glasses are coming into play as well.[/quote] When you said this, I realised I had been imagining Spectre Specs throughout your discussion... And as Lady said, I found both of your points really interesting. I'd never really thought that much about the whole thing.

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MalcolmCooms — Sat, 15 Oct 2011 15:14:45 -0600

Okay, hold on. By "Snape colored glasses", I meant that we had to remember that almost all the information we're getting about the event in question (the werewolf thing with Sirius) comes from Snape, so it automatically makes the marauders look bad since Snape hates them. You looked at it from Lupin's perspective. I just tried to look at it from Sirius's perspective, but in more detail. All that stuff about Snape not being "innocent" were just my attempts to try and get deeper into Sirius's mindset. How could I twist your words around if I never used your words in any of my posts?

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MalcolmCooms — Sat, 15 Oct 2011 15:16:15 -0600

Well my personality is naturally obsessive, so if you're wondering why I put so much detail into my posts...well, now you know. I'm just wired that way.

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prettybellflower — Sat, 15 Oct 2011 16:31:43 -0600

I love Harry Potter. I just started reading it this year. My favorite book is Chamber of Secrets. Also my favorite movie. I've only made it to the fourth book. I tend to like the complicated characters so I like Malfoy & Snape.

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Aneith — Sat, 15 Oct 2011 17:23:43 -0600

Ok I am very confused. I think we both have a different understanding of words. Let's just leave it at that.

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Paris and the Blue Jewel — Sat, 15 Oct 2011 18:42:57 -0600

The picture of Severus wearing Spectre Specs is not one I'm sure I needed to have in my head. xD

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msjedimaster — Sat, 15 Oct 2011 19:42:31 -0600

I love HP way to much. Snape, Dumbledore, Remus, Fred and George and Luna the list could go on forever :D Anyone else here on mugglespace?

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MalcolmCooms — Sat, 15 Oct 2011 20:16:20 -0600

That's probably wise. I apologize for anything I said that sounded offensive.

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DonPasquale — Sat, 15 Oct 2011 20:37:03 -0600

Oh, Harry Potter... My favorite books were the 4th and 5th, my favorite movies the 3rd and 8th. My favorite characters have to be all five members of the Black family, cause they so freakin' dysfunctional. Their psyche is just fascinating.

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Aneith — Sat, 15 Oct 2011 21:02:01 -0600

I apologize as well.

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Aneith — Sat, 15 Oct 2011 21:06:18 -0600

I know! I think Sirius's parents are second cousins... http://www.hp-lexicon.org/wizards/blackfamilytree.html

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Paris and the Blue Jewel — Sat, 15 Oct 2011 21:42:03 -0600

I love that family tree. I've been thinking off and on about a fic going through the generations of the Black family and making up the stories between the lines. (: Family curses are fun to play with. >D

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Aerdysias — Sun, 16 Oct 2011 00:08:16 -0600

Any slash fans of the pairing Lucius/Snape? Found an old pic I did of them :D http://elegant-ruin.deviantart.com/gallery/4235417#/d11o4i5 Enjooooy!

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jenifar_kd — Sun, 16 Oct 2011 06:07:02 -0600

Favourite book: Goblet of Fire Favourite movie: Chamber of Secrets Favourite characters: Severus Snape, Arthur Weasley, Luna Lovegood, Harry Potter, Draco Malfoy, Lucius Malfoy (in that order) Snape - Yay or Boo? : Yay! The true hero of the story, hidden behind the smokescreen of Harry Silliest scene in the movie version that forgets character's motivations in the book: Deathly Hallows Part 2, Harry confronting Severus in the Great Hall. So, why didn't Severus cast legillimens right there and give Harry the memories he needed instead of waiting until the Shrieking Shack? In the book Severus was busy fighting McGonagall, in the movie he was just standing there being dramatic.

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Velociraptor — Sun, 16 Oct 2011 08:50:19 -0600

First started reading the books when only the first three were out, after a friend recommended them to me. Today, no other book I've read has ever felt as special to me as Harry Potter does. Favourite book: Goblet of Fire Favourite movie: Deathly Hallows Part 2 (Half-Blood Prince comes a close second) Favourite characters: Fred & George, Dumbledore, Ginny (in the last three books, at least), Molly, Lupin Snape: Gotta be a yay.

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Enna-Isilee — Sun, 16 Oct 2011 12:13:38 -0600

I started reading Harry Potter twelve years ago, when I was five. I wanted to see the movie and my mom told me I had to read the book first. So I did. And I fell in love. People think I'm weird for loving it so obsessively. What they don't understand is that HP is a huge part of what has shaped me as a person. I have loved and grown up with these characters, so that Harry, Ron, Hermione, Snape, Sirius, etc. feel very real to me within the framework of my own life. It's too much a part of me to NOT love it. Favorite book: Half-Blood Prince Favorite movie: Deathly Hallows. Both of them. I count them as one. Favorite characters: Sirius Black, Snape, Fred & George, the trio...Bellatrix. Snape: I LOVE HIM! Oh, and I'm also a wrock fan...and...*drumroll* I am a Gryffindor, I'll fly with my friends. We'll never back down and we'll fight to the end. I am a Gryffindor, and we own the sky. Yeah, we always win with our rally cry!

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DonPasquale — Sun, 16 Oct 2011 15:00:17 -0600

I know, it's so screwed up isn't it?

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i_love_nutmeg — Sun, 16 Oct 2011 15:15:15 -0600

Well, I was first introduced to Harry Potter when my brother read the first book to me because I was too young to read at that point in time. I've grown up with the books, so in 2007 when DH came out I felt like an era had ended. I Siriusly (no, Regulusly!) cried for two days. That's how obsessed I am. Favorite Book: Order of the Phoenix Favorite Movie: Half-Blood Prince Favorite Characters: Severus Snape, Draco Malfoy On the topic of Severus: Okay, my favorite character of all time, and, in my opinion, the only on who has any true depth. However, Rowling wronged him forever by killing him off, not to mention that I can't stand that he killed Dumbledore. Perhaps it all stems from my issues with Horcruxes as a plot device. Overall, I'm really a fanon girl all the way. Canon is an okay base, but I just can't stand the overall storyline and characterization. Cut me out of the novels after book five. Of course, there is the occasional post-HBP fanfic that I like. So really, I live in the world of fanfiction and can tell you a butload about that...*blushes*. So don't get my started on my fanfiction loves, peeves, and pairings! Oh, and I'm definately a Slytherin!

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i_love_nutmeg — Sun, 16 Oct 2011 15:20:45 -0600

Yes, Severus is truly a complex character that is underdeveloped simply because there isn't enough time in the books to do that and Rowling doesn't really focus on him enough. I agree that he is a very polarizing character, and I wouldn't claim that his motivations were heroic in the least, but to me, that's part of who he is. Like Paris, I'm a bit of a redeemed!Snape fanfiction reader, but not in the sense of fully redeemed. I more mean redeemed in relation to the books, as in he needs to be fully explained.

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imaginepageant — Sun, 16 Oct 2011 15:21:57 -0600

Favorite book? Deathly Hallows. Favorite movie? Half-Blood Prince. Favorite character? Albus Dumbledore. Snape? YAY! He was my favorite character until we got Dumbledore's backstory in Deathly Hallows... but I will always have a very soft spot in my heart for Severus, especially with the tragic ending he received.

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i_love_nutmeg — Sun, 16 Oct 2011 15:22:48 -0600

I can call myself a James-hater proudly. I am perfectly alright with that part of my personality. However, I am not a Severus/Lily shipper. I still refuse to believe that he ever loved her. She was just a good friend, the end. I am part of those conspiracy theory people that believe there must be another reason for Severus turning to Dumbledore.

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i_love_nutmeg — Sun, 16 Oct 2011 15:24:37 -0600

Snape-coloured glasses would be grey with silver specks and flashes of regret.

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Paris and the Blue Jewel — Sun, 16 Oct 2011 15:41:50 -0600

Snape's death doesn't even make sense, in my opinion. Although I admit it's actually a useful death to the plot (unlike Fred, Colin Creevey, Remus, and Tonks, all of whom seem to have been killed solely for emotional impact), I find it difficult to believe that Severus would have been working alongside Voldemort and his nasty snake for three years and yet never come up with an antidote to Nagini's venom. On the other hand, it does make it insanely easy to undo his death in post-DH fics, so I suppose I can't complain too much. xD Personally, I enjoy the canon, but I see many problems with it. Thus, my fanfiction is all about exploring AUs that branch off from various events. My current project, Harry Potter and the Mysterious Potion Shop, is based off the idea of what might have happened if Severus had found someone after Lily and fallen in love. He's a lot less of a grump. xD

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Aneith — Sun, 16 Oct 2011 16:12:33 -0600

I hadn't thought of that! *runs off with plot bunny* I assume (and I may be completely wrong about this, so if I am, I apologize) that he would need a sample of Nagini's venom to create an antidote for it and that would be nearly impossible to obtain without Voldemort finding out about it. I also assume Voldemort would want to prevent anyone from making an antidote. Still... I found this: http://sheana.deviantart.com/gallery/155307#/d10ibok :D

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BriiMarie — Sun, 16 Oct 2011 17:14:08 -0600

Favorite Book: Prisoner of Azkaban (although that has more to do with the fact that it is my newest out of my collection and the pages are nice and white and stuff) Favorite Movie: both Deathly Hallows. I can't wait until the second comes out on DVD and I can watch them back to back. Favorite Character: Draco Malfoy. I can completely feel for him, and Tom Felton portrayed him extremely well in the Half Blood Prince and Deathly Hallows movies. Snape: I like him because of his multiple flaws, and I sympathise with him. He's one of the characters you can write bad or good without really falling out of canon (in fan fiction). And I really prefer him over the Potters and Dumbledore. Favorite House: Slytherin (I belong there and only there)

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Elfflame — Sun, 16 Oct 2011 18:39:55 -0600

Been in the HP fandom since 2003, after seeing the first movie and plowing my way through the first four books. Haven't looked back since. Favorite book has to be Prisoner of Azkaban, because I love the Marauders stuff, and Remus in particular. I'm also very fond of Half Blood Prince for similar reasons, because Snape is one of my all-time favorite characters. Movie...is harder. I liked the movie version of Prisoner well enough, though I didn't think it was as good flow-wise as the first two, and it dropped too much of the Marauders plotline. Half Blood Prince was fun, but Snape was far too much a minor character in it for my tastes. On the other hand, I have to say I really enjoyed Chamber of Secrets, and I loved the Deathly Hallows movies. I think if pushed, I'd probably chose the last one, just because I enjoyed it so much. Favorite characters: Draco Malfoy. I love that he's such a brat, and I love to write him. Three of my four Nanos have been HP fic centered on Draco. I think JK Rowling undersold him as a character. He deserved to go fully bad or to redeem himself, though I'm glad she didn't make him completely evil, at least. Severus Snape. The most complicated character in the series, and also sold short. He deserved better than what she allowed him. Remus Lupin. My favorite of the Marauders, though I will always be angry she chose to kill him because she wanted to round out her little story. There was absolutely no reason for him to die. But then, I never felt she used him well anyway. Blaise Zabini. Yes, he's a background character, but I love that he's Draco's opposite in Slytherin house. It's great to have a character like that to play with. I've written him quite a bit. Regulus Black. Another minor character, another sold far too short. I hate how JK Rowling has all these rich background characters, but doesn't seem to know what to do with them. Favorite House is Ravenclaw, though I wish it were more represented in the books. At least Luna's well-known and liked...

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MalcolmCooms — Sun, 16 Oct 2011 20:21:12 -0600

I think Remus had to die because Rowling wanted to use Teddy to make a point-just because you're an orphan doesn't necessarily mean that your life (or even childhood) is going to be a miserable one.

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Paris and the Blue Jewel — Sun, 16 Oct 2011 22:37:45 -0600

That. Is an awesome comic. Thank you for sharing! xD It's true that it would be difficult, but we also know that Snape's a genius, so it's not too much of a stretch, I think. After all, the chances of Nagini's being a one-of-a-kind snake are minimal. Yes, she's a Horcrux, but that's hardly going to affect her venom. So all Snape would have to do is determine her species and locate another one to get a sample of the venom. ^^ Voldemort doesn't track him everywhere, so he wouldn't know about it.

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Paris and the Blue Jewel — Sun, 16 Oct 2011 22:39:36 -0600

Perhaps, but nothing excuses Colin Creevey. He doesn't even qualify for "even the heartbreakingly cute and Harry-obsessed people are at risk," because Dobby's already died.

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jenifar_kd — Mon, 17 Oct 2011 01:21:13 -0600

I always think of Alan Rickman as Severus's father or uncle ... or Snape is using a really good spell to make himself look 30 years older.

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jenifar_kd — Mon, 17 Oct 2011 01:43:19 -0600

perhaps it's a generational thing. I'm a similar age to JKR. Snape (and some of the other teachers) remind me of 3 of my teachers in the 70's here in Australia. All 3 teachers all had one thing in common - they were all soldiers in world war two and all of them were in serious need of counselling and probably a new career. I'm amazed that I survived them. There was a maths teacher who behaved like a regimental sergeant major and any kids that were mischevious in his class had to do 10 pushups while he yelled at them for being "ungrateful little brats". Do something naughty twice and you'd be polishing his shoes (really, he bought his dirty shoes into the classroom) and the third offence was a ruler across the hands. There was the old Chemistry teacher who had spent too long in the jungles of New Guinea and every chemistry experiment included practical aspects of how they would have been useful in making weapons or how something simliar had been used in what sounded like war crimes. Actually, he was very Moody-like. I always remember the day he explained the similarity between sodium and napalm with detailed descriptions And then there was Sir! No one called Sir anything but Sir. He had spent a year in a prisoner of war camp and would sometimes drift off mid sentence in his English lessons. But you never ever let him see you Not Paying Attention or he'd walk up to your desk and talk to you very, very calmly and very scarily about what would happen if you didn't pay attention get your work done. He could throw a piece of chalk and hit a child straight between the eyes from anywhere in the room. His worst punishments were public humiliation in the quadrangle - having to recite "I am a moron" 50 times in front of older kids. Now they wouldn't get in the front door of a school. But then all of them passed the teachers exams and were liked by the parents!!

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Aneith — Mon, 17 Oct 2011 04:44:08 -0600

True. What kind of snake is she anyway?

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Velociraptor — Mon, 17 Oct 2011 14:29:51 -0600

She doesn't match any kind of real species (venomous, yet large enough to eat humans), so she's either magically modified by Voldemort or a magical breed unknown to Muggles.

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MalcolmCooms — Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:51:20 -0600

But you said it yourself. It was for emotional impact...which apprently worked. If you feel this strongly about it, I think that means she did something right.

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MalcolmCooms — Mon, 17 Oct 2011 16:01:12 -0600

I think you're underestimating Nagini here. I honestly think it would be WAY more difficult than you're implying to create an antidote to Nagini's venom. First of all, in Snape's position, I know it wouldn't occure to me. Why would I worry about a snake when Voldemort can kill me with a single Avada Kedavra? But Snape is smarter than me, so let's say he DOES think of the snake, and wants to make an anti-venom. Nagini, as a horcrux, is almost certainly magically modified by Voldemort; I'd imagine he'd need a sample of Nagini's venom. How exactly does he expect to do that? I never got the idea that Voldemort used Nagini normally. Occasionally, yes, but I don't see her killing people as the norm when there so many more efficient ways. And I certainly wouldn't want to risk going up to her or using a spell on her to get the venom from her mouth. The only way would to be lucky enough to be around at the time that Nagini uses her venom on a victim. That would be very lucky indeed (and before anybody mentions Charity Burbage she was already dead when Nagini ate her, so I doubt she used her venom on her). Now, we know from St. Mungo's that there are anti-venoms that could be used, but remember, the anti-venom has left Snape weak and wounded; he is bleeding to death too, and the venom is weakening him. Who's to say he'd have the strength to use a spell anyway to heal himself, even after taking the anti-venom? I doubt it would work instantly. And once again, genius that Snape is, he is not a healer, and I'm guessing that even the St. Mungo's healers needed an anti-venom in order to cure Arthur. I really think it's maybe sort of possible if you squint but highly implausible that Snape would have survived the snake attack. Honestly, it didn't even occur to me until you mentioned it.

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MalcolmCooms — Mon, 17 Oct 2011 16:02:59 -0600

Sorry, it should say "...and I'm guessing that even the St. Mungo's healers needed a venom sample in order to cure Arthur."

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Castille — Mon, 17 Oct 2011 16:04:47 -0600

I like Harry Potter enough that I'm doing a fanfic of it this year. (See my profile synopsis) Anyway my favorite villain from the movies is a tie between Draco and Barty Crouch Jr. (Because he's played by the doctor!)

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Paris and the Blue Jewel — Mon, 17 Oct 2011 16:41:47 -0600

It all comes down to interpretation, really. It's equally valid to guess that Nagini might be a unique species created by Voldemort, but without specifics in the canon about it, you can go either way when it comes to fanfiction, so being the Snape fan that I am, I prefer to go with the best-case scenario. xP The wonders of fanfic!

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Paris and the Blue Jewel — Mon, 17 Oct 2011 16:42:40 -0600

I don't actually feel that strongly about Colin Creevey, because he wasn't a fully fleshed-out character. But you do have a point.

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Falco Sparverius — Mon, 17 Oct 2011 20:19:36 -0600

Favourite book: Order of the Phoenix. Sure, it's long and depressing and sometimes annoying. But I like to look at it as an allegory for depression, which is long and depressing and annoying as well. I think that, when you look at it like that, it takes on a whole new meaning. Favourite movie: Deathly Hallows, Part 2. Seriously that thing was EPIC. Favourite characters: The Golden Trio, Neville, Ginny, Luna, McGonagall, Mr. and Mrs. Weasley . . . really it goes on. Snape - Shmeh. He was definitely a hero, but he was also creepy, obsessive, and cruel. Some people turn him into a total Mary Sue in fanfic, which bugs me. But yes, he is fascinating.

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lulubell57 — Mon, 17 Oct 2011 21:09:46 -0600

Books: The first 3 and Deathly Hallows Movie: DH2. You have no idea how much I cried after watching this. It just felt like everything was ending. Snape: Yes. So much win. Charcaters: I want to be Luna Lovegood. So much. Also Neville, Ginny, Hermione, Draco... The list goes on.

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Melinda Milos — Mon, 17 Oct 2011 23:53:06 -0600

Yes, Harry Potter! I'm writing a Harry Potter fanfic for NaNo. Well, Albus Potter, anyway. XD I'm really looking forward to being able to sign up to Pottermore. Anyway: Favourite book: Prisoner of Azkaban or Order of the Phoenix. Favourite movie : I dunno, it's been a while since I watched them. :< Favourite characters: Remus, Sirius, Tonks, Fred & George, Minerva, and Luna. Snape: I'm not particularly fond of him, but I think he's an awesome character.

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samhinrichs678 — Tue, 18 Oct 2011 00:21:23 -0600

yay! Harry!! Favorite book: Oh dear... probably PoA, but as a history major I love the back stories we got in HBP and DH Favorite Movie: DH 2 ...even though they cut out all of my favorite parts naturally and messed up the kiss... Favorite Character: erm... I love weird ones... At the moment I'm intrigued with Helena Ravenclaw (my NaNo's actually centered around her), but I've always been fascinated by pre-Voldemort Tom Riddle and the Founders Snape: Yay!! he's actually my favorite of the 'normal characters' and if Jo ever writes another book I want something from POV

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Taurois — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 12:48:24 -0600

Writing a HP fanfic for NaNo! and I also write fanfictions at FF.net Favorite Book: Goblet of Fire Favorite Movie: Prisoner of Azkaban? Favorite Characters: Fleur Delacour, Nymphadora Tonks, and Bellatrix Black-Lestrange Snape: depends on how he is written. Most of the time I hate him. I despise most canon pairings. Ginny is nothing but a fangirl who randomly pops up as an unexplainable love interest somewhere in book 5. I don't believe in almost anything past book 5. They are a myth.

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TeamKnightly — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 13:05:49 -0600

Favorite book: Probably the Prisoner of Azkaban. But the Philosopher's Stone shall forever remain my door to the world of awesome, so I guess it's a tie. Favorite character(s): Too many to mention. But to name a few: Luna, Professor McGonagall, Lupin, Neville, Hermione, Hagrid, Tonks, Mr. and Mrs Weasley tie... Dobby... oh look that's pretty much all of them. Favortie movie: Prisoner of Azkaban. Snape: Yeno? Kindano? Ish? Yes. No... maybe.

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Michael S. Repton — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 18:35:41 -0600

Legilimens reads the target's mind, it doesn't allow the target to read your mind. Snape had to give Harry his memories in a physical container, which would have been a little difficult with everyone watching.

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Leprechaun — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 19:12:51 -0600

I love Harry Potter! (: Not the character. The series. For clarification =D I HATED Snape by the end. I liked him for the first 5 and half-ish books because he was a fascinating character. I knew he wasn't guilty because Dumbledore isn't the kind of guy who begs for his life... But by the end of book 7, when all the details came out, I stopped liking him. If Neville had been the chosen one, he wouldn't have cared at all. He wasn't compassionate or brave - he was just a pathetic man who couldn't move on from a woman who rejected him YEARS ago. (Even though she told him why she didn't like him - because of who he hung out with, etc). Gahh. He frustrated me so much. Ginny was annoying, too. She went from being Harry's best friend's awkward young sister who never spoke around Harry... To being "too popular for her own good," and being REALLY good with jinxes. And there was no discernible transition for either part, which bugged me a lot, too. I actually haven't seen the movies. I saw the first three and stopped because I heard the new Dumbledore was awful. I might see 7 part 1 and 2 at some point... Haven't done it yet, though. The books are really enough for me, though. They basically made my childhood. Dobby, Luna, Mr. Weasley and Gilderoy Lockhart - before and after the accident - were my favorite characters. I really liked Hermione, too.

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SapphireMoon10 — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 04:54:42 -0600

Favourite series ever :D Favourite book: Half Blood Prince, definetly. Deathly Hallows and PoA are tied seconds. Favourite movie: Hmm, I'm not the biggest fan of the movies, purely because of how they arn't loyal to the books. It annoys me to no end when people have only seen the movies, haven't read the books and think they know everything about the series. Or judge the series simply by the movies. But I do like Half Blood Prince. :) Favourite characters? Draco and Severus mainly, but I love all of the characters. :D And I actually like all canon ships! Just not Draco/Astoria... Snape? Well, he is definetly the hero, and he's just plain awesome. But his story is really sad and tragic..and stalker-ish. Which makes me love his character ever more. I love fanfiction! My goal is to write a OC story and change everybody's views on OCs. (Not all of them are terrible Mary-Sues! Most! But not all!)

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MissAngelAdorer — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 09:15:58 -0600

Harry Potter? Pretty decent series, though to me anything past Order of the Phoenix never happened except for in fanfiction. To me, a fanfiction story called "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Redux," is the REAL Harry Potter finale, and it was canon with Half-Blood Prince . . . and I HATE Half-Blood Prince. Favorite book: Prisoner of Azkaban, mostly because it had the introductions of Sirius Black and Remus Lupin. Well, that and because it was the last time I saw Ron—my favorite character—actually act like a hero. I liked him the fifth book, too, but he was pretty immature in that one. Favorite character: Ron, like I said, along with Remus, Sirius, Luna Lovegood, Neville Longbottom, and Albus Dumbledore (R.I.P). I dislike Hermione, so even though I like the Ron/Hermione pairing, it's more for Ron and their banter then for supporting it. Snape: Not a fan. I always hated that guy because he was such a cruel teacher, particularly with how he treated Neville. It got worse when I found out that even if he didn't like James Potter's bullying ways, he thought he could—and he sadly did—get away with being an even worse one, killing the self-esteem of children by taunting them and calling them names. Oh, and finding out that he only tried to stop Voldemort because of Lily was terrible. I could have respected him a little if he'd done it because he truly hated the Death Eaters and wanted to return things to a more "peaceful" lifestyle. As for pairings, Harry/Ginny is okay, but Ginny would have been more likable if she and Harry had hung out more, like in Goblet of Fire when Ron and Harry had their fight. Oh, and personally, I would have preferred if Harry had married outside of his own house because I never thought any of the Gryffindor girls were right for him. I would have preferred he'd been with a Ravenclaw (yes, I do ship Harry/Cho) or Hufflepuff. Ron should have been with someone else, even if I like that ship, and I still wish Luna had ended up with Neville, no matter how unrealistic it was. (Thank you movieverse!) Overall, the last two left a bad taste in my mouth, but I mostly enjoyed the series. The movies? Only saw the first six. Out of those, favorite's Goblet of Fire. But, hey, I did see the movies first.

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Paris and the Blue Jewel — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 12:06:07 -0600

Does anyone else feel that the house distinctions left something to be desired? Hufflepuff was basically useless, Ravenclaw was a plot point, Slytherins can be generalized as evil bastards, and Gryffindors have a little more variety, but can by and large be generalized as the good guys. In the epilogue Harry tries to convince his son that Slytherins aren't all bad, but Snape is literally the only Slytherin we've seen who has any redeeming qualities - and as has already been discussed on this thread, he doesn't have many. Plus I'm pretty sure I remember a scene where Dumbledore said something about Sorting kids too early, with the subtext clearly being that Snape was good, therefore he ought to have been in Gryffindor. I also felt that having Gryffindor somewhat unfairly win the House Cup EVERY YEAR was ridiculous, as was the fact that Harry never lost a Quidditch match except when he was disabled via dementors. (A lot of other people seem to be complaining a lot about characters, but I tend to be optimistic in that regard, so I thought I'd voice some thoughts that aren't related to anyone specific.)

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MissAngelAdorer — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 12:59:02 -0600

Definitely. Personally, I find Hogwarts to be a school that goes to show you how idiotic wizards can be with what they accept as "good education." And it is ridiculous that they only teach magic. What about a basic English class? If most of the purebloods never went to regular school, they probably were tutored at home, and they're probably not that familiar with stuff other than the basics, so their teachers must have a lot of trouble reading their essays. But, on houses, yes. The books kept saying house unity was important, but the end basically said that if you're in Slytherin, you're either evil or anything you do is only for personal gain. It would've helped to have met a somewhat decent person from that house. To me, the houses were an excuse for Jo to "sort," or generalize her characters that weren't main ones based on a few traits. In universe that's basically promoting segregation. And yes to the ridiculousness of the House Cup. I think it's a joke myself, since the students don't get really anything to celebrate for.

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Paris and the Blue Jewel — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 14:03:19 -0600

You've got some good points there. I had to shudder as I imagined trying to read an essay written by someone who could handle spelling and grammar just fine, but didn't know how to structure it... it would be nearly as bad as reading something that had terrible grammar! And also about the House Cup. It does seem to be more for the teachers than anything else, since all that happens is the Head of House gets a trophy in their office. Makes you wonder why anyone cares about how many points they have... That would make a good crack fic. xD Just having people not care at all about their points.

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Leprechaun — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 14:18:11 -0600

I'd love a story that had students purposely trying to lose points because they don't like the head of their house. I also found it odd that the Quaffle was worth 10 points, when the Snitch was worth 150. Since it was apparently such an oddity for the team who caught the Snitch to lose, why didn't everyone ignore the Quaffle and Bludgers and just go after the Snitch?

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MalcolmCooms — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 14:51:25 -0600

I think only the seeker can get the snitch. Plus if you just win every game 15-0 you won't win the league since it goes by points, not wins.

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Taurois — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 14:58:45 -0600

I've seen a few like that. There was a really funny one where Harry had his own house but wouldn't tell anyone the actual name of it so he could tell Snape something close to Slytherin each time (Slythereen) so Snape ended up taking points from his own house. I think it may be a rule that only the Seeker can catch the Snitch. Also don't forget that the game isn't only relying on the Snitch. The team that catches the Snitch can still loose. Case in point, the World Cup. In regards to House Unity, don't forget that most of Wizarding Society are Pureblood bigots

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Leprechaun — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 15:04:31 -0600

Hence why I said oddity - Fred and George bet on that happening, and Bagman acted like they were crazy. I'd like to read that fanfiction if you can find it. xD

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Taurois — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 15:13:06 -0600

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2784785/1/Lets_do_the_Time_Warp_Again It's really funny and basically makes fun of all the cliches and the fact that it's a fanfiction. I thought it got really weird towards the end but it was hilarious all the same.

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Taurois — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 15:22:59 -0600

It's epic for this line: "And Dumbledore had a feeling that he was going to regret not insisting that Voldemort become Harry's head of house."

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Paris and the Blue Jewel — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 16:51:36 -0600

Concerning the discussion about Quidditch, most of your comments are addressed in Quidditch Through the Ages. The 150 points for the Snitch are a vestige of the ball's origins - in one early game, a Golden Snidget (a tiny, round, gold bird) was released and the person who caught it would receive 150 Galleons. Consequently, the game dissolved into everyone going after the Snidget. Eventually, due to the near-extinction of the species (because "catching" it usually involved its death, and it was overhunted anyway), it was replaced with an enchanted ball of the same approximate size and weight, and rules were made to prevent any non-Seekers from catching it (it's a foul known as Snitchnip if anyone other than the Seeker catches the Snitch).

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Aneith — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 16:52:40 -0600

On the subject of the houses: YES! Although you did forget Slughorn. He was a Slytherin and he was a good guy. Seriously though, if I was a Dark Lady, I'd try to get supporters among the loyal and hardworking Hufflepuffs, not the ambitious and cunning Slytherins. I never did understand why people who are supposed to be ambitious and proud would work for a guy who tortures them and treats them like servants. In the fifth book, when the Sorting Hat warned them about house unity, I thought, "Finally!" Then that warning was ignored for the rest of the series. Another thing that bugs me is how the Slytherins are treated by the rest of the school. It's like almost everyone expects them to be evil just because they were sorted into Slytherin. That's got to be rough on a preteen/teen. For example, Harry thought all of them were bad even though he only met Malfoy.

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MalcolmCooms — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 16:57:33 -0600

Ever notice that nobody seems disappointed in their House (Snape did want to be in Gryffindor but he still liked the Slytherin HOUSE most, he just wanted to be with Lily). I don't think it would be rough on any teens/preteens because the Sorting Hat takes your choice into account. Hence you don't see anybody bursting into tears or anything after sorting (I know if I were 11 and got into Slytherin I'd start crying!).

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Leprechaun — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 17:34:14 -0600

That doesn't explain why the Quaffle is worth so little in comparison, though. -shrug- I just feel like the series and the world are built around making Harry as impressive as possible, which irks me a little.

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Aneith — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 17:35:40 -0600

I didn't mean immediately after sorting neither did I mean they would burst into tears. They are in that school for 7 years (most of them). But I suppose not everyone knows what it's like to be expected to be evil from ages 11 to 17. It must be nice to have the luxury of not knowing what that does to a person. I seriously doubt all (or most) of the Slytherins decided, "Hey, I want to be judged as evil for the next seven years."

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MalcolmCooms — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 17:41:43 -0600

Meh, I always thought that Quidditch was structured the way it was for laugh value; it's obviously a pretty ridiculous sport.

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MalcolmCooms — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 17:45:58 -0600

I don't remember anybody meeting a character in the books who ended up miserable and wanted to be put into another House though either. It just seems as if since it takes your choice into account (and since the House knows what personalities fit the various Houses as well) the odds are pretty low that the House that you both choose AND the House that fits your personality well would be something you'd be really unhappy with. To give you an idea of what I'm saying-in Pottermore it's revealed that Neville asked to be put into Hufflepuff but the Hat fought a long battle with him and ended up winning, and Neville became a Gryffindor. The Hat knew that Gryffindor fit Neville's personality better but he also wasn't going to force him into a House he reviled just because his traits matched up. He had the House tailored to BOTH. I think there probably are cases where the Hat gets it really wrong and people hate their House, but I'd imagine this to be quite rare.

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Aneith — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 18:30:30 -0600

I'm not saying they would hate their house either. I would have probably been in Slytherin at 11 and I would still like to be in Slytherin now. Then again, that may be the ambition and pride talking. I can't really speak for people who would be in other houses. I don't know how to explain it so that you can understand.

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MalcolmCooms — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 18:39:27 -0600

I get what you're saying about the Slytherins, how for most pre-teens/teens you're stereotyped as "evil" (or at least as jerks) and how this could really bother pre-teens/teens, but on the other hand I think the Hat knows this too and would only pick those with a thick enough skin. Plus, you're surrounded by a group of like-minded people who would probably be perfectly helpful and willing to offer support for an "outcast" Slytherin. I think because of their "outsider" status they'd be quite protective of their own.

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Aneith — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 19:27:02 -0600

True. I like reading fanfics where they have the protectiveness. :)

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Leprechaun — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 19:51:26 -0600

I have no idea what I just read, but it was HILARIOUS.

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Paris and the Blue Jewel — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 21:40:13 -0600

I agree, I thought it was quite funny, even if it was also completely insane.

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Paris and the Blue Jewel — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 21:47:30 -0600

Fanfics often deal wonderfully with the houses in a variety of ways, I think. I agree that the ones where the Slytherins have a very strong sense of house unity (often surpassing Gryffindor, which in the books is made out to be unified, but actually ostracizes people pretty quickly and gives little or no help to the first years) are cool, and especially the ones where Snape favors Slytherin because everybody else just automatically disfavors them, and he's trying to balance it out. But it's also interesting to read fics where Slytherin is an everybody-for-themselves kind of environment, where there are no friends, only allies. That is to say, those are good because it's not EVIL, but it's another side of ambition, one where it's expected that you're going to be self-serving above all else (because that DOES go along with many types of ambition). Unfortunately, even fics have a tendency to come up short when dealing with Hufflepuff and Ravenclaw, with the exception of fics that deal with one or both of those houses more immediately (that is, are centered around a character in one of those houses, canon or AU). I think it's probably because in the books, we see a lot more of Slytherin than anybody else. We know of three classes that the Gryffindors have had with Slytherins, but there's only one class with Hufflepuff and it's questionable whether they ever see the Ravenclaws at all. As a result, we don't have much to go on. :/

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Taurois — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 22:46:28 -0600

I agree. When the main person isn't in either of those houses they both do get kind of left behind. More-so Hufflepuff than Ravenclaw, especially when dealing with Luna (as they seem to become a bit of a bully house for some reason). To a degree it's not necessarily a bad thing though. If you look at it this way, Gryffindor and Slytherin are both famous for their rivalry, whereas Ravenclaw and Hufflepuff just kinda chill in the background and observe.. Plus, as a member of Slytherin House (Pottermore) I feel the need to say that Slytherin is really an open ended point. We in fact know very little about it's students other than Malfoy and his immediate "friends". Which makes it so easy to write them any way you want to. It can be unified with a council of somesort (I've seen a few of these) or they can be divided and most of the house actually hates Draco and co and only put up with him because of his father and his influence. The latter I have found very interesting.

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Aneith — Fri, 21 Oct 2011 12:28:33 -0600

It's actually really healthy to be self serving (to an extent of course). It's a self esteem thing. Also, you can't help others if you don't take care of yourself first anyway. I get what you're saying though. I just wanted to point that out since people tend to get self serving confused with selfish. I agree with you about Hufflepuff and Ravenclaw in fics. A problem I find with Hufflepuff in particular is that people tend to think they're unimportant or pushovers or something and that shows in their fics. That bugs me.

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Wind Ann Wise — Fri, 21 Oct 2011 18:57:36 -0600

Fave book: Prisoner of Azkaban. Fave Movie: Same Fave character: Ron Snape: Yay!

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keyjennic — Fri, 21 Oct 2011 19:46:46 -0600

Hi! I may be the oldest HP fangirl (?). Favorite book: Deathly Hallows, but I think Order of the Phoenix was the most heart wrenching Favorite movie: DH part 1&2- Yes, I know. So, typical Favorite characters: Fred and George Weasley (my NaNo this year is a fanfic with George and Angeline), Ron Weasley Snape: Yay! He risked everything for the love of his life and her son. With the formalities out of the way. I love the HP world and totally can't wait for Pottermore to open up to us Muggles. :) I want my Hogwarts letter.

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jenifar_kd — Fri, 21 Oct 2011 20:39:42 -0600

True. But it can also be used for communication - eg images of the ministry, Snape and Dumbledore's silent conversation on the Astronomy Tower. So, having been in Harry's head many times before, there's no reason I see why Snape couldn't have blasted Harry with a Legillimens message. 50 words and Harry would have all he needed to know. It wouldn't have worked as well as the memory dump. But once the film makers changed the scene, Snape saying nothing is out of character

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Serlenia — Fri, 21 Oct 2011 22:51:03 -0600

Man I grew up with these books! :) I could never just pick one, although I didn't quite like the 5th book it was hard to get through (the 5th movie was even worse!). As for favorite characters: Harry, Sirius, Severus, and well let's just say I have a lot. And obviously YAY all the way for Snape ^___^. One of my favorite characters. Also for pretty much all the movies (except for maybe movies 1, 2, and 3) I hated them XDD. They miss so much and make the best scenes look stupid and they don't even include important scenes!! So yeah I could go on and on about what I hate about the movies XDD. Also I'm a bigggg fanfic reader on fanfiction.com I'm pretty sure I've read over 200 Harry Potter fics, not including crossovers. XDD Yeah I'm addicted.

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chavalah — Sun, 23 Oct 2011 02:26:28 -0600

Huge Potter fan! Been devouring the books since the fourth one came out. I enjoyed the movies, mostly as a nice gesture for the book fans; I don't think they can stand alone. My favorite movie was the seventh one for getting closest to the gravitas of the first three quarters of the book. Book-wise GoF will always have a special place in my heart. In fact my Nano novel is based heavily upon some original character storylines that I played in a Harry Potter RPG (if you click to my profile, you'll guess which canon character they're related to. :P) I wouldn't call it fanfiction, as it has next to nothing to do with Harry Potter in characters or plot. But suddenly a strain of sci-fi (not fantasy) does seem to be sneaking in, though. :P

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agreysky — Wed, 26 Oct 2011 11:02:14 -0600

I actually only got into the series this past year. Don't judge me; I had a seriously deprived childhood. My favorite book: Don't make me choose. Let's just say Prisoner of Azkaban, only because it's the one I've most recently re-read. My favorite movie is probably Order of the Phoenix, Deathly Hallows Pt. 1 or Pt. 2. Favorite characters: Neville, Sirius, Remus, and Snape. And nearly everyone else. Snape: Yes. Goodness yes. I burst into tears at the mere thought of the Prince's Tale.

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sophie — Wed, 26 Oct 2011 13:45:59 -0600

Harry Potter... is my childhood and I adore it. <3 it means so much to me. favourite book is definitely Prisoner of Askaban, although Order of the Phoenix definitely rivals this. Haven't read through the thread but will do. :) See what everyone has been saying. Just thought I'd say HI Potter fans! Also, AVPM anyone? x

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FrozenShadow52 — Sat, 29 Oct 2011 00:56:33 -0600

I love Harry Potter! This is the series that got me into reading, and subsequently, writing. My favorite book would have to be "Goblet of Fire" because I see it as the series turning point. The story gets darker, the choices harder, and the line between good and evil aren't so clear anymore. I sort of view this book as the official end to Harry's childhood. So, yeah, GoF and pretty much anything after that. I'm not a huge fan of the movies; I feel they diverge from the source material far too much, and I don't like Hermione's characterization (she really comes off as a Mary-sue, having all the strengths of her book counterpart, with now of the weaknesses). And I really hate the way they handed off nearly all of Ron's awesome moments to her. However, I did like DH part 1, and have heard good things about part 2, so maybe there's hope. My favorite characters: Neville Longbottom, Ron Weasley, Harry Potter, Tom Riddle, Dumbledore, Cedric Diggory, and Luna Lovegood. And now, the big one: Shape. Oh, Severus Snape, how you frustrate me so. On one hand, his ambiguous loyalties added a layer of complexity to the story, and I felt Rowling handled him very well. But he's such a hypocrite. Seriously, you can't expect me to sympathize with him because he was bullied when he's doing THE EXACT SAME THING TO SMALL CHILDREN!!! Nope, sorry, doesn't work like that. At least Sev could defend himself if he had to; his students as basically powerless against him. If this was the real world, his ass would be fired (and most likely sued and/or arrested). He's also quite selfish, as others have pointed out. He was perfectly willing to let James and Harry die if it meant getting to have Lily all to himself. James I could understand, but come on, Harry was a baby! Dumbledore even called him out on this. All-in-all, I'm gonna have to go with a big old Boo.

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Itzika — Sat, 29 Oct 2011 02:03:04 -0600

It can only be used for communication if BOTH parties know it, so they can read each other's minds (whatever Snape said about it not being mind reading, that's what the word means). And I thought Snape and Dumbledore weren't actually having a conversation, just mentally reviewing what they both already knew. Having a conversation in the same sense that an old married couple can have a silent conversation.

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Itzika — Sat, 29 Oct 2011 02:05:13 -0600

You love LOCKHART? I... I just... To each their own, and all, but--I have to ask--WHY???

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Itzika — Sat, 29 Oct 2011 02:07:28 -0600

"I like the concepts of certain characters more than the actual characters themselves." THIS. This so much. Especially when it comes to Snape. I read fanfiction where things go differently and he realizes Harry isn't his father and then I go back to canon and I go "...Oh. Oh right. You really are a complete and utter (expletive). No, pining after his mother and getting mocked by his father DOESN'T make it okay."

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Itzika — Sat, 29 Oct 2011 02:21:00 -0600

Hermione thought the sword would be in Godric's Hollow. Hermione had no idea where the next Horcrux would be--they only found it because Harry broke the taboo (that is, because he messed up and DIDN'T follow Hermione's advice). Hermione was heavily involved in the plan to get into Gringott's, which nearly failed because of the Thieves' Downfall. HARRY was the one to cast the Imperius Curse and get them past security, while Hermione hadn't caught on to the fact that they knew Bellatrix's wand had been stolen. If I'm remembering right, in the book it was Harry's idea to ride the dragon out of Gringott's. (Granted, in the movie they gave that to Hermione--but that's not JKR's fault.) Hermione didn't accept that wands have loyalties until she had a wand in her hand that didn't owe allegiance to her. Hermione didn't find a single Horcrux, she didn't find the sword of Gryffindor, she didn't think of the basilisk fang, she didn't get them into the Chamber of Secrets, and she only destroyed the cup because Ron thought she should have a turn. Hermione was NOT perfect in book 7. And the term Mary Sue REALLY bugs me, because it's REALLY overused.

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Itzika — Sat, 29 Oct 2011 02:46:50 -0600

Speak for yourself. I absolutely needed that in my head. It will keep me entertained for hours.

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Itzika — Sat, 29 Oct 2011 02:57:09 -0600

True, he is not a Healer. However, seeing as he is not in Hogwarts grounds (being in the Shrieking Shack, which is in Hogsmeade), he could Apparate to St. Mungo's, which is full of Healers. Assuming, of course, he had an anti-venom. And the strength to stand and turn.

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Itzika — Sat, 29 Oct 2011 03:01:29 -0600

Technically, she did something WRONG. Colin Creevey was Muggle-born, but somehow he was back at Hogwarts in the final battle--when you had to prove Blood Status to get in. He couldn't have Apparated into the pub like the others, either, because you learn that in sixth year--the year he was supposed to be in that year. She threw in one more death to pull at the emotional strings and it was a plothole.

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Mistress Lrigtar — Sat, 29 Oct 2011 11:53:53 -0600

Love Harry Potter and just discoverd HP fan fic. Fav Book: Goblet of Fire Fav Movie: Prisoner of Azkaban Fav Character: Harry, Luna Snape: Boo, even though he's sort of a hero, it's cancelled out by how he treated Harry. Shame on you, Severus. You should have taken Lily's only son under your wing. But there again, if he had, Voldemort probably would have suspected something, so maybe Snape had no choice but to be mean to Harry. Oooo, the bunnies are hopping now. Overall, I enjoyed the movies, but think the books are better. I especially think they missed the mark with the movie of "Half-Blood Prince". Did they even read the book? Harry standing around doing nothing to try to save Dumbledore at the end of that movie gets my hackles up. At least he had the excuse of being petrified in the book. Why they decided to omit that very important factor, I will never understand.

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Itzika — Sat, 29 Oct 2011 13:40:45 -0600

"Boo, even though he's sort of a hero, it's cancelled out by how he treated Harry. Shame on you, Severus. You should have taken Lily's only son under your wing. But there again, if he had, Voldemort probably would have suspected something, so maybe Snape had no choice but to be mean to Harry. Oooo, the bunnies are hopping now." I considered this. And called BS. For the first four books, there was no reason for Snape to respect Voldemort's wishes, because he was powerless and effectively DEAD. And if Snape had trusted Harry a bit more, Voldemort might never have returned--because with Snape helping, they would totally have caught Pettigrew. From book five on--seriously? Voldemort wouldn't want his spy, who also happens to be at least a decent Legilimens, to be close to the only one who can defeat him? Learn his strengths, his weaknesses, who he would do anything for? Seriously? Voldemort is not going to pass up an opportunity like that. No. This was about Snape hating James more than he loved Lily. Which means even his "redeeming factor" isn't all that redeeming.

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Paris and the Blue Jewel — Sat, 29 Oct 2011 20:21:37 -0600

I love what-if scenarios like this one. They make for great fanfiction. In fact, one of my favorite things in fanfiction is when Snape gets redeemed in some way - like figuring out that he's being a jerk with Harry and doing something about it. Which really ought to have happened in the books. I actually thought the movies made his character less horrible. Okay, so it's probably partly the fact that Alan Rickman is attractive instead of ugly, but apart from the initial Potions class, Snape really isn't a jerk to Harry unless Harry's doing something wrong (like the scene in GoF where he smacks Harry and Ron for talking when they're not supposed to). He's nasty to Sirius in the Shrieking Shack, but for that whole part of the movie he's basically just trying to protect the trio, with a side order of getting one over on his other childhood bully. Anyone else have thoughts about movie-Snape vs. book-Snape?

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MalcolmCooms — Sat, 29 Oct 2011 20:54:09 -0600

I've never looked deep enough to see a difference between bok and move Snape, but here's a question-should Snape, the character, have gotten redeemed in some way (like, for example, realizing he was horrible to Harry)? I would argue that from what we know of Snape's personality it fit his character (in the books, at any rate) more for him not to admit he was wrong in the way he treated Harry. I'm trying to think of a way to word it, but I'm having trouble. Just...I find it hard to see Snape admitting that such a deep-seated, prejudicial hatred was wrong. I know, I know. He showed a lot of remorse when it came to Lily. But this seems...different, somehow. If I think of a way to word it better later, I will.

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BookWormVicky — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 09:43:45 -0600

Favourite book: Prisoner, which seems to be a popular choice! Not for Sirius though, I'm really not fond of him. I should be able to forgive him for the mistakes he made as a teenager as I can James and Severus (I'll get on to Severus' adult mistakes in a minute) but I find that I can't. I adore Remus so much, and I hate with a firey passion what Sirius did to him. By this I mean Sirius leading Snape down towards the Whomping Willow, I just do not understand this action on any level. If he wants to scare Severus then he's revealing Remus as a werewolf - Severus is an intelligent fellow, he'll work it out - and if he wants to hurt Severus then he is trapping Remus in the body of a creature killing a fellow school mate and risking his freedom! Did he think he could stop a werewolf? He cannot have considered Remus in this action at alI, though they were meant to be friends. It's probably just a bad plot hole, but I have a lot of feelings about this, none of them good. And I don't like the whole 'The risk would have made it fun for James.' bit, it's not looking after Harry at all to encourage him to take risks, though I suppose leeway should be given as he has come out of Azkaban. Anyway. Rant over. I couldn't pick a favourite movie, but for characters I would have to go with Luna and Remus <3 As for Snape: a yay to the concept, a boo to the way he treats Harry. I do think there is a lot to be said for Severus, he is an incredibly brave man and I can forgive him for his teenage mistakes (kind of) but there is no excuse for the way he treats Harry, the prejudice was appalling and as seen above, I reject the 'he had to be evil to him' theory, though I am perfectly willing to use it in fics. As I said, yay to the concept! Snape could be an incredible character, I love reading fics in which he treats Harry well and they form a strong mentor/student, father/son type relationship (though I won't say no to a romantic relationship with a strong plot line). I love the possibilities of Snape being good, and a nice person, and in fact my NaNo is a fanfic based on Severus having always been a spy for the Light, but Dumbledore having concealed this from him in order to stop him from caring for Harry and taking him away from the war. And Draco and Narcissa are good, because I love those possibilities too. I shall round this off with my ships, I'm a massive multishipper, het, slash and femslash! I tend to read mostly Harry/Draco with Severus as a father figure, but I also love Remus/Severus, Harry/Luna, and will read just about anything. I love book!Harry/Ginny, and just feel really sad about the lack of chemistry between Dan and Bonnie. Good luck to you all, and Don't Forget To Be Awesome!

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Aneith — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 09:55:27 -0600

I believe the word would be stubborn. Snape is too stubborn to admit that he's wrong (at least out loud).

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MalcolmCooms — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 13:41:59 -0600

Ther is a whole interesting discussion on one of the previous pages (either 3 or 4) about what Sirius's mindset was during the Snape/werewolf incident. Needless to say, I think the motivations behind it complex, and certainly don't consider it a plot hole.

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MalcolmCooms — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 13:43:16 -0600

Yeah, I think that's it.

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MalcolmCooms — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 13:51:03 -0600

You really don't think there was any way for him to have snuck his way in? I just see that as another example of their being more to Creevey than meets the eye (the first time we get a glimpse of this side of personality is the camera-the pictures had to be developed in a magical potion to make them move. Creevey would have had to learn that on his own-there's no freaking way Snape would help him). Or, he could have learned how to apparate on his own. He would have, after all, been forced to go on the run; it was a pretty extreme situation, and we know that in Harry's 3rd year he learned NEWT level magic (patronus), so it's not impossible.

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MalcolmCooms — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 13:53:37 -0600

That's assuming a lot, including whether or not you could apparate into St. Mungo's, or if they'd help him when he got there. And anyway, the bigger issue is the anti-venom, and his ability to apparate at all, in the first place.

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Aneith — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:13:26 -0600

Indeed. I am also of the opinion of that was a crappy thing for Sirius to do to Remus even though he was a teenager and an idiot (their own words). There is a long discussion about it though. Does anyone else find Harry's reaction to how people keep using "fifteen and an idiot" or "he was young" to justify mistakes people made as teenagers and young adults amusing?

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BookWormVicky — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:29:56 -0600

Thank you, I knew I'd regret not reading through the entire thread before posting! I can definitely see your points against Severus as regards the Marauder/Snape conflict, there is no way this is a one sided war between the two of them. I agree that Sirius wouldn't have considered it murder, or really thought about the consequences to Remus, it's just this blindness I have a hard time getting around. I don't understand how he could possibly not have seen that, but I think that's just an essential difference between my character and that of Sirius. As for the plothole thing, I've been told many times when trying to start a debate about this occasion (mostly IRL) that Sirius is a good man, a fabulous man, I'm taking it too seriously, it's just a slip by JK to have this poor action performed in order to get James into a good light, so I tend to be cautious bringing it up :)

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BookWormVicky — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:37:46 -0600

I'm not sure I really understand what you mean by that question...? I love Harry's reaction, it's one I agree with totally, and though I say that I do forgive Severus and James for their teenage mistakes - and I do as their characters clearly change as they mature - I have never agreed with the way that they acted no matter what age they were, or what age I was as I read. Clearly I was(/am) a morally virtuous child... sort of... xP Also, do either of you have any thoughts on when this incident occurred? I haven't read the books in far too long, so please forgive me if it says, but all the HP Wikia says is 'early in their school career', whereas I have been imagining it later, which may be a part of my lack of comprehension towards Sirius' blindness.

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sorrygrimmjow — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:46:15 -0600

Which is your favourite book/movie? Book and movie: Prisoner of Azkaban. Who are your favourite characters? Sirius and Remus, I adore them. Thus my favourite book being PoA. Snape: Yay or Boo? Hmm neutral on Snape. Sure he's got that undying love and protected Harry, but he's still a major ass to so many people, especially Neville. And I dunno the whole Lily thing was sad, yes, but annoying as well.

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Aneith — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 17:51:40 -0600

Well, when he confronts Remus and Sirius about Snape's memory and they say "We were fifteen and idiots," he responds with "I'm fifteen!" When he, Hermione, and Ron read Dumbledore's biography and find out that he and Grindelwald were making plans "for the greater good" and Hermione and Ron say "he was young," Harry responds with "he was the same age we are!" (Paraphrasing, of course.) I think it's cute.

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MalcolmCooms — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 21:10:53 -0600

Also, as a discussion point-I think it just proves something we all know about Harry: His difficulties in life caused him to mature much faster than most people. Plus, some people just naturally mature faster than others.

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Paris and the Blue Jewel — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 21:31:12 -0600

Oh, I don't think there's anything wrong with the canon. But I will readily admit that I don't mind fanfics that are a little OOC if it's tastefully done and there's a good reason for it. And different circumstances can lead to different repercussions. The fics where Snape resists redemption but ends up with it regardless tend to be the best ones though. :D

Re: Harry Potter!

Itzika — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 21:37:02 -0600

I can see reasons why they would and why they wouldn't want people Apparating into Mungo's, but he could definitely Apparate right outside... if, again, he could Apparate at all. But yes, it is assuming a lot. :/ Sadly, that's the only way I see him surviving. Looks like JKR wins and he dies.

Re: Harry Potter!

Paris and the Blue Jewel — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 21:38:49 -0600

Do you have any Sevitus fic recs to share? I'm always looking for good ones. (: Of course I may have read some of them already, but I'm sure I haven't seen everything there is. I'm open to ones with romance (Drarry is lovely), although I am picky about Severus and usually will only read him in pairings with one of the Marauders, Lily, or Regulus. (Or Harry, but not simultaneously with Sevitus... that's too squicky for me. xD) I'm using Sevitus in the general sense rather than specifically a biological relationship. Also, I WILL read your NaNo fic. You can't stop me.

Re: Harry Potter!

Itzika — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 21:47:00 -0600

The kid who told him about the potion could have helped him make it. I guess in theory he could have learned to Apparate on his own. The thing is, being a school-age Muggle-born, he can't get into Diagon Alley or any other magical shopping area without being first caught by Snatchers and then arrested for "stealing" magic. And spending all his time in the magical world at Hogwarts, where apparition is impossible, I don't see him having any image in his head to work from, even. So both books and working backwards are out. He'd have to learn through trial and error, or sheer willpower--and wizards working magic that way typically goes horribly, horribly wrong. And even if he did learn to Apparate, he wouldn't have been able to Apparate on to Hogwarts grounds--probably something terrible would have happened had he tried--and if he Apparated to Hogsmeade, he would have been caught and/or set off the Caterwauling Charm, because no one ever told him about the Hog's Head. So unless he had a teacher who could both teach him Apparition and get him into the Hog's Head (which isn't impossible, but is unlikely), I don't see how he'd manage it. And we saw in HBP that the wards had been strengthened so that you couldn't just fly in on a broom unless the headmaster took them down, which Snape isn't going to do for Colin; and that the gates are barred, so even if somehow he had an Invisibility Cloak or learned to be an Animagus (again, don't see how), he wouldn't be able to get through. And the secret passages we know of all lead to Hogsmeade, which I don't see how he could get into. In theory, he could have figured something else out--but then why isn't he in Ravenclaw or Slytherin? They would have more use for a brain like his. I guess I'd accept it if it wasn't just out of nowhere. It feels like a mistake.

Re: Harry Potter!

Itzika — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 21:53:25 -0600

I don't really have a favorite book. I love PoA for various reasons I can't quite articulate, but I also love everything after that. The first two are good, but they don't really have as much relevance to the overall arc. I don't have a favorite movie for pretty much the opposite reason: I don't watch the movies pretty much ever, I don't remember just about anything about them except the latest two, and I don't particularly care about them except how much they got wrong. Favorite characters... Remus. I adore Remus. I wish he could have stayed as teacher longer. And... no, that's pretty much it. I love most of the characters, but Remus stands out. Maybe because I just reread PoA. Snape: No. Nonononono. His "redeeming feature" is his love for Lily, right? So why was he so horrible to Harry? Either he hated James more than he loved Lily, in which case his love wasn't all that great, or he hated Harry for living instead of Lily, in which case he just didn't love Lily enough to care what she would have wanted. That sucks as a redeeming feature. It's supposed to make him a more interesting character, but it... I just hate him for it. And I already posted on why thinking he "had" to be horrible to Harry is BS, so I won't go into it here. On the other hand, in fanfiction, when things actually go differently and he ends up at least tolerating Harry, that's a lot more fun to read. Because it means that he actually cares about people--about LILY--enough to care about her son. I figured out the distinction a couple weeks ago--I like Severus much more than I like Snape.

Re: Harry Potter!

MalcolmCooms — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 22:28:09 -0600

Sure the kid who told him about the potion could have helped him make it, but on the other hand, he might not have, so even if it's not direct evidence of Colin's "gumption", so to speak, it certainly at least raises the possibility that there's more to Colin than meets the eye. Remember that guy who Fred and George stuffed in the vanishing cabinet (his name escapes me, but he was a Slytherin)? He learned to apparate on his own. All it would take would have been for him to have known an older student who was learning to apparate, so that he knew the theory, and he could theoretically have figured it out. I mean, he'd have to be lucky to avoid splinching (or at least be with somebody good at healing), but he could still do it. And what if he were listening to Potterwatch? Perhaps it was common Potterwatch knowledge that Aberforth's bar was the go-ahead place. Or he could have hooked up with other run-aways. Remember, this is sixth year Colin, not young Colin, so his magic should be fairly advanced anyway. Also, this comment: "In theory, he could have figured something else out--but then why isn't he in Ravenclaw or Slytherin? They would have more use for a brain like his." ...Seems to have an obvious objection. Why isn't Hermione a Ravenclaw or Slytherin? Because she values bravery OVER brains or ambition. Why is Colin a Gryffindor, even if he's (theoretically) very resourceful? Because he values bravery more. In short, I could totally understand you having a problem with Colin's death-a lot of fans did, even though I didn't, and there are valid reasons for disliking it. But I think it's going a bit too far to say that Colin's being at the battle was a flat-out mistake. I think the best you could say is that there was no in-canon explanation for it, and thinking of one on our own does take a bit of doing-a point I concede.

Re: Harry Potter!

angonzo — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 23:02:45 -0600

Which is your favourite book/movie? Movie: DH part 2 I hated pretty much every movie except for the last two. They don't do the books near enough justice, and there isn't enough Snape/Marauder subplot included. While I understand that they couldn't have included EVERYTHING from the books, I feel like they leave important pieces out and add in unneeded scenes. Book: Half Blood Prince Its basically called Harry Potter and Severus Snape. Yes. YES. I love this book so much, I would marry it. Who are your favourite characters? Snape, The Malfoy family Snape: Yay or Boo? Yay. See above. I've been a Snape fan since before it became cool. *throws on an indie hat and smokes a cigarette*

Re: Harry Potter!

Itzika — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 23:36:13 -0600

My favorite Sevitus author is jharad17 on fanfiction.net. They've written a pre-Hogwarts AU where Snape adopts Harry and a Slytherin!Harry AU where Snape mentors Harry. Severus isn't shipped with anyone in either. Be warned, though--the Snape-adopts-Harry one includes quite graphic child abuse on the part of the Dursleys. I usually back out of fics at that point, because I don't buy that they'd do that if nothing else, but it's otherwise a great fic and the relationship between the two is fantastic to watch grow.

Re: Harry Potter!

Rahnawyn101 — Mon, 31 Oct 2011 01:08:14 -0600

I love Harry Potter. I really think that's all I need to say. xD

Re: Harry Potter!

BookWormVicky — Mon, 31 Oct 2011 01:37:30 -0600

Yeah, it is :) *nods* Very good point, he could never have the freedom of teenage mistakes with the pressure on his shoulders, not that the Dursleys would have allowed it anyway.

Re: Harry Potter!

BookWormVicky — Mon, 31 Oct 2011 01:55:49 -0600

Thank you for that rec, I'll definitely have a look at them! :D I quite like abusive!Dursleys. That sounds wrong. But I like them at kind of canon levels, it can be interesting to a story. Drarry is lovely <3 And I don't see enough Regulus/Severus around :( You've probably already heard of Vorabiza, but everything she writes is amazing. My favourite of hers - and probably my favourite fic - is Secrets, a Drarry with background Remus/Severus and awesome Twins and Ginny. Malfoy Flavour is also great, but it's got a fair bit of Severus/Lucius. You should be able to just google her and find her fics :) I've got to write an essay before I go to school, so am in a bit of a rush (ohh, have you read the Saving Connor Potter series? Connor is Harry's twin and they all think he's the boy who lived, Dumbledore is manipulative, Lily abusive and James blind to this. Severus realises there is something wrong with Harry when he is Sorted into Slytherin at the start of his first year, and it's Drarry as well :D They're incredible, but very long and I must admit that I haven't got around to finishing the series yet. Anyway. School essay.) but this site http://partial-eclipse.net/lists/bytheme.html has links to a list of Sevitus and Sevitus with slash, which I think is mostly Drarry, and potionsandsnitches.net is entirely dedicated to Severus/Harry non romantic interaction, with guardian, father and mentor sections to look through. I don't spend a lot of time on there because I often can't find Drarry, but I love it when I do :) Yay :D *happy dance* I don't want to, I think many people may be scared off by how much is going on. I'm scared by how much is going on! I might need an to make a story out of my Marauder Era backstory, and may be half writing that as well. It could be fun. Your story sounds brilliant! I'm definitely going to check out your ff.net profile :) <3

Re: Harry Potter!

Twenty Thousand Eyes — Mon, 31 Oct 2011 02:58:21 -0600

It's pretty clear to me that there are a lot of questionable aspects to Rowling's writing. However, I must say I very much enjoy the concept and the books, despite their flaws. Heck, if the quality starts out good, I can usually forgive a lot of problems that may crop up later in the series. Even my favorite series in recent memory (The Fourth Realm Trilogy and His Dark Materials) had some pretty lame twists and writing towards the end, but I still enjoyed them because it was a great ride. Actually, the symphony at my college put on a Harry Potter-themed concert today, which my girlfriend and I went to. The movies really do have some great music. Favorite character is definitely Luna Lovegood. The other two questions, not sure.

Re: Harry Potter!

sweetproserpina — Mon, 31 Oct 2011 06:18:15 -0600

Which is your favourite book/movie? Book: Half-Blood Prince (so much Draco potential!) Movie: Prisoner of Azkaban (just so hilarious! Hermione's "Does my hair really look like that from the back?") Who are your favourite characters? Draco/GInny Snape: Yay!! Although I prefer him in Fanfiction. I think JKR had such a great opportunity with him and the Slytherins, but she blew it in the last book. She painted her characters as so black/white when they are really shades of grey. Snape's death was so terrible and lame. Such a disappointment for a character with so many possibilities...

Re: Harry Potter!

jenifar_kd — Mon, 31 Oct 2011 06:31:46 -0600

[quote=MalcolmCooms] Ever notice that nobody seems disappointed in their House (Snape did want to be in Gryffindor but he still liked the Slytherin HOUSE most, he just wanted to be with Lily). I don't think it would be rough on any teens/preteens because the Sorting Hat takes your choice into account. Hence you don't see anybody bursting into tears or anything after sorting (I know if I were 11 and got into Slytherin I'd start crying!). [/quote] I've always thought that the Houses were also a slightly clunky analogy of the countries of the Founder's era, and all the stereotypes of their inhabitants. Gryffindor = England, Ravenclaw = Scotland, Hufflepuff = Wales, Slytherin = Ireland And JKR just never thought that anyone would want to change houses/cultures. *shrug*

Re: Harry Potter!

Itzika — Mon, 31 Oct 2011 08:14:34 -0600

I've been out of fandom so long I haven't heard of Vorabiza, actually, so thanks for the rec. (And I love Remus/Severus. And the twins. And Ginny. :D) I don't think I've seen the Saving Connor Potter series. I'll have to check it out. Thanks for the recs!

Re: Harry Potter!

BookWormVicky — Mon, 31 Oct 2011 09:22:39 -0600

She is amazing. I worship her. Well, I would, but it seems a little creepy. If you have any Remus/Severus recs I would be delighted to hear them, I really don't read enough of them! I don't read anything like enough Marauder Era. I have been trying to finish reading it for about two years now. It's ridiculous, every time I leave it for a while I decide I need to reread everything, that's my problem. I hope you have better luck xD No problem :)

Re: Harry Potter!

Mistress Lrigtar — Mon, 31 Oct 2011 09:44:04 -0600

I have to agree with your analysis of the movie version of Snape. He is definitely more likable than he is in the book. James and Sirius do treat him horribly in the book, so I can understand his initial animosity towards Harry, but if Snape hadn't been so blinded by his hatred of James, he would have seen that Harry really took after Lily as far as his personality is concerned.

Re: Harry Potter!

MalcolmCooms — Mon, 31 Oct 2011 11:27:52 -0600

Interesting theory, but I'm afraid that I have to admit that I really don't see it at all. I mean, Seamus Finnigan is a Gryffindor. Names don't get much more Irish than that!

Re: Harry Potter!

Aneith — Mon, 31 Oct 2011 11:58:19 -0600

Yeah I was disappointed by how black and white it ended up being at the end too. I mean, it was throughout the other books because we really only saw Slytherins like Malfoy and through Harry's eyes, but the last book made it even worse in the last battle.

Re: Harry Potter!

Itzika — Mon, 31 Oct 2011 12:01:02 -0600

Aagh, again, I've been out of the fandom so long whatever Remus/Severus fics I may have read before I left (and I wasn't that into the pairing before I left) I've completely forgotten. I'd love to hear any good ones you've read, though. And I'll let you know if I find any. :)

Re: Harry Potter!

mattskywalker — Mon, 31 Oct 2011 12:58:54 -0600

I'm dressing up as Harry for Halloween. :D

Re: Harry Potter!

MalcolmCooms — Mon, 31 Oct 2011 13:01:58 -0600

I thought the Slytherins DID come back at the end? And Snape, good or bad character, did at least end up to be fighting for the "good" side the whole time.

Re: Harry Potter!

BookWormVicky — Mon, 31 Oct 2011 14:49:53 -0600

Unfortunately I really haven't read any ones worth reccing :( I've not read that many, full stop, to be honest. I'll let you know if I do though, and thank you :)

Re: Harry Potter!

Aneith — Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:15:58 -0600

I probably should reread it again. Once I do, I'll quote the parts I'm referring to.

Re: Harry Potter!

jenifar_kd — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 01:30:17 -0600

[quote=MalcolmCooms] Interesting theory, but I'm afraid that I have to admit that I really don't see it at all. I mean, Seamus Finnigan is a Gryffindor. Names don't get much more Irish than that! [/quote] I think you misunderstood what I meant ... probably because I didn't explain it very well. What I meant was the character of the Houses reflects the bad stereotype of the countries, particularly through the eyes of the English (Harry). England - bossy, brave, sometimes politically foolhardy, always believes they're right, lots of gold and red lions all over various coats of arms. Scotland - clever and intelligent but often misunderstood politically and tend to work alone. Flag of blue and silver-bronze Wales - hardworking, stick together, lots of miners who dig in the earth (like badgers), nothing else seen of interest by England (old stereotypes, not reality) Ireland - clever and cunning negotiators, like green a lot and have lots of legends about snakes. All bad as all of them want to kill English people (again we're talking bad old stereotypes here, not reality)

Re: Harry Potter!

Paris and the Blue Jewel — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 08:30:44 -0600

If either of you wants to try to find something on my favorites list, it's got plenty of Sevitus and a few other things (but there is also lots of Snarry, so be warned). My ff.net reading-fanfiction name is Paris and the Blue Jewel. It will eventually be updated with a bunch of additional fics - I haven't been on that account in a while. Thanks for all the recs! I've read through book 4 of the Saving Connor series, but I stopped because I needed to sleep. xD I also do regularly go on Potions and Snitches.

Re: Harry Potter!

Itzika — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 09:00:58 -0600

Awesome, thanks! (I don't mind Snarry in theory, though I've never read any so I can't be sure. I just really wish Harry and Severus's relationship had ended up better.)

Re: Harry Potter!

Paris and the Blue Jewel — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 09:36:17 -0600

I actually put down the wrong account - my reading account is Paris in December. Whoops! Paris and the Blue Jewel is the one where I am now posting fanfics.

Re: Harry Potter!

FranciePants — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 12:29:33 -0600

Favorite Book: Order of the Phoenix Favorite Movie: Deathly Hallows Favorite Characters: Snape, Luna Lovegood, all the major baddies Snape is my absolute favorite character in the series and probably my favorite fictional character overall. He does something so great, but he's such a terrible, miserable person. I don't get the romantic hero love some fans seem to have for him. Y'all, Snape was a messed guy -- very messed up. I just love his obsessive mind and his complete self-control. My NaNo this year is a fanfic that follows Snape through his years as a Hogwarts student. I'm trying to keep as close to the source material as I can. I am so excited to get into his mind for a while.

Re: Harry Potter!

Itzika — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 14:28:25 -0600

Gotcha. :)

Re: Harry Potter!

BookWormVicky — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 15:35:28 -0600

Thank you :D I will definitely have a look, but maybe after November. It's nearly 10 on the first day and I have 0 words, I hope this doesn't become a trend... No problem :) Yeah, that's a major issue with reading xD Stupid sleep, it's pointless!

Re: Harry Potter!

MalcolmCooms — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 15:56:13 -0600

Hm, maybe. I guess it's a possibility that this was a model for the Houses, but I never thought of it that way at all. Then again, I'm American...although this IS the first time I've ver heard that theory.

Re: Harry Potter!

FrozenShadow52 — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 16:51:02 -0600

I will say one thing for Snape: he's a heck of a lot of fun to write/read about. Not a lot of authors can pull off that dry, snarky wit.

Re: Harry Potter!

SableScribe — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 17:15:42 -0600

I think it was more than that, if Snape was kind to Harry it would more than likely painted at large target on his back and would have alienated him from the "darker" parts of the book. While I can't say Snape was in the right a certain amount of animosity would have been required even if Harry had walking into Slytherin.

Re: Harry Potter!

SableScribe — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 17:17:24 -0600

Ain't that the truth!

Re: Harry Potter!

Paris and the Blue Jewel — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 20:53:15 -0600

The only downside is, when someone CAN'T pull it off and he's crucial to their plot, it's especially painful to read. xD

Re: Harry Potter!

Itzika — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 04:09:46 -0600

I do not follow your logic. Please explain. Which "him" are you referring to, and why is it necessary that he not be alienated from the "darker" parts of the book?

Re: Harry Potter!

Jessykuh — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:57:41 -0600

I have so many favorite characters. I adore the Weasleys. The first time I attempted reading the books, I was in the first grade and I would only read the parts where they mentioned a Weasley because I loved them all so much. I was weird. Then again, can you blame me? But specifically, I love the Weasley twins. And Ron and Hermione are my favorite ship of all time. Out of every couple I ship, Ron and Hermione top them all. Always. Also, I joined Pottermore awhile back and got Slytherin. So surprised but meh, learning to embrace my inner serpent. OH AND Snape = Yay!

Re: Harry Potter!

aizzleforizzle — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 21:00:44 -0600

Favorite Book: Prisoner of Azkaban I LOVED the clean, neat theme of the book as fear. And it always gives me super hope for Harry. Favorite Movie: Honestly, I don't like that many of the movies, but I did like the 8th DH Part 2. To me, it was the most well done, even though there were definitely parts that made me angry. Favorite Characters: SIRIUS BLACK. HAGRID. James Potter. Ron Weasley. The Twins. KREACHER. Snape: Mixed feelings. I get that he's got a tragic tale and he's all courageous spying on Voldemort, but to me that doesn't excuse the torment and bulling that he put Harry through.

Re: Harry Potter!

aizzleforizzle — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 21:15:58 -0600

Off topic but I freaking love your icon. Sugar Lumps!! <333 Jermaine. And totes agree with you on both "le marauders" and that Regulus is the true, but unfortunately overlooked hero.

Re: Harry Potter!

aizzleforizzle — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 21:18:49 -0600

Wait! How did I forget to add NEVILLE FREAKING LONGBOTTOM to my list of favorite characters???? Loved him since book 1. He's totes presh.

Re: Harry Potter!

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Re: Harry Potter!

Lycoris — Mon, 07 Nov 2011 16:33:34 -0700

Favorite book is PoA, hands down, but Sirius is my favorite character so... As for Snape, I'm both yay and boo. He was a horrible person, and I definitely don't think he deserved Lily in the slightest, but he was a brave man who did what was right in the end, even if it wasn't exactly for the best reasons. The series as a whole though is just amazing. Yes, the writing has flaws, but the characters are so full of life, and it definitely changed my life for the better. I think I learned more about life, death, and how to be a good person from these books than from anything else in my life.

Re: Harry Potter!

kaykav — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 18:35:36 -0700

Why doesn't anyone ever pick Harry as their favorite character? I mean, it seems pretty logical to me :P

Re: Harry Potter!

FrozenShadow52 — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 18:44:56 -0700

I can't speak for everyone else, but the reason Harry ranks pretty low on my list of favorites had a lot to do with his attitude. I can only handle so much angst, even when it's justifiable.

Re: Harry Potter!

kaykav — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 19:11:41 -0700

Yeah, people say that a lot. I never saw anything too horrible with his attitude...I mean, it's gotta suck dealing with puberty/everyone in school hating you/being orphaned/terrified about the fact that the most dangerous wizard alive has it in for you. Under the circumstances, I think Harry always behaved pretty rationally. He threw little fits every now and then during his fifth year, but he got over that pretty quickly. Not to mention his other more redeeming qualities, which have always made Harry by far my favorite character in a book ever.

Re: Harry Potter!

Taurois — Wed, 09 Nov 2011 11:13:44 -0700

I think it has more to do with the fact that he is the main character. You pretty much have to like him, but I think a lot of people want to like someone other than the central person. I mean we know the most about Harry out of anyone in the book, where as say one of my favorite characters, Fleur, we know very little about other than what is relevant to the story. Particularly with fanfiction writers as you can create more information for that person without deviating to far from canon if you wished it. That's my opinion at least.

Re: Harry Potter!

Paris and the Blue Jewel — Wed, 09 Nov 2011 22:27:08 -0700

I definitely wasn't too fond of Harry in the fifth book, and I distinctly recall after I read the sixth book that I thought it would be appropriate for Harry to die at the end. By the time I finished the seventh book, I liked him again. Now when I reread the fifth and sixth books, I'm not quite sure why I despised him so very much at the time... maybe it's different now that I know he matured? xP It's funny though, Harry is one of my top characters I write about in fanfiction. Of course he's never exactly like he is in the books, so maybe the reason I don't hate him anymore is because I can always fix whatever I don't like in the next fic I write. (For anyone who's curious, my other favorite character to use in fanfiction is Severus, who also makes for very interesting alterations.) Anyway, I think the other reason many people don't pick Harry as a favorite is because Rowling created so many other great characters (or characters who can be great if we add a little imagination to what we're given). Anyone who enjoys the books probably likes Harry by default (it's nearly impossible to read something if the point-of-view character drives you nuts), so it makes sense to me that people might look more into the background characters to find something that they don't share with literally every other Harry Potter fan ever.

Re: Harry Potter!

xxedwardxsakuraxx — Thu, 10 Nov 2011 08:34:15 -0700

I think it meant if Snape was kind to Harry Voldemort or the other Death Eaters might have been suspicious about it. Also when Voldemort was resurrected, he would've said to Snape: "Since you're so close to Harry bring him to me." Yeah, that would've been bad. Snape would have to give up his role as a spy and this Dumbledore's most reliable asset. Also, Snape might've been more proactive in protecting Harry. This would've completely changed the events in book one. The only reason Harry investigated the stone so much was because he suspected Snape. If Snape had been nice in the first place Harry would've trusted him. Thus Quirrel could have very well possible gotten his hands on the stone :O So it was kind of necessary to the plot for Snape to be kind of a D. xP

Re: Harry Potter!

Aneith — Thu, 10 Nov 2011 17:40:10 -0700

The reason I don't really care about canon Harry is because I can't relate to him. He was abused at the Dursleys, bullied and friendless at school until he went to Hogwarts, a psychopath who tried to kill him as baby, and that same psychopath and all his followers are obsessed with killing him. How the heck is he so well adjusted? Sure, he had some angst, but that's normal teenage behaviour. Not the behaviour normal for someone who has gone through what he has.

Re: Harry Potter!

MalcolmCooms — Thu, 10 Nov 2011 21:57:10 -0700

That's the point made in the sixth book though-The fact that he's so well-adjusted is what makes Harry remarkable.

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MalcolmCooms — Thu, 10 Nov 2011 22:00:10 -0700

To add to the favortie character discussion-Hagrid is DEFINITELY my favorite. I love pretty much every Hagrid scene. He's just...awesome. I also really love Luna. She's the type of girl I would have asked out were I at Hogwarts as a teenager, and I'm not ashamed to say that.

Re: Harry Potter!

Living_in_a_fantasy — Fri, 11 Nov 2011 11:12:16 -0700

I'm feeling really nostalgic about the series right now, since the final movie comes out today. Not nearly as bad as the midnight showing but still.

Re: Harry Potter!

Aneith — Fri, 11 Nov 2011 13:59:53 -0700

Yeah, but that doesn't make him relatable.

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MalcolmCooms — Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:08:22 -0700

At least it provides an explanation, though.

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Aneith — Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:14:03 -0700

I suppose it depends on the reader. Personally, I don't see anything remarkable about not having a problem. I'm much more impressed with people who have problems and deal with them.

Re: Harry Potter!

Sapphire2309 — Sat, 12 Nov 2011 08:08:04 -0700

The best book has to be Deathly Hallows. The best movie, hmm, between chamber of Secrets and DH part 2. Fave characters are Draco and Snape. Snape's character is amazingly deep!! I've read this one fanfiction where Dean breaks up with Ginny (before Half Blood Prince ending), Ginny is crying, and Luna walks up to Dean and says, "It's because you're gay, isn't it?" I can so totally see her doing that!!!! I love how so much is associated with the number 7 - 7 books, 7 years at Hogwarts, 7 Horcruxes, the 7 people who the 7th book is dedicated to, but unfortunately, eight movies =P

Re: Harry Potter!

Aneith — Sat, 12 Nov 2011 08:23:04 -0700

Don't forget the seven younger Weasleys and how is Ginny is the first Weasley girl to be born in seven generations.

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FrozenShadow52 — Sat, 12 Nov 2011 22:46:44 -0700

I actually related more to Ron and Hermione than I did Harry.

Re: Harry Potter!

MalcolmCooms — Sat, 12 Nov 2011 23:18:21 -0700

See, I didn't relate to Hermione at all. I like Hermione, but it started to annoy me (I think book five is when I really noticed this) when Hermione basically became flawless after the troll scene in book 1, pretty much. Think about it: Book 2, more or less singlehandedly figures out the secret of the basilisk and saves a girl's life. Book 3, has a fight with Ron about her cat where great pains are taken to portray Ron in a worse light than her, helps Hagrid with Buckbeak WHILE doing an insane amount of extra work, shows the most concern about Harry throughout the book, AND helps Harry rescue Sirius at the end. Book 4, she mediates between Harry and Ron and singlehandedly captures Rita Skeeter. She also helps Harry get through the first task by teaching him the summoning charm. Book 5, she is the one who gives Harry the smartest advice throughout the year. She is the only one who shows any kindness to Kreacher. She points out to Harry that Sirius is "living through them", because she's clever enough to deduce it from his personality. She comes up with the kick-ass jinxthat affects traitors who have signed the Dumbledore's Army paper. She gets Harry his interview with Sirius. She is the one who pointed out to Harry that he was about to make a big mistake by rushing to the Department of Mysteries because he had a "saving people thing". She is the one who saves them from Umbridge by leading her to the Forbidden Forest. Book 6, there's not as much. She gets in a big fight with Ron and acts quite vindictively, but once again great pains are taken to portray Ron in a worse light. She also comes the closest to figuring out the Half-Blood Prince's identity (at least she figured out where the "Prince" came from). Book 7, she is the one who uses every protective spell in every hideout, she brings all of the supplies in an easy to carry magical container, she is tortured but manages to keep all of the supplies anyway while giving away no information, she stays with Harry even after Ron leaves and saves them from Nagini, and she destroy's a horcrux (Harry and Ron do too, of course, it just adds to her litany of perfect). Plus, in the story of the three brothers, she's the only one wise enough to choose the invisibility cloak (at the time). I mean, I'm sorry, but the fact that she was awesome ALL THE TIME and basically NEVER wrong or at worst never MORE wrong than anybody else did annoy me. I felt as if Rowling went out of her way to make Hermione perfect after awhile. And weirdly, I STILL like Hermione.

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FrozenShadow52 — Sun, 13 Nov 2011 16:02:37 -0700

I kind of feel the same way. I relate to her(as I too was a bossy know-it-all as a kid), and like her a ton, but her being constantly "right" got really annoying. Yes, she's very clever, but no one can know everything all the time. I wonder--and this is just me throwing ideas out here--if her "perfectness" has something to do with Hermione being the only girl in the trio? I mean, if her and Ron's positions had been reversed, and he was the overly smart one while she was oblivious and clumsy, people would call Rowling a sexiest, wouldn't they? Could also have to do with Hermione being based of Rowling as a child, even if it's unintentional.

Re: Harry Potter!

MalcolmCooms — Sun, 13 Nov 2011 19:49:04 -0700

Yeah, there's always danger when the author tries to project themselves (even partially) into a character. It's hard to portray even a partial version of yourself negatively. And I think you make a good point about her being the only girl in the trio. It reminds me of the scene in the Wedding Crashers where one of the wedding crashers is tied up naked in a bedroom and forced to have sex with a girl. Now, this is rape. It's rape100%, non-negotiable. But it was played off for LAUGHS. It was a joke, and later the guy who was raped ends up going out with this girl in the "happy ending". If it was a girl who was tied up naked to a bed and forced to have sex with a guy, nobody would have thought of it as funny. They would have seen it for what it was-rape. And honestly, the fact that it WAS considered funny is actually a bit nauseating quite insulting to guys who were raped by women. I think, in a much more family-friendly way, it was much the same with Hermione. As the only girl, she could get away with being super-smart and solving all of the problems without anybody batting an eye. But if you switch Ron and Hermione's roles in the book you'd hear somebody cry "SEXIST!!!!" faster than Snape confronted with a bottle of shampoo.

Re: Harry Potter!

ADuvall — Sun, 13 Nov 2011 23:33:43 -0700

Book: Third. It was fun, and I liked learning about Harry's parents. Movie: Sixth. I looovveed how we got a better look at Draco and Tom Felton's acting. Characters: Snape, Sirius, Snape, Lupin, Snape, Albus, Snape, Fred&George, Snape, Snape.....Snape. Yay or Nay to Snape: .... See above. Also I am proud to admit I am in love with the HP series to the point of forever marring my flesh with an inked symbol from the final book.

Re: Harry Potter!

reckless.tenacity — Mon, 14 Nov 2011 00:05:30 -0700

Book: 6th and 7th. Movie: DH 1 and 2 Characters: Luna, Neville Ginny, Lupin, Tonks, Fred, George, and that guy in Book 4 who said, "I like a healthy dose of air around my privates!" which had me laughing so hard I couldn't pick the book back up for twenty minutes. Secretly, I am twelve years old. Um. I know everyone loves Snape. And he really is a very well-written character and everything and I know he's on the right side and all, but I just did not like Snape. Even there at the end, I felt for him, I was grateful to him, but I did not like him. He picks on a little kid because he's a bitter jealous jerk. He's unfair. He takes joy in others suffering. I know, I know, Dumbledore needed him to play double agent and all, but the stuff he did to Harry, and to other students that were not his own, he did because he's not a good person. Dumbledore had it right when he said the best of Snape was his feelings for Lily. There really is nothing else good about him. Also, he wanted her husband dead. Because he was picked on in high school. If he had lived while so many others died, I think I would have been furious. Please commence to throwing rotten fruit at me if you must. I have shielded myself. *hides*

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apocalypticangel47 — Mon, 14 Nov 2011 06:58:10 -0700

Snape *drools* Seriously, I'd marry him in a heartbeat. He was also a well-written character: no one really knew who he was until the very end... My favorite book of the series is probably the 5th, mainly because of the Snape scenes. The torture scene didn't please me, but it gave me insight, so it became an instant fave. Least Favorite: the 7th one *bawls* Favorite movie: the first ones before they started messing up. Least favorite: the 5th: seriously, longest book does not equal shortest movie...and they messed up the torture scene *pouts* Favorite Characters: Snape, Weasley twins, Dobby, Hedwig, and Neville Least Favorite: Umbridge, Harry, Filch (so hideous), and both Malfoys

Re: Harry Potter!

Paris and the Blue Jewel — Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:03:10 -0700

Haha, I used to reread just the Occlumency stuff out of the fifth book, over and over again. I'm guessing you have probably done that too!

Re: Harry Potter!

vmorr — Tue, 15 Nov 2011 08:31:59 -0700

I am definitely a fan!! Favourite book: I would say either book 3 or 7. Favourite movie: The second part of the Deathly Hallows was the best for me. It was faithful (more than most) to the book, and the special effects and acting dramatically improved throughout the films! Favourite characters: Severus Snape, Sirius Black and Molly Weasley. Snape: Yay or Boo?: I love the character of Snape! Who *doesn't* have a bad side to them?! Everyone has negative elements that motivate them. He is such a strong character, and his eternal love for a character who can't reciprocate his feelings is heart-breaking. I love everything about him. I also feel like Snape is one of the most 'rea'l characters, in that the reader is shown so many snippets of his past compared to a lot of the other characters. He also has so many aspects to his character/personality that he is almost impossible to gage throughout many of the books - that too, is very human.

Re: Harry Potter!

vmorr — Tue, 15 Nov 2011 08:38:08 -0700

I can totally see your points about Snape being a jerk, and generally a mean person, but I don't think he is 'bad' either. He was cast as the 'flawed hero' or whatever, but his feelings for Lily are what keeps him from being a bad person. I believe that someone with those depths of feeling for another person, and someone who risks their own life, could be considered a really bad person. If you had the full story of any character, there would be incidents of bullying, cutting remarks, and actions which would be frowned upon. If I had lived through what Snape had (poverty as a child, lack of a father figure, taunting at school, losing the woman he loved) I would probably be bitter too! And don't we all (to some extent) enjoy seeing our enemies suffer a bit if we think they deserve it? I am only glad that Snape died so that more of him was revealed. I wouldn't go so far as to cast him as a hero, or a great person, but he makes a great character, and his strength surely has to be recognised.

Re: Harry Potter!

Purrabella — Tue, 15 Nov 2011 16:59:50 -0700

Favorite Book: Prisoner of Azkaban Favorite Movie: Order of the Phoenix Favorite Characters: ((in no particular order)) Albus Dumbledore, Severus Snape, Remus Lupin, Luna Lovegood Snape? Total yay. I especially found myself relating to the pain of his penseive memory in OoTP

Re: Harry Potter!

Aneith — Wed, 16 Nov 2011 11:55:25 -0700

I also really like Luna. She's the kind of girl I was/am.

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Aneith — Wed, 16 Nov 2011 12:03:48 -0700

I find it very easy to portray partial versions of myself negatively... That may just be me though. I totally agree with this. I think the characters would have to be totally flat and boring for people not to try to attach agendas to the story. Also, Hermione might always be right and effective, so problems can be waved away with "Hermione did it."

Re: Harry Potter!

Mistress Lrigtar — Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:44:19 -0700

[quote=MalcolmCooms] That's the point made in the sixth book though-The fact that he's so well-adjusted is what makes Harry remarkable. [/quote] I think Rowling wanted Harry and Voldemort to have relatively the same upbringing but turn out to be two completely different halves of the same coin. One half an insane, totally evil wizard and the other half the extreme opposite - a wizard so saintlike, it's almost unbelievable. I think it's that simple. She wanted to keep it very black and white. That's what is fun about fan fiction - the writers can go in and mess Harry or any of the other characters up as much as they want and make them behave the way they think they should be behaving. I'd say Ron and Harry are my favorite characters. I've read some fan fiction that has portrayed Ron as a real jerk and Harry treats him like dirt. I don't get the Ron bashing fics. Ron had some issues, but honestly can anyone blame him? How can he not help but feel jealous of Harry? I think he needs to be cut some slack.

Re: Harry Potter!

ashybear — Thu, 17 Nov 2011 23:27:57 -0700

Favourite book: Prisoner of Azkaban (it always has and always will be my absolute favourite. And I see that it is a lot of other people's favourite too) Favourite movie: Half-Blood Prince (okay, okay, I like all the Ron/Hermione tension) Favourite characters: Sirius Black, Ron Weasley, Remus Lupin, Tonks, Fred Weasley, Lavender Brown (Sirius has been my favourite since book 3. I cry like a baby whenever I read his death. I adore Ron and he's probably my favourite in the movies. Remus...best DADA teacher ever! Freddie!!! My favourite of the twins. I always had a soft spot for Lavender. Ever since book one.) Snape - Yay or Boo? Yay! He was a true hero in he end.

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ashybear — Thu, 17 Nov 2011 23:29:15 -0700

Words cannot express my love for Sirius. It's just beyond anything!

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Aneith — Fri, 18 Nov 2011 22:51:00 -0700

Actually, Voldemort and Harry didn't have the same upbringing. True, they were both half-blood orphans raised by muggles, but the books make it pretty darn clear that the worst thing in the orphanage was Voldemort.

Re: Harry Potter!

midwinter-mist — Fri, 18 Nov 2011 23:18:21 -0700

HOLD THE FUCK UP. OH MY ROWLING. I just realised the person who played Barty Crouch Jr in Goblet of Fire was David Tennant. (Yes, slow on the uptake, I know...) And I have to say I don't really have a favourite book. My favourite characters are Ron, Luna, Sirius and Remus.

Re: Harry Potter!

Paris and the Blue Jewel — Sat, 19 Nov 2011 10:35:31 -0700

You've got a point. I'm pretty sure Harry never used his magic as a child to compel people to do things, or to hurt people... otherwise he wouldn't have been with the Dursleys very long! xD But I think the point is maybe to have some parallels, where the main difference is the personality of the characters. At least, we know Harry sees some parallels and it freaks him out.

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October Sea Breeze — Sat, 19 Nov 2011 12:08:19 -0700

Book: Deathly Hallows :3 Film: Prisoner of Azkaban Favourite Character: Greyback, Scabior (the book one) & Antonin Dolohov :3(I have something with the DEs) Snape... hmm, I've mixed feelings about Snape and if we have to be honest, from the 1st book on you realize that Snape is a good guy if you think about it...

Re: Harry Potter!

Mistress Lrigtar — Sat, 19 Nov 2011 14:00:11 -0700

Oh, no doubt that Voldemort is a bully to the other orphans, and I think he was born without a 'soul', but I guess my main point was that Harry and Voldemort are extreme opposites, but with a similar background.

Re: Harry Potter!

MalcolmCooms — Sat, 19 Nov 2011 14:44:00 -0700

A "good guy"? We know he's on the right side but he's a jerk the entire series!

Re: Harry Potter!

MalcolmCooms — Sat, 19 Nov 2011 14:45:50 -0700

I don't know about you, but I don't consider Harry "Saintlike". Remarkable, yes, but a very human character.

Re: Harry Potter!

MalcolmCooms — Sat, 19 Nov 2011 14:46:21 -0700

...Although, to be clear, I agree with your overall point.

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Emma_Sunshine — Sat, 19 Nov 2011 16:28:28 -0700

Favourite book: Will everyone hate me if I say all of them ;) IF I had to pick one I'd probably have to be PoA though I love DH Favourite movie? Deathly Hallows 1 AND 2 Who are your favourite characters? Hermione definitely is my favourite character. I also love Luna and Lily. I'm a huge Jily shipper don't even get me started. Snape: Yay or Boo? BOO! *mob of angry fans start to chase me* I really don't like Snape. Sure what he did was great but really I think it would have been a bigger sacrifice for him to pursue a healthy lifestyle instead of this weird infatuation with Lily. He is the epitome of ending on a high note but what about the previous 6 and a half books where he is a total jerk! Especially to Neville. Gah I just don't like him. Sorry Snivellus.

Re: Harry Potter!

Aneith — Sat, 19 Nov 2011 17:55:50 -0700

Maybe. Personally, I see more parallels between Harry and Snape since they're both half-bloods who were abused.

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Mistress Lrigtar — Sat, 19 Nov 2011 18:36:08 -0700

Compared to Voldemort he is. If the wizarding world had a religion, Harry would be made a saint at some point in time no doubt.

Re: Harry Potter!

MalcolmCooms — Sat, 19 Nov 2011 18:44:52 -0700

Compared to Voldemort, the hunter who killed Bambi is a Saint. Just because the wizarding world *thinks* Harry's perfect doesn't mean he is. We've read the books. We have inside information, and Harry is a flawed, human character.

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Sapphire2309 — Sun, 20 Nov 2011 01:25:00 -0700

ooh thanks! i missed that

Re: Harry Potter!

Kaserl — Mon, 21 Nov 2011 00:35:36 -0700

Favorite Book: Deathly Hallows Movie:Either the first or the last. Accuracy or Epicness? Characters:Ron(SO UNDERSTATED IN THE MOVIES), Luna(I believe in Nargles. Completely), Neville(DHp2? Am I the only one who walked out saying "Neville. Oh my god, Neville!" over and over again?), Hermione(intelligent girls!), Hannah Abbott(I'm so much like her it's a little bit scary), Ginny(in the books, she's pretty useless in the movies), Tonks(try to argue that she isn't awesome. Come on, try.), Seamus(for some reason I just love this kid. Maybe the movies contributed slightly to that), Dobby(how did it take me this long to think of Dobby? I came close to crying when he died. And only two movies have ever made me cry. They were DHp1 and DHp2, Dobby and Snape.), Snape(not so much because of him himself, but because he is like the ultimate 3D character, in the sense that he actually has depth and everything, and a whole lot of gray areas. So, I love him as a writer), Pretty much everyone. Except for the Death Eaters, because I really hate them.... Shows how good the writing is. Snape: He's a jerk, but a good person at heart. Now, if he just showed it more.... I'm a Hufflepuff by the way. That's where the similarities to Hannah Abbott start. And trust me, if you know me, they go a long long way.

Re: Harry Potter!

Kaserl — Mon, 21 Nov 2011 00:38:22 -0700

*facepalm* HOW DID I FORGET FRED AND GEORGE!!! They are way up there on the list, probably in the top five as one combined character, and one of them would be in the top five no matter what, but I have trouble picking between them. I usually lean slightly towards Fred. WHY!!!!

Re: Harry Potter!

Kaserl — Mon, 21 Nov 2011 00:40:24 -0700

Wasn't that guy named Archie? No, resist the urge to go check, I don't care if you know exactly where it is.....

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mandiiminx — Mon, 21 Nov 2011 04:14:42 -0700

Fave book is Goblet of Fire, favourite film ... Hm I'd say the first two but now I am older I like Half Blood Prince best. Fave character has always been Ron. Snape: yay. For sure. He is all kinds of awesome

Re: Harry Potter!

mandiiminx — Mon, 21 Nov 2011 04:16:32 -0700

Oh and Dumbledore is one of my fave characters. I cried when he died in the book , and he ended up being such a complex and interesting character. I was very impressed with Rowling lol.

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Kittypetro — Mon, 21 Nov 2011 13:48:19 -0700

Favorite Book: Goblet of fire Favorite Movie: Deathly Hallows pt 2 Favorite Characters: Luna, Hermione, Ginny, Bellatrix Snape: Boo Love on Harry Potter, hufflepuff pride ftw

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BriiMarie — Mon, 21 Nov 2011 19:45:26 -0700

I tend to lean towards George whenever I think about the twins ever since I read this essay/article somewhere online where this person looked up all of the dialogue of the twins and most of the scenes where they mentioned and had a sort of statistical listing that showed Fred was more of the leader of the two and the one often to make the crueler remarks to others (or start the cruel jokes). Going on that info, I kind of pitied George the more after Fred's death, and just generally liked him better (although Fred is certainly awesome in his own rights).

Re: Harry Potter!

madrugada — Mon, 21 Nov 2011 19:50:25 -0700

Favorite Book: Goblet of Fire, then Prisoner of Azkaban, then Half-Blood Prince (and I love all the others, too) Favorite Movie: Half-Blood Prince, Deathly Hallows Part 1, Deathly Hallows Part 2 (to be honest, I don't like any of the other movies very much) Favorite Character: Dumbledore is, to me, everything I love in a character. Quirky, kind, interesting, flawed, silly, serious, knowledgeable, a great teacher, a great listener... gah I just love him. Also totally adore Neville, Luna, Hermione, Harry, Mr. Weasley, Moody, and Slughorn.

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metteius — Mon, 21 Nov 2011 20:59:48 -0700

Favourite book: Order of the Phoenix Favourite movie: Ohhh that's tricky... I think I'll go with Order of the Phoenix there too Favourite characters: Minerva McGonagall, Hedwig, Hermione Granger, Ginny Weasley, Luna Lovegood Snape - Yay or Boo? : I think in the end it's a definite yay, although I had a love/hate relationship with him throughout the whole series. I'm rereading the whole series actually. Started back in August I think, and because I've had uni and with NaNo and all, I've only just started reading The Halfblood Prince again. I'm actually really excited to read it because I remember when the movie came out, I couldn't remember anything from the book other than the beginning in the Prime Minister's office and the fact that Dumbledore died. So it's kind of like reading it for the first time :D Although technically it's my second haha.

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keeptheotherone — Tue, 22 Nov 2011 03:35:25 -0700

Favorite Book: I can never decide between "Philosopher's Stone" and "Half-Blood Prince." Favorite Movie: "Half-Blood Prince," hands down; even if it is a lousy adaptation. Favorite Characters: Ginny, Lupin, McGonagall, and the Trio (in no particular order after Ginny) Snape: Boo. Sorry, Snape fans, loving Lily doesn't excuse his hatred of Harry; in my opinion, it makes it worse. Although I will say I didn't believe Snape was a traitor, and I was right :) I'm constantly rereading the books by listening to them on CD; hearing the dialogue acted out is a lot of fun! Currently I'm on "Order of the Phoenix." My NaNo novel is a HP fanfic, set the summer between "Chamber of Secrets" and "Prisoner of Azkaban." Check out my synopsis and excerpts; I still need a title and would love any suggestions fellow fans have to offer!

Re: Harry Potter!

keeptheotherone — Tue, 22 Nov 2011 06:40:16 -0700

[quote=keeptheotherone] My NaNo novel is a HP fanfic, set the summer between "Chamber of Secrets" and "Prisoner of Azkaban." Check out my synopsis and excerpts; I still need a title and would love any suggestions fellow fans have to offer! [/quote] Whoops, forgot to say it's about the Weasleys' trip to Egypt, specifically how Ginny deals with the events of "Chamber" but from Bill's POV (mostly).

Re: Harry Potter!

Mistress Lrigtar — Tue, 22 Nov 2011 08:46:46 -0700

Speaking of the Half Blood Prince and comparing the book to the movie. Does anyone else have a problem with what they did with Harry's character at the end of the movie. It has been a major pet peeve of mine that he basically just stands there and does nothing to help Dumbledore. At least in the book he had a reason, but I don't see any justification in the movie, aside from a verbal promise to Dumbledore. But, I feel in a situation like that, Harry would break his promise before allowing Dumbledore to be killed in cold blood and not lifting a finger to help.

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Emma_Sunshine — Tue, 22 Nov 2011 13:26:42 -0700

Agreed!

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BriiMarie — Tue, 22 Nov 2011 15:40:36 -0700

I think (going from memory from last time seeing movie a few months ago) that Harry was readying to assist Dumbledore since he had his wand pointing through that metal thingy at the Death Eaters before Snape somehows magically "draws" Harry's wand and attention to him and puts his finger to his lips (seriously I have always been curious what kind of spell Snape was using there). Harry then decides to trust Snape which backfires too fast for Harry to do anything really.

Re: Harry Potter!

MalcolmCooms — Tue, 22 Nov 2011 18:32:40 -0700

HOLY CRAP the "Like if you want a book 8" Harry Potter fan page had a quote from Rowling where she said she will pick up the series where it left off. Will verify as soon as possible (although it seems legitimate). This might make my life.

Re: Oops

MalcolmCooms — Tue, 22 Nov 2011 18:55:51 -0700

Sorry if I excited people (like myself) guys. I'm gullible, this is a false rumor, because I checked. "Stupidity isn't a virus, but it sure is spreadin' like one!" -Sandy Cheeks, Spongebob

Re: Oops

Aneith — Tue, 22 Nov 2011 19:07:05 -0700

No worries. I would jump at a rumour like that too. *sigh* At least there's fanfiction.

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Mistress Lrigtar — Tue, 22 Nov 2011 20:15:16 -0700

I suppose. I always wondered why Harry would suddenly 'trust' Snape when the entire movie he's going on about how Snape is helping Malfoy. It's one of the problems with the movies I think that they expect the viewer to have read the books and understand what is going on without having to actually explain anything. Goblet is a big offender in my opinion of that.

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angonzo — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 12:32:10 -0700

Okay, so I'm writing some Harry Potter fanfiction. Its AU after OOtP. I'm trying to find a creative way to kill off Voldemort without Horcruxes. My thought right now kind of bases itself around the relationship between Voldemort and Nagini, that there is some sort of soul/power center created there, which Harry will use to rid the Dark Lord once and for all. Intriguing? Sound stupid? Any suggestions? Ideas?

Re: Harry Potter!

keeptheotherone — Thu, 24 Nov 2011 00:13:37 -0700

[quote=angonzo] Okay, so I'm writing some Harry Potter fanfiction. Its AU after OOtP. I'm trying to find a creative way to kill off Voldemort without Horcruxes. My thought right now kind of bases itself around the relationship between Voldemort and Nagini, that there is some sort of soul/power center created there, which Harry will use to rid the Dark Lord once and for all. Intriguing? Sound stupid? Any suggestions? Ideas? [/quote] Hmm, like Nagini's soul and Voldemort's soul are tied together? Kill one and you kill them both? The immediate problems that come to mind are: how did this happen? What kind of protection has Voldemort given Nagini to protect her life? How does Harry get around those protections? If you can find interesting ways to address those, I think it has potential!

Re: Harry Potter!

angonzo — Thu, 24 Nov 2011 09:38:11 -0700

That's definitely where I'm going with it. I think I'll definitely have to go back and add in several scenes about this throughout the fic, just so then it won't be so sudden. I've had them invent a potion along the lines of Veritaserum, so I want to utilize that as well. Thanks! I hope it isn't as lame as I thought it was going to be originally!

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Paris and the Blue Jewel — Thu, 24 Nov 2011 09:48:05 -0700

You also should remember to take into account the diary in Chamber of Secrets. Either it could be Voldemort's attempt at a Horcrux that he abandoned, or you could come up with some other explanation.

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Bewitched.Rhapsody — Fri, 25 Nov 2011 19:02:05 -0700

Opinions, anyone? Is it just me, or does Snape remind you so much of Sydney Carton from A Tale of Two Cities? And if you don't see what I mean and haven't read A Tale of Two Cities, do so right now. He gave up his life for Harry (for Lily) in the end. Even though Lily married the man he hated. And Sydney did too. D: They both start out kind of bad. Sydney's not really pleasant, but he changes. So does Snape. Then they give up so much for the women they love, but their love is never returned. My little rant is over. XD So what do you guys think?

Re: Harry Potter!

MalcolmCooms — Fri, 25 Nov 2011 22:31:46 -0700

No, not at all. Carton saved Darnay. Snape didn't care whether or not Lily was actually happy, because he didn't care if James (who made her happy) died. Actually, Carton is an excellent example for people to use on why they DON'T like Snape. Carton was willing to die and let the girl he loved live with another man in order for her to be happy. Snape didn't care about the pain it would cause Lily if James were dead; he couldn't have cared less. He only wanted Lily for himself. That said, Snape's subsequent protection of Harry showed massive remorse, a big redeeming quality, although there is legitimate debate about whether or not that justifies the way he treats people. But I still think Carton was ultimately better than Snape. His love for Lucie was so great that he was not only willing to let her marry another man but actually sacrificed his life in order to make that scenario possible so that Lucie would be happy. Snape wanted Lily for himself and didn't really care about the pain that would result if James (or even Harry) died. And while his remorse is a redeeming quality, it's remorse over his actions that caused Lily's death, not remorse over actions that caused James' death. His protection of Harry is indeed because he knew that Lily would want Harry to be protected, however, and that can't be forgotten in an analysis of Snape. But he only feels this way because he feels it is the best way to honor Lily's memory; if Lily were still alive I don't really think Snape would care much about Harry's happiness if he could find a way to "get" (it's a creepy sounding phrase, I know, but it's the best I can think of) Lily. Carton, on the other hand, will readily let others make Lucie happy if he knows they'll make her happier than he would. And that's a crucial difference. (BTW, I love Sydney Carton. With the bland boringness of Lucie and Darnay, he saves the book. I suppose Dr. Manette is kind of interesting as well, but not nearly as interesting as Carton.)

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Bewitched.Rhapsody — Sat, 26 Nov 2011 07:53:12 -0700

Lol! I agree. Lucie's actions in the book can be summarized as such: Lucie: Cries, faints, swoons. [Hey, but I look pretty, eh?] Darnay is just kind of... hullo I am perfectly gentlemanly. You know you like me. Carton really did make the book for me. Although I like to think that the reason why Snape and Carton are similar is because in the end, they both did it because of their love for the women. And they both gave up their lives for that reason. There's still differences, as Snape doesn't particularly like Harry. But I think at the end, he kind of reaches a sort of acknowledgment with Harry in the books (I am not referring to the movie here) as he's dying. This is subject to interpretation, I suppose. ^_^ I guess this depends on how you view Snape. Did his actions towards the end justify his actions from the past? Yeah, I'd say they do.

Re: Harry Potter!

Bewitched.Rhapsody — Sat, 26 Nov 2011 07:54:40 -0700

Hey hey hey! They both fell in love with girls whose names start with the letter "L"! XD There's some similarity right there! ... Okay. I cracked myself up... this could say something potentially bad about myself...

Re: Harry Potter!

lunadobby — Sat, 26 Nov 2011 11:10:14 -0700

Favorite book: Harry Potter and the prisoner of Azkaban Favorite movie: Harry Potter and the goblet of fire, because Daniel Radcliffe looks the best in this movie =P and Cedric dies Favorite character: Luna Lovegood, I love her because shes so weird and different Snape: Yay or Boo? Boo, until I went to see HP 7 part 2. I had read the books, but he just didn't feel nice at all. But the movie was just so sad!

Re: Harry Potter!

blue_eyes_1990 — Mon, 23 Jan 2012 08:29:17 -0700

Favorite book: Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (because Lupin and Sirius are two of my favs), but the Half Blood Prince is up there too, mainly because JK gets into Voldemorts past which I enjoyed learning about Favorite movie: Prisoner of Azkaban Favorite character: I cant just choose one...Sirius, Remus, Luna, and Dumbledore Snape: I didnt like him being so mean in the first few books, until we got to finally understand more about him and his love for Lily, and the part when we see his patronus is the same as Lilys and he says "always" was when he went from Boo to Yay for me :)

Re: Harry Potter!

miniwriter — Mon, 23 Jan 2012 14:12:43 -0700

Ahh I can't believe I didn't notice this thread earlier! Favorite Book: I would have to say either Sorcerers Stone, or Order of the Pheonix. As for the movie... Both Deathly Hallows. I'm probably biased considering I saw both at midnight showings, but... Favorite Character: I have many, but here's my top six. Fred and George, Snape, Draco, Hermione, and Luna. And Snape is a total yay. I really loved how you could see his character change.

Re: Harry Potter!

mattskywalker — Tue, 24 Jan 2012 07:49:15 -0700

I had a dream last night that J.K. Rowling released a new edition of Sorcerer's Stone with an extra chapter. It was strange.

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nevillegirl — Thu, 26 Jan 2012 15:36:44 -0700

Favorite book: Prisoner of Azkaban Favorite movie: Deathly Hallows Part 1 Favorite characters (more or less in order): Lupin(!!!!!!!), Sirius, Snape, *Bellatrix*, Dumbledore, McGonagall, Tonks, Dobby, Luna, and Mad-Eye. I think Dobby really was important; he wasn't the Jar-Jar Binks of the HP world. Snape: YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

Re: Harry Potter!

nevillegirl — Thu, 26 Jan 2012 15:39:26 -0700

[quote=golfgal08] I just picked up Book 1 again; I haven't read any of them in ages. My favorite book is Prisoner of Azkaban. I'm not entirely sure why, and maybe going through and re-reading the entire series from start to finish as an adult would change my opinion on that, but.... *shrug* My favorite movie is Deathly Hallows Part 1. I think they did a really good job of sticking to the plot of the book, for the most part, and it was just... well, it was that movie where they transitioned from being kids into being adults. I'm not a shipper, but I thought the scene with Harry and Hermione dancing in the tent was terribly cute, in the "you're my best friend, please cheer up" sense. I could so easily picture Sirius having done something like that with Lily, once upon a time. My favorite character is... well, I'm not sure. In a lot of ways, I like the concepts of certain characters more than the actual characters themselves. I suppose that's a side effect of spending years and years in the Harry Potter fandom. [/quote] I think a major treason I like POA is that my favorite characters include Sirius and Lupin. :D I also thought DH1 did an excellent job of telling the story and sticking to the plot. At first, I though Harry and Hermione's dance was weird, but now I see it differently. I think it's the sort of thing Harry would do.

Re: Harry Potter!

nevillegirl — Thu, 26 Jan 2012 15:42:00 -0700

[quote=Aquadestiny] I'm an adult Harry Potter fan that grew up with the series {I was 11 when I got Philosopher's Stone for Christmas the year it was published} and still adore re-reading the books even today. My favourite book in the series is still Prisoner of Azkaban simply because the plot twists are so beautifully written and the last scenes in the book hold so much emotion for Harry and Sirius because Harry believes that he's going to get a chance to escape life with the Dursleys forever. It's also the book that introduces Lupin. Speaking of whom; Lupin is my favourite character in the series because he's the paternal figure that's been missing in Harry's life. He's the one to offer support, both educationally and emotionally and is the only adult who truly treats Harry as the person that he is {Sirius saw too much of James in Harry and Molly is a touch too overprotective}. I was disappointed that we never got to see his death in Deathly Hallows, but maybe that's not such a bad thing, after all there was a war going on and pointless deaths are par for the course. Plus Harry simply wasn't present when it happened. I'm not as attached to the movies as the books, but I feel Deathly Hallows part 2 was a very fitting end to the franchise. It packed such a wallop emotionally that I sat and cried during the reveal of Snape's memories and when Harry willingly sacrificed his life to protect everyone else. Plus all the scenes just clicked along at a lovely pace and I never once felt that it skipped out on anything, nor did I think it dragged at any point. The other movies had massive problems with pacing and I think that will become even more evident when the DVD/Bluray comes out and people start marathoning the movies. [/quote] YES. Maybe that explains why I love Lupin so much..... and I've always thought that Harry wanted Sirius as a dad, but really, Lupin was more of a father to him. And you also explained why I love POA.... :D

Re: Harry Potter!

MalcolmCooms — Sun, 29 Jan 2012 21:36:51 -0700

I can understand that, what I'm trying to get across is that this is more of a reader preference than an author mistake, because Rowling was well aware of the fact that Harry was so well-adjusted. She didn't overlook anything, it was her plan from the start, so it wasn't a "mistake" in that sense. I get wanting a character with more conflict, but what I'm saying is that Rowling consciously made the choice to create a character who was remarkable in the sense that he had very little "mental scarring", comparatively, from his experiences. It wasn't overlooked.

Re: Harry Potter!

MalcolmCooms — Sun, 29 Jan 2012 22:33:12 -0700

Okay, forget the term Mary Sue then and just think of the phrase "too perfect" while I respond (that's technically a nonsensical phrase but you know what I mean). . They found the next horcrux completely by accident-Hermione didn't do anything wrong. In fact, the entire quest would have been lost if Hermione hadn't transfigured Harry, hidden the magic bag in her sock, and resisted horrific torture. The fact that this ultimately led to them finding a horcrux was not a consequence of not following Hermione's advice. It was pure luck. . The plan NEARLY failed. It didn't. . Okay, my point here is that Hermione is always portrayed as the "best" of the trio. So Hermione forgetting about Bellatrix's wand doesn't make her worse than than Harry or Ron because they forgot it too. Harry was able to cast the imperius curse because he was in good position to do it and because he had Griphook hissing in his ear. Of course, I'm willing to give Harry credit on that, but Hermione didn't mess up, and she still does most of the important stuff for the trio. . The dragon thing-yeah, Harry thought of it. Point granted. On the other hand, Hermione rescued them from Nagini, made every protective spell at every hideout, had the foresight to realize that Grimmauld Place was no longer safe and even thought of another, more remote location (Forest of Dean), and stayed loyal with Harry even when Ron (who she clearly was falling for) left. . Hermione's lack of acceptance that wands have loyalties was A) completely logical, since she had no personal evidence to the contrary and the logical evidence would point to the idea that a wizard's a wizard whatever the wand and, B) Had basically no practical impact on the story at all. . Hermione didn't find a single horcrux. And? Neither did Ron. They all came to the conclusion that the locket was Kreacher's at the same time, and they came to the conclusion that it belonged to Umbridge likewise, and they had a three-pronged plan to get the horcrux that involved all three of them. . Harry was led to the sword of Gryffindor by Snape. . Okay, Ron thought of the basilisk fang and replicated Harry's hiss. Least he could do after deserting them. . You really think she only destroyed the cup because Ron said she should have a turn? Sure, he made that remark offhandedly, but I think it was shown in the destruction of the locket that that's not how destroying horcruxes works normally. The horcrux will try and fight back. Ron destroyed the locket because Harry innately "knew" he had to, and I would imagine that that would be the only good reason Hermione specifically would destroy the cup-otherwise why would Ron, knowing the horcrux's power, even risk letting Hermione do it if he could take the risk himself? Because destroying horcruxes is such a fun experience? I wrote a longer post on this later in the thread, but I stand by my opinions.

Re: Harry Potter!

Keslie Neill-Writer — Mon, 30 Apr 2012 13:14:43 -0600

Considering Harry Potter is my favorite series of all time I could talk about for hours (and I do if it happens to come up in conversation), but I'll save you my fangirling and just answer the questions. Favorite book: Prisoner of Azkaban(I love how full of twists that book was and Lupin is just awesome). FAvorite movie: Deathly Hallows(I count both movies as one) and Chamber of Secrets, although I've kinda over-watched it lately. Characters" Hermionie, Ron and Luna Snape: i wouldn't say he's even close to my top characters, but from a literary stand point I think he's a brilliant character.

Re: Harry Potter!

frenziedmythology — Tue, 01 May 2012 07:41:07 -0600

Favorite book: Order of the Pheonix or The Half-Blood Prince (I think that was the sixth) favorite movie: Order of the Phoenix Favorite characters: Ron, Luna, Snape Snape: YAY One thing I didn't like about...which movie...one, I think, was that it made Ron seem like a jerk. In the book, Hermione was trying to get Snape to call on her to answer a question, but when he didn't Hermione just blurted the answer out. Now in the book, when Snape said "Don't act like a know-it-all" (Or something like that) Ron said "But she knew the answer!" And in the movie, Ron said to Hermione, "He's got a point, you know!" To me, Ron and Harry's friendship seemed a whole lot faker in the movies. *Shrugs* Could just be me, though :D

Re: Harry Potter!

UnicornEmma — Wed, 02 May 2012 01:02:36 -0600

Favorite book: DH. Then PoA, OotP, etc. I don't like the movies. Favorite character: Remus and Snape. Yes, they count as my favorite character. I don't ship them, but they are one. Snape: Clearly YAY. I've loved him from the end of the first book, when we found out he had been protecting Harry from Quirrellmort all year. After reading HBP, I doubted him for a few hours while I grieved and panicked and all that, but pretty quickly came to the realization that he could be trusted after all - and debated with anyone who would listen right up until DH was released. I was called a stupid badboy-fangirl, ridiculous, blind, etc., and listened to countless people bash Snape and my love for him/trust in him. From that, I tend to hold contempt for people who love him NOW that Harry knows how brave and awesome he was. Part of me wants to say you aren't a real Snape fan if you only started loving him after The Prince's Tale. Iknowitisirrationalleavemealone. And I'm a Harmony shipper. I never thought they'd end up together, it was very clear to me which direction JKR was taking ship-wise, but I still think Harry/Hermione would have been better than Harry/Ginny and Hermione/Ron. Actually, my main ship was Harry/Hermione/Ron, but whatever. :D

Re: Harry Potter!

UnicornEmma — Wed, 02 May 2012 01:04:49 -0600

I'm a Ravenclaw, got wit beyond measure, I can catch a Snitch like it's caught up in a tether.

Re: Harry Potter!

keolah — Wed, 02 May 2012 10:38:45 -0600

Personally, I'd love to see a Harry Potter sedoretu fic. I'd write it myself, but I'm in the middle of a massive time travel saga at the moment, heh. (If you don't know what that is, google it, I can't describe it concisely without just copy/pasting.) I can see Harry/Hermione/Ron/Ginny (No, that does not imply incest), and James/Lily/Remus/Sirius, for instance.

Re: Harry Potter!

mystic-mayhem — Thu, 03 May 2012 23:00:28 -0600

Favorite Book: Goblet of Fire or Half-Blood Prince Favorite Movie: Deathly Hallows pt. 1 Characters: SEVERUS SNAPE. ALWAYS. Sirius, Tom Riddle (his backstory. god.), Fred/George, Bellatrix, and Dumbledore. Been rping the first two for years. Snape: I'm a bit too in love with him judging by the fact that he's a fictional character. I regret nothing. I could go on about him forever. His backstory is absolutely amazing, and looking upon the entire series there are reasons why he was such an ass in the beginning. I ship so much HP. There's Snape/Lily, Snape/OC, Sirius/Lily, Luna/Hermione.... the list goes on, but for roleplay and fanfic I prefer Marauders' Era and I nearly always rp Snape, or have him as a main character in my fics. I'm currently contemplating writing a series of journal entries dating back from when Sevvy darling was about six, moving forward to his death, but it's so close to June and I don't know if I can handle that, rp, and planning my June NaNovel.

Re: Harry Potter!

nevillegirl — Mon, 07 May 2012 08:24:21 -0600

[quote=UnicornEmma] Part of me wants to say you aren't a real Snape fan if you only started loving him after The Prince's Tale. Iknowitisirrationalleavemealone. [/quote] Haha... I only liked him after TPT, but I'd given up deciding whether he was good or evil by about book 2. I figured we'd learn sometime...

Re: Harry Potter!

nevillegirl — Mon, 07 May 2012 08:26:13 -0600

[quote=Bewitched.Rhapsody] Opinions, anyone? Is it just me, or does Snape remind you so much of Sydney Carton from A Tale of Two Cities? And if you don't see what I mean and haven't read A Tale of Two Cities, do so right now. He gave up his life for Harry (for Lily) in the end. Even though Lily married the man he hated. And Sydney did too. D: They both start out kind of bad. Sydney's not really pleasant, but he changes. So does Snape. Then they give up so much for the women they love, but their love is never returned. My little rant is over. XD So what do you guys think? [/quote] Oh yes yes YES. :) I love that book too!

Re: Harry Potter!

Sherza — Tue, 08 May 2012 22:50:36 -0600

Which is your favourite book?: I don't really like one book more than another, but Prisoner of Azkaban comes closest. Which is your favourite movie?: 7.5, all the way. Badass Neville, Snape's life flashbacks, drunk-off-his-ass Lucius, that hilariously awkward Voldemort/Draco hug, and Draco being a /complete/ mamma's boy and holding her hand as they booked it the heck out of Hogwarts. What's NOT to like? Who are your favourite characters?: Snape all the way, baby, followed closely by Sirius and Neville. Snape: Yay or Boo? HUGE Yay. The things I hate/have issues with. 1) Dumbledore: I don't care what JKR says, the man is either straight-up evil, manipulative as heck, or completely senile. It's the only explanation for the completely stupid insanities he pulls. Leaving a kid on a doorstep? In November? WTF? And then never once checking on him? Sending him BACK into an abusive situation when Dumbledore KNEW it was abusive? Ummm ... excuse me while I get the torches and pitchforks. Letting Sirius rot in Azkaban without a trial? (He had the power to do something about that). Never telling Harry *anything* until it was three days too late, and in more than one instance, someone paid for it in blood or their life? Trying to force Harry into playing nice/respecting/trusting Snape when Snape was being a complete bastard? Yeah, no. 2) Hermione: As someone else said, the girl is NEVER wrong. She runs roughshod over everybody. She presumes on Harry and Ron's beneficence the night they find Fluffy, before they're even friends, and only gets worse over time, tries to force them to do things her way all the time, and never takes anyone else's opinions or knowledge into account (like with the House Elves). Grrrrrr. 3) Ron: Spends WAY too much of the series being a whiny, jealous, lazy sod with serious foot-in-mouth disease, and repeatedly turns his back on his 'friends' ... usually when they could use backup the most.

Re: Harry Potter!

nevillegirl — Wed, 09 May 2012 09:34:26 -0600

[quote=Itzika] True, he is not a Healer. However, seeing as he is not in Hogwarts grounds (being in the Shrieking Shack, which is in Hogsmeade), he could Apparate to St. Mungo's, which is full of Healers. Assuming, of course, he had an anti-venom. And the strength to stand and turn. [/quote] Oh, you're all being so silly... has anyone watched How It Should Have Ended: Harry Potter? Search for it on YouTube! Obviously he found the Honey Badger Antivenom...