Percy Jackson and they Olympians and Heroes of Olympus

Essence_of_Insanity — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 09:15:45 -0700

Any more this is an obligatory thread. Discuss what you love and what Riordan did to drive you crazy in the books. Who are your favorite characters? Have a favorite moment? You can share your feelings about the movies here good or bad, but please keep it respectful. Everyone has a different opinion and their opinions are no less valid then the next. There will likely be discussion of Son of Neptune here, so if you haven't read it yet, there may be spoilers here. People who want to discuss SoN, please do something to warn for spoilers so those who don't want to be spoiled can scroll on by - it's common courtesy.

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Emgem2000 — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 12:18:55 -0700

Love the books, my favourite character being Annabeth (Who is blonde. Just syain'...) - although Luke was pretty amazing too when I think about it. Loved Son of Neptune, but don't want to spoil anything for anyone...

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mattskywalker — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 13:44:11 -0700

I love Riordan's books! I've read Percy Jackson and The Lost Hero and can't wait to read Son of Neptune! I also enjoyed the first Kane Chronicles book, but disliked the second. As for the PJ movie... don't even get me started... >.

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Rebka — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:16:20 -0700

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Rebka — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:19:52 -0700

The new nano boards apparently don't like me. That last post had actual words in it, but it cut out everything except my banging on the keyboard. *stares down awkward moment* Anyway, I didn't realize it until I was reading The Last Olympian, but I am completely in love with Percy Jackson (the character). I don't generally fall for the main character of a series (usually because most of the books I read are narrated by girls), but...I don't know. I just really love Percy. I'll admit, I'd never heard of the books until I saw the movie. And so, as usually happens when I see the movie first, I actually liked the movie better than the book. But now I like the books more. And although they could have done a way better job with the movie, it was still pretty great. It was one of those rare movies I knew I [em]had[/em] to see again right after I saw it. Still, I hope the next movie (if they ever get around to making it) stays truer to the books. I was a little apprehensive about reading Heroes of Olympus because I didn't think any new characters could stand up to the old ones, but I absolutely love Jason, Piper and Leo. I haven't read The Son of Neptune yet because unforunately I'm broke so I have to wait for my library to get it.

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Tyler185 — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 03:35:46 -0700

Percy Jackson is to me what Harry Potter is to thousands of people across the English speaking world. It got me into reading and writing. I'm currently re-reading it before November for inspiration and the like. I have The Titan's Curse out in front of me right now and my brain is begging me to pick it up again. I have not read the Last Olympian or any of the other series that take place in Riordan's universe, but I checked them out from the library and am going to change that. I've never seen the movie, mostly because I didn't agree with the aging of Percy and the fact that Annabeth was brunette. One of her main attributes that comes up quite frequently is her hair color! Alright, enough ranting. I love this series.

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QuincyMorris — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 07:26:09 -0700

He should have ended it with Book five. That is all.

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Tyler185 — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 12:53:48 -0700

See, I'm one of those people that create settings and will continue to write in that setting even if the story has nothing to do with the original character. I hope Riordan continues to set novels and stories in the Percy Jackson universe. I want to see Percy grow up and do even more epic things. I wouldn't mind if he wasn't in a story either. It's Riordan's prerogative to write whatever he wants. I just hope he keeps writing about myths, monsters, and half-bloods.

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MalcolmCooms — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 13:34:23 -0700

Book five disappointed me. It was okay, but I feel as if a lot of its potential was untapped. I disagree about him ending it with book five. I think the "Heroes of Olympus" series is an even better series than the Percy series. I really liked "The Red Pyramid" (haven't gotten to "Throne of Fire" yet), probably more than I liked the Percy books in fact, except for that stupid gimmick where they pause in the middle to make it clear to everybody that they're talking into a recorder. That's not funny, it's stupid, gimmicky, and annoying. Not really sure what's he's trying to accomplish there. It's just a novel, it's obvious that nobody remembers anything in the painstaking detail that the characters profess to in the"Kane Chronicles". Just write it like a freaking story and stop with this "Hey! look at me! Remember, I'm actually talking into a recorder right now!" nonsense.

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Essence_of_Insanity — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:34:23 -0700

I actually enjoy Heroes of Olympus more than PJatO, if only because I like that we're seeing the story through more than one character's eyes. I also love that we have Roman heroes as well as Greek heroes in this series. Plus I love that (if Son of Neptune is any indication of the other two books) he's trolling us like no one's business. My only complaint with The Lost HeroSon of Neptune, or his editor had words with him.

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aftersh0cks — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 19:51:09 -0700

I love these books. They were my life for about a year. I'm fond of the last few books of the first series, not the second series so much. They're great, though. What I don't like about his later books is that be becomes a lying little troll with his cliffhangers. Honestly. He could have written four more damn pages and I would have been happy. *curls up into a ball and sobs*

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Tyler185 — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 23:55:36 -0700

I didn't know so many people got angry at cliffhangers. I didn't know that was actually possible. I mean, the man is writing a series. He has to keep us hooked for the next adventure our valiant heroes will have. We are devoted fans nonetheless and would pick up most books that have to do with Mr. Jackson. I like the cliffhangers though. It gives me something to look forward to.

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lvngbooks — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 08:31:24 -0700

I finished Son of Neptune a couple of days ago and I think it's his best one yet. I read Percy Jackson and the Olympians all earlier this year (after people were telling me it would be a good series to read) and I loved them. I also read the first two books in the Kane Chronicles and I like them, but I don't love them. And then there was The Heroes of Olympus. I thought it couldn't get better after PJO but I was wrong - HoO is epic and I love the series so much more than PJO. I cannot wait for The Mark of Athena to come out! I don't think the cliffhanger was that bad, I think the one in MoA will be much worse xD (but I have to admit that I *needed* to read more when I finished SoN - and I was out of unread RR books) The movie was no way near the awesomeness of PJO - although I liked Grover. Wasn't a fan at all of Annabeth's casting. The focus in the movie was all wrong. Ugh. What do you guys think of the fact that Rick finally confirmed there will be a series based on Norse mythology? It won't come out until like 2015, but I'm very excited!

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Chumsy17 — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 10:47:20 -0700

I just got Son of Neptune and the Roman camp makes Camp Half-Blood look so unorganized! But I still love Camp Half-Blood, they're so much cooler. Piper, Leo, and Jason were really good but I'll have to see about Hazel and Frank. I was glad that he finally gave some depth to Aphrodite's kids, and Jason was just so awesome, and Leo was a pretty cool guy. I'll probably come back later once I'm done with SoN. :)

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aftersh0cks — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 11:29:22 -0700

I both love and hate cliffhangers. They make me want to read the next book, yeah, but they make me want to read the next book immediately, and not want to wait another year.

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Essence_of_Insanity — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 13:33:53 -0700

Edit: My only complaint with The Lost Hero is that when Riordan swiched POV during a battle scene, he didn't add anything to the scene. IT WAS THE SAME INSIPID THING REHASHED with nothing new added to the scene. Jason could be talking about being a badass around the Cyclopes and then the POV would switch to Piper and it would be, wow, Jason is being a badass. Son of Neptune didn't seem to suffer from this when POVs switched. The POV switches actually advanced the story this time. Riordan is either getting better or his editor had words with him. :P (how did the internet swallow that much text? :( )

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Tyler185 — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:32:10 -0700

Kind excited! I'm not a big fan of Norse Mythology, but I know Riordan can work his magic and make me love the stories. I just want an epic crossover to happen.

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mattskywalker — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 14:00:26 -0700

That would be so epic! If he wrote all these books based on different mythologies and then wrote a final series weaving them all together!

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Lady_Warrior — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 16:05:31 -0700

*laughs at awkward moment*

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Lady_Warrior — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 16:05:40 -0700

In a nice way. Because that was epic. :)

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Lady_Warrior — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 16:08:04 -0700

I'm currently reading Heroes of Olympus, but WOW. It blew away all my complaints about Book 5 (tacky, bad writing, etc..). It's really awesome, and I can't wait to get Son Of Neptune - soon, and as soon as I finish this one! ^__^ Norse Mythology? O.O That would be cool. Especially if he DID weave everything together!

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Essence_of_Insanity — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 19:30:01 -0700

The day he writes those books, I am buying them. There's no way those books would not be entertaining, not to mention the potential for trolling multiple fanbases at once.

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Tyler185 — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 21:08:36 -0700

There will be so many crossover ships! It'll be tormenting!

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mattskywalker — Sat, 15 Oct 2011 09:26:38 -0700

Still waiting for a copy of SoN to come at my library... *impatience* @Lady: I disliked The Last Olympian the first time I read it as well, but after my second reading I liked it better.

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Lady_Warrior — Sat, 15 Oct 2011 14:18:15 -0700

Wow. Son of Neptune = SoN. xD And I might read it again waaaaaaaaaay in the future. :/

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MalcolmCooms — Sat, 15 Oct 2011 18:52:52 -0700

I have gotten through 96 pages of Son of Neptune sitting for an hour in Barnes and Noble. Didn't have the money with me at the time to buy a copy (but I WILL). My thoughts so far: Very interesting. So far (although I haven't gotten to "war games" yet, which I'm very curious about) I think the Roman Camp is really fascinating (interesting how there seems to be more people at the Roman Camp than the Greek Camp), but I would prefer to live at Camp Half Blood. That said, because I don't know as much about it the Roman Camp is far more interesting to read ABOUT. I'm also really curious to see what's up with the prophecy. like why the Romans have had it for thousands of years whereas the Greeks just learned about it. (It seems as if the Greek method is better; at least when they receive prophecies they have an approximate timetable for when it'll come true, and by "approximate" I mean "really soon"). Thoughts on the book itself: So far it seems much darker than any other Riordan book I've read (which is odd since somebody DIED pretty early on in The Last Olympian). I think it's because there isn't as much humor. There are humorous bits and lines (Riordan is really funny), but not as much as in any of his previous books (including "The Lost Hero", the Percy Jackson Series, and the Kane Chronicles). This darker and serious tone is not necessarily a bad thing, but it does distinguish this book from the other Riordan books I've read; it ratchets up the suspense a bit, and that's saying something because Riordan is a MASTER at suspense; he does a great job with making the reader really curious to turn the page. Verdict so far: I REALLY want to buy a copy because I REALLY want to know what happens next. The whole thing is just very...intriguing.

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MalcolmCooms — Sat, 15 Oct 2011 19:02:49 -0700

Re: The Last Olympian, my problem with it was not bad writing; I thought it was written, technically-wise quite well. But it was still definitely on a level below the other Percy books. I think my biggest problem was the unfulfilled foreshadowing. I'll put it this way: Conflict from previous books: "Percy, personal loyalty is your FATAL FLAW, and you must conquer it or there will be problems." Resolution: Personal loyalty causes him no problems and he defeats Kronos with basically no trouble at all being caused by his personal loyalty to others. Conflict from earlier in the book: Becoming invincible is NOT GREAT. You will have the CURSE OF ACHILLES which is, like, really bad! Resolution: The "Curse of Achilles" is nonexistent; in fact, becoming invulnerable gives Percy no ill effects whatsoever and is the major factor that contributed to Percy's victory in the war. There is absolutely nothing bad about being invincible. That's all I could think of off the top of my head (I had a longer list earlier, but I can't think of them all right now), but still, those are two HUGE pieces of foreshadowing that amounted to...nothing at all. I felt cheated, like victory was too easy. I LOVED "The Lost Hero", easily my favorite Riordan book (although I've only read part of "Son of Neptune"). My second favorite Riordan book is probably "The Battle of the Labyrinth", which was awesome and part of the reason "The Last Olympian" disappointed me so much; my expectations were high.

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MalcolmCooms — Sat, 15 Oct 2011 19:14:42 -0700

Oh, and I hated that Riordan went for what I call the "Disney Hercules" ending (having Percy get offered godhood and immortality but turn it down). I mean, not only did an already made movie do this, it was a FAMOUS, WELL KNOWN movie about GREEK MYTHOLOGY! I rolled my eyes at that one.

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mattskywalker — Sun, 16 Oct 2011 12:27:19 -0700

WE GOT A COPY OF SON OF NEPTUNE. *spazzes* But two of my sisters are reading it first. D:

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lvngbooks — Tue, 18 Oct 2011 10:12:24 -0700

Re: humor: I think it'll get better for you when you read the rest of the book - I found myself laughing out loud and snorting at certain quite a few bits and pieces in the story (of which I will tell you nothing because I don't want to spoil it). I think Rick is building up to a bigger and more intense climax than he did when he wrote PJO, which is probably the reason for the darker feel in the book. And yes, I am also quite intruiged by the whole "We have known the Prophecy for thousands of years" idea. I wonder if Rick will answer that for us in the next couple of books..

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hamlet_ophelia_xoxo — Sun, 23 Oct 2011 17:17:41 -0700

PERCABETH IS MY OTP FOR ETERNITY! burdge-bug.deviantart.com and no, i am not the famous burdge. i am just a rabid fan linking her on this site.

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SweetJuly — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 13:31:37 -0700

My current addiction, I think, this series. I love the way Rick keeps leaving us with the cliff-hangers. It's driving me crazy, but I love it. And he sure can write a nice, thick, interesting book, with good pacing and lots of character-viewpoint-switching. That's his strength, I think. I liked the original series, but this one is even better--he just keeps improving! Also, I'm thrilled that Percy is back. He's matured into being just like the old Percy we know and love--only MORE so. :D Main characters aren't always the characters I like best, but Percy definitely is. I can't wait for more about Leo Valdez, either. He is awesome.

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agreysky — Wed, 26 Oct 2011 10:03:57 -0700

I just started reading The Lightning Thief. I'm excited to get into the series!

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lvngbooks — Thu, 27 Oct 2011 07:35:21 -0700

I'm not sure if you've read Son of Neptune yet - but I think we'll definitely be getting more of Leo :)

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SweetJuly — Fri, 28 Oct 2011 10:34:25 -0700

Oh, yeah, I read The Son of Neptune. And I believe that you are right. *spoiler-free wink* ;)

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mattskywalker — Fri, 28 Oct 2011 14:12:55 -0700

[quote=agreysky] I just started reading The Lightning Thief. I'm excited to get into the series! [/quote] You've only just started? Get ready for awesomeness. :D

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FlameRaven — Fri, 28 Oct 2011 18:29:13 -0700

Of course Disney was going to go that route, they had to have the happy-ever-after ending with the couple in love. Also, Hercules was never a god, he was a hero, so there wasn't any reason he should have been allowed on Olympus anyway. The Disney movie had hardly anything to do with the actual story, anyway. In the actual story Hera was so angry at Zeus that she drove Hercules insane and made him *kill* his wife and children. He had to do the 12 labors to atone for that. :/ Riordan does a great job including most of the actual myths, including the important fact that the Greek gods are dicks and make terrible parents. Percy's choice made sense. It was more important to him that the gods be involved in their kids' lives. Also, who wants to be 16 forever? Percy spent the series learning that the gods aren't really great people, why would he want to spend the rest of eternity with them?

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FlameRaven — Fri, 28 Oct 2011 18:32:32 -0700

I really love these books. I like the Heroes of Olympus and Kane Chronicles a bit better than Percy Jackson, but they're all great reads. My favorite parts of the books are how he manages to incorporate really obscure mythology WHILE masterfully side-stepping all the less-than-family-friendly bits. I think my favorite example of this was in the Kane Chronicles. "Hey, in some myths it says Isis and Osiris were brother and sister, and in some it says they were husband and wife? What gives?" "Well, you see, the myths repeat throughout history, so sometimes they were siblings, and other times they were married!" Way to neatly sidestep the problem of godly incest, Rick Riordan. A+ My other favorite part is how he manages to incorporate all the modern things into the world. I just about died laughing when I heard about the Amazons running Amazon.com! :D

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MalcolmCooms — Fri, 28 Oct 2011 20:49:03 -0700

1. Herakles DID become a god in the actual myth. He was offered the option at the end of his life, and didn't turn it down. I know the real story of Herakles. (Although I recall of a myth where they ("they" meaning "whatever demigod was in this myth because I can't think of the name") find the spirit of the mortal Herakles in the underworld. I think the explanation given was that as Herakles burned to death the mortal part of him was burned away and the godly part remained, or something like that. Anyway, he was the god of manhood.) 2. Percy's choice was in character, I hated that he was offered that choice in the first place. How unnecessary and cliche. BTW, I don't think the point made was that Percy didn't want to spend eternity with the gods because they're not great people. I don't think the gods are particularly bad people, or at least not all of them-they have good and bad qualities, and some are worse than others. Basically, what I'm saying is that the gods are very human. Percy decided not to become a god because he realized that immortality was far less important than love and family.

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MalcolmCooms — Fri, 28 Oct 2011 20:52:02 -0700

I think my favorite moment of side-stepping is reading about the birth of Aphrodite and how she formed when the "substance" of Ouranos dripped into the ocean. (Slightly explicit warning) Actually, the myths were a bit more specific about that. It wasn't just Ouranos's substance. It was, to put it bluntly, his balls. They were cut off by Kronos, fell into the ocean, and turned into Aphrodite. Lovely.

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MalcolmCooms — Fri, 28 Oct 2011 21:09:50 -0700

Re-reading this, I just want to point out that if the tone seems harsh that was absolutely 100% unintentional. It's just supposed to be a quick reply, and nothing more is implied in it than that. It's only supposed to continue the discussion. (I just wanted to make sure I said this because when I re-read the post it came out as harsh and it was not meant to AT ALL. Just to clarify.)

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FlameRaven — Sat, 29 Oct 2011 06:29:52 -0700

It did sound a bit harsh, but that's okay. Tone is hard to do on the internet. Sorry if I went overboard in replying. I tend to ramble on and on. Helpful in writing, not always helpful in discussing.

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FlameRaven — Sat, 29 Oct 2011 06:30:51 -0700

Haha, you're right. I remember that. It did always think it was pretty appropriate for Aphrodite. ;)

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Supurbia — Sat, 29 Oct 2011 09:13:04 -0700

These books are really something. I personally was a big fan of the last three books in the (main?) series. I loved the Hunters, the Labyrinth, and the big battle. For the Heroes of Olympus, The Lost Hero was pretty good. I liked how we could see so much characterization in each chapter from the different viewpoints. As for The Kane Chronicles...They're pretty okay. I like the second one more than the first, which I felt got a little muddled near the end. Vague Spoilers For The Son of Neptune coming up...I am having an incredibly hard time even remembering what happened. I felt it was a rehash of The Lost Hero (Well, that was sort of the point.). I really only liked it because Percy came back, the other two heroes, I didn't really care for them at all.

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3FSAEDR — Sun, 06 Nov 2011 00:54:45 -0700

You know what you just made me do? HUH? You made me spend an hour looking at this Deviantart instead of working on my novel! THAT'S WHAT YOU DID! Just kidding, but I did just waste an hour on there when I should have been sleeping, or writing.

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MalcolmCooms — Sun, 06 Nov 2011 07:00:34 -0800

You know which character I was most impressed with in The Lost Hero? Piper. Leo was my favorite character (holy crap he's just awesome), and Jason is...Jason. He reminds me strongly of Jake from Animorphs. But here's why I why I was most impressed with Piper: When you're a guy writing female characters I speak from experience when I say it is VERY hard to create a "strong" female character without falling into the ultra-feminist "Hey I can do anything boys can do because I'm a badass warrior who kicks ass" stereotype. Like, it's hard to create a "strong" female who's around males a lot who doesn't act tough and manly to "prove" she's a tough female character. Even Annabeth, even though she's a very good and very developed character, falls into this stereotype a bit IMO (I like Annabeth though). I feel like Riordan avoided that with Piper. She came off as REAL. Like, I felt like she was a girl, not some macho tough-guy who was trying to prove they're a warrior-badass who oh yeah just HAPPENS to be a girl. At the same time, she was a really strong character who's just as willing to take on villains and monsters as either of the guys and who has a certain toughness inside of her in her own right. I just have to give Riordan props for that. It's hard to do if you're a guy writing a girl.

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Gilly Bean — Sun, 06 Nov 2011 17:05:58 -0800

So, I just finished SoN RICK RIORDAN, YOU TROLL. HOW DARE YOU WRITE A CLIFFHANGER LIKE THAT! I want adorable Percabeth reunion nao! T-T Ahem. Predictions. Love triangles. Between Jason, Piper, and Reyna, and between Hazel, Frank, and Leo. Piper will end up with Jason, and Hazel will end up with Frank. Reyna and Leo will be forever alone. Although, I really like ReynaxOctavian. (Lol JK.) And Leo will probably get, like, some random girl who will be introduced later. Ella is fast becoming my favorite character, because of her insanity. And also, because she fell in love with Tyson. How cute is that? That is all. Time to wait for Mark Of Athena

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SweetJuly — Mon, 07 Nov 2011 12:09:20 -0800

Maybe Reyna will end up with Leo... :) Ella is the greatest. Especially like how she falls in love with Tyson. And here I thought I was the only one in love with Tyson. What an awesome bunch of characters. I feel as though Annabeth might already be wandering around in Rome, and the Argo II will arrive to pick her up. Can't wait for MoA!

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ShinyRaikou — Wed, 09 Nov 2011 12:06:40 -0800

Loved Son of Neptune, especially Ella.

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lvngbooks — Thu, 10 Nov 2011 13:48:38 -0800

May I drop a theory in here for those that read Son of Neptune? WARNING SPOILERS SPOILERS LOOK AWAY IF YOU HAVEN'T READ SON OF NEPTUNE Too late! So we have read about Frank and his curse, his short lifespan. Ever since we saw that picture at Hazel's room, basically showing Leo, I have this hunch. Frank will die in book three or four, burning up his piece of wood in a heroic moment that saves Percy (and/or Jason, but my money is on Percy - something about him not being able to make a decision and Frank being able to decide) and Hazel will be heartbroken, but ends up with Leo. I really think those two will be together by the end of the series, and also I think that Frank will be replaced by Nico as the seven most powerful half-bloods in the prophecy. I wonder if I am thinking too much about this or that it actually makes sense. Mind you, I don't actually have friends that read this series (I'm working on getting one of my friendsies to start PJ!) so this is my only way to talk about my suspicions :P

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3FSAEDR — Wed, 16 Nov 2011 17:54:41 -0800

Great theory! And I'm right there with you on the No-real-life-friends-read-the-series thing

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hamlet_ophelia_xoxo — Sat, 19 Nov 2011 18:02:23 -0800

is she amazing or is she amazing?

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lvngbooks — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 12:09:36 -0800

Two of my bookish friends have now picked up The Lightning Thief, one absolutely loving the audiobook (immediately wrote that down on my wishlist) and one literally devouring the book in a couple of hours. She's disappointed she doesn't have the rest of the series yet! *success* So I have two buddies who I can talk to now about PJO! :D (My sister still rolls her eyes whenever I mention Percy).

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Essence_of_Insanity — Wed, 23 Nov 2011 18:12:47 -0800

I have a friend who I've converted and she's going to wait for her baby niece to get old enough so that she can read the books to her when she's old enough. I'm still holding out for another one though because she just got so caught up in the characterization of Mr. D that she got angry and put them down. :( I want her to be a fan so I have another friend I can fangirl along with.

Re: Percy Jackson and they Olympians and Heroes of Olympus

MalcolmCooms — Sun, 01 Jan 2012 14:15:21 -0800

So. I've finally read Son of Neptune. My thoughts: My original feeling was right. Very dark book. The theme of the story was death, so no surprise. I like Hazel, and I LOVE how Riordan worked the myth of Meleager into Frank's story-clever. Percy was disappointing. His character conflict-the lost memories-basically resolved itself on its own and he was the only character who had pretty much no connection to the death theme. I mean we had the bit with the "Son of Neptune drowning" but I didn't buy it for a second. It was ready-made for a loophole and Percy is way to popular for Riordan to kill off. So Percy was actually a bit boring because he had the least conflict. I like Reyna a lot, and I prefer Camp Jupiter to Camp Half-Blood. Their training is more intense but it's definitely better in the long run. Plus the way they talk about it deaths at Camp Jupiter are about as common as deaths at Camp Half-Blood. And it still seems like the romans have time to socialize, nobody's ostracized because of their godly parent thanks to the legion system of bunking, and after ten years you can retire and relax. It just seems like a much better system. Things I liked: I feel like Riordan is ratcheting up the intensity with every book. This quest was INSANE. I actually, honestly didn't see how they could possibly complete all of the quest goals without anybody dying. I was sure either somebody would die or at least one of the goals wouldn't be completed. I also liked Reyna and Octavian. Octavian looks like he'll be an excellent villain and Reyna...I don't know. I like her. I also liked Mars. Mars seemed like the "noble" side of Ares. In fact on the whole I prefer the Roman forms of the gods more than the Greek forms, to be honest. And that thing with Leo apparently being descended from Sammy? Nice cliffhanger. I really, really like that Percy's "fatal flaw" is going to come back to bite him, too. That was one of my biggest pet peeves with "The Last Olympian", I'm glad Riordan's bringing that up again. Dislikes: Percy wasn't nearly as interesting as he was in the original series. He had the least conflict of the three characters and was a bit of a disappointment. Hazel and Frank were good characters but honestly I much preferred the three main characters from "The Lost Hero". All three of them had real, significant conflicts that stayed with them until the end of the novel, and I just liked them more. Also, Riordan's starting to get formulaic. This was extremely similar to "The Lost Hero". It's not a big problemyet but eventually Riordan's going to have to mix it up a little. I have faith in him, though, his writing has improved tremendously since the original "Percy" book. Overall: I preferred "The Lost Hero" (I LOVE that book), but this was very good too. I don't have any predictions, Riordan has a million different ways he can go with this, especially when he gets the mythology involved. I just want to see what happens. Overall: 8.5 out of 10 stars. "THe Lost Hero" got 9.5 out of 10.

Re: Percy Jackson and they Olympians and Heroes of Olympus

mattskywalker — Mon, 02 Jan 2012 09:13:23 -0800

I do agree with the whole "Riordan's getting formulaic" thing. I hope that he does mix it up more very soon.

Re: Percy Jackson and they Olympians and Heroes of Olympus

Aero3691 — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 20:15:47 -0800

I loved Percy Jackson and the Olympians. It's one of my favorite series of all time. The Lost Hero was great, but I didn't like it as much as the Lightning Thief. However, I liked the Son of Neptune much more than the Sea of Monsters for the most part (stupid guinea pigs...) but, I would rate it about even with the Lost Hero. I was sick of Percy's amnesia by the end of the book. It wasn't like Jason's where you didn't know his past either; we all know Percy's past. However the rest of the story mostly made up for it. I would rate them evenly mainly because I was really missing Percy or anything familiar. It was a little unsettling and it didn't feel as good of a start of a series as the Lightning Thief. It left a lot of loose ends and made me a little frustrated that Percy didn't make a single appearance when I was so used to him narrating the entire story before. That's all I have to say.

Re: Percy Jackson and they Olympians and Heroes of Olympus

MalcolmCooms — Sun, 29 Jan 2012 18:32:51 -0800

This is the first time I've ever, ever looked at fan art, and holy crap this is fantastic. All of it.

Re: Percy Jackson and they Olympians and Heroes of Olympus

Chestergirl28 — Wed, 01 Feb 2012 13:45:30 -0800

I honestly would've been happy if Percy hadn't reappeared, or at least wasn't narrating for this series. I was satisfied with the way things worked out in The Last Olympian. But I do adore Percy- and I'm glad he's back. But I miss him as a camper at Camp Half-Blood. I liked his interactions with Clarisse, Grover, Annabeth, and Chiron. I really miss his little personal things- blue foods, talking to sea creatures, being awful at archery, and his mom. I'd really like to see Percy step up and take the role that Annabeth and Luke had in the first book (minus the turing into a villain part). Have him really become a leader at camp and have Piper/Leo/Jason etc. looking up at him and seeing him from another point of view. I liked seeing Annabeth from Piper's point of view- it would've been nice to see Percy from another side when he isn't narrating. To really only see what others see, and not his thoughts.

Re: Percy Jackson and they Olympians and Heroes of Olympus

Telsanasee — Tue, 06 Mar 2012 10:52:35 -0800

Loved these books, just Percy is a little too goofy for my taste. Anyway, those books sparked ideas for my own trilogy...... which totally upsets me because whenever I try to read Son of Neptune I feel crazy! Number one reason is that since I started writing this trilogy I gave the Greek gods such a different personality I was like "what? Hades doesn't act like that!........ Number two reason is that I take Latin for foreign language and I understand the majority of latin words they say...

Re: Percy Jackson and they Olympians and Heroes of Olympus

Collen — Wed, 07 Mar 2012 15:56:16 -0800

Oh, I absolutely love these books. It's probably just because I love fantasy and snarking, but still. Son of Neptune is probably my favorite book so far. Ella is awesome, the quest is even bigger than ever, and I love how around 200 pages were spent at the roman camp - I felt really IMMERSED in it all. My only problem is that the war games could have been expanded on a little, but that's just because I like battles like that.

Re: Percy Jackson and they Olympians and Heroes of Olympus

beanza3 — Mon, 26 Mar 2012 11:24:14 -0700

SPOILERS!!!! Okay. I agree with the sentiments about Percy, but I have no quibble with RR because... For me, I love Percy. But he wasn't new, but his POV is still so fun to read that... There isn't a great medium... I mean, the amnesia leaves us with no new direction to really go into, and RR had to introduce 2 new characters, and seemed to be trying to limit P's POV in favor of the new characters because of the whole: what to do with Percy problem. So I'll chalk that up to growing pains. I adored both books equally. I love Lost Hero because Jason's awesome, Piper is quite possibly one of RR's best female characters, and Leo's kinda adorable. But he got a lot more interesting in the second book... O.o Not sure how that happened. :D I love SoN because a) Percy was back. And true to form, he had to be annoying and irritate me for POV reasons. :D I also enjoyed both Hazel and Frank's POV's and never found myself wanting to be in another head, which I did a bit in LH. (Sorry, Leo, but cuteness doesn't go that far...) I also loved the oppertunities for conflict RR's introduced that I hope and pray he'll utilize in the next books. We've got 2 heros, both decorated, one son of Jupiter, the other Neptune. Percy hates planes and being in the sky. Jason will probably want to fly. And then there's just the issue of having 2 leaders in one quest. :D Could cause problems. Then there's whatever's going to cause Annabeth problems, which will, of course, effect Percy. Then there's the Reyna/Piper/Jason problem, which could be big or little depending on how much the Daughter of War is in the book. I'd love a D. of Love vs. a D. of War show down! Then there's Leo/Frank/Hazel... Which could cause a lot of tension, which would be completely awesome if so. >.< And I agree with the pervious comments about RR looking formulamatic, but... We've got 7 kids going to Rome. I don't forsee that to be the biggest problem, but, hey, I'm no Rachel! :D And what about Grover? He was mentioned a bit in SoN, but... Are they just going to leave him wandering around? Or is he going to be in the next book? Or am I going to miss my favorite faun/satyr? :P Obviously I'm excited for the next book! I wish I could've held out untill next fall, but... Curiousity!!!

Re: Percy Jackson and they Olympians and Heroes of Olympus

MalcolmCooms — Mon, 26 Mar 2012 18:25:56 -0700

I just hope Riordan a) is creative with the love triangles, and b) makes sure the love triangles are SUB-plots, not a main plot, which was the big problem with the Hunger Games-I mean, as a reader I must admit that I was far more interested in the struggle for freedom going on in a post-apocalyptic world than whether Katniss chose Gale or Peeta. But I digress... But I loved reading from Percy's point of view again. I had no issues with that. I just wish he had more conflict going on, that's all-I was never convinced that Percy's problems were as big as the other two quest members'.

Re: Percy Jackson and they Olympians and Heroes of Olympus

Zaramora_Gladen — Mon, 26 Mar 2012 20:50:06 -0700

Yes, yes, SUB-plot love triangles are PERFECT!!! Main-plot ones are overdone!! >.> But, I like his triangles. They're cute! I think that his third person type POV wasn't nearly as funny as the first person, but it was absolutely wonderfully done. The narration is good, and I don't hate it, I do love it! It was a shock, though, reading it in the third person ^^ but it all worked out. I already have my shipping couples. Frank-Hazel, and Jason-Piper. Leo can be with Reyna. Just to fill it out!! Because Percabeth is a given!!! Okay, who else besides me absolutely hated the end of SoN???? I wanted to see Percy and Annabeth reunited! I bet he's not even going to write it out! -goes to sulk in my fanfiction haven- it fills the hole in my heart only Percabeth can fill <3 But, overall, I like the Lost Heroes series. It's really good and I don't ever want it to end!!! ^^'

Re: Percy Jackson and they Olympians and Heroes of Olympus

mattskywalker — Tue, 27 Mar 2012 06:48:09 -0700

I completely agree with love triangles being subplots. Really, romance in general needs to be a subplot for me to enjoy a book. If it's a huge part of the story, I usually can't enjoy the book. And I watched the Percy Jackson movie again the other night. What was I thinking?! *HEADDESK*

Re: Percy Jackson and they Olympians and Heroes of Olympus

Zaramora_Gladen — Fri, 30 Mar 2012 20:26:45 -0700

ME TOO!!!!! My family loved it!!! I HATE it soooo much. Percy is too old!!! And Annabeth isn't even BLONDE!! And they're too romantic, Percy and Annabeth. It kills the suspense!!!

Re: Percy Jackson and they Olympians and Heroes of Olympus

mattskywalker — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 08:22:24 -0700

[quote=Zaramora_Gladen] ME TOO!!!!! My family loved it!!! I HATE it soooo much. Percy is too old!!! And Annabeth isn't even BLONDE!! And they're too romantic, Percy and Annabeth. It kills the suspense!!! [/quote] Haha, don't even get me started... I could rant for hours about that movie. >.<

Re: Percy Jackson and they Olympians and Heroes of Olympus

Collen — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 13:05:40 -0700

I agree with the thoughts on the ending, but I think it's for the best - I mean, the book was already 500 pages long and I don't think Riordan is going to write a J.K. Rowling-sized Doorstoppers. However, I still can't wait for Mark of Athena. At least we'll get The Serpent's Shadow to tide us over in May...

Re: Percy Jackson and they Olympians and Heroes of Olympus

MalcolmCooms — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:45:23 -0700

Am I the only person who had absolutely no problem with the ending? Were I the author I would have ended it at the exact same spot. It seemed to me like the natural point the book should stop. Also, am I the only one who likes this series better than the original Percy Jackson books? Or are there others like me?

Re: Percy Jackson and they Olympians and Heroes of Olympus

Zaramora_Gladen — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 16:26:59 -0700

It was a good stopping point, honestly. I just miss the Percabeth ending he'll chop out (hopefully not!!!)

Re: Percy Jackson and they Olympians and Heroes of Olympus

beanza3 — Sun, 01 Apr 2012 11:15:21 -0700

I agree with you on both counts. I love drama, hate love triangles (because of how they tend to be done) so I'm going on faith. Faith and oreos. :D I must trust RR! The wait won't make me doubt! (Well, maybe, but, we'll see...)

Re: Percy Jackson and they Olympians and Heroes of Olympus

beanza3 — Sun, 01 Apr 2012 11:17:07 -0700

I agree. I loved Percy, but now I have more choice! :D And I love him bringing in the Roman Gods, and so on... :D

Re: Percy Jackson and they Olympians and Heroes of Olympus

mattskywalker — Sun, 01 Apr 2012 18:21:02 -0700

[quote=Collen] I agree with the thoughts on the ending, but I think it's for the best - I mean, the book was already 500 pages long and I don't think Riordan is going to write a J.K. Rowling-sized Doorstoppers. However, I still can't wait for Mark of Athena. At least we'll get The Serpent's Shadow to tide us over in May... [/quote] I sure hope The Serpent's Shadow is better than The Throne of Fire... And I think I like the Heroes of Olympus better than the first series as well!

Re: Percy Jackson and they Olympians and Heroes of Olympus

Princeshelby — Sat, 14 Apr 2012 01:36:28 -0700

Things I liked: -I like the use of Latin -It was a nice mental break from Great Expectations, which I was reading for English at the time. -The references, such as amazon,com being run by the Amazons. Things I didn't like: -I really wish it was in first person. I know that third person may have been better for both books, but that was the main reason I liked the Lightening Thief in the first place: I loved that it was in first person. -The actual writing was... less than outstanding. The actual storytelling is great, but the prose itself, oh goodness... -And (spoiler alert), am I the only one annoyed by the fact that Hazel kept having flashbacks instead of filling in the information later? And by the fact that, though the gods don't have power in Alaska, the demigods do, and this just so happens to save everyone's favorite character as he plunges off a cliff? Speaking of which... -Is it just me, or is Percy becoming (if he wasn't already) a big Gary Stu? Sure, in the Lightening Thief books he was a little Stuish, but again, I thought that the first person made him more relatable and not as "I'm so amazingly perfect but I"ll immediatly reject any compliments because I'm just so humble". So, all in all, I really didn't like them as much as I did the original Percy Jackson series.

Re: Percy Jackson and they Olympians and Heroes of Olympus

Princeshelby — Sat, 14 Apr 2012 01:41:07 -0700

Also: I miss Rachel. A lot. By the end of the second book, I was like, "SHE HAD BETTER BE ON THAT SHIP THING, OR ELSE I'LL HAVE TO ATTEMPT FANFICTION!!!!!" And then the book ended. Note: I don't have a problem with the ending, but I do miss my favorite character.

Re: Percy Jackson and they Olympians and Heroes of Olympus

Collen — Wed, 16 May 2012 17:56:53 -0700

I believe that Percy's water-resistance is not caused by Poseidon's direct interference, but rather in his genes. So even though the gods couldn't reach them, Percy was still a son of Poseidon, so he still had his water abilities.