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Briar Of The Shire — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:04:07 +0100

So, anyone else going just a wee bit crazy waiting for the new season/series? I'm in the US, so I think I am going to be a babbling wreck by the time the episodes get to me :)

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nightblade — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:01:51 +0100

I caught the first season on netflix and really liked it. Is there going to be another season?

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cbeverly — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:07:41 +0100

Yeah, three more 90 minutes episodes in January I believe. Can't wait!

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PurpleCow — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:20:18 +0100

I have been waiting impatiently for season two ever since the first one aired last year. :-)

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Eriadriel — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 21:34:07 +0100

Can't wait for this to get back on our screens. Wasn't crazy about the idea when it was first advertised, but saw the first episode and was completely hooked - great scripts and casting. Perfect TV show. I can't believe that the new series is only three episodes long again after the rave reviews the first one got. Still, quality over quantity, I guess.

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Lauriloth — Tue, 11 Oct 2011 21:38:23 +0100

I love this show so much! It is beyond brilliant. It is killing me waiting for the next season.

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Briar Of The Shire — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 00:30:25 +0100

I know! Especially since I am a spoiler junkie and I've been feeding my addiction every chance I get. Don't want to spoil anyone else, though, so I'll leave it there (gotta figure out how to do spoiler tags here!).

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The Barenaked Critic — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 00:34:58 +0100

Caught it on Netflix Instant Watch and really, really enjoyed it. Since I'm the resident entertainment guru, my friends pester me about once every few weeks, asking when the next season will come out. So far, they've not been happy with the "next year" answer. :-)

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Byddie-Pop — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 00:47:46 +0100

*facial twitch* I loooove this show! I don't have BBC America so I'm gonna have to wait until March to see them I bet XP

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undivided_self — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 01:17:14 +0100

I adore this show so much, even with its problematic second episode. I just hope the second season lives up to the massive expectations.

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Evangaline656 — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 01:23:10 +0100

I love this show so much. I discovered the three episodes on Netflix, and I watched them in three days. :3 I can't wait until the new season comes out!!!

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ankhta — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 01:24:45 +0100

aah! can't wait until january!

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Ophiucha — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 02:31:21 +0100

I watched the first season one night with my husband, and we both liked it. I really love how they portray Sherlock himself, though admittedly I'm not too fond of Moriarty. Watson is cool, not the best or the worst. Still, I like the writing and how they portray the Sherlock thought process, so I'm excited for season two. :)

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dark_phoenix — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 02:33:41 +0100

Glad I'm not the only one who cringed at the second episode. I'm not fully sold on how they've done Moriarty, but the series was just so darn amazing that I'm sure it'll feel more natural in the second season. Fingers crossed, anyway!

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Katling — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 02:34:19 +0100

I was like you. I was a bit dubious about the whole thing but watched it anyway because, well, Sherlock Holmes! The casting was what dragged me in. Benedict Cumberbatch and Martin Freeman are perfect and I love how they've dealt with Watson's Wandering Wound! :D

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undivided_self — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 04:43:28 +0100

oh god, that second episode is just painful, blatant racism and misogyny, because that's exactly what I want to see on my tv * eye roll* Despite that, I still really love the show while acknowledging its flaws, and at least the John/Sherlock banter in that episode is really quite lovely.

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Inoru no Hoshi — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 05:25:57 +0100

This show. I am ridiculously in love with it. Sherlock. John. The way Sherlock and John banter. The modern takes on the mysteries. Just everything. Only things that could make it better would be having the first season on proper DVDs so I could get subtitling, and, of course, the next season.

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Captain Lonewolf — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 08:07:33 +0100

I love the whole modern angle they took for the story. Original Sherlock is great, but the new, modern Sherlock is just as cool! I can't wait for the next season.

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Lobster Telephone — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 10:44:33 +0100

I started watching it when it first came out but it didn't really interest me then and I never finished, but I rewatched the whole first series yesterday and now I really really want series 2. I hope it does come out in January next year and not December or something... And I agree with everyone that the second episode was a bit shit. And it had no Lestrade. Which is unforgivable. (also Martin Freeman is adorable and everytime he shows up I just want to give him and his terrible jumper a great big hug)

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premiumcider — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 13:18:04 +0100

There's just one thing I don't like about Sherlock: The *waiting* for the *new episodes*!!!

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Spaghetti7 — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 15:26:07 +0100

This show is amazing. At first I wasn't too excited because I figured a modernized version would have practically nothing to do with the original Sherlock Holmes. And I couldn't believe how wrong I was. This is one of the few times that I can say I loved an adaptation of a literary story because for once, you've got writers who are constantly going back to the original material instead of stealing the premise and paving their own way from there.

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salmon12345 — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:18:39 +0100

I love BBC's Sherlock, great casting for Sherlock and John and I like how they put in the modern stuff but they still used lots of things from the ACD canon.

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AdrienEtienne — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 18:43:24 +0100

I adore this show. I have been pouting over the fact that the second season is taking so long to come out. The casting is amazing, and I love how they tied it so well to the original stories. I also love the nods to the Grenada Sherlock Holmes. Adrien Etienne

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FionaAnne — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 20:04:52 +0100

Sherlock was by far one of the best things on TV last year, can't wait to see the new episodes! I love the modern spin on the stories

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Tiasanaa — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 21:20:41 +0100

Absolutely adore this adaption! I wasn't too interested in first, despite living in the UK and feeling the full force of the raving reviews when it first aired, but after several recommendations I watched it and fell in love. The waiting is driving me slowly insane, but at least I know I'm not the only one... There's the fandom, after all.

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snapefan4life — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 21:33:07 +0100

DH and I caught it on television and have forced our friends to watch it on Netflix. I know Stephen Moffat has his creative hands full with show-running Dr. Who, but I am VERY impatiently waiting for the next season of Sherlock! Can't wait for more Sherlock/Watson banter and clever re-interpretations of the classic story. Also, I just *love* Benedict Cumberbatch!

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Lauriloth — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 22:32:57 +0100

Ah yes, Benedict Cumberbatch is just so brilliant. He is Sherlock in my eyes now.

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Briar Of The Shire — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 23:25:53 +0100

I've gotten to the point where I'm thinking of abandoning my original NaNo novel idea and writing a Sherlock fanfic instead - but with the slight challenge that it would have to be passible as a Sherlock episode. Like no killing off major characters, no out-of-character moments, and a return to the status quo at the end of the story. I think it would be fun, like the start of my own virtual season while I wait for the real thing :)

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gimmie_shoes — Wed, 12 Oct 2011 23:29:47 +0100

I wasn't sure about the series until Sherlock said he'd left his riding crop in the mortuary. Then I was hooked.

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Briar Of The Shire — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 03:19:08 +0100

Yes! It wasn't just the line, though, it was the delivery. He was just so nonchalant about it. It told you loads about his character :) By the way, I love your avatar ("There's coffee in that nebula!") *grins*

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Teri-K — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 05:29:26 +0100

I love it! I watched it on PBS when it first came out, and kept telling my kids how great it was and how much I thought they'd like it if they'd give it a try. No takers. I think they just put it down to "Mom and her mysteries. " Then about six months ago my daughter-in-law started telling me about this great show they'd watched somewhere -- guess what? Yep, Sherlock. Then last week my daughter said she'd been watching a new British series and she loved it, and had I seen -- Sherlock. I admit it. I was a BAD MOM. I said, "I told you so," to all of them. LOL I'm so excited for January. White Collar and Sherlock will both be back. I'll be in Seventh Heaven for sure.

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brionyjae — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 06:01:16 +0100

*crashes onto thread* Squeeee! I adore Sherlock, every single bit of it :D I only discovered it this year, as NZ only aired it this year... *shakes head* But, since then, I've become obsessed. Can't seem to like things halfway. Anyway, can't WAIT for the season, like the rest of you :)

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Tiasanaa — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 19:02:34 +0100

I can never do halves either - "like" and "obsession" are synonyms in my mind now. Which means Sherlock has taken over my brain since I started watching it.

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BACKDROPsilhouette — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 19:40:47 +0100

I discovered Sherlock one week ago . . .>.> But I'm already obsessed and have watched every episode (+unaired pilot) a million times.....aaand I made a new tumblr to obsess over it and Benedict. I WILL EVENTUALLY BE A TRUE SHERLOCKIAN, I PROMISE.

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Narnian_from_Gallifrey — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 20:40:54 +0100

I have known about the book series for quiet a while, I have a friend who is actually obsessed (he has a deerstalker and a pipe collection etc) and I started reading the stories because of him. I only caught the show on TV while I was babysitting one night, the Great Game, part way through. I didn't really know what was going on, but I was immediately hooked. I went home and watched the episodes online. I now have Netflix and have watched them several times each - they're SO GOOD! I couldn't believe how fantastically they had managed to bring Sherlock into the modern day. Plus Benedict is -- amazing -- as the lead, and how can you not love Martin as John, plus we have the same last name! (In other, yet related news, I cannot wait for The Hobbit to come out! Both Benedict and Martin have fairly significant roles!!) Anyway, for what it's worth, that's my little introduction to this wonderful series, and I look forward to fangirling over it with you guys, both in waiting for the next season and through it. Cheers, NfG

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-happyness- — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 21:55:14 +0100

I watched A Study in Pink for the thousandth time today :P I can't wait for the new series, it's killing me!

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Saah — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:10:09 +0100

-fan gushes- I wasn't really sure either, because I've never really been into anything too dark or mysterious... But it really kept my attention and was really adorable (I was afraid that it wouldn't be, and so I would like it) and I ended up watching it several times alone, then making some of my friends watch it with me on weekends (one by one...) to the point where they were just like "If you've already seen this so many times and know who did it, how is it interesting?" But I think that it just gets better every time. I keep noticing things and thinking "Oh God, that's just peeerfect." The whole set-up is so amazing and the little details that pass by unnoticed the first time or two... (Unless it's just that I'm really dense, and it takes me a long time to pick up on all of the little clues...) It's been really hard waiting for more... And I'm a little upset that there will only be three more episodes.. I mean, that's like one Sunday afternoon... Then I'll be back to waiting for news about more while frantically re-watching and re-watching. I really need to find other things to distract me for the need to watch more Sherlock. Thankfully NaNo is coming up, so that should keep my mind busy. I also hope that the second season is as good as the first, but I am pretty sure it will be. With the producers and actors and greatness that goes into the show, I don't think it could turn out to be anything less than complete awesome. -end fan gush-

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Briar Of The Shire — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 11:14:13 +0100

I have been rereading all of the original Sherlock Holmes stories lately, wondering as I do about which ones they are going to borrow stuff from for the new season :) I mean, being a spoiler nut, I know the three main ones, but the details... oh, goodness, the details!

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tweedandtea — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 14:32:27 +0100

Anyone in the UK know when the new episodes air? January, but January when? Am impatient. And getting prepped to throw Sherlock parties. :)

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EllieFaye — Sat, 15 Oct 2011 07:55:24 +0100

I just became addicted to Sherlock the day before yesterday. Lol. I had seen the show on Netflix a while back and was like Meh....I'm gonna go watch Doctor Who now. Then the other day I was at B&N and found The Complete Sherlock Holmes Vol I and II and was stuck by their prettiness and bought them. So yesterday I spent the entire day watching the show again and falling in love and reading the books. Already really addicted. But I can't wait for the new episodes.

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FluffySilver — Sat, 15 Oct 2011 08:19:56 +0100

Saw part of the third episode yesterday by accident. Now going to watch all of them!

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i am the moon — Sat, 15 Oct 2011 19:25:14 +0100

LOVE this show! I was also a little dubious on the whole premise at first, but now I adore it. And this is coming from a books!verse scrooge. Honestly, though. Is anyone actually surprised that the second ep was racist and sexist? This is Moffatt we're talking about. I've barely been able to cringe through his series of Doctor Who. It's bloody terrible.

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kitsuneopal — Sun, 16 Oct 2011 22:33:49 +0100

This is one of the best shows I have seen in a while. It even got me interested in reading the stories, and I find that I love them just as much as the show!

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Outlier- — Sun, 16 Oct 2011 22:50:30 +0100

Oh, I love it! When I first heard about I thought it sounded awful, but then I watched it and now I adore it. I can't wait until the next episodes! Although I hope there's no romance in it. I HATE when various Sherlock Holmes adaptions force girls int it. Just...ugh. NO.

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sarchasm — Sun, 16 Oct 2011 23:24:47 +0100

I love this show! The modern take on it is really interesting. I have to say Watson/Freeman is my favorite, although Sherlock/Cumberbatch is pretty dang awesome too. Eagerly awaiting Season 2. =)

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Shineoncindi — Mon, 17 Oct 2011 00:00:59 +0100

I'm so excited for series 2! :D best. adaptation. ever. (a lot better than the robert downey jnr. version amirite?!)

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EvelJerome — Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:56:58 +0100

i keep rewatching the three eps once in a while. well, the're just awesome. i'm crossing my fingers until January and hoping that BBC does nothing to push back the start of ep 4. i actually have such a fondness for anything SH related, that i've used the nickname Moriarty for about five years now. some of my friends even call me by that name instead of my real one.

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kitsuneopal — Mon, 17 Oct 2011 20:40:13 +0100

I had heard that the premiere day got pushed to spring.

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Lauriloth — Mon, 17 Oct 2011 20:47:16 +0100

[quote=Shineoncindi](a lot better than the robert downey jnr. version amirite?!)[/quote] I really liked that movie, but yes, it is nothing compared to this show. And, though Robert Downey Jr. did a good job, Cumberbatch is just made to be Sherlock. And I think it did get pushed to Spring. Ugh...-.-

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Keladryie — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 05:20:21 +0100

I have it on DVD (well, bluray, but my friends have it on DVD...) and it has subtitles and everything. It was available here on DVD even before they put it on TV. (Australia, friends in both the UK and USA have it.)

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Keladryie — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 05:27:09 +0100

Utterly adore it, and have to do things like follow @SherlockSH and @WatsonJW and the rest of their gang on twitter until it's back.

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Declaro — Fri, 21 Oct 2011 04:37:37 +0100

I know right? I don't mind if John gets involved with someone, but Sherlock... just no. No no no. Though it sounds like Moffat and Gatiss are pretty clear on Sherlock being asexual and uninterested, from the interviews I've read.

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Declaro — Fri, 21 Oct 2011 04:39:50 +0100

My family and I just caught it on the Instant Queue on Netflix, and I've seen all the episodes twice already. I'm sure I'll see them a few more times before the new episodes start. I'll likely die of happiness when the new ones start airing... I was so skeptical about this series, I can't even describe it. I'm such a die-hard ACD canon type, and I hate modern adaptations, so to have this series be so good, and so completely eradicate my concerns... It was just wonderful. :)

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Sternschnuppe — Fri, 21 Oct 2011 12:32:52 +0100

Brilliant! witty! Ironic! thrilling! to me it is the closest interpretation to Conan Doyle's Sherlock i've ever seen. (and i've been a great Sherlock fan all my life.) Benedict is a real great resourceful sociopath, but Martin is brilliant. never seen so many variants of crumbling ones face together with so less movement, and so less mimic impressing the whole emotional background. He IS Dr. Watson! He got his BAFTA rightfully. i really loved that show, it was pure pleasure! all these twists on the original stuff.... ah, just got a little bit overwhelmed, or should i say cumberbatched? *g* Can't stand waiting until Season 2 is aired. and i hope there will be another Season after that.

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Septimus Pfluger — Sat, 22 Oct 2011 01:16:50 +0100

Definitely one of the best detective shows I've seen on Masterpiece, though Ms. Marple held that spot for a long time. Cumberbatch was superbly Sherlock, and, well, Martin is good at playing those people who are better content with watching (ie Arthur Dent, and soon, Bilbo). Stupid thing about not showing them on Masterpiece until a year after they're shown on the BBC. And watching on a computer is just... Not the same.

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Elven Princess — Sat, 22 Oct 2011 01:18:50 +0100

I like this series. :D

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Lily Argetfricai — Sat, 22 Oct 2011 03:02:10 +0100

I love the modern Sherlock, it is just so Sherlock! (duh) And I love how everyone asumes Sherlock and John are together :)

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Yirin — Sat, 22 Oct 2011 16:04:46 +0100

Anyone else doing a their NaNo-'11 about Sherlock? I love this show to pieces, especially how they have subtle references to the ACD canon (like the coffee cups with 'Criterion' on them <3) and the perfect chemistry between Sherlock and John (really whoever thought of putting Benedict and Martin in the same room together is a genious!!)

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Elaine Dalton — Sun, 23 Oct 2011 03:05:41 +0100

Sherlock is way cool! I can't wait till spring when the new episodes will air. ;)

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Zenxara — Sun, 23 Oct 2011 19:15:54 +0100

I hear of it trough tumblr. Dear god. I never read the book before but the show made me order ( library) all the Sherlock Holmes books! ( only by Sir Arthur Doyle though.) Benedict Cumberbatch is Sherlock.

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Wendigo_Psychosis — Sun, 23 Oct 2011 21:51:55 +0100

I absolutely adore this show! I think it's brilliant. Benedict is an amazing actor, as is Martin Freeman. The two work quite well together. I'm excited for the next season!

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hamlet_ophelia_xoxo — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 00:33:13 +0100

Yeah, anyone else a Sherlock/Watson shipper? I'm certainly a onesided shipper. :D

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Yirin — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 20:39:23 +0100

Hell yes, I'm a John/Sherlock shipper (though no slash in my novel though.. just friendship in there) I'm also a fan of the (to be honest weird) pairing Mystrade (they don't even meet in the series! I mean what the hell? xD ...Still cute though <3)

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sophie — Wed, 26 Oct 2011 21:02:16 +0100

Can't wait for it to start again! It's taking way too long! ;Love it!

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S22K — Fri, 28 Oct 2011 13:28:09 +0100

I screamed "YES!!!" when I saw the thread, I think that's a good hint on my feelings for it... Also I love Benedict Cumberbatch, and I think Martin Freeman looks great in his sweaters.

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CesarioViola — Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:35:30 +0000

Brilliant series. Just... epic. I love how they make it so action-packed, but with enough humour to make it epic. I adore Sherlock himself... both the cold, calculating Benedict Cumberbatch (eep! *fangirls*) and the Basil Rathbone versions. It's also great, all the references to the originals. "How's the diet?" "FINE." Can barely wait for it to come back!

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Itzika — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 02:34:08 +0000

I'm a fan of the romantic pairing, but I see Sherlock as 100% asexual, so I get really annoyed when people start having them have sex in fanfiction. It just makes me go "Why? When has Sherlock ever displayed a desire for this? And what is wrong with just having them, you know, be romantic together?"

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Itzika — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 02:36:24 +0000

I adore this series. I didn't like episode 2 that much, and after reading this thread I think I see why; but I had one major problem with episode 1 that no one has mentioned. I forget what book I was reading that said as a mystery writer, you must never let your audience think they are smarter than your hero. And as soon as Sherlock said "Who do we trust even though we don't know them?" I went "Cab drivers" and spent the whole rest of the episode yelling at him for not getting it.

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TenajHguoh — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 05:45:49 +0000

I absolutely adore this show. I'm drinking in any photos people have posted of the filming to help with the agonizing wait.

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noddy — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 08:24:44 +0000

Oh God. I love this show. I have legitimate feelings for every aspect of this show. One of the few detectives shows that I can continually watch over and over. Though, admittedly, it's only three episodes. Still they're incredible. Benedict and Martin and Andrew Scott (Good gracious, his Moriarty is phenomenal).

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SilveryBeing — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 02:08:14 +0000

I remember years ago in high school I had an idea for Sherlock Holmes set in the present day. The writing was horrible of course, but I was so tickled to see that I wasn't alone in my idea. I can not WAIT for the next season!

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SetsunaSakamoto — Fri, 04 Nov 2011 02:31:15 +0000

I love this show! I immediately fell in love with it. Instantaneously, even. My only gripe about the show is I don't like who they have playing Moriarty. He's too... short. I was expecting the tall, dark-haired, moustache'd kind of guy. And yeah, that's my fault for expecting something, but I just don't like him. His voice annoys the *bleep* out of me. The way he talks just gets on my last nerve. I remember the first time I watched episode 3... I literally screamed at the TV when the cliffhanger happened. THE worst cliffhanger in any TV show, movie, or book. EVER.

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agreysky — Sun, 06 Nov 2011 00:51:27 +0000

I just discovered this on Netflix, and I'm already addicted. In fact, I'm watching it right now when I should be writing. It's so... beautiful and brilliant and I bought a Sherlock Holmes book collection today because I'm slowly becoming obsessed with him, in all forms.

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Random da Shea — Sun, 06 Nov 2011 07:01:27 +0000

I am a massive Moriarty fan. *deep nod* High pitched sing-song and all. I've even written fanfic for him.

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bookworm36 — Sun, 06 Nov 2011 07:49:58 +0000

As evidenced by my icon, j'dore Sherlock, and the wait for new episodes is killing me slowly. (They were originally for late 2011 before they were delayed.) I'm a huge fan of the originals and the show is such a good revival. Cannot wait!

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bookworm36 — Sun, 06 Nov 2011 07:53:53 +0000

That entire scene analysing the phone? They fit it so closely to the original. It was amazing.

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premiumcider — Sun, 06 Nov 2011 08:11:41 +0000

I love Moriarty, because I never expected him to be portrayed that way. He's fun!

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Hanka — Mon, 07 Nov 2011 18:42:08 +0000

I just LOVE it :) This new Sherlock is so funny and crazy and also the actor of Watson is better than all the others I know. Great new interpretation.

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IceCreamAddict — Wed, 09 Nov 2011 04:22:45 +0000

I almost thought there wasn't a Sherlock thread, and would've died a bit as a result :P. I discovered it last year on netflix, and have been obsessed with it ever since. If someone could make a decent Dr. Who and Sherlock crossover fanfic my life would be complete *cough* *hint hint* Anyways, I love the show I think it's brilliant, the only thing I like Setsuna don't like Moriarty. I think his character may prove interesting especially him toying with Sherlock in future episodes. However, his voice is just too irritating.

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reginabookworm — Wed, 09 Nov 2011 17:52:31 +0000

Have you checked all the Wholock on Tumblr? if you're willing to wade through all the crap, there is some good stuff there. I cannot wait for the new episodes to come out in May. I think I'll have to take a sabbatical from the Internet entirely from January until May, the spoilers would be too tempting.

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Sciolet — Thu, 10 Nov 2011 19:02:53 +0000

Same here^^

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SonoraStClair — Thu, 08 Dec 2011 17:41:18 +0000

Well, mark your calendars, guys. Two hours ago Moffatt tweeted that new episodes begin on January 1! Now if only he'd say when they're out in America... :(

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-happyness- — Thu, 08 Dec 2011 21:16:23 +0000

Damn you beat me to it... I can't wait!

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FlameRaven — Thu, 08 Dec 2011 21:56:47 +0000

[quote]Now if only he'd say when they're out in America... :([/quote] Well, that's what the Internet is for....

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SonoraStClair — Thu, 08 Dec 2011 22:03:07 +0000

Well, as this is final exams week, I was too busy and too scatterbrained to Google it.

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Lauriloth — Fri, 09 Dec 2011 19:45:37 +0000

I am SO ecstatic to hear it is starting back on the first of January! I can barely contain myself! :D

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bobo_the_bard — Sat, 10 Dec 2011 04:48:40 +0000

I can't wait! I just watched the first episode, and instantly got hooked. I really have to watch the others! I am trying to space them out, because there are only 3 of them. =(

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Keladryie — Sat, 10 Dec 2011 15:53:08 +0000

I've read it'll be in May sometime, in America.

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vampirequeen — Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:23:06 +0000

I am ridiculously obsessed with this show. Just...it's brilliance, in my opinion. I can't wait until January 1st!

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Chillibean — Sat, 17 Dec 2011 03:14:51 +0000

I found it a few days ago >.< And watched the third episode before the first, but anyway. Yes, I'm late, but better late than never ^^ And OHMYGOSH IT'S SO GOOD 8DDDD I almost went crazy when my computer stopped playing any videos (since the next time A Study in Pink plays on TV is Christmas Eve, and I cannot wait that long) but it's fine now :)

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thewordlover — Sun, 18 Dec 2011 23:44:21 +0000

I love this series. It is absolutely brilliant. Martin Freeman and Benedict Cumberbatch are both fantastic, and also Rupert Graves (Lestrade) and Andrew Scott (Moriarty- he made a HUGE impression on me despite the very small amount of screen time. Such a good actor!). And all the other supporting actors. The story, the dynamic with John and Sherlock... I'll stop gushing now. But I LOVE Sherlock, and am so excited to series 2.

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Spaghetti7 — Mon, 02 Jan 2012 02:03:33 +0000

I just finished watching the new episode of Sherlock and all I can say is wow. I don't want to post a bunch of spoilers since it just showed today but that was amazing! I was a little bit nervous about Irene Adler but everything was better than I could've possibly hoped. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go back and watch it again knowing everything that I now know from the beginning :)

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premiumcider — Mon, 02 Jan 2012 09:28:54 +0000

Just saw it. Hard to keep up with some bits with no subtitles, but it was still good. Need to re-watch it later.

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HarpGuy — Tue, 03 Jan 2012 18:34:11 +0000

I liked that last one, but the resolution to that cliffhanger was AWFUL. I hate Moffat and his inability to resolve a plot thread properly x(

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Spaghetti7 — Wed, 04 Jan 2012 02:45:09 +0000

Really? What exactly bugged you about it? I thought it was a little bit anticlimactic after waiting a year for the next season, but I thought it all worked together well enough and even though it they didn't pay a lot of attention to it, they did explain why it went down that way at the end of the episode.

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HarpGuy — Wed, 04 Jan 2012 17:39:02 +0000

It just seemed silly and a massive let-down...

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premiumcider — Wed, 04 Jan 2012 19:16:32 +0000

I liked the resolution, but then I also really like the silly bits in Sherlock. Sure, something really clever would have been impressive, but perhaps this was more unexpected than some of the smarter alternatives they might have considered.

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Lauriloth — Wed, 04 Jan 2012 22:24:11 +0000

Watched the new one last night! Total love! Although honestly, I liked the others better than this episode. I don't really know why, they were just more funnier or something. *shrugs* But still, it was great! The epicness of the very ending completely blew me away. I just loved it! And I rather enjoyed the resolution to the cliffhanger myself as well. I can see how some people wouldn't, but I kind of died from laughter from it to be honest. I agree with premiumcider, I love all the funny parts.

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Emgem2000 — Fri, 06 Jan 2012 17:21:11 +0000

I'm a new fan! I went round to my friend's to do History revision the other day, and we ended up watched all of the first series... And then I watched the new one last night. Love them - although I'm always scared that Mrs Hudson will die and I don't know why but I still am... Love Sherlock!

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Leanerlaura — Sun, 08 Jan 2012 17:12:51 +0000

I absolutely adore this show that wait between series 1 and 2 was soooooo agonizing, the only time I was dissapointed was by the cliffhanger solution in 2x01, maybe because I read an advanced review that said that the resolution of the cliffhanger was amazing, I don't know what I was expecting, something a bit more.....dramatic maybe? but that is the tiniest little blip in the amazingness that this show emits, really enjoyed all the love Sherlock and Watson are showing to Mrs Hudson :L Majorly excited for tonights episode :D

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SonoraStClair — Mon, 16 Jan 2012 00:38:45 +0000

I loved the way they resolved the cliffhanger. I can see how it would really annoy some people -- we wait all this time, expecting something terrifying, and instead it's *funny*... but I liked it that way, since it was so surprising. That's what I really love about this show, it's never predictable. And it was confirmed today, there *will* be a third series! Just hope we don't have to wait another year, but considering the schedules of everyone involved, it's certainly possible. :(

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premiumcider — Mon, 16 Jan 2012 10:14:13 +0000

Oh God the things John has to put up with... Why did these three weeks have to go by so fast?

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BusterBrown — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 03:03:02 +0000

Srsly. The next series isn't until 2013. Very sad. I liked the last episode, though. It had some problems, but where it was good, it was brilliant. I feel so terrible for John, and actually Mycroft, a bit. It may be his fault and all, but still. Even though there's only one scene, you can see what a state he's in.

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Earthsick — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 12:37:29 +0000

Oh my, I still have to watch two episodes ... and re-watch one because the stream broke off all the time, lol. While I'm not one of the biggest fans around I have to admit that this series is extremely interesting. :D I like how they transported Sherlock Holmes to the 21st century. Also, John! <33

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SonoraStClair — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 20:58:32 +0000

Not exactly on topic, but what do you guys think about the CBS version? Seems like it's going to be pretty much a carbon copy of Sherlock, only it's to take place in *New York City*. And the title is 'Elementary', of all things. I thought they were kidding at first. I don't know if I'll watch it or not -- it's such an obvious rip-off, and it could never be as good as Sherlock. I really wish CBS would just play that instead. Here's the article.

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SonoraStClair — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 20:59:43 +0000

Sorry, never posted a link before, and it's not working for some reason. Here's the long version instead: http://www.deadline.com/2012/01/cbs-greenlights-dana-calvokevin-falls-legal-drama-pilot/

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premiumcider — Wed, 18 Jan 2012 08:54:34 +0000

They are making an American version of Sherlock? I hearing you correctry? HAA! Well, they can do whatever they want I certainly won't watch it either way (well, I might if they show it on TV here and curiosity gets the better of me). I just don't see how it can be half as good without Ben and Martin and Mark and Steven.

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SonoraStClair — Wed, 18 Jan 2012 16:09:33 +0000

Well, they're not outright calling it an American version of Sherlock, but from what they've described it comes across as basically the same premise, but set in New York for some reason. They claim they've had the idea of doing a modern Holmes for quite a while, but it's certainly not a coincidence that they're only starting on it now that they've seen how popular Sherlock is. Like when the first CSI series started and got popular, so suddenly every channel started making crime-solving shows. The show's still in it's very early stages, so it probably won't be out until at least late this year or early next year. It'll be interesting to see if they try to do anything original or just blatantly steal the BBC's idea, which is what it seems like at this point.

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Lauriloth — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 03:27:01 +0000

I'm not happy at all with CBS. Sherlock is so amazing, there is no possible way to live up to it, so why bother? I don't know. I just wish they wouldn't do it. But on another note, what was everyone's opinion on the finale? O.o As well as this season in general? I, personally, was not nearly impressed with this season as last. The first season was beyond spectacular. It was just brilliant in every way possible. This season was more...um...average, as my brother put it. Sherlock supposed to be beyond believable, this season wasn't really. Don't get me wrong, I thought it was really, really good! Just not Sherlock good if that makes sense. It is torturous having to wait yet another year for 3 more episodes though. Meh.

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Spaghetti7 — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 07:47:57 +0000

I still haven't quite decided what I think of this season compared to the first. I just got a chance to sit down and watch the last episode, I haven't had a chance to digest everything yet and I definitely want to watch them all again. On one hand, I think a large part of what made the first three episodes so amazing was the way that they presented Sherlock in such a new way and I can understand that it must be hard to write a second series and give it the same WOW effect when people already sorta know what to expect. On the other hand, there were a few things that mildly disappointed me, although I think it mostly had to do with all my insanely high expectations. Overall, I thought it was brilliant and I can't wait to see how everything works out in the third series, even if it is a year away. There were a few little things that I really didn't like, mostly relating to the plot and the way they chose to translate/change the original stories (particularly in the second episode) but it won't stop me from being one of the first in line to buy a copy when this series comes out on DVD :)

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premiumcider — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 08:58:13 +0000

The first season was just so WOW, it felt so fresh, it was like nothing I had ever seen before. The second was still really good and I love it too. There are perhaps some things in the way of characterization that puzzles me The first season led you to believe that Sherlock had perhaps some minor sociopathic tendencies and hardly ever showed any *real* emotions apart from excitement for a case and in the second season he was so worked up after seeing the hound, which I found a bit weird. It just made me theorize that it was just a set up for that conflict between him and John so he could drug him later. It hasn't been confirmed, but it's not unlikely. I also got the sense that he wasn't exactly in the same "sparkling form" as he had been in the first season, incorrectly deducing that a nicely wrapped present meant Molly had a boyfriend being the one example I can come up with at the top of my head. I have theories on that moment too, but still. Even so, it was a wonderful and emotionally draining series that didn't disappoint me in ways of humour and ho yay and I'm waiting for the third season with great anticipation. And as for things he did in the last episode that were OOC: He said: "Get Anderson!" That must be the vital clue that nobody has spotted. Well, until now.

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Earthsick — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 10:55:42 +0000

No offense, but the massive amount of series and movies set in the US, especially in New York makes the setting seem ... ... dull. And overused. /: BBC Sherlock is especially nice for me since it's set mostly in London. I've only been to London twice and loved it. Seeing the Sherlock opening with Picadilly Circus always gets me excited.

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csjs95 — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 03:51:57 +0000

I'm probably going to take some heat for this, but does anyone else /not/ ship John and Sherlock? I've been a fan of the original stories by Sir ACD for quite some time now, and it really irritates me that the "fandom" seems to be sure that John and Sherlock are in love with one another. Even my best friend has turned against me and is trying to convince me of it. I've tried to explain to her that it's a distortion of the original story. John and Sherlock are like BROTHERS! Nothing more!

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Lauriloth — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 21:29:41 +0000

I am so with you! I cannot stand this ridiculous shipping. You are completely right, they are like brothers. I love a good brotherly friendship between male characters. I've been rather proud how they stay fairly true to the original story, except for this thing. It perturbs me greatly. So you are not alone, no.

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Spaghetti7 — Sat, 28 Jan 2012 21:54:56 +0000

Yes, definitely! I mean, it is funny in the series how everyone assumes they're together, and I'm sure in today's setting it would be the sort of misconception they'd get used to dealing with, but I hate how the fans feel like it gives them the excuse to distort their relationship.

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Spaghetti7 — Sat, 28 Jan 2012 21:56:20 +0000

Not to say that I have something against fan fiction. People are free to write what they like. But when they act like it's implied in the series, that gets on my nerves.

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Earthsick — Tue, 31 Jan 2012 07:36:21 +0000

I love how all the people who are against shipping have to capitalize all the letters in their opinions and have to use the word "hate", while shipping is about "love". Just ignore it. I can ignore people shipping my favourte characters of any show with characters I don't think they would be together too without loudly voicing my opinion about it on the forums because frankly, that's even more annoying than any ship there is.

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SonoraStClair — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 05:06:39 +0000

Well, it is called Fans **and Critics**. People are allowed to voice their opinions both ways. If you find that annoying, visit a different forum. Anyway, I dislike how prevalent the slash is too. I love fan fiction, since some of the stories are amazing, but it's rather annoying to wade through ten pages of slashy stuff to find anything else... Ah well. I can definitely see where the idea comes from and it's made for some pretty hilarious scenes in the show, so I won't complain too much, although it does really get on my nerves when people find out I don't ship them and start relentlessly trying to change my mind (this has happened three times already). Changing track slightly, I'm curious: what did you guys think of this version of Irene?

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premiumcider — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 08:09:47 +0000

I haven't read the book, so I don't know what Irene is like in it. I do prefer the Pulver version to the McAdams version, but the show is just better and I don't like the films anyway. I know she's supposed to be this impressive woman to Sherlock, and that's all fine. But... The fact that Sherlock outsmarts her because she, even 'though she's claimed she's a lesbian, had a crush on him, that doesn't have a very feminist ring to my ears. It's no big deal, I think a good show is more important than making a point, but for someone who was supposed to be so impressive... I surprised she didn't have a different password, and that she couldn't set her feelings aside when she selected it. But that's probably just over analysing it anyway.

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Spaghetti7 — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 15:43:27 +0000

I thought Laura Pulver was a great actress, she definitely held her own against Cumberbatch and Freeman. BUT, the ending ticked me off. I was slightly annoyed when Sherlock finally got into her phone, but what really disappointed me was the way she nearly got herself killed and Sherlock had to run off and rescue her. Really? It seemed weak on both their parts. I would've much preferred to see her dead or to have Mycroft's story about her be true.

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Arya Svit-Kona — Thu, 08 Mar 2012 09:30:05 +0000

Alrighty... season 2.... amazing. But the end! The end! It's still killing me and it's almost been two months now! I have my theory though.... and it's not the truck theory. Frankly, that theory's starting to annoy me, but.... I digress. I'ma thinking that Sherlock actually did fall. It is possible to survive falls from that kind of height and judging by Sherlock's brains, he would have been able to judge the possible outcomes and various angles so that he would have the greatest chance of surviving. Plus.... "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth." The other theories i can think of and have seen I have deemed impossible. Falling is improbably.... but not impossible. As for CBS. I was going to give them a chance.... until they introduced the female 'Joan' Watson. I'm sorry, but you do not make Watson a girl just to give the show some romance and you do not wreck his/her backstory.

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premiumcider — Fri, 09 Mar 2012 08:39:37 +0000

Joan... Watson? You are kidding. Right? *Googles* Lucy Liu cast as Joan Watson? *Sigh* I know that nobody will make me watch it or anything, but... seriously, they're just not *trying* to be original or creative. Joan is just their way to cram every cliché in the world into the show (read: will they, won't they) They are just interested in cash, as usual. (Cue Jim Moriarty: "You're just getting this *now*?")

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Arya Svit-Kona — Mon, 12 Mar 2012 02:15:21 +0000

Seriously. Unfortunately, I'm not kidding. They're actually trying to be so original and creative, they just created another cliche'd American crime show. They might as well change the character's names and they might have a hit show.

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jefflion — Thu, 03 May 2012 10:37:43 +0100

A bit late for the party, but yes, I'm a fan. Not excited about "Elementary", though. I like Lucy Liu, but she'd make a much better Holmes than Watson, imo. Plus, if they wanted to do a gender bending, why didn't they make both Holmes and Watson females? Anyway, it has nothing to do with BBC Sherlock. That one is amazing. Benedict Cumberbatch is one of the best Sherlocks ever (imo). Very talented.

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jefflion — Thu, 03 May 2012 10:42:13 +0100

Oh, and I think series 2 was better than 1. But I only discovered this show in 2012. So I had 6 episodes to love innitially instead of 3.

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Earthsick — Fri, 04 May 2012 06:03:13 +0100

Making both Holmes and Watson female would probably get me to watch this. Haha. Because, I only realized this much later ... Holmes is like the ultimate asexual heteroromantic hero. That's quite unique, imho. Usually everyone tries to get their main character into some kind of relationship with another character. It's different wih Holmes. I salute to the author, haha. With Watson being a woman and Holmes still a man I thing there'll be something ridiculous ahead ...

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Brightdreamer — Mon, 07 May 2012 06:50:28 +0100

Just saw the Americanized first episode of Season 2 on PBS... Can we say "hatchet job?" I've seen the BBC originals (I have my sources...). There's got to be at least twenty minutes worth of footage floating in the mid-Atlantic. The first season episodes, on PBS, ran pretty much the full 90 minutes. This thing started at 9 and ended by 10:20... and there was a nearly-ten-minute block lost to the "not-ads" and Masterpiece host babble between the opening bit and the starting credits. The flow, the logic... just not what it was supposed to be. I don't suppose anyone knows if they did the same to the Region 1 DVDs? (I mean, I didn't think the Brits thought much of us Yanks anyways, but this is just insulting...)

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Arya Svit-Kona — Wed, 09 May 2012 11:23:51 +0100

Yer, I saw the original ages ago online and I've heard that they cut a lot. Apparently the fans on Tumblr are raging about how they removed the scene where Sherlock shows John the stolen ashtray. *shakes head* America really shouldn't cut stuff...

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Arya Svit-Kona — Wed, 09 May 2012 11:25:24 +0100

That's what I'm really worried most about with Elementary. Holmes is practically notorious for being asexual, but I'd be prepared to bet everything I have that they will create a romantic relationship between him and the female Watson.

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Earthsick — Wed, 09 May 2012 12:14:13 +0100

Oh, wait a minute, there's an "US version" that is different from the original that BBC aired? Ouch, you poor people. That's just cruel. D: I'm not sure about the DVDs I could get around here since I never watched the german dub of the series (from what I saw of the preview it doesn't sound too good anyway, plus they chose a voice actor I can't stand for Martin Freeman). They would have a different region code anyway, my bad. Um, general suggestion: get the british DVDs and a region free DVD player? (To my surprise my PS3 could also play DVDs from different regions without any complaint.)

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Brightdreamer — Wed, 09 May 2012 16:01:59 +0100

Apparently, fannish analysts claim only about 10 minutes was actually cut (still not sure I believe that), but it completely altered the flow of the storyline... and, considering how nearly every scene establishes character and builds toward the finale, it's gonna really affect the overall mytharc. Scenes like the ashtray, and the background bits where the support network for Sherlock kicks into gear without his actually noticing it... So far, early word is that the American DVDs are going to be the full BBC run, but I'll believe it when I see it. And, yes, we get edited versions of BBC stuff. Apparently, PBS asked for the pared-down version so they could stick more ads into their "commercial free" presentation. They say the series creator actually did the cutting... which is why I have to wonder what he really thinks of us Americans. (Is this about that CBS version ripping you off? Really, it's not gonna last. Even if it defies the network television norm and actually is brilliant, it won't last. Nothing to worry about...)

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jefflion — Mon, 14 May 2012 10:51:49 +0100

It's official (Elementary, I mean). As a fan of BBC Sherlock, of course I go: "how many Sherlock adaptations do we really need?", but I don't think that's the main issue. The main issue to me are three problems: 1) If you want to do a gender bending, why not making both Holmes and Watson females? Now that's a show I'd like to see; 2) Lucy Liu is born to play Holmes, not Watson and 3) How are they going to deconstruct the stories and modernize them - are they even aware of the importance of this step? A modern reinterpretation with Victorian "vibe" is what works so beautifully in BBC Sherlock and I am not sure if these guys are prepared to do it. I don't know if Elementary would suck or not, but I have a feeling it won't be Sherlock Holmes- like in anything, except the name. So yes, it's obvious they want to cash in on the success of BBC Sherlock. As for the cuts, yes, they were requested to fit the time slot. They had to cut 8 minutes. I know people complained about "Scandal", and I'm not sure if they've done the same with last night's "Baskerville" (USians, any info here?) With Raichenbach coming next week, I wonder if these cuts may reveal something about the plot, since people obsess about every single detail of this episode.

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jefflion — Mon, 14 May 2012 10:53:23 +0100

The DVDs should be intact.

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MalcolmCooms — Tue, 15 May 2012 23:23:30 +0100

So, I know this is cutting into the flow of the thread, but I've just gotten through a large portion of "A Study in Pink". ASDGFH:!@:GTKHP(_LFKDGL NO WORDS. This is ridiculously good. I don't know the name of the lead actor (easy to look up, I know, but I'm not in the mood to bother) but whoever he is his interpretation of Holmes is really incredibly accurate. The only interpretation I like more is Robert Downey Jr.s-and his interpretation, while more entertaining and really pretty accurate itself, is definitely NOT as accurate as the Sherlock version of Holmes. Watson is perfect (he doesn't have a mustache, but since it's a modern interpretation I'm willing to forgive a small cosmetic issue such as that). The portrayal of the character is spot on. Jude Law did an excellent job, but the movie interpretation of Watson made him, frankly, too smart-he's really a bit slow on the uptake, if we're really being honest with ourselves. I think the show grasps Watson's character perfectly. The integration of modern technology is perfect, the small threads connecting the reconstructed plot to the original plot are perfect...everything is nearly flawless. Lestrade is a bit smarter than he is in the original stories/books, but then his role is taken pretty well by that black woman who goes around with him, so that's forgivable. In short: I loved it.

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MalcolmCooms — Tue, 15 May 2012 23:25:33 +0100

YES YES YES YES YES. Thank you.

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jefflion — Wed, 16 May 2012 06:34:09 +0100

Glad you liked it! The actor's name is Benedict Cumberbatch. He's an excellent actor. He's the acting revelation of the year for me so I might slip into the fan-girlish mode, but I have a great respect for him as an actor. He's truly good. While I like RDJ and the whole steampunk take on Sherlock Holmes, BBC Sherlock is a masterpiece. They've created a perfect mix of modern world and Victorian canon. It's everywhere, this Victorian "vibe", from the way their flat is decorated to Sherlock's coat and the way he carries himself. You can't get a better actor for this job, imo. Watson (played by Martin Freeman) is... Well, I wouldn't call him slow in this version. He's just more depressed and troubled than your usual Watson's. He's suffering from PTSD and while this issue is not really explored in the episodes, he carries this with himself. He's still a Sherlock's moral compass and we still watch the story mainly through his POV, but this version offers a deeper Watson, not an everyday, ordinary guy Watson. Freeman plays this difference subtly, but it's there. Another excellent performance. I agree Lestrade is smarter than his usual incarnations, but frankly, I like it this way. Just because Sherlock is genius doesn't mean the whole police force has to be incompetent. I also love show's take on Mycroft and Moriarty. I don't want to spoil anything for you, but Moriarty is quite polarizing, because it's not done the way you'd expect this character to be. Some people hated the character for this, but I loved this reading of the character. PS- The second episode is a let down. Don't give up on the show, though! The rest of them are good. And oh, my, second season.

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premiumcider — Wed, 16 May 2012 09:54:47 +0100

I like how the creators described Lestrade as somebody who would be capable of solving all the cases himself, except he goes to Sherlock because he does it quicker. It would be fun to see Lestrade solve something without Sher for that reason... I know the show is about Sherlock, but... if they had two mysteries in one episode... It could be done... And I just love how John, in spite of being so ordinary and un-quirky, doesn't end up in Sherlock's shadow. He still feels just as important, even if Sherlock still does everything and mocks all of John's ideas and theories. Perhaps Elementary will be great, or good in it's own way, who knows? I really liked House before it got repetitive, so why not?

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jefflion — Wed, 16 May 2012 10:19:55 +0100

The thing is, I don't think John is "ordinary". He is better with people and knows how to behave. But I think one of the reasons this Watson is so good (apart from Martin Freeman's talent) is that he's not just an "everyman". He is interesting in his own right; a war veteran suffering from PTSD, depressed, carrying a (I assume) illegal weapon, shooting people to save the guy he met the day before, suffering when there's no excitement around him, etc. That is pretty interesting and not "usual" in any way. As for Elementary, I don't want to bash it just because it's another Holmes adaptation set in modern day. But I seriously don't think they have anything interesting to offer, apart from Watson being a woman, and it just creates a new dynamics, which I\m not sure I like. It's one thing when Watson is a white guy admiring another white guy, and another one when a Watson is a woman of colour admiring a white dude. If they wanted to do a gender bending, they should have made both leads females. Plus, Lucy Liu is born to play Holmes, not Watson. Furthermore, they can't use anything BBC Sherlock introduced, so their take on the cases and their take on updating the canon has to be different. BBC Sherlock is strong at mixing the modern technology and contemporary ways with Victorian vibe, but the accent is on the man himself and his relationship with John. I guess Elementary has to focus on other things, and they'll probably focus on the cases themselves, given the fact they'll have more episodes. But this will be tricky to pull off, since their episodes will be shorter and therefore may seem rushed. And if they do it in a good way, it would make a great show, but it won't be Sherlock Holmes in anything but the name. House worked as a contemporary Sherlock Holmes adaptation because he went back to the origins of the canon and deconstructed things and put them in new perspective. ACD based Sherlock Holmes on a doctor he knew, so they made a show about a doctor solving medical cases Sherlock Holmes like. I think it was a clever way to go (like you said, before it became repetitive). But it was unique, and while clearly Sherlock Holmes inspired, it was fresh and it was new. Robert Downey Jr movies may be silly and too action backed, but they offer yet another new reading of the stories. They went with steampunk vibe and explored the lesser-known Holmes attributes, such as drug use and martial arts. Think what you want about the director, I think this new reading makes certain sense. BBS Sherlock offer a new reading in a way of modernization. It's Sherlock set in 21st century. It is obviously set in contemporary world, but it also has a strong Victorian "vibe" (from the way their apartment is set to main character's costumes and the way Cumberbatch carries himself). It's a clever mix of contemporary stuff and Victorian canon, just like you'd think a contemporary update might look. So, where does that leave Elementary? What else they can use to distinguish themselves from other adaptations? I'd say, gender bending where both Holmes and Watson are females is one way to go, but obviously they don't want to do it. Then, what? What can they bring? I am sure there is something, but I am NOT sure if they are going to consider this. I have a feeling it will be yet another crime show with unresolved sexual tension between two leads. Again, this might not be bad, but it won't be Sherlock Holmes except in name. Unless they figure how to make the guy really unique/interesting (and different than Cumberbatch/RDJ/Laurie/Brett/Rathbone/etc.) AND how to make his dynamics with Lucy Liu interesting and compelling. Again, it's not impossible... But I don't really think it would happen.

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MalcolmCooms — Wed, 16 May 2012 23:23:30 +0100

Two things: 1, I felt cheated with Mycroft. He was absolutely nothing like canon Mycroft except that he was smart and part of the British government. Everything else was completely different. Still, it was pretty funny. 2, What short story is "The Blind Banker" based off of? I looked through my collection and I don't see any stories/books with similar titles.

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Brightdreamer — Thu, 17 May 2012 05:30:53 +0100

1. Personally, I prefer the modern Mycroft. Canon has Mycroft behaving as so many English lords behaved: mostly sitting around the club and pointedly Doing Nothing because he has that luxury, save his implied work for the government. That kind of lazy self-indulgent lordling just wouldn't fly in modern times. Moving him to the very center of the web, as it were, still working from an armchair but actively using the intellect that Holmes so often (in the stories) considered superior to his own... well, it's more interesting than sitting around the Diogenes Club. (Though we do get to see the Diogenes Club in Season 2...) We also see more of how Mycroft really is looking out for Sherlock, in his way, even though Sherlock can't or won't see it. 2. Near as I can tell, the writers are merely drawing inspiration from the original stories; it's likely a hybrid of two or more tales.

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premiumcider — Thu, 17 May 2012 16:40:44 +0100

So I JUST saw the trailer to Elementary (wow, they honestly went through with this!). Ok, when I first saw the trailer to Sherlock, I knew- in spite of not being into detective shows nor Sherlock Holmes- that I had to see this. It looked GREAT! It looked DIFFERENT! FRESH. And more importantly, FUNNY. I can't say the same for Elementary. This guy who plays Sherlock in Elementary plays him differently, so I don't feel he is imitating Benedict or anything like that. But... There is no way I can look at it and NOT compare it to Sherlock and it is in NO way even HALF as good as Sherlock. There was nothing- in the trailer- that grabbed me and made me want to see more. The writing was not witty and the acting was mediocre (or just badly directed, or a victim of a bad script). It doesn't seem to offer anything genuinely new.

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jefflion — Thu, 17 May 2012 19:00:28 +0100

BBC Mycroft is one of the best versions of the characters, probably since he has more screen time than any other. It's also very intriguing character in his own right, and his scenes with Sherlock are a pure gold. You can just sense all of their history, the childhood, and you can feel there's something very bad in their past, but I am glad they never showed us any of it. It's there, but it's hinted, not "in your face". A good example of "show, don't tell" and "don't bore people with a back story, but hint it so people can understand characters better". As for the Blind Banker, I don't remember any ACD story, but then again, I'm hardly an ACD expert. But this episode is a let down in so many ways (racefail being just one of them). Still, even if it's the worst in the whole show, it's still better than most of the stuff you can watch on TV, and it's full of good Sherlock and John moments. But it's worse than a Study in Pink (which is the best episode in series 1 and, arguably, one of the best pilots I've ever seen), and it is the weakest episode in the show.

Re: BBC Sherlock

jefflion — Thu, 17 May 2012 19:02:30 +0100

To be honest, it's not a train wreck, and it might be a solid crime drama. But there's nothing Sherlockian in it. Nothing. I suspect it won't be Sherlock Holmes in anything but the name. So I don't see the point. It's clear they want to cash in on the success of BBC show, and they even approached BBC team to remake Sherlock for the American audiences. Only when they said no, Elementary was born.

Re: BBC Sherlock

MalcolmCooms — Fri, 18 May 2012 03:04:56 +0100

Modern Mycroft does make more sense in context (and it was a nice little trick). He does make a reference to him having lost weight, so there is SOME connection to the book Mycroft (who, by the way, I thought was a very interesting and original character in his own right...although it's true that his "type" wouldn't fly in modern London).

Re: BBC Sherlock

Earthsick — Fri, 18 May 2012 05:46:42 +0100

Woah, without reading that mega long post by jefflion: I'm only now reading the books. I got myself those complete editions some time ago. Even though I only finished 'A Study in Scarlet' and I'm currently in the middle of 'The Sign of Four' I already love the characters. <3 I mean ... I'm a huge fan of bromantic relationships and even more so when it is in books. <3 I just love how Sherlock asks John to think about the evidence and everything as if he was trying to teach John his techniques of deduction (btw, I think this is not so prominent in the TV series ... expect for 'The Great Game' when he asks John about the shoes). It might be foolish to say, but I don't want to give the american Sherlock any chance at all. Simply because they turned John into a woman and because it doesn't take where it should. D: John just doesn't work as a woman, really.

Re: BBC Sherlock

Arya Svit-Kona — Fri, 18 May 2012 23:19:57 +0100

I saw the trailer for 'Elementary' as well, and.... I really, really want to give this show a chance. I really want to let it try to be a different modern day Sherlock Holmes, but.... I really can't. It didn't look bad by all means, but it didn't really strike me as being about Sherlock Holmes. I saw more along the lines of the typical crime drama with a male and female lead that will more than likely get together in the end. I doubt it'll be bad by any means.... but I really think that it's just slapping the name on something that's not even close to Sherlock Holmes. I actually just watched the trailer for 'Sherlock', just to compare their trailers and the thing I noticed is that in the trailer for 'Sherlock', you can seriously see how eccentric Sherlock is, how he looks down on everybody else for not having his brains, how he always can deduce pretty much everything. You see what kind of person he is. You can clearly see his personality. But... it might have just been me, but in the trailer for 'Elementary', Sherlock seemed kind of.... bland. Maybe it'll be different on the show, but I saw nothing that defines him as a character, much less Sherlock Holmes. And Joan Watson... well, I could go on for hours about her. It doesn't work. It just doesn't. If you want a generbend, make them both female and be done with it. Do not make one female just so you can make a romance. Not every crime show has to have a huge romance aspect to it. And the fact that it's in Manhattan.... One of the things that makes Sherlock Sherlock is that he lives in 221B Baker Street! NOT Manhattan. And it really kind of ticks me off that CBS actually approached BBC to make an Americanized version of their show and then, when they were refused, made one of their own that is nothing like Sherlock Holmes. Talk about milking the cash cow.

Re: BBC Sherlock

jefflion — Sun, 20 May 2012 11:58:28 +0100

I don't think the show looks cheap or bad, and if it wasn't supposed to be a Sherlock Holmes adaptation, I might be even intrigued. But this way, no. Especially since it's clear they want to cash in on the success of Sherlock. It just doesn't seem promising. They will have to distance themselves from BBC Sherlock in order not to be sued, but they are also riding on its fame. I don't understand why they couldn't have yet another Sherlock Holmes inspired show, such as House? Or, if they wanted to do things differently, why didn't they both leads females? Or cast Lucy Liu as Holmes and Miller as Watson? In any case, it has nothing to do with BBC Sherlock. The last episode of series 2 airs tonight on PBS. Obviously, all Americans interested in it already saw it, but ok. I don't think anybody complains about watching this great episode one more time.