Pub names for 17th century winchester http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/historical-fiction/threads/22655 Cheriton1644 Right, so my heroine is currently fighting her way through the streets of 17th century winchester (english civil war) to the nearest ale house where the rest of her regiment are waiting (she was in the sealed knot, transported back in time blah) but i can't think of what to name said pub. I'd love to base it on a real pub in the city but the problem is that the oldest pubs in the city, the royal oak and eclipse, weren't actually pubs back then. Any ideas? Thu, 03 Nov 2011 11:39:25 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/historical-fiction/threads/22655?page=1#forum_thread_comment_433359 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/historical-fiction/threads/22655?page=1#forum_thread_comment_433359 randomcat The Bush is always safe, as is the Harp, the Crown and the _____ Arms. Cnut and others are buried in the cathedral..have funhttp://www.archive.org/stream/historyandantiq00whargoog/historyandantiq00whargoog_djvu.txt Thu, 03 Nov 2011 12:05:25 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/historical-fiction/threads/22655?page=1#forum_thread_comment_434037 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/historical-fiction/threads/22655?page=1#forum_thread_comment_434037 Eriadriel There is a 17th Century pub in Winchester called the First in, Last out - it was on a TV show called The Hotel Inspector. I know the building would be original to your period, and I'm fairly sure the name is too as there are a couple of pubs called that - one in Whitby too. Relates to their position in the town from the coaching days. There may be the episode online when they featured the place. Thu, 03 Nov 2011 12:17:14 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/historical-fiction/threads/22655?page=1#forum_thread_comment_434375 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/historical-fiction/threads/22655?page=1#forum_thread_comment_434375 stormy_weather Some of the buildings that now house Inns of Court were inns with taverns in the 17th century. Not sure when they changed functions, maybe early in the century when the Puritans were burning everything. Thu, 03 Nov 2011 12:36:50 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/historical-fiction/threads/22655?page=1#forum_thread_comment_434982 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/historical-fiction/threads/22655?page=1#forum_thread_comment_434982 Cheriton1644 ah thanks for that, didn't know the First In was a 17th century pub! Spent many evenings there in my student days! Thu, 03 Nov 2011 13:46:15 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/historical-fiction/threads/22655?page=1#forum_thread_comment_437195 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/historical-fiction/threads/22655?page=1#forum_thread_comment_437195 Eriadriel Ah, well maybe best not to watch it then as it was a bit weary looking in the show and might be a bit depressing! I do remember they made much of the fact it was an ancient coaching inn and the bulidngs looked like they could have been lovely - that nice, slightly moth-eaten brickwork outside and stonking great beams inside. Thu, 03 Nov 2011 14:00:27 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/historical-fiction/threads/22655?page=1#forum_thread_comment_437709 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/historical-fiction/threads/22655?page=1#forum_thread_comment_437709 samanthagard1 Hi, I grew up around Winchester and there are some very old pubs around there. I would check with their county records, or tourist board as they can find out amazing information for you Wed, 23 Nov 2011 09:45:38 -0800 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/historical-fiction/threads/22655?page=1#forum_thread_comment_819055 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/historical-fiction/threads/22655?page=1#forum_thread_comment_819055 Lollia-Sicana The White Hart would be an excellent one - as this was a popular name for 'inns' and later pubs from Plantagenet times onwards. Although originally associated with Cheshire in Richard II's time it gradually spread all over England. The Rose and Crown would also flourish everywhere, from Tudor times. As your lass is a 'Sealed Knot' time-traveller, I'm presuming she needs a Royalist pub? Around the time of the Civil Wars sprung The Eagle and Child - named from the standard of the Stanley family - huge Royalists in the civil wars - but again, the family had its main base further north than Hampshire, so I'm not sure that would be appropriate. Thu, 24 Nov 2011 16:31:26 -0800 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/historical-fiction/threads/22655?page=1#forum_thread_comment_834409 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/historical-fiction/threads/22655?page=1#forum_thread_comment_834409 Iago Grey ^^ All my answers have been stolen. :) I'm a Wintonian, born and bred. The Wykeham Arms is a fairly old pub. Let me just Google that. Ah, no, 18th century. :( Never mind then. **unhelpful comment is unhelpful** Sun, 27 Nov 2011 12:51:49 -0800 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/historical-fiction/threads/22655?page=1#forum_thread_comment_865204 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/historical-fiction/threads/22655?page=1#forum_thread_comment_865204 Turtoise Don't know if you need to know this anymore, but... Up until the 1940s (when the council rerouted the road) there used to be a pub called Plume of Feathers attached to the Westgate that I know was definitely standing (and a pub) in the early 18th century. The room above the Westgate was also once used as the pub's smoking room. It's gone now unfortunately, but if you stand on the little roundabout to the right of the gate then you'll be standing in the pub ;) Others include The George (demolished 1957), Godbegot (which I *think* is now the restaurant, Ask) and The Coach and Horses that later had a 18thC. facade whacked on over the original timber frame - all three were on the High Street, located at 94, 101-102, and 157 respectively. Hope this helps :) Thu, 15 Dec 2011 03:24:15 -0800 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/historical-fiction/threads/22655?page=1#forum_thread_comment_974831 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/historical-fiction/threads/22655?page=1#forum_thread_comment_974831