So are you wanting to know if you're writing LitFic and looking around for a corner of the room to hunker down in, but are nervous if you're really home? Ask here!
This is a judgment free thread to ask folks who are writing LitFic if they think you're writing LitFic. Responders are encouraged to be nice, and if something doesn't quite sound LitFicish, point them in the right direction.
Also use this thread to discuss what exactly LitFic Is, to you.
I'm pretty sure I'm about smack halfway between LitFic and Mainstream.
My story, The Astrologist, is definitely plot driven- it's about two women who work in a casino and their struggles to find their place in a male-dominated work environment, without sacrificing themselves in the process. But I'm going to use a funky narrative style- one woman is a clairvoyant, and can read everyone's thoughts. And I'll be addressing a lot of feminist issues. I guess what will ultimately decide it is the writing style, which I won't discover until I start writing. But any help would be appreciated! If you have any questions, please ask.
I may end up hanging around this forum either way- after all, the help I'm going to need will most likely be related to "higher" issues like characterization and themes- I've already got the plot mapped out. Also, this forum tends to be much busier!
I really can't say for sure if I'm writing LitFic but it just doesn't feel mainstream enough for, well, mainstream.
The main draw for my story, In/Out, is not necessarily in the style of writing but in the presentation. It begins with a car crash that sends the main character, Chris, hurtling into a pole. The rest of the story covers the next 5-8 minutes between the accident and Chris' eventual death. It's written as a first-person reflection on everything that got him into the car and everything he's going to lose when the final breath actually comes.
This is represented by each page's heading, which is either "In" or "Out" (with a few exceptions). Essentially, each page is a breath, and it gives me an opportunity to do some interesting things with his consciousness and the irregularity of his breath.
Chris definitely isn't a remarkable man and his story isn't exciting or punchy. There is definitely a plot "structure" but I would argue it's not the centrepoint of the story. It's not about how amazing Chris' life is or how unusual the events that occur are. It's about how the brain works in those final moments of anyone's life and how under those circumstances even the most inconsequential thing can be significant.
Any thoughts on where my story belongs would be appreciated! :)
I also love the sound of your novel MrJiff, and would really like to read it! So please get writing! :D
I think it is Lit Fic because of the issues you're engaging with, and focussing on one character's mental process, it's very thoughtful.
I also have a car accident in my novel, but my MC survives, and it functions to change his perspective on life and his purpose in the world. Happy writing!
I would really love to read this when you are done with it. I almost died in a car accident a month ago...and I can certainly assure you that the mind goes in a completely different place during something like that. So I am really interested in reading this. :) And I think it does belong in literary fiction.
Wow... your idea sounds absolutely amazing. If I'd read a summary like this on Amazon.com I'd buy it in a heartbeat. I'd love to read it when you're done! It sounds lit fit because it's character-driven.
That's really cool. I wrote a short story once that was sort of like that (but your idea is better). Mine was called tick-tock and it revolved around a spy that was about to be assassinated. There was a clock in the room and the tick and the tock of the clock drove the story. The entire story takes place in like 30 seconds while the person considers the ending of his life and the life that he had lived that got him to that point. I never really developed it all that well and it ended up being a shorter story than it should have been. I guess I never really finished it.
I would also love to read that. My novel also has an interesting exploration of breathing when it comes to reflection of life but it does not nearly last as long as yours and is nowhere near as creative. I love this idea though.
Readers of literary fiction are very often interested in the major literary awards. These would include The Booker Prize for Fiction, The National Book Awards, The National Book Critics Circle Awards, The Nobel Prize for Literature, The Pen/Faulkner Award for Fiction and The Pulitzer Prize. There are many excellent, comprehensive websites to refer to when looking for information on the recipients of these awards. Among the best are, The National Book Foundation, BookWeb.org, Booklist Center, and ALA Notable Books.
Omg, I think I found my genre! My novel is based on true events about one family's repeating cycle of abuse. I'm not sure who the main character is yet. At the moment, the story is largely episodic and spans at least two generations. It begins in 1950's Southern Italy. The daughter of a wealthy landowner disgraces herself by becoming pregnant. Knowing he can not arrange a properly politically advantageous marriage for her, her father arranges for her to marry one of his share croppers. The sharecropper takes his new bride back to the village of his birth.
I will be addressing feminist issues, issues of abuse, alcoholism, and mental illness.
I'm not sure what my genre is. I'm a bit of a procrastinator so I don't have a definitive plan of where my story is going to go, but the general idea is that a young woman named Armistead is trying to find a purpose in her life after quitting her job as an English teacher, and she ends up taking care of her dead sister's seven year old son named Matthew and and old student named Giac who is an war veteran who has lost his leg. Armistead has no purpose because she has no friends, no job, and nothing to fall back on. Matthew has no family except for Armistead, and Giac is disabled and suffers from the mental after effects of the war.
So the whole story is about purpose and having a niche in life. But then again, it's not. Armistead begins to find her purpose because Giac begins to tell Matthew these fantastical tales, and Armistead begins to write them down. The three become so invested in the tales because it's all they have to cling to. In these parts, the story sort of becomes a fantasy. So it could actually go under the fantasy genre. I'm not sure. Any ideas as to what I should aim more towards? Lit Fiction or Fantasy?
I am writing a fiction novel that correlates directly with my life experiences - let downs, depression, generalized anxiety disorder, and borderline personality disorder. I need to get it out on paper, and I thought this could be a good outlet for me, but I'm not sure if it would be classified as Literary Fiction.
Hi sbingram12, I would say yes your novel is almost certainly Literary Fiction. Some mainstream fiction deals with these issues but it sounds to me the way you're writing it is going to be more introspective and artistic than predominantly concerned with commercial appeal. My qualification for suggesting it is Lit Fic is that I have 2 degrees in studying literature, and specialise in modern lit :) I hope this helps. Writing is a great therapy
My God. I never think about genre when I read a book. Perhaps because I like to read a lot of genres. This is proving to be one of the most difficult things about nanowrimo so far for me. Help is appreciated, because if I ever look for an editor or agent I'll apparently have to know this. Now on to the plot...
Synopsys: "When Evelyn Bennett’s father dies he urges her to find out more about a lovely ghost who has visited her since childhood. Her questions lead her to learn about her family and the gift that she shares with her great grandmother. Evelyn must use what she learns from her family’s history to rid them of an evil nuisance that has haunted them for generations back, and ensure that she has a future. "
There is a battle of good vs. evil (LitFic?) Two or more charachters that can see ghosts (supernatural) Alternating POVs between charachters (LitFic?) Timelines aren't always linear (LitFic?) Part of the story is set in historically accurate 1920 (historical fiction)
Sooooo LitFic or Mainstream or Supernatural? And how much does it actually matter?
I read mostly literary fiction but I'm drawn to elements of SF, F and magic realism. I'm wondering whether its the subject or the way your work reads, line-by-line that makes something literature. Margaret Atwood writes literary SF, for example. Here's my premise:
An anthropology grad student finds love and breakthroughs, caving in southern France, but must defeat a prehistoric doppelganger who assumes her identity.
I do speed-writing experiments like Nano to try out new things, including new genres. This time I can't decide whether it's literary or horror, or (oh gawd, paranormal romance!) but for once I am writing a story in which two humans experience romantic longing. There has to be a first for everything.
Cerealboxreader wrote: An anthropology grad student finds love and breakthroughs, caving in southern France, but must defeat a prehistoric doppelganger who assumes her identity.
I -think- I'm writing something like LitFic - at the very least, a blend of LitFic and ChickLit, with some drama and romance dashed in.
My story is mostly character driven, with my FMC recounting her life in first person from her childhood to her adulthood. Kind of in the same vein as She's Come Undone, by Wally Lamb. I have no idea what that novel is considered either, but it gave me the jump-off idea to do some super character exploration.
I feel like I'm on the cusp between LitFic and ChickLit as well. My book is about two sisters who have been estranged, until one of them finds out she is dying. They go on a road trip together and along the way one of them falls in love with another passenger they've brought with them. While it has the romance aspect, it's as much about the relationship and the trip and the fact that one of them is facing their own mortality.
Miss Katelynne, I'm already interested in your story! How old are they? Who's the other passenger? Hurry up and write it, I want to read it! Lots of juicy meat for plot and character development!
My story is character driven, with few exceptions. It's about a young girl whose life has taken an unexpected turn, and she's about to spiral into depression when she meets a young boy who is much like her young self, so she decides to take him under her wings. The story is mostly about the FMC who fights with her demons from the past and present, and about the boy who is teacher her a lot about life.
Why can't it be literary YA? Let me tell you, that was always my favorite thing to read as a kid. I got really tired of everyone having super cool adventures all the time, and really settled into a niche of slice-of-life or coming-of-age fiction.
That frequently involved horses or dragons, true, but hey.
I feel like my NaNo plans mesh a lot of genres, but LitFic sounds like it might fit the most...?
It'll focus mostly on a handful of characters and their journey across country, though the setting is an alternate-present version of America (where, instead of refuting the 2012 theory, scientists confirmed it-- humanity was basically given one year to live, anarchy descended, etc). Character A is confronting her atheism, her perhaps wasted life until this point, and whether or not to lose her virginity before the world dies. Character B is reflecting on what could have been and trying to knock some things off hastily-put-together bucket list of sorts, while also trying to take care of a pregnant woman she picked up along the way. Character A will also be traveling with Character C, who probably has social anxiety and depression, but who in the face of certain death is discovering that he really, really doesn't want to die. They're all getting together to watch the world end and smoke a lot of pot.
I generally lean towards allegorical fantasy and magical realism in my short stories (this is my first year trying nanowrimo). I thought I'd push myself and try a hard realist novel, with a romantic main plot, but my planning is all allegorical and character based; it's become a re-telling of some of the myths of Diana, combining Acteon and the Rex Nemorensis. The feelings of the main characters are planned go through the stages of Alchemical transformation. And the plot notes are mostly "They argue for 5k words." I guess I'll see when it's written. I don't think I'd be able to sell it as romance, though.
Mine is LitFic with a historical setting. I guess literary historical fiction would cover it? it's less about history and mire about the characters that history can provide me with, if that makes sense?
I honestly have no idea. But I think LitFic fits. Why?
The lack of actual plot. The focus on the characters. The conflict being other people, society, and the majority of it being purely internal. The fact that my outline says more often than not, "And then she ponders about this for a bit," before going onto the next scene.
However, it also could be classified as YA. Somebody said once YA LitFic would be a hard one to do, but I don't think I quite agree. At least, maybe it's hard but it is do-able, right? Once in a while, I'll think ,"Well maybe I'm mainstream fiction after all."
... it takes about two seconds to really throw that idea into the trash can. It just doesn't contain typical stuff. Maybe the set-up seems that way, but the actual story doesn't (looking at my wonderful shiny outline). Maybe I'm in my own genre of "other".
"If you can't write it for adults, or if it will be too hard, write it for children."
(Or something like that.)
Honestly, most of my litfic endeavors lately have landed squarely in YA. Given, it's not a nice YA... definitely not the current fad of soft-core romance. But still.
Hey, love it. Kind of similar to my this-year-novel, which is (intro. excerpt) "about how each one, being an actor in its own life, does everything we call barbarities and atrocities in others, but when we do them is because we have to, even knowing that they're the same thing. It's about what happens if, instead of just acting on stage, once in a while we sat in the audience and we saw how we live, and how we see the difference in ourselves because the limelight is falling on us rather than on the rest, until someone tells us that there is no limelighte. That's when we don't understand anything, and when all we've done to get what we want goes straight to hell." What do you think?
Okay, I'll be the first to ask...what *IS* LitFic??? I've been a permanent dweller of "fantasy" for the past 4 years, and am now delving into something new. When told to pick my genre, I scrolled down to find "fiction" and discovered that fiction is divided into more than just "realistic fiction" and "fantasy".
What are the differences between all these new genres??? LitFic? Mainstream?
I'm in the same boat; all I ever write is fantasy, and this year I'm trying specifically to not write fantasy in some attempt to broaden my horizons, but now I have absolutely no clue what genre I'm in.
Wikipedia states as such: "The term is principally used to distinguish "serious fiction" which is a work that claims to hold literary merit, in comparison from genre fiction and popular fiction (i.e., paraliterature). In broad terms, literary fiction focuses more upon style, psychological depth, and character. This is in contrast to Mainstream commercial fiction, which focuses more on narrative and plot."
Me three! I think what I'm writing is still considered sci-fi but it only takes place 20 years in the future and all the science fiction elements are things that are really starting to happen already (wired homes etc). I want the focus to be less on the shiny gadgets and more on where we'll be as a people in 20 years, is it still sci-fi? Or is it some weird lit fic sci-fi hybrid? I'd love to know.
And what, may I ask, is wrong with "genre" fiction? Sorry, but that's a particular sore spot for me as someone who freely reads and writes on both sides of the realistic/speculative divide. (For instance, I see writers who have earned their reputations writing realistic fiction release a speculative novel and all the critics are gushing over how "original" and "experimental" it is, when many "genre" writers have already covered most of the same territory, often with the same level of craft and power...) I think it's more a perception thing than any real meaning of "genre"; I'd argue that YA/middle grade, science fiction/fantasy, mystery/adventure/thriller, etc. all deserve a place at the "literary" table if they're good enough.
That said, I'm writing what appears to be, on the surface, a steampunk-ish alternate history, but beneath that surface it's a political novel, a pointed critique of social inequality and the dogmatic belief in the hierarchical division of humanity, a rumination on the transformative power of technology, and a set of character studies--and it's structurally experimental and a bit metafictional, as well. I'm trying to challenge the dismissive assumptions people tend to have about "genre" fiction by making my own writing as "literary" as possible. And if I can help lift a few of my fellow authors out of the genre ghetto while I'm at it, so much the better. (Of course, I'm also enough of a realist about the publishing industry to know that I have a snowball's chance in hell of pulling it off, but you never know...)
Um, I'm wondering if I might belong here. I'm not sure I'd fit into Romance because altho things settle down to being relatively happy at the end, it's still complicated and it's definitely not a classic happy ending. Copying and pasting the clumsy summary I managed to come up with for my profile:
"What happens when soulmates meet too late?
A young woman returns to her family in liberated Paris, proud of having done the right thing by her country, but she soon discovers the price she has paid.
Her brother-in-law, who she only saw once previously in an exhausted stupor at his wedding to her sister, turns out to be the only man she wants, and their love proves to be too strong to resist.
In the end, the family discovers that it is possible to adapt when life is not a fairytale, and that there is more than one kind of love."
Hmm. The thing about LitFic is that it is all in the writing style. Will you be focusing more on stylistic choices or on plot, movement, etc?
The way your summary is written sounds similar to a movie trailer. Books that are easily adapted into movies sell well, but they are more likely to fall under "mainstream" or "chick lit" category. The idea of a soul mate is not exactly common in LitFic. Literary fiction is less dramatic in that way; it has less action, more subtle conflict, and more focus on characters and relationships.
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As my fellows up there, I have no idea what genre I am in but I -think- it's litfic. Or fantasy. Or religious. I don't know.
My story in a couple of words: Remastered native american tales in the point of view of the spirit of madness.
I'd go in fantasy just with this but the thing is, I don't have a protagonist (or I have many, as my MC just walk around and watch others' stories unfold), I don't have an antagonist (appart from things like madness, fears or the whole world, if you look close enough) and I don't have a plot. Well, the very base of a bunch of tales but actions are more of a subplot. The closest I have from a plot is ''madness watches things happen and has mental struggles about them''.
So; I'd say fantasy because there's fantasy-ish spirits. I'd say religious because it's on Native american tales/religion. And I'd say literary for everything else.
Is there a kind soul somewhere who could help a newbie? Please? And thanks in advance!
I'm pretty much in the same boat as everyone else here. I'm not sure where mine should go. I feel it's too complex to call a romance because it doesn't really focus on the relationship itself.
It's about two people who are connected at birth via an invisible thread. Lucas and Jade. This thread allows them to talk to each other and through it they help each other with their problems. Lucas is the male foster kid who, being the typical teenager, feels like the world hates him. Jade's family used to live in a small down and had a humble sum of money, but through business her father has gotten rich. He's always busy and never seems to have any time for Jade. Eventually the link they have goes public and they are thrown into a world of fame. A world they don't want to be in. They do fall in love but the focus is more on their family problems rather than them falling in love.
I like that plot. In Chinese history, there is a story(myth) about an invisible red thread that connects two people at birth. Wherever they go,they are always connected. My husband who is Japanese told me that story when we were dating 16 years ago. I have often thought of that concept myself. The literary implications are immense.
Like many of you, I struggle with how to define literary fiction. It is quite the slippery little beast; however, I tend to think of it as modernism and post-modernism, because of my specific background and training. This of course does not account for the vast array of things that fit into literary fiction, but I think they tend to do some very specific things that are generally recognized as literary. I do not think, like anything written, there is a general definition for what is literature and what is not.
I want to recommend a fantastic text by Terry Eagleton called "Literary Theory: An Introduction," where the introductory essay grapples with this question of what is literature (and as such, what is literary). I believe you can find a large portion of the text on Google Books.
I am of the mind that if you think what you are writing is literary fiction then it just might be.
I believe I'm squarely in LitFic. My story is a woman's recounting of how she remembers her mother and her childhood. There's no plot, everything just jumps about and goes where it wants.
Sounds like we are writing in the same sort of light. My story is going to be about two old men recounting their memories of serving in WWII. Glad to know some people share the idea :)
I think I am LitFic...as I am unsure where else I would put my upcoming 50K.
I'm going to write about someone who goes back to where he grew up, to find out what happened to a "friend" he once knew. Character driven for sure. Then again, this is the 1st time I have ever tried writing anything really. 1st time Wrimo person here...likely I am over my head...but then again, my mantra in life has always been, "why let common sense get in your way of things."
Pigeonholing into a genre is so hard! My story, as you'll see if you go to my NaNo profile, takes place on a world very unlike our own, although the civilization is modeled after ancient Egypt. There's no magic, but it's a story about religion and various gods that are not our own. The reason I ultimately decided upon 'literary fiction" has to do with themes: my story is pretty heavy, meditating on the various forms of slavery, on the ways we handle world-shattering discoveries, and on desire. So it's definitely not mainstream. But without magic, I feel strange calling it fantasy. So I basically slip it into literary fiction since it doesn't really fit anywhere else.
Yea that's kind of like my situation, except with sci-fi rather than fantasy. There aren't aliens or anything that isn't a few years away from being reality, so is it still sci-fi? :\
I first classified my novel as a suspense/thriller, but now I've reclassified it as a LitFic. It's both, really. I'm not sure how orthodox it is to combine LitFic with action and suspense; but hey, when was LitFic ever orthodox?
It does have a lot of excitement going on, and probably a bit more of a plot than most LitFic has. But the focus is still on the characters, their psychological development and growth, and their reaction to the events more than the events themselves.
I think I fit comfortably into LitFic, but I'm knee-deep in mainstream too. I think of LitFic as something like 'Catcher in the Rye' - something that wouldn't fit comfortably into YA? Please be the judge. :)
'The Society of Broken Nails.' (Third Person) A 13-year-old boy is told that he will be attending summer school for the first time. I'm intending to portray the boy as a sexless boy that is thrown into the summer school by his parents that fear he is homosexual. I hope to undertake a study of gender-based stereotypes through a boy that is watched, studied and dissected by the camp's staff. Once he comprehends why he is at the camp, the boy will join the society of broken nails with other boys, which will come to question their sexuality, sexuality within science, and then the worth of such studies within existence itself.
I see literary fiction as anything set in a realistic perspective of a modern/post modern setting that focuses on the ideological development of it's time. I'm writing about a child that could be homosexual that discovers for himself what it is to be homosexual, which leads him to analyze society and existence. LitFic SEEMS to fit, but I'm also on the cusp of mainstream.
I'm writing about a society where the green space is very limited and the way the main character has adapted to it. There's a tiny bit of a plot/reversal where he's forced to go against the rules that society has established to accomplish a certain task. Major themes are creation & destruction, death & rebirth.
I think the novel that I am mulling over at the moment (the same one that I will be attempting for NaNoWriMo) may be LitFic...possibly?
It's about a homosexual man in his early twenties. It's based in the eighties, and it's about his struggle to come to terms with his sexuality, and the journey of emotions that he embarks on when he meets his potential first love.
@DanWells, it sounds as though we are working with similar themes, it will be interesting to see what we come up with :)
I haven't decided which time frame to set the story in (picture frame psych visits, revisiting life from the 80's or present day child hood) but the 80's was a strong possibility! I'd love to keep up with the development of your plot and share progress :)
So far my plan for the book seems to be a fictionalized memoir of my life based on the hardships of growing up possibly mixed in with some historical fiction also based on my heritage to add a little breather to the books harsher scenes.
I'm not sure if what I'm planning on writing is Mainstream of LitFic. But that's what this thread is for, isn't it? :D
I plan to write about a group of four college theater students on a Neil Gaimain-themed road trip who get in a crash and end up stranded in the tiny town of Lebanon, Kansas, where the MC's estranged father lives. I want to explore concepts of fate and destiny a bit, but what I really want to focus on is exploring the relationships between the characters and how they change and grow. Most obvious is the relationship between the MC and his father, but I'm not planning on that one relationship overshadowing what's going on with the rest of the cast. I'm not even sure if the MC is really the MC. More than anything, it's about the characters, and that's what has me thinking LitFic, but who knows.
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So are you wanting to know if you're writing LitFic and looking around for a corner of the room to hunker down in, but are nervous if you're really home? Ask here!
This is a judgment free thread to ask folks who are writing LitFic if they think you're writing LitFic. Responders are encouraged to be nice, and if something doesn't quite sound LitFicish, point them in the right direction.
Also use this thread to discuss what exactly LitFic Is, to you.
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I'm pretty sure I'm about smack halfway between LitFic and Mainstream.
My story, The Astrologist, is definitely plot driven- it's about two women who work in a casino and their struggles to find their place in a male-dominated work environment, without sacrificing themselves in the process. But I'm going to use a funky narrative style- one woman is a clairvoyant, and can read everyone's thoughts. And I'll be addressing a lot of feminist issues. I guess what will ultimately decide it is the writing style, which I won't discover until I start writing. But any help would be appreciated! If you have any questions, please ask.
I may end up hanging around this forum either way- after all, the help I'm going to need will most likely be related to "higher" issues like characterization and themes- I've already got the plot mapped out. Also, this forum tends to be much busier!
Thanks, everyone!
-Alejandra
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Just an FYI, "astrologist" is a term that is not used. The correct term is "astrologer." I've never heard it any other way (and I am one!).
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An astrologist must be someone who believes in astrologism, right?
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I think it may sound like a mix of LitFic and Chick Fic, with some New Age influence. Sounds enticing!
Happy writing!
Victoria
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I really can't say for sure if I'm writing LitFic but it just doesn't feel mainstream enough for, well, mainstream.
The main draw for my story, In/Out, is not necessarily in the style of writing but in the presentation. It begins with a car crash that sends the main character, Chris, hurtling into a pole. The rest of the story covers the next 5-8 minutes between the accident and Chris' eventual death. It's written as a first-person reflection on everything that got him into the car and everything he's going to lose when the final breath actually comes.
This is represented by each page's heading, which is either "In" or "Out" (with a few exceptions). Essentially, each page is a breath, and it gives me an opportunity to do some interesting things with his consciousness and the irregularity of his breath.
Chris definitely isn't a remarkable man and his story isn't exciting or punchy. There is definitely a plot "structure" but I would argue it's not the centrepoint of the story. It's not about how amazing Chris' life is or how unusual the events that occur are. It's about how the brain works in those final moments of anyone's life and how under those circumstances even the most inconsequential thing can be significant.
Any thoughts on where my story belongs would be appreciated! :)
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I have no idea where it belongs but I love the idea!
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I agree! And as both a new nurse and a fiction reader,i can definitely say, "If this book hits the stands, I want to read it."
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Agreed. I'm completely knew to writing novels but that idea is a brilliant one.
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I adore this concept. Your summary takes my breath away. When you're published, drop me a note!
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Thanks to both of you for your positive feedback! I'm definitely looking forward to writing it!
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I also love the sound of your novel MrJiff, and would really like to read it! So please get writing! :D
I think it is Lit Fic because of the issues you're engaging with, and focussing on one character's mental process, it's very thoughtful.
I also have a car accident in my novel, but my MC survives, and it functions to change his perspective on life and his purpose in the world. Happy writing!
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I would really love to read this when you are done with it. I almost died in a car accident a month ago...and I can certainly assure you that the mind goes in a completely different place during something like that. So I am really interested in reading this. :) And I think it does belong in literary fiction.
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Wow... your idea sounds absolutely amazing. If I'd read a summary like this on Amazon.com I'd buy it in a heartbeat. I'd love to read it when you're done!
It sounds lit fit because it's character-driven.
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This is a very creative approach. I love it!
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That's really cool. I wrote a short story once that was sort of like that (but your idea is better). Mine was called tick-tock and it revolved around a spy that was about to be assassinated. There was a clock in the room and the tick and the tock of the clock drove the story. The entire story takes place in like 30 seconds while the person considers the ending of his life and the life that he had lived that got him to that point. I never really developed it all that well and it ended up being a shorter story than it should have been. I guess I never really finished it.
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I would also love to read that. My novel also has an interesting exploration of breathing when it comes to reflection of life but it does not nearly last as long as yours and is nowhere near as creative. I love this idea though.
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This sounds like an awesome idea. I'm curious as to how this turns out!
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THE AWARDS
Readers of literary fiction are very often interested in the major literary awards. These would include The Booker Prize for Fiction, The National Book Awards, The National Book Critics Circle Awards, The Nobel Prize for Literature, The Pen/Faulkner Award for Fiction and The Pulitzer Prize. There are many excellent, comprehensive websites to refer to when looking for information on the recipients of these awards. Among the best are, The National Book Foundation, BookWeb.org, Booklist Center, and ALA Notable Books.
from:http://www.conknet.com/~fullerlibrary/ReadersAdvisory/A%20GUIDE%20TO%20LITERARY%20FICTION.htm
Here's WIKI's take:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literary_fiction
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Omg, I think I found my genre!
My novel is based on true events about one family's repeating cycle of abuse. I'm not sure who the main character is yet. At the moment, the story is largely episodic and spans at least two generations.
It begins in 1950's Southern Italy. The daughter of a wealthy landowner disgraces herself by becoming pregnant. Knowing he can not arrange a properly politically advantageous marriage for her, her father arranges for her to marry one of his share croppers. The sharecropper takes his new bride back to the village of his birth.
I will be addressing feminist issues, issues of abuse, alcoholism, and mental illness.
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I'm not sure what my genre is. I'm a bit of a procrastinator so I don't have a definitive plan of where my story is going to go, but the general idea is that a young woman named Armistead is trying to find a purpose in her life after quitting her job as an English teacher, and she ends up taking care of her dead sister's seven year old son named Matthew and and old student named Giac who is an war veteran who has lost his leg. Armistead has no purpose because she has no friends, no job, and nothing to fall back on. Matthew has no family except for Armistead, and Giac is disabled and suffers from the mental after effects of the war.
So the whole story is about purpose and having a niche in life. But then again, it's not. Armistead begins to find her purpose because Giac begins to tell Matthew these fantastical tales, and Armistead begins to write them down. The three become so invested in the tales because it's all they have to cling to. In these parts, the story sort of becomes a fantasy. So it could actually go under the fantasy genre. I'm not sure. Any ideas as to what I should aim more towards? Lit Fiction or Fantasy?
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I am writing a fiction novel that correlates directly with my life experiences - let downs, depression, generalized anxiety disorder, and borderline personality disorder. I need to get it out on paper, and I thought this could be a good outlet for me, but I'm not sure if it would be classified as Literary Fiction.
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Hi sbingram12, I would say yes your novel is almost certainly Literary Fiction. Some mainstream fiction deals with these issues but it sounds to me the way you're writing it is going to be more introspective and artistic than predominantly concerned with commercial appeal.
My qualification for suggesting it is Lit Fic is that I have 2 degrees in studying literature, and specialise in modern lit :) I hope this helps. Writing is a great therapy
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My God. I never think about genre when I read a book. Perhaps because I like to read a lot of genres. This is proving to be one of the most difficult things about nanowrimo so far for me. Help is appreciated, because if I ever look for an editor or agent I'll apparently have to know this. Now on to the plot...
Synopsys: "When Evelyn Bennett’s father dies he urges her to find out more about a lovely ghost who has visited her since childhood. Her questions lead her to learn about her family and the gift that she shares with her great grandmother. Evelyn must use what she learns from her family’s history to rid them of an evil nuisance that has haunted them for generations back, and ensure that she has a future. "
There is a battle of good vs. evil (LitFic?)
Two or more charachters that can see ghosts (supernatural)
Alternating POVs between charachters (LitFic?)
Timelines aren't always linear (LitFic?)
Part of the story is set in historically accurate 1920 (historical fiction)
Sooooo LitFic or Mainstream or Supernatural? And how much does it actually matter?
-Amy
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I read mostly literary fiction but I'm drawn to elements of SF, F and magic realism. I'm wondering whether its the subject or the way your work reads, line-by-line that makes something literature. Margaret Atwood writes literary SF, for example. Here's my premise:
An anthropology grad student finds love and breakthroughs, caving in southern France, but must defeat a prehistoric doppelganger who assumes her identity.
I do speed-writing experiments like Nano to try out new things, including new genres. This time I can't decide whether it's literary or horror, or (oh gawd, paranormal romance!) but for once I am writing a story in which two humans experience romantic longing. There has to be a first for everything.
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Wow, sounds like an interesting setting...
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I -think- I'm writing something like LitFic - at the very least, a blend of LitFic and ChickLit, with some drama and romance dashed in.
My story is mostly character driven, with my FMC recounting her life in first person from her childhood to her adulthood. Kind of in the same vein as She's Come Undone, by Wally Lamb. I have no idea what that novel is considered either, but it gave me the jump-off idea to do some super character exploration.
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I feel like I'm on the cusp between LitFic and ChickLit as well. My book is about two sisters who have been estranged, until one of them finds out she is dying. They go on a road trip together and along the way one of them falls in love with another passenger they've brought with them. While it has the romance aspect, it's as much about the relationship and the trip and the fact that one of them is facing their own mortality.
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Miss Katelynne, I'm already interested in your story! How old are they? Who's the other passenger? Hurry up and write it, I want to read it! Lots of juicy meat for plot and character development!
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I really liked that book She's Come Undone
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I might be writing LitFic, but I am unsure.
My story is character driven, with few exceptions. It's about a young girl whose life has taken an unexpected turn, and she's about to spiral into depression when she meets a young boy who is much like her young self, so she decides to take him under her wings. The story is mostly about the FMC who fights with her demons from the past and present, and about the boy who is teacher her a lot about life.
It's either LitFic or YA, I think?
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Why can't it be literary YA? Let me tell you, that was always my favorite thing to read as a kid. I got really tired of everyone having super cool adventures all the time, and really settled into a niche of slice-of-life or coming-of-age fiction.
That frequently involved horses or dragons, true, but hey.
It's still my favorite to read. :)
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I feel like my NaNo plans mesh a lot of genres, but LitFic sounds like it might fit the most...?
It'll focus mostly on a handful of characters and their journey across country, though the setting is an alternate-present version of America (where, instead of refuting the 2012 theory, scientists confirmed it-- humanity was basically given one year to live, anarchy descended, etc). Character A is confronting her atheism, her perhaps wasted life until this point, and whether or not to lose her virginity before the world dies. Character B is reflecting on what could have been and trying to knock some things off hastily-put-together bucket list of sorts, while also trying to take care of a pregnant woman she picked up along the way. Character A will also be traveling with Character C, who probably has social anxiety and depression, but who in the face of certain death is discovering that he really, really doesn't want to die. They're all getting together to watch the world end and smoke a lot of pot.
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This sounds awesome!! Haven't we all wondered what we would do in that situation? I know I have. Happy NaNo'ing!
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I generally lean towards allegorical fantasy and magical realism in my short stories (this is my first year trying nanowrimo). I thought I'd push myself and try a hard realist novel, with a romantic main plot, but my planning is all allegorical and character based; it's become a re-telling of some of the myths of Diana, combining Acteon and the Rex Nemorensis. The feelings of the main characters are planned go through the stages of Alchemical transformation. And the plot notes are mostly "They argue for 5k words."
I guess I'll see when it's written. I don't think I'd be able to sell it as romance, though.
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Mine is LitFic with a historical setting. I guess literary historical fiction would cover it? it's less about history and mire about the characters that history can provide me with, if that makes sense?
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I honestly have no idea. But I think LitFic fits. Why?
The lack of actual plot. The focus on the characters. The conflict being other people, society, and the majority of it being purely internal. The fact that my outline says more often than not, "And then she ponders about this for a bit," before going onto the next scene.
However, it also could be classified as YA. Somebody said once YA LitFic would be a hard one to do, but I don't think I quite agree. At least, maybe it's hard but it is do-able, right? Once in a while, I'll think ,"Well maybe I'm mainstream fiction after all."
... it takes about two seconds to really throw that idea into the trash can. It just doesn't contain typical stuff. Maybe the set-up seems that way, but the actual story doesn't (looking at my wonderful shiny outline). Maybe I'm in my own genre of "other".
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Why can't YA be litfic?
"If you can't write it for adults, or if it will be too hard, write it for children."
(Or something like that.)
Honestly, most of my litfic endeavors lately have landed squarely in YA. Given, it's not a nice YA... definitely not the current fad of soft-core romance. But still.
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Hey, love it. Kind of similar to my this-year-novel, which is (intro. excerpt) "about how each one, being an actor in its own life, does everything we call barbarities and atrocities in others, but when we do them is because we have to, even knowing that they're the same thing. It's about what happens if, instead of just acting on stage, once in a while we sat in the audience and we saw how we live, and how we see the difference in ourselves because the limelight is falling on us rather than on the rest, until someone tells us that there is no limelighte. That's when we don't understand anything, and when all we've done to get what we want goes straight to hell."
What do you think?
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I really like your idea, fm92.9 !
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Okay, I'll be the first to ask...what *IS* LitFic??? I've been a permanent dweller of "fantasy" for the past 4 years, and am now delving into something new. When told to pick my genre, I scrolled down to find "fiction" and discovered that fiction is divided into more than just "realistic fiction" and "fantasy".
What are the differences between all these new genres??? LitFic? Mainstream?
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I'm in the same boat; all I ever write is fantasy, and this year I'm trying specifically to not write fantasy in some attempt to broaden my horizons, but now I have absolutely no clue what genre I'm in.
Wikipedia states as such: "The term is principally used to distinguish "serious fiction" which is a work that claims to hold literary merit, in comparison from genre fiction and popular fiction (i.e., paraliterature). In broad terms, literary fiction focuses more upon style, psychological depth, and character. This is in contrast to Mainstream commercial fiction, which focuses more on narrative and plot."
Maybe that will help a little.
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Yes, it does! Thank you! I DEFINITELY fit here!
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Me three! I think what I'm writing is still considered sci-fi but it only takes place 20 years in the future and all the science fiction elements are things that are really starting to happen already (wired homes etc). I want the focus to be less on the shiny gadgets and more on where we'll be as a people in 20 years, is it still sci-fi? Or is it some weird lit fic sci-fi hybrid? I'd love to know.
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And what, may I ask, is wrong with "genre" fiction? Sorry, but that's a particular sore spot for me as someone who freely reads and writes on both sides of the realistic/speculative divide. (For instance, I see writers who have earned their reputations writing realistic fiction release a speculative novel and all the critics are gushing over how "original" and "experimental" it is, when many "genre" writers have already covered most of the same territory, often with the same level of craft and power...) I think it's more a perception thing than any real meaning of "genre"; I'd argue that YA/middle grade, science fiction/fantasy, mystery/adventure/thriller, etc. all deserve a place at the "literary" table if they're good enough.
That said, I'm writing what appears to be, on the surface, a steampunk-ish alternate history, but beneath that surface it's a political novel, a pointed critique of social inequality and the dogmatic belief in the hierarchical division of humanity, a rumination on the transformative power of technology, and a set of character studies--and it's structurally experimental and a bit metafictional, as well. I'm trying to challenge the dismissive assumptions people tend to have about "genre" fiction by making my own writing as "literary" as possible. And if I can help lift a few of my fellow authors out of the genre ghetto while I'm at it, so much the better. (Of course, I'm also enough of a realist about the publishing industry to know that I have a snowball's chance in hell of pulling it off, but you never know...)
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Um, I'm wondering if I might belong here. I'm not sure I'd fit into Romance because altho things settle down to being relatively happy at the end, it's still complicated and it's definitely not a classic happy ending. Copying and pasting the clumsy summary I managed to come up with for my profile:
"What happens when soulmates meet too late?
A young woman returns to her family in liberated Paris, proud of having done the right thing by her country, but she soon discovers the price she has paid.
Her brother-in-law, who she only saw once previously in an exhausted stupor at his wedding to her sister, turns out to be the only man she wants, and their love proves to be too strong to resist.
In the end, the family discovers that it is possible to adapt when life is not a fairytale, and that there is more than one kind of love."
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Hmm. The thing about LitFic is that it is all in the writing style. Will you be focusing more on stylistic choices or on plot, movement, etc?
The way your summary is written sounds similar to a movie trailer. Books that are easily adapted into movies sell well, but they are more likely to fall under "mainstream" or "chick lit" category. The idea of a soul mate is not exactly common in LitFic. Literary fiction is less dramatic in that way; it has less action, more subtle conflict, and more focus on characters and relationships.
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As my fellows up there, I have no idea what genre I am in but I -think- it's litfic. Or fantasy. Or religious. I don't know.
My story in a couple of words: Remastered native american tales in the point of view of the spirit of madness.
I'd go in fantasy just with this but the thing is, I don't have a protagonist (or I have many, as my MC just walk around and watch others' stories unfold), I don't have an antagonist (appart from things like madness, fears or the whole world, if you look close enough) and I don't have a plot. Well, the very base of a bunch of tales but actions are more of a subplot. The closest I have from a plot is ''madness watches things happen and has mental struggles about them''.
So; I'd say fantasy because there's fantasy-ish spirits. I'd say religious because it's on Native american tales/religion. And I'd say literary for everything else.
Is there a kind soul somewhere who could help a newbie? Please? And thanks in advance!
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This story synopsis makes me think of "the screwtape letters" with a twist. :)
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I'm pretty much in the same boat as everyone else here. I'm not sure where mine should go. I feel it's too complex to call a romance because it doesn't really focus on the relationship itself.
It's about two people who are connected at birth via an invisible thread. Lucas and Jade. This thread allows them to talk to each other and through it they help each other with their problems. Lucas is the male foster kid who, being the typical teenager, feels like the world hates him. Jade's family used to live in a small down and had a humble sum of money, but through business her father has gotten rich. He's always busy and never seems to have any time for Jade. Eventually the link they have goes public and they are thrown into a world of fame. A world they don't want to be in. They do fall in love but the focus is more on their family problems rather than them falling in love.
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I like that plot. In Chinese history, there is a story(myth) about an invisible red thread that connects two people at birth. Wherever they go,they are always connected. My husband who is Japanese told me that story when we were dating 16 years ago. I have often thought of that concept myself. The literary implications are immense.
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Wow that's interesting, I wrote a short story several years ago and 2 of the main characters were named Lucas and Jade. Love the names! :D
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Like many of you, I struggle with how to define literary fiction. It is quite the slippery little beast; however, I tend to think of it as modernism and post-modernism, because of my specific background and training. This of course does not account for the vast array of things that fit into literary fiction, but I think they tend to do some very specific things that are generally recognized as literary. I do not think, like anything written, there is a general definition for what is literature and what is not.
I want to recommend a fantastic text by Terry Eagleton called "Literary Theory: An Introduction," where the introductory essay grapples with this question of what is literature (and as such, what is literary). I believe you can find a large portion of the text on Google Books.
I am of the mind that if you think what you are writing is literary fiction then it just might be.
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I believe I'm squarely in LitFic. My story is a woman's recounting of how she remembers her mother and her childhood. There's no plot, everything just jumps about and goes where it wants.
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Sounds like we are writing in the same sort of light. My story is going to be about two old men recounting their memories of serving in WWII. Glad to know some people share the idea :)
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I think I am LitFic...as I am unsure where else I would put my upcoming 50K.
I'm going to write about someone who goes back to where he grew up, to find out what happened to a "friend" he once knew. Character driven for sure. Then again, this is the 1st time I have ever tried writing anything really. 1st time Wrimo person here...likely I am over my head...but then again, my mantra in life has always been, "why let common sense get in your way of things."
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Pigeonholing into a genre is so hard! My story, as you'll see if you go to my NaNo profile, takes place on a world very unlike our own, although the civilization is modeled after ancient Egypt. There's no magic, but it's a story about religion and various gods that are not our own. The reason I ultimately decided upon 'literary fiction" has to do with themes: my story is pretty heavy, meditating on the various forms of slavery, on the ways we handle world-shattering discoveries, and on desire. So it's definitely not mainstream. But without magic, I feel strange calling it fantasy. So I basically slip it into literary fiction since it doesn't really fit anywhere else.
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Yea that's kind of like my situation, except with sci-fi rather than fantasy. There aren't aliens or anything that isn't a few years away from being reality, so is it still sci-fi? :\
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Same boat as you! I'm leaning towards lit fic.
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I first classified my novel as a suspense/thriller, but now I've reclassified it as a LitFic. It's both, really. I'm not sure how orthodox it is to combine LitFic with action and suspense; but hey, when was LitFic ever orthodox?
It does have a lot of excitement going on, and probably a bit more of a plot than most LitFic has. But the focus is still on the characters, their psychological development and growth, and their reaction to the events more than the events themselves.
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I think I fit comfortably into LitFic, but I'm knee-deep in mainstream too. I think of LitFic as something like 'Catcher in the Rye' - something that wouldn't fit comfortably into YA? Please be the judge. :)
'The Society of Broken Nails.' (Third Person)
A 13-year-old boy is told that he will be attending summer school for the first time. I'm intending to portray the boy as a sexless boy that is thrown into the summer school by his parents that fear he is homosexual. I hope to undertake a study of gender-based stereotypes through a boy that is watched, studied and dissected by the camp's staff. Once he comprehends why he is at the camp, the boy will join the society of broken nails with other boys, which will come to question their sexuality, sexuality within science, and then the worth of such studies within existence itself.
I see literary fiction as anything set in a realistic perspective of a modern/post modern setting that focuses on the ideological development of it's time. I'm writing about a child that could be homosexual that discovers for himself what it is to be homosexual, which leads him to analyze society and existence. LitFic SEEMS to fit, but I'm also on the cusp of mainstream.
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I'm writing about a society where the green space is very limited and the way the main character has adapted to it. There's a tiny bit of a plot/reversal where he's forced to go against the rules that society has established to accomplish a certain task. Major themes are creation & destruction, death & rebirth.
So is this LitFic? Or is it too mainstream?
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I think the novel that I am mulling over at the moment (the same one that I will be attempting for NaNoWriMo) may be LitFic...possibly?
It's about a homosexual man in his early twenties. It's based in the eighties, and it's about his struggle to come to terms with his sexuality, and the journey of emotions that he embarks on when he meets his potential first love.
@DanWells, it sounds as though we are working with similar themes, it will be interesting to see what we come up with :)
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I haven't decided which time frame to set the story in (picture frame psych visits, revisiting life from the 80's or present day child hood) but the 80's was a strong possibility! I'd love to keep up with the development of your plot and share progress :)
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Would this qualify as LitFic?
So far my plan for the book seems to be a fictionalized memoir of my life based on the hardships of growing up possibly mixed in with some historical fiction also based on my heritage to add a little breather to the books harsher scenes.
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I'm not sure if what I'm planning on writing is Mainstream of LitFic. But that's what this thread is for, isn't it? :D
I plan to write about a group of four college theater students on a Neil Gaimain-themed road trip who get in a crash and end up stranded in the tiny town of Lebanon, Kansas, where the MC's estranged father lives. I want to explore concepts of fate and destiny a bit, but what I really want to focus on is exploring the relationships between the characters and how they change and grow. Most obvious is the relationship between the MC and his father, but I'm not planning on that one relationship overshadowing what's going on with the rest of the cast. I'm not even sure if the MC is really the MC. More than anything, it's about the characters, and that's what has me thinking LitFic, but who knows.