Graphic Novel Rebels! http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451 Cuddles54227 There was a thread like this last year I think. Anyone else writing a graphic novel like me for their nano? Sun, 16 Oct 2011 04:57:24 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_80541 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_80541 thecandiedmango I'm writing the script for my graphic novel/webcomic thing in novel format, so I don't know if I'm really rebelling... but I'm kind of here with you! Sun, 16 Oct 2011 11:56:23 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_83911 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_83911 Cuddles54227 Yay! I'm doing the same. If I actually get it published though, I'm adding the drawings! :3 Sun, 16 Oct 2011 12:25:29 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_84248 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_84248 HannahK I started on a comic story during NaNo 2009 (I never do a script first though, I just start drawing and see where I'll end) Took me till October 2010 to finish it (141 pages) so during NaNo 2010 I started editing the drawings (I just draw directly in ink, so some drawing need to be straightened a bit and so does A LOT of the text) and inking them (that's fun but also harder than I thought!) This took waaaay more time than drawing did, but I still managed to do over 90 pages. I still have 50 left though, so I'll try and finish those this NaNo. Mon, 17 Oct 2011 14:25:53 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_99677 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_99677 Child_of_Ink Hooray, I was hoping some comic people would show up. I'm doing a comic too. I'm thinking 30 pages in 30 days. The whole shebang too: planning, drawing, scanning, layout. All of it. What do you guys think? Does 30 pages sound like a good goal? Tue, 18 Oct 2011 15:36:00 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_114975 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_114975 Cuddles54227 Awesome goal! I wish you luck! :D Tue, 18 Oct 2011 19:18:15 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_118116 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_118116 I am Tasha I'm doing a comic script! It's a steampunk dystopia gaslamp fantasy. [/jumble of words] Wed, 19 Oct 2011 12:50:37 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_128947 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_128947 Carlos I don't have the balls to attempt this - you are all my heroes. I'll be cheering you on from my beige boring novel cubicle. Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:40:53 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_131779 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_131779 Kazdragon I'm planning on doing a graphic novel for NaNo, I thought that since I'm an artist, it would be a great way to get started in the graphic novel world by just sitting down and doing it during NaNo. I still don't know what story I'm going to use! Fri, 21 Oct 2011 07:59:30 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_156162 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_156162 AtomicCafe Count me in! I've been doing NaNo for seven or eight years, and I've always finished within a week. I don't find the 50,000 words even remotely challenging, and I eventually got bored of going for 200k or any other amount. I absolutely love drawing, so my goal is going to be 50 pages (planning, sketching, and polishing) in 30 days. Fri, 21 Oct 2011 22:58:07 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_166699 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_166699 Azzie-chan Even though I have a graphic novel and a short story comic (and several more ideas I'd like to work on) I'm still writing a novel this year. The graphic novel, I really want to have the first volume finished by the end of December, so I'll prolly be doing some work on that in November... somehow... (I think I might need a time turner...) Anyway, good luck to all of you. I'll be cheering you on, and if anyone wants to be writing buddies/friends, I would love to have some fellow graphic novel writers as amigos~ Sat, 22 Oct 2011 09:12:52 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_170321 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_170321 Cuddles54227 YAY! Go Graphic Novel Rebels!!! :3 I cheer all of you on! Sat, 22 Oct 2011 17:37:07 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_176412 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_176412 Child_of_Ink 50 pages? That's very impressive. I'll be rooting for you. :D I hope you find this to be more of a challenge! Sun, 23 Oct 2011 19:05:49 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_191422 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_191422 chrisbean I'm doing a comic script too! It's a biopunk dystopian retrofuturist speculative fiction word-jumble. Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:04:53 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_200133 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_200133 Kabuki.Intrasolar I'll be doing 50 pages, too! My thought was that to equal 50k words, each page should be worth a 1,000 words. And about 2 pages per day same a reasonable amount. I'm so glad I found you guys! Mon, 24 Oct 2011 13:02:09 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_201937 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_201937 OpenBook *sneaks in* Er, I'm writing a graphic novel script. Was going to do it in prose, but my artist worries that it won't be visual enough that way (and she's probably right). Who knows, maybe it'll dither back and forth between script and prose! &lt; -- incredibly likely. Prose is my weakness. Don't know bout no pages or word counts, but I'm going to try to get as much of the story down as I can. :) Tue, 25 Oct 2011 17:24:14 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_223135 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_223135 Murielle *rises out of the lurk* I'm writing the script and bible for a (hopefully) ongoing webcomic. I don't have a set page count, but I have at least 3 pre-planned story arcs (maybe more) to play around in, so with any luck that will get to 50k. I am REALLY hoping for the 50k, but want those arcs completely scripted/thumbs as a minimum. Wed, 26 Oct 2011 15:17:11 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_236763 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_236763 OpenBook Best of luck to you! I hope the story arcs do get you above and beyond 50k, and/or you develop more ideas during the writing process to get you there. I was practice-writing some scenes... it's tricky to get pages to add up to a significant word count (for me, at least). But with 3 story arcs, you've got a good base, definitely, so good luck! Wed, 26 Oct 2011 19:38:52 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_240863 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_240863 Lydia_Ember I may end up drawing a few pages of my memoir, and eventually my fan-fic (that's based on some comic I made years ago, anyway). No script for me. I may end up with a mix of written pages and drawn pages with graduated stick figures in them (I'm using marble notebooks, so there's no room otherwise). Wed, 26 Oct 2011 21:34:42 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_242526 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_242526 Nelchee I only registered after I've read there's more rebels here doing GN scripts. I just want to write my darn script that I've been neglecting for years. And it doesn't matter if I don't finish it by Nov 30, but I'll really, really try to. Thu, 27 Oct 2011 10:11:11 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_248769 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_248769 Murielle Well, I know that there is no way I would get there on just dialogue, that is for sure. I am going to be embellishing my action descriptions and backgrounds like crazy to up the word count. Plot-UN-necessary explanations of politics, history or setting will be abounding. I will probably include vehicle specs and what not if I get desperate. Heh. Thank you and good luck to you as well! Thu, 27 Oct 2011 15:15:41 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_253463 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_253463 watercolour In previous years I've written about 100k of autobiography (using yWriter4.) This year I'm ink-drawing and plan to draw some jobs/people/places from memory, but I'll be applying writing techniques like timed 'sprints' etc, so I have no idea how many pages to aim at yet or quite what will come out. I'm hoping my subconscious will wake up and play. Drawing under time pressure will force me to keep the pen moving, and that's all I want to do. Sat, 29 Oct 2011 06:38:19 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_279645 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_279645 inkaylayoutrust I'm up in the air whether or not I want my young adult story to be a graphic novel or a traditional novel, and it's good to see other graphic novel folks right here. Initially I planned my story to be a comic, but I've been so tempted as NaNo draws close to scrap my plans to write the script and do basic storyboard, in favour of doing a more typical novel. I'm in a bit of a writing mood, and I feel like I'd probably get more readers with a traditional story. Hum. I'm still sort of bouncing around on the idea. I'm an artist but I haven't been drawing or very productive with my projects, which is another thing that makes me think I should do a comic. I've done some basic sketches of her bedroom and the characters, so I have something to WORK with to begin. Any thoughts on the subject? Sat, 29 Oct 2011 20:21:24 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_290038 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_290038 terrybartley So glad to find other comic writers here. My goal is to write the script for 5 22-page comics during November. Wow, typing that seems way more ambitious then I'd initially planned. Guess I'll see how it goes. . . . Sun, 30 Oct 2011 00:23:23 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_293037 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_293037 Dennis Jernberg Alas, I'm merely novelizing the manga idea I've been working on since 1992. However, I'm writing it as if it <em>were</em> a graphic novel (of telephone-book size, actually), all the better to adapt it back into what it should have been in the first place. It's because I like to play around with words the same way I do my layouts. My base style is a hybrid of Masamune Shirow, Hayao Miyazaki, CLAMP, and Neal Adams, but lately I've been changing the way I do layouts under the influence of <em>Raw</em> and Chris Ware, and my prose style has similarly mutated. But then, I'm really less a novelist or cartoonist than a multimedia artist... The easy way to cheat would be the Marvel-type script in which one paragraph represents a page of comics, possibly with dialogue added, then going back and fleshing it out (my full scripts can get pretty detailed) or just adding filler to pad the word count. Anyway, I always write the script before I do layouts, or at the same time. Just as I edit my novels until I get them right, I draw only when I feel the script and layouts are right. So I guess I wouldn't be rebelling anyway... Sun, 30 Oct 2011 05:03:30 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_295024 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_295024 TheMaddRaven Ooh! Mine's a dystopian post-apocalyptic biopunk semi-steampunk avian adventurist fantasy! :D Sun, 30 Oct 2011 10:35:25 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_299612 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_299612 canberra_boy_redux Yep, I did a graphic novel for NaNo last year (75 pages of artwork in November) and it got PUBLISHED, so I'll be doing the same again this year with its sequel (which is under contract). Anyone else planning to do artwork for NaNo? Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:33:08 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_305464 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_305464 silvercat17 Yup! I'm writing scripts for a superhero comic that's set on a fictional world. Sun, 30 Oct 2011 18:43:01 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_309755 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_309755 silvercat17 Wow! That's almost exactly what I'm doing. What kind of comic? Sun, 30 Oct 2011 18:44:48 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_309790 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_309790 terrybartley I'm doing a Fantasy-ish comic, starring a musician, a traveling band of mercenaries, a Kobold zealot and a crash landed robot, what're you working on? Sun, 30 Oct 2011 23:17:00 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_315315 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_315315 silvercat17 A fairly standard superhero thing. Mon, 31 Oct 2011 11:06:13 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_326592 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_326592 Poppy Hillstead Hello fellow NaNo Graphic Novel Rebels! I'll also be doing a graphic novel this year, actually this is my first year. I'll be publishing each page as I go along on my wordpress site http://manalivecomic.wordpress.com if anyones interested! This will hopefully be an ongoing webcomic type of thing and Im going to try and get as many pages done as I can this month. So glad theres some other graphic novelers! Just wondering where on the internet people will be publishing their work? Pop x Mon, 31 Oct 2011 12:12:37 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_328315 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_328315 Child_of_Ink I'd actually think you'd have more readers doing a comic than a novel. People have shorter attention spans these days. Mon, 31 Oct 2011 13:26:21 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_330180 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_330180 Child_of_Ink I will keep an eye on it. What's it about? I'm working on a webcomic too. Mine is just going up on my DeviantART for now, but if I get far enough and am sure that I'll actually stick with it, I'll get a real website for it. Mon, 31 Oct 2011 13:31:11 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_330287 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_330287 Child_of_Ink Wow, that's excellent! Congratulations! I'll be drawing mine this November. I already have the story ready, so there's no point to working on that. I'll be going straight to the paper! Mon, 31 Oct 2011 13:34:24 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_330366 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_330366 BreathesStory Yep, I'm writing some comic books in an attempt to get past the incubation stage of a bunch of stories. Although I've done the traditional NaNo (twice) and won (once), in the past year I've switched my focus to telling stories through comics. This last year has been mostly spent on recovering my drawing skills and therefore my poor stories have been languishing in the form of notes and supporting documents. I'm going for 100 pages per the Script Frenzy rules. I've no idea yet if any artwork will enter into my scripts. I could see it happening though, since I seem to think naturally create stories in this sort of free-flow amalgam of both words and pictures. Mon, 31 Oct 2011 14:42:24 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_332009 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_332009 Cuddles54227 Wow! :3 I'm happy with all of the responses to this post! :D I wish you all luck for your amazing efforts! :3 Mon, 31 Oct 2011 16:23:27 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_334785 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_334785 ursamajor I have a macabre urban fantasy movie script that I'll be reworking into a set of graphic novels. My goal is to modify the story arc to harmonize with the new media and iron out the page layouts by the end of the month. I'll also do some concept work on the leads and the environments so that I'm ready to draw the final sketches after November. I'll be doing a fair bit of illustrating, but I won't be pushing for any finished designs this month. Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:10:30 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_341414 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_341414 heyrabbit Wow, you are all so impressive to me! This is the first year I've ever tried writing a graphic novel for Nano (oh, and the first time I've ever actually written a graphic novel!). I've always been more of a novel-kid, but I think the story I have for this month fits much better in a graphic novel format. So, I'm going for it. I don't have a page count, but I have a pretty clear sense of where I want the story to go from beginning to end. For this month, I think I'm going to try to script the first two books? I really don't know. I guess I have to see how far I get. How do you all do your word count? So glad this forum post exists! I could use some graphic novel advice! Tue, 01 Nov 2011 11:45:29 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_358348 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_358348 ursamajor I was planing writing the script and designing the layout for 2 pages a day. That's 60 pages by the end of the month, enough for two books. A page count seems much more useful than a word count in this case Tue, 01 Nov 2011 15:13:49 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_365319 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_365319 Harmlessfangirl Woh! I'm thrilled to see other people attempting this! My focus isn't going to be my graphic novel (though I plan to do some illos for it during this month) but instead to do all of the illustrations for the children's books I'd written over the years and never illustrated. My goal is 50 illustrations. I've been involved in NaNo for years now and never gotten up to the word count goal... perhaps by adjusting my perspective to illustration I will make more progress. Tue, 01 Nov 2011 18:25:44 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_372125 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_372125 canberra_boy_redux I'm not quite in the same situation as you, as my script is written. Last year, I decided to equate 1 page of artwork to about 750 words. This year, I might be a little less ambitious, and let each page of artwork = 1000 words. That's 1.67 pages of finished art per day. Difficult but doable. :) Tue, 01 Nov 2011 20:03:22 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_375474 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_375474 flashlightghost My graphic novel's a short post-apocalyptic existentialist commentary on life as we know it. My goal is however many pages it takes! With all of the imagery I want to fit in, it'll probably end up at a page per day. I've never done anything remotely like this before. I hope it turns out alright. Tue, 01 Nov 2011 21:07:38 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_377774 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_377774 Nelchee That's really awesome, I'm glad you got it published :) I will probably be doing just script and some character sketches, no time to cover both words and art. Wed, 02 Nov 2011 02:30:33 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_383716 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=1#forum_thread_comment_383716 Nelchee Hm I didn't know 30 page equals "one book". I have no experience writing comics and I just wanted to make one long novel divided into chapters of variable length. Wed, 02 Nov 2011 02:33:10 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_383748 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_383748 canberra_boy_redux You can certainly do it that way. An average comic book (the short ones with the staples) are generally 22 pages + ads, roughly 30 pages in all. But a graphic novel can be anything you want, including varying chapter lengths. My published graphic novel has chapters that are between 29 and 45 pages long. If you are writing a comic for monthly publication, though, you will have more stringent page limits. Hope that helps! :) Wed, 02 Nov 2011 15:53:14 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_405065 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_405065 AmyFanRetaken Oh my gosh, graphic novels? :O Wow, that's really going far. All that writing, and penciling, and inking... I salute you guys. Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:04:51 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_405523 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_405523 HannahK [quote=Poppy Hillstead] Just wondering where on the internet people will be publishing their work? Pop x [/quote] I did the rough version (but in black on white ink already) of my comic story in 2009 and posted it on my blog: <a href="http://hannahsnano.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://hannahsnano.blogspot.com/</a> You have to go back to November 4th 2009 to read it from the beginning. I did 60+ pages in November that year, but took me almost a full year to complete it (at 141 pages) and I need(ed) both last years AND this NaNo to edit the drawings (and the text mostly) and ink them in full colour. Last year I also posted to examples of the edited and inked drawings (and in between I posted other comics I did.) Wed, 02 Nov 2011 17:37:13 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_409008 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_409008 swinsea Making comics is already my day job, but I think I'm going to work on the script for my next graphic novel. I'll try to have the entire thing scripted and some visual development done by the end of the 30 days for the pitching process to start. If anyone wants anyone to read their work so far or help, I'm totally game! I'd absolutely love to see what people are making, these projects sound so awesome! Wed, 02 Nov 2011 19:48:56 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_413752 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_413752 Nelchee Thanks for the advice :) Yeah, I don't have any intention to separate it into episodes so the length of the chapters will vary depending on the story, and I'll probably throw in a couple of pages of relevant visual poetry in between. Thu, 03 Nov 2011 03:48:11 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_423004 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_423004 Nelchee LOL of course not all that in the scope of a month ;) My project will probably take at lease 2-3 months to draw, ink and digitally color, but I'll spend the NaNo writing it, developing character designs and test styles, etc. Thu, 03 Nov 2011 03:51:59 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_423040 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_423040 Poppy Hillstead Same here! I'd love to see what people are doing. My quite rough graphic novel is going to be at http://manalivecomic.wordpress.com/ good luck everyone!!! x Thu, 03 Nov 2011 10:57:43 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_432197 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_432197 BreathesStory So how is everyone doing with their scripting goals? There seems to be a lot of us first timer's here and I was wondering: what pleasant and unpleasant discoveries you've made? I'm back on target!! with my self-imposed 100 page goal after having a melt-down, procrastination day yesterday in which I wrote absolutely nothing. (Yay, me! I was feeling so discouraged yesterday.) I've been pleasantly surprised to find out that I was right; this IS my ideal medium. For the first time since I began to seriously try to write stories three years ago, I feel like I'm really breathing. Also, I've been pleasantly surprised by my characters so far. I did no character sheets before hand, although I did have some basic (really basic) drawings, and they are just coming to life and taking on voices and actions and it's just so exciting! Noveling was <em>never</em> this much fun. :D I've been, well I don't know if it's really <em> unpleasant </em> or not, but I've definitely been surprised to discover how many comic pages it's going to take to tell this story. All my previous comics were sort of annotated thumbnail scripts (and shorter), but this one is turning out to just be all text. I'm sure when I actually panel it out and do the rewrite, it will tighten up a little, but still I'm really surprised. I can't even begin to guess at a final comic page count. Since I'm retelling a classic folktale, I copied the folktale and then broke it up into numbered "plot points" and then basically made a point to point correlation outline. I guess I should have known something was up when "The Bremen Town Musicians" broke up into 74 points. Obviously I'll have quite a bit of condensing to do. That's not such a bad problem to have though. Fri, 04 Nov 2011 22:04:39 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_483078 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_483078 silvercat17 I'm pretty sure things are going to get harder. I have 10 pages scripted for issue one, with some more to break into pages and panels, and seven pages for issue two. I'm pretty consistently doing six panels per page. I'm not sure how I feel about doing a basic grid. It makes it easier to plan, that's for sure, but is it boring? I'm probably over-thinking it. Hoping to finish issue one tomorrow. I'm mostly to the boring bits, but if I get issue one done, I get to write about ferrets robbing banks. With a little tiny scissor lift so they can reach and move things. Trying to decide if I'm going to start planning layouts. On the one hand, as I plan poses and such I can add to the script. On the other hand, I want to keep moving forward. I guess I'll decide how I feel. Fri, 04 Nov 2011 22:34:39 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_483671 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_483671 BreathesStory I wouldn't worry about making your paneling "interesting." FWIW, I think the most important thing is the story and you should do what ever best supports the story you want to tell. I've been working my way through <a href rel="nofollow">"Panel Discussions"</a> (Good book!) and thought that Mike Mignola's thoughts behind why he likes the grid and what they do for storytelling were great. He talked about how he tries to take away anything that takes the reader out of the story. That said... I have no idea if <em>I'm</em> using a grid. ~_^ Fri, 04 Nov 2011 23:11:16 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_484351 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_484351 tttriptych Seeing as I'm trying to be an illustrator, I don't even know why or how I did not think of this. Always next year! You guys are ballsy to be writing a 50k word graphic novel script. Good luck all! Also, if any of you are artists/illustrators, I'd love to see your work. Fri, 04 Nov 2011 23:30:38 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_484722 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_484722 silvercat17 I tend to overthink things, and, probably like most beginning comickers, worry too much about window-dressing. Sat, 05 Nov 2011 17:11:39 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_504770 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_504770 terrybartley I'm about half-way through my second book. I've noticed that as I got along, I'm not as concerened with things like layout and details and have also focused more on just telling the story. I'll probably go back later and have more specifics, but I really just want to finish that story for now. I'm shooting for about a book a week at this point. Won't have the time I had earlier in the month to quickly crank out another book. Best of luck to all you guys! Sat, 05 Nov 2011 19:48:38 -0700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_509290 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_509290 CB_Young I had been going to try to get the first 30(ish) pages of my graphic novel done. However, I realized about three pages into it that I don't have the word design or the script/story planned out nearly well enough to start drawing the actual pages yet (It's a political drama with quite a few plot twists, so planning is going to be pretty important). So instead I'm going to see if I can't get 50K words out of either writing it in script or novel format. Here goes! Sun, 06 Nov 2011 04:03:22 -0800 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_518170 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_518170 silvercat17 How's everybody doing? I have the page limit for issue one done, but it's still going. I'm inching closer to the climax. Two, maybe three more pages before that. What's amazing is that, even with doing it in script format, I'm only 2525 words short, and I haven't written anything today yet (about to go to lunch and see what I can get done in 20 minutes). Want to get to issue two and the ferrets robbing banks! Tue, 08 Nov 2011 12:37:29 -0800 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_580495 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_580495 canberra_boy_redux My graphic novels are strictly four equal 'widescreen' panels per page. And I got them published. Content is most important :) Tue, 08 Nov 2011 20:13:56 -0800 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_590411 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_590411 canberra_boy_redux It's great fun adapating a novel to a graphic novel. My published GN, The Lesser Evil, spent more than a decade as a novel before it made the jump. Good luck! Tue, 08 Nov 2011 20:15:38 -0800 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_590445 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_590445 watercolour I've been inspired by the work linked from this thread! I'm now steering my generalised ink-drawing towards telling stories in frames. I know practically nothing about graphic novels but have ordered a few books to help: "Expressive Anatomy for Comics and Narrative: Principles and Practices" Eisner, Will "Alan Moore's Writing For Comics Volume 1" "Making Comics: Storytelling Secrets of Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels" McCloud, Scott Anyone got other recommendations? (I can draw reasonably and once published a couple of cartoons but don't have any graphic-novel style. I'd be aiming for a humorous take on daily life, not superheros or noir.) Sat, 12 Nov 2011 00:04:13 -0800 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_654274 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_654274 watercolour Today, I found a section about James Kocholka (American Elf) inside Danny Gregory's 'An Illustrated Life' (collection of other people's artwork.) Some of the sections in Illustrated Life show beautiful, skilled, drawing-and-watercolour artwork, but these sections don't tell you anything about the people who live in this beautiful world. By comparison James Kochalka's section appears to be simple almost 'goofy' black-and-white doodle-style comic strips, but it's alive. These little four-frame stories capture daily life in nuggets. I loved them and they've made me realise how much more powerful than beautiful paintings this kind of art is, at least if you want to tell 'people stories', which I do. Sun, 13 Nov 2011 03:03:06 -0800 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_673538 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_673538 silvercat17 Agreed. ;) Like I said, I over-think these things. Wed, 16 Nov 2011 10:08:11 -0800 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_726398 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_726398 silvercat17 Finished issue two! It ended up with more gang stuff than I thought was going to happen, but it desperately needed more action so I tied something from the MC's backstory to the opening AND got a cameo from a character who isn't going to show up for a while out of it. On to issue three, which will hopefully have more ferret action. Wed, 16 Nov 2011 10:10:33 -0800 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_726430 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_726430 canberra_boy_redux Coming (very) soon! The Lesser Evil Volume One (2010 NaNo graphic novel) giveaway on GoodReads! <a href="http://www.goodreads.com/giveaway/show/17389-the-lesser-evil-book-1" rel="nofollow">http://www.goodreads.com/giveaway/show/17389-the-lesser-evil-book-1</a> 3 copies up for grabs (Australians only at this stage, sorry)! If you miss out (or live internationally), you can get the book for $8 from <a href="http://bit.ly/qBWAsG" rel="nofollow">Book Depository.</a> It has been very well received by the (small) number of people who have read it so far! Sun, 20 Nov 2011 19:59:19 -0800 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_787607 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_787607 Poppy Hillstead How's everyone doing? Pop Tue, 22 Nov 2011 15:56:45 -0800 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_809559 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_809559 Gazoinks I'm an enormous McCloud fan, and I highly recommend getting Understanding Comics, it's an excellent book. Despite being an Eisner fan I find his instructional books kinda hard to get through. Wed, 23 Nov 2011 11:19:54 -0800 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_820151 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_820151 Gazoinks Also, I believe Making Comics has a list of helpful books in the back, so look through that too. Wed, 23 Nov 2011 12:11:49 -0800 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_820807 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_820807 canberra_boy_redux I've gotten some artwork done, but nowhere near what I hoped. Still, given the ridiculous amount of other life-stuff that decided to come along this month, some is better than none and is good enough for me. Wed, 23 Nov 2011 14:30:52 -0800 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_822541 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_822541 watercolour Gazoinks, thanks for that recommendation. I've put 'Making Comics' on my Xmas list. (I read 'Understanding Comics' a few years back and it was on my shelf until I loaned it to someone.) I didn't think I was interested in Noir but I'm also adding 'How to Draw Noir Comics' for tips on that dramatic lighting style. Poppy H, as for how it's going: &gt; I'm pleased to have found a better direction &gt;I've abandon working directly in ink. (Fine for a drawing a real scene, but for rough ideas I'm enjoying pencil work.) &gt;There are a lot of ideas to sift out. Your 'Man Alive' story seems to be going very well. Is it all mapped out to the end? Like 'outliners' and 'pants-ers' in writing, I'm curious to know if you guys mostly start drawing and see where an idea goes, or sketch out the whole story first? Thu, 24 Nov 2011 11:22:09 -0800 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_831867 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_831867 Poppy Hillstead Cheers watercolour! Yeah Man Alive is coming along slowly, I've got it basicly mapped out until the end. What you see on the blog is my horrificly rough first draft for each graphic novel page. I tend to write things up a couple of times and then it takes me a few goes to get a good looking page so at the moment you're seeing a bit of a mess. I've had a look at your blog Watercolour, your artworks looking fantastic, really like your style! I'm thinking that canberra boy redux!! It looks like I'm going to keep going after NaNowrimo has ended! Sun, 27 Nov 2011 18:01:21 -0800 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_868905 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_868905 Twapa I actually wrote the scripts for TWO graphic novels (actually one is a webcomic/graphic novel) for NaNo this year - unfortunately they only got me to 45k so I have to fill up the rest of my wordcount with short stories. XD It's a great thing, though, because I had already started the artwork for both of them (with a few pages written beforehand) and I really needed to get the scripts done - NaNoWriMo was the perfect motivational opportunity for that. XD Yay for graphic novels! Mon, 28 Nov 2011 04:45:37 -0800 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_873554 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/nano-rebels/threads/5451?page=2#forum_thread_comment_873554