Am I a Rebel? Find out here!

Dragonchilde — Mon, 10 Oct 2011 23:04:05 +0100

Am I a rebel? We get this question here a lot. The odds are not; there are some rules that people think are rules, but really aren't! So we're going to touch on the most commonly asked ones. The first rule of NaNoWriMo: If you think it's a novel, so do we. Some people like to know if they are or are not rebellious, though, so we'll let you know if you ask. If you'd like to know if something's against the rules or not, ask in the Rules and Regs forum. Here are the basic rules for winning, as outlined on the How NaNoWriMo Works page. * Write a 50,000-word (or longer!) novel, between November 1 and November 30. * Start from scratch. None of your own previously written prose can be included in your NaNoWriMo draft (though outlines, character sketches, and research are all fine, as are citations from other people's works). * Write a novel. We define a novel as a lengthy work of fiction. If you consider the book you're writing a novel, we consider it a novel too! * Be the sole author of your novel. Apart from those citations mentioned two bullet-points up. * Write more than one word repeated 50,000 times. * Upload your novel for word-count validation to our site between November 25 and November 30. What does being a rebel mean? Does this mean I can't validate, or use the site, or participate in NaNoWriMo? Absolutely NOT! You are 100% welcome. In fact, you're so welcome we gave you this very shiny forum, where people won't accuse you of being a cheater or "not doing it right." Some rebels validate, others don't. We don't check, and we don't care! Some people feel that if they're not doing it by the book, they shouldn't validate. Those people will still get shiny green bars of completion once they hit 50k. Others feel they worked hard, and should get their purple winner's bar and winner's certificate. Neither is wrong! This is a self-challenge. The REAL prize of NaNoWriMo is the accomplishment, and the big new manuscript you have at the end. Everything beyond that is icing on the cake. I won't be writing crap. I'll probably be editing while I write. Am I a rebel? Nope. Writing crap is allowed... not required. Chris Baty asks you to give yourself permission to write crap... but you aren't required to write crap to win. Some of us even manage to churn out pretty decent drafts! Those of you who edit... you're not rebelling either. Editing is discouraged, but not forbidden, and only because when you edit, you slow yourself down and may end up bogged down in worrying about whether or not it is perfect. Plenty of people edit, win, and validate! I'm writing fanfiction. Am I a rebel? Not even a little. The only rule we have for content is that it must be fiction. Beyond that... I'm writing a collection of short stories. Am I a rebel? Probably not. There's no actual rule on this one. We define a novel as "a lengthy work of fiction." However, we the moderators feel that since you find short story collections on the shelves alongside longer works of fiction, if they're related, they count. They need to have some common theme, or linking thread that weaves them together that makes them a single, "lengthy work of fiction." Which leads us to the next: I'm writing a series of unrelated essays/short stories/vignettes. Am I a rebel? Probably. Again, there's no official rule on this one, but if you're just combining unrelated work to get the 50k, it's probably not a novel. I'm writing a memoir/biography/guide to Europe/creative non-fiction. Am I a rebel? Yes. Nonfiction is outside the bounds of the NaNoWriMo challenge. If it's not fiction, then it doesn't fall within the confines of "a lengthy work of fiction." The exception to this is fictionalized memoir; we don't tell you how MUCH fiction you must include. It's up to you to decide. Fictionalized memoirs are okay, true, non-fiction memoirs are rebellion. I'm continuing last year's NaNo, or another work I've been writing on before November. am I a rebel? Yes. You have to start from scratch... scratch doesn't mean with nothing (you can plan), but it does mean that you can't start writing before November 1. To win officially, you need to write your novel, or at least the first 50k of it, between November 1 and November 30. I started this idea, but it never got far. I won't be using the stuff I wrote, but it's the same idea and characters. Am I a rebel? No. Ideas are fine! When you make biscuits from scratch, you sometimes use a recipe, and you don't make the flour and water out of nothing! As long as you set anything you've written aside, don't refer to it, and don't include any of the original prose... it's fine. What if I don't finish my novel at 50k? Am I a rebel? No. 50k is a threshold... not a limit. If you're a vet, you may remember when Chris encouraged you to hit "The End" on November 30, but that's not even recommended anymore. It's a great goal, but if you don't finish, you're not a loser. The goal is to write at least 50k. I'm writing a script. Am I a rebel? Yes. BUT, if you wait until April, you can join The Office of Letters and Light's other challenge, Script Frenzy and write a 100 page script in 30 days. I'm writing a video game/drawing a graphic novel/poetry/music. Am I a rebel? Yes. while these are incredible art forms in and of themselves, we focus on novels. Graphic novels are novels, but we don't have a way to validate them... it has to be text. I'm writing my novel in journal form/as a fictional guide/in verse/insert other strange form here. Am I a rebel? Is it fiction? Then no! We don't care what the format's like. If it's a lengthy work of fiction, we don't even care if you write it on stone tablets in unrhymed verse... it still counts. I don't have a computer, and I'm handwriting my novel. Am I a rebel? No. In fact, we even have a special clause for you handcrampers out there to validate. Check it out the Luddite Clause. Obviously, this is not an exhaustive list, because you guys always come up with something to surprise us. But feel free to ask your "am I a rebel" questions in this thread. We'll try to answer!

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Butterfly — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 20:37:39 +0100

Just a remark: the Luddite Clause link doesn't work - I actually wanted to read it :)

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Dragonchilde — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 00:22:35 +0100

Ooops! Nice catch. I forgot to edit the link for the updated site. :)

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Butterfly — Sat, 15 Oct 2011 17:55:10 +0100

Thanks :)

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miss_technicality — Sat, 15 Oct 2011 21:56:15 +0100

I'm planning on writing two separate 50,000 (or more)-word novels, both in November. They're perfectly 'normal' novels otherwise, I'm just writing two of them simultaneously. Am I a rebel? (Also, the title of this thread is missing the word 'a.' Don't know if that's fixable; just thought I'd point it out...)

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Marauders Girl — Sun, 16 Oct 2011 20:38:31 +0100

Fixed the title. And it depends miss_technicality - if what you mean is that you're writing two novels but both of them will be 50k individually, then no you're not a rebel. But you -would- be a rebel if you're planning to write 50k combined between the two novels and they're not related. In other words.. a collection of short stories which are related or have a common theme - as listed above.. aren't considered rebel work because they have a common theme. However, from what I can tell you're not write short stories - you're writing two legitimate 50k novels - which will total 100k by the end of the month. If this is the case then no, you're not a rebel :) Hopefully that made sense (.. dragonchilde feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about this XD)

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mals86 — Mon, 17 Oct 2011 04:03:53 +0100

I think I'm rebelling. I started a novel over the summer and have put it aside until I can squeeze out time to work on it. I've got, oh, 9K words written on this thing, and I need the Kick in the Pants and/or The Excuse to Tell My Family to Get Out and Leave Me Alone, I'm NaNo-ing. Do your own laundry, people. Cereal in the pantry. My plan is to build on what I've already done, but NOT to include anything I've already written in my word counts. It's locked up in my desk, and I ain't touchin' it until December. No edits, no checking the work for continuity, nothin'. (Okay, fine, it's really on a jump drive, not locked up. My teenage daughter would probably lock it up for me, and laugh in my face if in a fit of insanity I begged her to retrieve it.) It doesn't really matter to me if I'm rebelling or not - I'm going through with the plan. But I like things defined. It's fiction, it's a novel, it'll be 50K words written by me and no one else in November, Lord willin' an' the crick don't rise. It'll just tack on to previously written stuff. Whaddya think? Rebel or no?

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Joseph Staleknight — Mon, 17 Oct 2011 04:30:48 +0100

So, I have this idea for my contribution to this year's NaNoWriMo. Basically, I'm going to write something in the style of James Joyce's -Finnegan's Wake-, which essentially amounts to writing something very surreal and borderline stream-of-consciousness. Now, I'm wondering if that is really rebellious of me to do so, since I feel that not only am I abandoning plot, I'm also going to abandon normal cohesion, instead opting to cram in as much symbolism, puns, and other types of literary devices I possibly can into the space of the "novel". So, is my idea a rebellion or not?

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73LadyB — Mon, 17 Oct 2011 05:40:24 +0100

I'm thinking of combining incidents from real life with fiction. No one will know what is true and what is fiction, am I a rebel? The whole work will be presented as fiction?

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Marauders Girl — Tue, 18 Oct 2011 00:06:13 +0100

Mals86 - Welcome to the Rebel fold! You're definitely a rebel as, even though you won't count the words you wrote earlier in your 50k total, they say you have to start from scratch. Joseph Staleknight - Nano defines "Novel" as a "Lengthy work of fiction" -regardless of whether it's plot, stream of consciousness or what have you - as long as you think you're writing a novel.. we do too! - You're probably not a rebel. 73LadyB - Fictionalized Memoirs (i.e. a memoir combining true events + original fiction) is perfectly legit and not cause for rebel status.

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73LadyB — Tue, 18 Oct 2011 03:53:19 +0100

Thank you so much. Now I can breathe. I'm new and I don't want to start life as a rebel...I'll wait for later to do that.

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1995walkerkatie — Tue, 18 Oct 2011 11:59:08 +0100

Rebel, no doubt about it :).

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mals86 — Tue, 18 Oct 2011 13:23:32 +0100

Embracing my Rebel status!

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jtggodqos — Tue, 18 Oct 2011 15:56:18 +0100

I'm doing similar. I'm actually considering finishing my winning novel from last year. 50,000 words was enough to win, but it wasn't enough to finish the story. perhaps another 50,000 will be.

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Marauders Girl — Tue, 18 Oct 2011 21:06:19 +0100

Yes, do do that LadyB! - Come to the dark side... we has cookies ;)

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Rose M. Welch — Tue, 18 Oct 2011 21:11:20 +0100

It's fiction, it's 50k words, so no, you're not rebelling. See above: "I'm writing my novel in journal form/as a fictional guide/in verse/insert other strange form here. Am I a rebel? Is it fiction? Then no! We don't care what the format's like. If it's a lengthy work of fiction, we don't even care if you write it on stone tablets in unrhymed verse... it still counts."

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Elizard — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:09:14 +0100

ooh cookies I will probably end up being a rebel, I don't think I will make many words this year but I want to come into nano again and have a play. I will see what I end up doing, but will probably be working on an already started piece of fiction. With 2 kids under 3 I need to get this things moving!! cookies please

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Yllaria — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:37:21 +0100

One of the problems with ADHD is forgetfulness. It causes a certain lack of follow through. Sometimes I think it takes me a thousand beginnings to stumble my way to one conclusion. So I figured, why not just accept that. Why not schedule the time to sit and make enough beginnings to reach a conclusion. Hey, It might work. I'm going to be starting out with autobiographical vignettes, but I expect to slide into non-fiction and fiction, just because I have so many collected cool facts and unfinished stories cluttering up my computer. I'm calling my genre Navel Gazing and Found Writing. The "novel" is A Thousand Beginnings. A plot may emerge. Or an ending. You never know. If I get very self-indulgent, I may write entries to three blogs that I've been thinking of forever. Or I may just talk about them in a loose and rambling way. The blogs are: Science With Shit, Geek Vacations, and Fossils Without Dinosaurs. Fear my titles.

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Yentl — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 13:03:23 +0100

I made up a story for NaNo begin Oktober, which I of course shouldn't have, since I loved it so much that I started writing way before NaNo even started xD Then I made up another story to write for NaNo, but I don't want to put my other story on a hold for a month... I was thinking about just writing 1667 words for that story every day, and only counting the words I wrote in November for NaNo. Am I a rebel?

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Dragonchilde — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:52:03 +0100

YEs, continuing an already started story is rebellion. :)

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Dragonchilde — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:52:33 +0100

*provides cookies*

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Peggy51 — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 17:15:49 +0100

I've never attempted Nano before, but I'm definitely a rebel. I've been working on my opus, off and on, since 1995. I'm finally on a roll with it again, and don't want to write anything else right now. I'm not sure I need 50K to finish, but at least I'll write until it feels finished. So, how many pages are we talking about? Does anyone know?

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MiriMouse — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 22:54:49 +0100

I'm doing the exact same thing *tips her hat to you*

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Parrot — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 01:41:58 +0100

I'm doing the same. I plan to add 50,000+ words to finish my last years winning attempt. I'd really like to be able to validate it, though.....*sighs*

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DestyRenee — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 03:30:14 +0100

I want to write a novel, but I'm not exactly sure if it's right to do. I plan to write about my entire life so far, with my softball. I've been playing softball since I was little and have some great achievements. I want to write about what it took to get those. This is my first year of NaNoWriMo though, and I want to make sure I do it right. Would I be a rebel if I wrote about my softball career, sticking to the facts of my life...?

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TheLoveMutt — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 06:21:52 +0100

I wrote a few poems over the past year under a collective title, "The Medication Chronicles." However, I haven't written any short stories or any lengthy prose under that title (yet). I am however using my poems as inspiration and using "The Medication Chronicles" as my NaNo title. No idea if I'll eventually include the poems as chapter headers or anything, but the plan as of right now is no. Am I a rebel? XD

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HM-Marable — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 15:52:34 +0100

I'm doing a connected series of short stories which I am aware doesn't make me a rebel, but what if Ive written some of the stories in the series already? Fully written that is, dont intend to go back during Nano

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sharp — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 19:11:01 +0100

Definitely a rebel. Planning to write only-very-slightly-fictionalized memoir/history. But I need the deadlines and discipline and plan to participate full force. Will what I write count for friendly local competitions?

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loracarol — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 20:45:33 +0100

If I'm writing a sequel/continuation to last years novel, but I'm planning on writing 50,000 this year (so that the grand total of the story length [where last years length=N] is N+50,000) what does that make me? /besides a math nerd. >_>

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K-Koira — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 21:08:42 +0100

I know I'm a rebel this year. I'm planning on writing a training manual for flyball, a dog sport I participate in. No new training manuals have come out in a long time, despite great changes in the sport, equipment, and training methods, and if no one else will do it, I will. But, I want to participate in NaNo without putting off writing this. Not technically fiction, so not technically a novel, but it will be a complete book draft of at least 50,000 words by the end of November, so its close enough for me :) I've participated in NaNoWriMo twice before, but didn't complete my (actual) novels either time, because of running out of steam. I know I won't run out of steam on this project, and would like to get that official completion at the end of the month. Am I allowed to Validate my book at the end of the month?

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tiakall — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 21:09:05 +0100

Hi loracarol, If it's a sequel (i.e., separate novel with its own cover), then you're not a rebel. If it's a continuation (not separate, in the same cover), then you are a rebel. Hi The Love Mutt, If you're not using previous prose, you're not a rebel. Recycling titles is fine. Hi Destyrenee, Yes, you'd be considered a rebel since you're writing a non-fictional memoir. Here's your rebel flag :)

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Eccentric Iconoclast — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 23:28:57 +0100

Am I a rebel? I'm going to be writing something that definitely qualifies as a lengthy work of fiction...but it is certainly not something that I would ever, ever call a novel. What I am going to write is a reference grammar of the language I have constructed as a hobby; basically, pulling together my disparate notes and compiling the information contained therein in a coherent format. So it'll be lengthy, and it'll be a work of fiction since the language is entirely made-up, but it's really not anything like what I would include in the group of things I call novels.

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loracarol — Fri, 21 Oct 2011 01:31:55 +0100

@tiakall Hmmm... That's a good question, do I want it to be a continuation or a sequel... Well, I think the first book is a bit too short to be a stand alone, so I guess it's a continuation, which makes me a NaNo rebel! Cool. :D

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Gemma Knott — Fri, 21 Oct 2011 01:47:19 +0100

Ive written a short prolouge/intro thingey - about 500 words. I'm not including it in my word count - Am I a rebel?

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Dragonchilde — Fri, 21 Oct 2011 03:50:18 +0100

Validation is always allowed. It's on-your-honor, and we do not check content, so anyone can validate anything. :) There's some debate over whether it's ethical or not, but in the end, it doesn't matter. If you feel it should be validated, go for it!

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Dragonchilde — Fri, 21 Oct 2011 03:54:15 +0100

A rebel. :)

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Dragonchilde — Fri, 21 Oct 2011 03:55:14 +0100

Inspiration is fine... I don't think there's anything you just described that makes me think Rebel.

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Dragonchilde — Fri, 21 Oct 2011 04:11:37 +0100

Is it something you plan to include in your novel? Then yes, you're rebelling. However, if you set it aside now, do not refer to it, and start over completely from scratch.. you can avoid rebel status.

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Dragonchilde — Fri, 21 Oct 2011 04:12:17 +0100

Well, the rule for things we don't cover specifically is, "If you think it's a novel, so do we." If you don't think it's a novel... neither do we, and you're a rebel.

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Gehayi — Fri, 21 Oct 2011 14:30:24 +0100

I know I'm a rebel. I've got more than 20K written--it was originally a novella--but I need to expand the story by 30 to 50K and do some extensive rewriting. I know that I'm not going to be able to keep up with the people who write about 5K a day; I just want the impetus to finish the work on the book. I even know that I may not finish by December--that's okay with me as long as I get myself going and am continuing work on it. The main thing that I'm worried about is getting stressed out over NaNo and quitting. I really, REALLY don't want to do that. For that reason, I probably won't be posting much about the book until it's done. I don't want to get all kinds of encouragement and then find that, due to time pressures or illness (my two betes noire), I can't finish.

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HM-Marable — Fri, 21 Oct 2011 18:48:48 +0100

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Dragonchilde — Fri, 21 Oct 2011 22:09:01 +0100

If it's part of the same work, starting before November is definitely rebellion.

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sherpeace — Fri, 21 Oct 2011 22:50:12 +0100

I just posted my question about writing a draft that is very, very different from the 1st draft, but I guess it's not posted here yet. I just wanted to also say that I am not really concerned about getting validated. I also have a concern about posting my entire ms (or the 50K words that I finish). I don't want my writing out there for the thousands or so NaNo writers to be able to read. I mean taking someone to court for stealing your writing is costly and could take years. I tried to find the proper place to bring up this question. I have seen people steal other people's writing many times. It is not uncommon and I can't believe no one has addressed this issue here. I even had a classmate who plagiarized our professor. How stupid can you be thinking he won't recognize his only words. Am I totally confused about how this is done? I looked through the site, but don't see anything addressing this issue.

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moonmomma — Sat, 22 Oct 2011 01:38:44 +0100

You can completely re-write something from word 1 without using or looking at or referring to your previously written text, without being a rebel. Your novel is never posted anywhere where anyone can see it. No one ever sees it. It goes into the word count validator, which is nothing more than a bit of software which counts the spaces between the words and then immediately deletes it. **this means be sure to keep your novel on your computer or online place where you actually wrote it.

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RavenMad — Sun, 23 Oct 2011 18:51:08 +0100

So, I have a validation question. I'm writing a poetry anthology, since I can't write a novel this year (long story), but I'd still like to include it somewhere in my word count that I'm not just bumming around the forums. Sould I just give each poem the arbitrary value of 1,667 words, to keep track? Should I count each poem as a word so that you can tell have 30 at the end? Should I/should I not validate? I'm rather lost here.

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robini — Sun, 23 Oct 2011 19:52:21 +0100

Alright, then. I guess I'm a rebel... finishing a novel that I started this summer and got distracted by life at 18,000 words. Planning on writing another 50,000 or more in November--just blasting through and not bothering with the painful self-editing that I tend to do, and not counting the first 18,000 words. I'm happy to have found a place!

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Dragonchilde — Sun, 23 Oct 2011 20:00:14 +0100

The word count validator can only validate what's there; I don't know that it's strictly ethical to say you wrote more than that when you didn't. Feel free to include the word count of the poems you've written, but I don't see the point of claiming more words than you've actually written.

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Dragonchilde — Sun, 23 Oct 2011 20:00:34 +0100

Yes, continuing existing works is rebellion.

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Senom299 — Sun, 23 Oct 2011 20:09:42 +0100

Fanfiction isn't being a rebel? Oh, darn. There goes my plan for joining the club next year XD

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Marauders Girl — Sun, 23 Oct 2011 20:27:35 +0100

Senom299 - I think you answered your own question - but no.. fanfiction isn't rebellion - it's still a lengthy work of fiction/novel even if it's using someone else's world :)

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ablereach — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 02:20:24 +0100

http://quotesnack.com is my site. I publish credited excerpts, often following up with my own input. I'm thinking of using NaNoWriMo to push myself towards writing a series of essays that I may eventually package together as a book. I'd be happy if I ended up with a personal-use-only "today in quotesnack" almanac that I can scribble in. I'd be happy and satisfied if I also end up with the draft of a book for public consumption. Is there anything I do that can be NaNoWriMo legal? If so, where does the word count begin and end? ......................... Sometimes QuoteSnack posts are as short as this: http://quotesnack.com/oscar-wilde/who-being-loved-is-poor/ These are my own observations and poems: http://quotesnack.com/elizabeth-able/ Sometimes they're more personal: http://quotesnack.com/ralph-waldo-emerson/sometimes-a-scream-is-better-than-a-thesis/ http://quotesnack.com/c-s-lewis/if-you-are-on-the-wrong-road-progress-means-doing-an-about-turn-and-walking-back-to-the-right-road/ Sometimes they're primarily observations about the author of an excerpt: http://quotesnack.com/allen-ginsberg/i-saw-the-best-minds-of-my-generation-destroyed-by-madness/ http://quotesnack.com/margaret-fuller/there-is-no-wholly-masculine-man-no-purely-feminine-woman/

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moonmomma — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 03:47:51 +0100

is any of it a lengthy work of fiction or shorter-but-related works of fiction? then it counts. anything non-fiction -- including personal essays and literary criticism -- makes you a rebel. it's okay to use quotes and stuff from other people as they are relevant to your novel, but just using quotes and exerpts by themselves probably wouldn't qualify.

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ablereach — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 04:48:57 +0100

"anything non-fiction -- including personal essays and literary criticism -- makes you a rebel" That's me, this time. I'm going to need a halo. Thanks!

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OceanWater — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 05:19:12 +0100

I'm writing a memoir (somewhat) that's going to be fictionalized but...I'm think of fictionalizing it in Harry Potter/Alex Rider/Gallagher Girls/whatever I can fit in. Which basically means it's a Memoir Fanfiction Crossover. So that basically means I write the memoir but say I turn my school into hogwarts and all the characters into students, and then add more people for different fandoms into it... So...I noticed it didn't say anything about Crossovers (which if you don't know is when you cross two or more different fandoms together)... Sorry if this sounds a bit stupid but I want to be sure. ^-^" Forgive me great deities of NaNoWriMo, but I just have one more question...What in the world is a fictional guide? Thank you.

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TheMilkmansDaughter — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 20:13:27 +0100

I am writing a collection of personal essays (non-fiction) about teaching and the stories/students/issues/heartbreak/triumphs that define the lives of teachers. I realize that I am definitely a NaNo rebel. I'm not sure yet if I'm going to validate. All I know is that I'm grateful for the motivation that NaNo provides!!

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dp99 — Tue, 25 Oct 2011 01:44:05 +0100

Continuing last year's NaNo. 50,000 fresh words, here I come! :D

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Marauders Girl — Tue, 25 Oct 2011 02:55:21 +0100

Fictionalized memoirs aren't considered rebellion :) Nor are crossovers. ... And I have no idea what a fictional guide is sorrryyy

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moonmomma — Tue, 25 Oct 2011 03:31:35 +0100

you can get your halo by donating to NaNoWriMo! see the "Donations/Store" tab above.

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Ivy9 — Tue, 25 Oct 2011 05:22:10 +0100

Woo hoo, nonfiction memoir, I finally found my group! And what do you know, just like my boss says, I'm a rebel...

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DivaDana — Tue, 25 Oct 2011 15:27:09 +0100

I'm right there with you! I'm over halfway finished with my current MS. Another 50K will finish it (and more since I already have 57K). I'll do the same as you, then, and only post what I write in November. Yay!! I was worried about having to put it off for a month and start on something fresh. No more! I'm a Rebel!

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ShirleyCouts — Tue, 25 Oct 2011 15:42:35 +0100

I could rewrite a book I started but I am more interested in writing a semi-fictiionalized story about my personal experience having learned I had a strange "thing in my head" which no one else in the world except some woman in Germany also has. The story is pretty odd and funny although more than anything--I think I might call it something like Help. I Might Be a Zombie I also have an idea based on my funny quest for finding a mate at my age which would be based on a series of Facebook status entries from my date match fiascos. Are either of those two non-fiction? Should I stick with the mystery novel?

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moonmomma — Tue, 25 Oct 2011 17:30:21 +0100

fictionalized memoirs (based on real life but with made-up stuff in them, as I understand it) count for NaNo non-rebel status.

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Foxstar2000 — Tue, 25 Oct 2011 21:27:09 +0100

Well, guess I'm a rebel. Maybe. I'm writing fanfiction, but since I have so many different ideas I'm just gonna get 50k combined for my goal to win. I'd rather have a lot of different stuff written instead of 50,000 words of one story, since most of them won't get over 50,000 anyway. Oh, and they're all unconnected. :p Rebel time!

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sammie.girl — Tue, 25 Oct 2011 22:09:16 +0100

Would an anthology be okay if they all have the same general theme? I've been wanting to try it for awhile.

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cms1171 — Tue, 25 Oct 2011 22:10:55 +0100

I, too, have a winning 50,000k + word MS from a couple years ago that is not a finished MS. So I am signing in under rebel status to stay motivated to get it completed. I have a feeling a lot of what I have is going to end up being changed anyway, so who knows- I may end up with 50,000 new words. As long as I get it finished, regardless of how many words I write in November, I will be pleased.

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Glaedr — Wed, 26 Oct 2011 01:37:03 +0100

Does it count as continuing last year's novel if you're completely rewriting it? I may end up using the odd line here and there but the majority will be rewritten and plot-tweaked, and I plan to keep track of how many words I reuse so that I can make sure I write at least 50k more than that.

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Yellinia — Wed, 26 Oct 2011 02:32:24 +0100

I realize that the question of continuing previously-started novels has been answered, but am I a rebel if I don't put into the word-counter the stuff I wrote before Nov. 1? If I'm continuing a novel, but I don't count the old stuff for this NaNo, am I a rebel? I suppose I could call it a temporary sequel ... ;) and then slap it back on in December. Haha.

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Jessica Grace — Wed, 26 Oct 2011 06:27:33 +0100

I've got about 23,000 words already, but 15,000 of that is character sketch. The remainder I could leave out/rewrite if necessary, so I don't know. Am I a rebel?

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artgoyle — Wed, 26 Oct 2011 12:36:35 +0100

I am planning to write a biography (with a friend), some parts maybe fictional and some people might argue the MC is fictional. For us she does exist. She has some pretty famous parents (both died, in 1968 en 2004). For now I am investigating the parts of the parents, how they met, the childhood of my MC etc etc. I am also collecting proof she exists. Most part of the book is a fact.

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artgoyle — Wed, 26 Oct 2011 12:40:49 +0100

Most of my book is going to be non-fiction with footnotes too! Am I a rebel? Part of the book will be academic, part will be fiction, where I have no proof what my MC did in thise years (it's a biography).

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artgoyle — Wed, 26 Oct 2011 12:43:15 +0100

What if I would translate my (published) book from two years ago? Does that make me a rebel? It would be the same book then, just different words.

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moonmomma — Wed, 26 Oct 2011 18:53:03 +0100

Are any of your ideas going to end up as completed stories/novels? Because it kind of sounds like you're planning to write 50,000 words worth of partial stories? You might want to consider putting your NaNo effort into finishing just one or two things (regardless of length or whether they're related or not) instead of writing a lot of half-finished stories. Finishing a novel takes practice, and NaNo is perfect for making yourself do that.

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moonmomma — Wed, 26 Oct 2011 18:54:14 +0100

collections of short stories that are related to each other (same character, setting, theme, or however they're related) count for NaNo.

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moonmomma — Wed, 26 Oct 2011 18:55:55 +0100

Since the intent is to be non-fiction, not to be a novel, it's probably rebellion.

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moonmomma — Wed, 26 Oct 2011 18:58:45 +0100

I did this with an old novel I was having trouble finishing. I scrapped the whole thing and re-wrote it from word 1. I kept a few scenes in mind that were going to appear in the new version, but I wrote them from scratch, straight from my head, instead of copying or using the old text. If you rewrite from the beginning and don't copy or refer to your previous version at all, it counts for NaNo.

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WhiskeyChick — Wed, 26 Oct 2011 21:44:50 +0100

I will be writing a series of short stories (non-fiction, one story per day) from my life, both about me and about the events that transpire around me, in order to paint a larger picture of the person I am at this stage in my life. Seems that a lot of people questioning rebel status are going for the personal memoir route.

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Marauders Girl — Wed, 26 Oct 2011 23:08:33 +0100

Jessica Grace - Anything at all (even one word) written before November 1st that you include in your actual novel written between Nov 1-Nov 30th makes you a rebel. Artgoyle - .. If you mean like translate it into a different language? .. I Think that's still rebellion.. it's still the same book/story and the words in the other language still mean the same thing..

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Dragonchilde — Thu, 27 Oct 2011 01:13:31 +0100

[quote=Glaedr] Does it count as continuing last year's novel if you're completely rewriting it? I may end up using the odd line here and there but the majority will be rewritten and plot-tweaked, and I plan to keep track of how many words I reuse so that I can make sure I write at least 50k more than that. [/quote] That's more editing than writing from scratch. I'm fairly sure that's rebellion.

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Dragonchilde — Thu, 27 Oct 2011 01:14:33 +0100

[quote=artgoyle] What if I would translate my (published) book from two years ago? Does that make me a rebel? It would be the same book then, just different words. [/quote] Yes, that's rebellion. You're not writing from scratch, you're rewriting in a different language.

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Dragonchilde — Thu, 27 Oct 2011 01:15:09 +0100

[quote=WhiskeyChick] I will be writing a series of short stories (non-fiction, one story per day) from my life, both about me and about the events that transpire around me, in order to paint a larger picture of the person I am at this stage in my life. Seems that a lot of people questioning rebel status are going for the personal memoir route. [/quote] YEs, that's rebellion. More the nonfiction part than the short stories part.

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SarasInParis — Thu, 27 Oct 2011 01:22:07 +0100

I always need to know the rules so I know exactly what I'm breaking. This describes my project to a T. Proud to be a rebel now!

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xbluephantomx — Thu, 27 Oct 2011 02:58:31 +0100

So... If I have a half done story, I'm not allowed to use it here?

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esfilce — Thu, 27 Oct 2011 06:08:52 +0100

I am writing a series of short stories about mythological figures being reborn in the modern age (basically I am using the mythology as a basis for the characters so perhaps not starting entirely from scratch?). The same group of 9 MC's in the same world, either past or present. Would I be a rebel?

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AddieCane — Thu, 27 Oct 2011 08:10:35 +0100

Writing a story with a friend -- I have to it was a joint idea. I can either do it with them, or we can both write the joint idea as a string of short stories. However we are both college students and would prefer the first option of jointly writing the story. Rebel(s), right?

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Kataja — Thu, 27 Oct 2011 10:28:09 +0100

That does not sound as rebellion to me, as having ideas etc from before, writing fanfic, etc. are all prefectly within the rules for Nano. Using characters from mythology is perfectly OK also, as it is not the word-by-word story, but the characters. People rewrite fairytales etc, and that is perfectly along the rules. The only thing that might be rebellion is the fact that you are doing several short stories. But as long as there is a connecting thing, not even that. (I have been playing with the tought of retelling Sumerian legends - not this year, though, that needs research, i.e. hunting the legends down in good translations from original, not only sloppily told history book plot synopses)

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Glaedr — Thu, 27 Oct 2011 12:19:05 +0100

I doubt it'll have more than a couple of odd sentences from the original, if that. Oh well.

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Marauders Girl — Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:32:44 +0100

Xblue - using it makes you a rebel, but that's why you're -here- in the rebel board right? ;) Esfilce - as long as you don't use anything actually -written- before November 1st in your novel you're not a rebel. You can plot, plan, research, outline, character develop etc. Addie Cane - Yep you're rebels

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Neroli Krumlov — Thu, 27 Oct 2011 17:36:21 +0100

If I'm a rebel I ain't sayin'! Actually I 'm not really a rebel but I fully support conscientious rebellion.

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Dragonchilde — Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:48:15 +0100

[quote=xbluephantomx] So... If I have a half done story, I'm not allowed to use it here? [/quote] It's not a question of allowing it or not. Using it would be against the rules, but rebels are welcome to use our site anyway!

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Dragonchilde — Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:53:23 +0100

[quote=esfilce] I am writing a series of short stories about mythological figures being reborn in the modern age (basically I am using the mythology as a basis for the characters so perhaps not starting entirely from scratch?). The same group of 9 MC's in the same world, either past or present. Would I be a rebel? [/quote] Not even a little bit. :) You can use existing works as inspiration, and even use pre-existing characters from other works entirely!

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Dragonchilde — Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:53:38 +0100

[quote=AddieCane] Writing a story with a friend -- I have to it was a joint idea. I can either do it with them, or we can both write the joint idea as a string of short stories. However we are both college students and would prefer the first option of jointly writing the story. Rebel(s), right? [/quote] Yes, co-writing is rebellion.

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Mikita5510 — Thu, 27 Oct 2011 20:31:21 +0100

ok im gonna be a partial rebel my story is a journal type mixing real with some fiction.. the fiction I wont tell what it is so you wont know and the real the same so you wont be able to guess..... hey its not my fault out of all the story ideas in my head this is the only one that seems to be getting any better as the day gets closer...... LOL :D

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Dragonchilde — Thu, 27 Oct 2011 21:07:58 +0100

[quote=Mikita5510] ok im gonna be a partial rebel my story is a journal type mixing real with some fiction.. the fiction I wont tell what it is so you wont know and the real the same so you wont be able to guess..... hey its not my fault out of all the story ideas in my head this is the only one that seems to be getting any better as the day gets closer...... LOL :D [/quote] There's no prescribed amount of fiction that you have to have for it to count. We just state that the work must be a lengthy work of fiction. How much is up to you... in general, there's no partial rebellion. You either are, or aren't. :)

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moritherapy — Fri, 28 Oct 2011 07:10:35 +0100

depending on your line spacing etc. it's about 300 words per page

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moritherapy — Fri, 28 Oct 2011 07:16:02 +0100

hmm, apparently being a rebel is real easy. i'm going to work towards finishing a novel i've been working on off and on since 2006 or so. my goal all this year has been to finish it by the end of this year. another 50,000 words will take me very close. i find this WAY more difficult than the complete-ish novel i wrote for nanowrimo in 2009. but to top it off, i also have to be careful with the 50,000 words. i do want to push myself but not too hard - i do have a body and a mind that need TLC. so i still need to work on figuring out how to do that. but i tell you, if i honestly think i've gone and done what i've set out to do, i'm a gonna get myself that badge! so there!

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DreamArc — Fri, 28 Oct 2011 15:16:11 +0100

I just raised my hand in the Rebel Forum to stand strong with the brave fellows there. I am taking the outline for last years NaNo novel and completely rewriting it from scratch. Word One on Day One. The ideas have merit, but it took me a year of mulling the old draft over to decide how to best treat them. So, I am not sure if this counts as rebellion or not, but I have taken a stand and will not fail my fellow Rebels.

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dulcesolodka — Fri, 28 Oct 2011 21:16:00 +0100

I know I'm a rebel: I'm hoping to write in German, a language I'm not terrifically proficient in, and as such I'm going to modify my word count to something ambitious but theoretically possible. I know I can't validate a less-than-50,000-word-novel and win, but is it okay, if I succeed at my chosen word count, to say that I won this year?

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lunaKM — Fri, 28 Oct 2011 23:57:23 +0100

I'm doing a blog contentpalooza - definitely rebel. It's all on the same topic/theme but I have a goal of developing: 50 blog posts (500-1000 words) 10 one week ecourses (5-7 lessons per course) 10K ebook 3 5K ebooks, charts or workbooks 1 blog series, later to be an ebook goodness knows what else

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sarah57754 — Sat, 29 Oct 2011 01:08:20 +0100

I intend to write a series of short stories, but they are only loosely connected. They are going to be horror stories, but with different plots. I want to self-publish them together as one book after NaNo. (once they are edited of course) so while they aren't linked by actual characters or a specific theme, they are all of the same genre and intended to be published together. Does that make me a rebel or not?

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karmagrl76 — Sat, 29 Oct 2011 01:21:13 +0100

I'm a rebel and I'll never ever be any good...and if you read some of the stuff I write, you'd agree. But seriously, I plan on continuing a story I've been working on for the past year because I don't want to put it away while I start on something new. I know it goes against the rules, but I just want to get the thing finished and out of my hair. If it ever gets published (insert hysterical laughter here) I'll give NaNoWriMo a mention.

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Emdog — Sat, 29 Oct 2011 01:25:47 +0100

I am so tempted to do this too. I am at a really good point in my WIP and if I added 50k words I would likely be done by November 30th!!

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Emdog — Sat, 29 Oct 2011 01:28:35 +0100

175 pages=50,000 words, right?

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Emdog — Sat, 29 Oct 2011 01:30:06 +0100

and they give you instructions on how to scramble it.

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Emdog — Sat, 29 Oct 2011 01:36:57 +0100

I am writing a novel inspired by a blog I wrote. I will be including exerpts from the blog (that I will have to heavily edit to protect the innocent) BUT THE STORY WILL BE FIction. sorry for the caps..practicing not editing! Am I a rebel?

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karmagrl76 — Sat, 29 Oct 2011 13:47:04 +0100

I'm doing the same thing.

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Dragonchilde — Sat, 29 Oct 2011 15:25:46 +0100

[quote=Emdog] I am writing a novel inspired by a blog I wrote. I will be including exerpts from the blog (that I will have to heavily edit to protect the innocent) BUT THE STORY WILL BE FIction. sorry for the caps..practicing not editing! Am I a rebel? [/quote] Since you're including previously written excerpts, yes, that is rebellion.

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Dragonchilde — Sat, 29 Oct 2011 15:27:01 +0100

[quote=DreamArc] I just raised my hand in the Rebel Forum to stand strong with the brave fellows there. I am taking the outline for last years NaNo novel and completely rewriting it from scratch. Word One on Day One. The ideas have merit, but it took me a year of mulling the old draft over to decide how to best treat them. So, I am not sure if this counts as rebellion or not, but I have taken a stand and will not fail my fellow Rebels. [/quote] Nope... reusing old ideas and scrapping the old novel is not rebellion. :) You are not a rebel with this project. :)

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Dragonchilde — Sat, 29 Oct 2011 15:28:16 +0100

[quote=sarah57754] I intend to write a series of short stories, but they are only loosely connected. They are going to be horror stories, but with different plots. I want to self-publish them together as one book after NaNo. (once they are edited of course) so while they aren't linked by actual characters or a specific theme, they are all of the same genre and intended to be published together. Does that make me a rebel or not? [/quote] From the first post: [quote] I'm writing a collection of short stories. Am I a rebel? Probably not. There's no actual rule on this one. We define a novel as "a lengthy work of fiction." However, we the moderators feel that since you find short story collections on the shelves alongside longer works of fiction, if they're related, they count. They need to have some common theme, or linking thread that weaves them together that makes them a single, "lengthy work of fiction." [/quote]

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campylobacter — Sat, 29 Oct 2011 16:59:41 +0100

I'm a Rebel, no question. I first intended to read lots of fanfic and write 50,000 total words of comments/feedback to the authors -- of course that's non-fiction *about* fiction. Reading 50,000 words of fanfiction and writing at least 1667 words worth of comments seems a more realistic goal. If I divide 1667 by the 30 days of November, that's about 56 words. I Tweet a LOT, which has honed my editing skills to a razor's edge because 140 characters (including spaces + punctuation) = about 20-25 words. So Tweeting 56 words a day = about 3 Tweets. MINE IS AN EVIL LAUGH

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SunflowerRei — Sat, 29 Oct 2011 20:00:36 +0100

I'm a Rebel and proud of it. I have a novel I've been puttering away on. I have about 32,000 words written and lots more to go. I'm using NaNo to light a fire under my butt and give me the discipline to finish it already. I'll only validate what I've written in November, of course, since I want to add 50,000 or more words.

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typewriterss — Sat, 29 Oct 2011 22:48:55 +0100

If I write Part 2 of a story I've already started, does that make me a rebel?

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mwisebaker — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 04:29:06 +0000

I'm writing a novel-length sequel (not continuation) of a short story I wrote earlier this year. Am I a rebel?

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mwisebaker — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 04:41:49 +0000

Ha nvm, I see my question was already answered. Yay for not being a rebel!

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flightlesskiwi — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 07:21:10 +0000

I'm in exactly the same position. I'm doing NaNo to motivate myself to finally finish the damn thing ;-)

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Penemuel — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 08:34:35 +0000

So... in my effort to actually outline/make notes for my novel, I came up with a very short introduction for the story. If I don't write things down when I come up with them, I can never remember them correctly later, and this was a week ago -- it would be long gone by Nov. 1. Does that one 57 word paragraph make me a rebel?

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artgoyle — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 09:16:25 +0000

That's all I needed to know!

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Marauders Girl — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 19:05:57 +0000

Yes

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Marauders Girl — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 19:09:22 +0000

This is... dicey.. I think you'd get a lot of different opinions. Some people would say yes - even one word makes you a rebel. I -PERSONALLY- and this is not necessarily Nano's standard - don't think 1 57 word paragraph is enough to be concerned with if that's all you do and don't write anymore. Because in that way it makes it more of a "thought" you don't want to forget. Sometimes in my outlines I'll have a character give me a quote I don't want to forget - such as the first year the tagline for my novel is also a quote by one of the characters ("Being a man isn't just about glory and honor.") and I came up with it before November and I wouldn't have considered myself a rebel for that. (I was already a rebel because I was continuing the year before's story but that's way beside the point). So yeah.. that's my own opinion on that.

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Penemuel — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 19:40:08 +0000

Thanks - that was kind of my read on it, too. :)

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Aeria in Flight — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 20:08:14 +0000

AAahhhh... I think I love your genre and would slip into it effortlessly. Best wishes on A Thousand Beginnings- plot/ending, optional.

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Aeria in Flight — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 20:44:34 +0000

I agree and what a great idea!!

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JankaW — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 21:20:19 +0000

I am writing a modernized version of a classic. I do not plan to include any text from the original verbatim, but I have used the scenes and chapters in it to outline my work. The outline is ready, but I haven't written anything yet. Am I a rebel?

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stillalive — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 22:27:52 +0000

I would imagine you are, since some of your work has already been written. I'm not a mod or anything, though! :)

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stillalive — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 22:29:56 +0000

I'm in a similar boat. I got about 12000ish (maybe? Not sure?) of a novel written between September and now. I'm going to use it as part of my novel, but I'm bumping my wordcount requirement for myself up to 75,000 to make up for it and then some. I just need the companionship and energy of WriMo to finish my manuscript!

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mikescott — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 22:47:15 +0000

This question could be complicated, but I'm honestly not sure whether I'm a rebel or not, so here goes. I've been writing on my blog a series of short episodic stories with a single character, Catrina. She's nearly to the end of her second story arc (one more episode and it's done), and then I was going to write a full-fledged NaNo novel starring her. So it would be a third story arc, so to speak, but written as an actual novel, not a series of short stories. I'd planned to use some of the characters from the previous episodes, but I hadn't planned to copy any of the episodes themselves into the novel. At most, the characters in the novel might refer to previous events. I suppose the best way to describe the novel is that it's a sequel to the blog posts, sorta like the Serenity movie to the Firefly TV series, except Nathan Fillion isn't in it. (c'est tragique). So.....am I a rebel?

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Dragonchilde — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 23:13:16 +0000

[quote=JankaW] I am writing a modernized version of a classic. I do not plan to include any text from the original verbatim, but I have used the scenes and chapters in it to outline my work. The outline is ready, but I haven't written anything yet. Am I a rebel? [/quote] Nope. Outlining is totally okay. I'm actually doing the same thing... only no outline. I kinda suck at those.

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Dragonchilde — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 23:14:03 +0000

[quote=mikescott] This question could be complicated, but I'm honestly not sure whether I'm a rebel or not, so here goes. I've been writing on my blog a series of short episodic stories with a single character, Catrina. She's nearly to the end of her second story arc (one more episode and it's done), and then I was going to write a full-fledged NaNo novel starring her. So it would be a third story arc, so to speak, but written as an actual novel, not a series of short stories. I'd planned to use some of the characters from the previous episodes, but I hadn't planned to copy any of the episodes themselves into the novel. At most, the characters in the novel might refer to previous events. I suppose the best way to describe the novel is that it's a sequel to the blog posts, sorta like the Serenity movie to the Firefly TV series, except Nathan Fillion isn't in it. (c'est tragique). So.....am I a rebel? [/quote] Not even a little bit. Sequels and using preexisting characters are both fine. It sounds to me like you're writing a standalone novel without using any pre-existing work.

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Dragonchilde — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 23:14:16 +0000

[quote=stillalive] I'm in a similar boat. I got about 12000ish (maybe? Not sure?) of a novel written between September and now. I'm going to use it as part of my novel, but I'm bumping my wordcount requirement for myself up to 75,000 to make up for it and then some. I just need the companionship and energy of WriMo to finish my manuscript! [/quote] Yep, that's rebellion. :)

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Dragonchilde — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 23:15:16 +0000

[quote=typewriterss] If I write Part 2 of a story I've already started, does that make me a rebel? [/quote] Is it a separate novel, as in a sequel, or part 2 of the same book? If it's the latter, it's rebellion. If it's the former, it's not.

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Dragonchilde — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 23:15:59 +0000

[quote=mwisebaker] I'm writing a novel-length sequel (not continuation) of a short story I wrote earlier this year. Am I a rebel? [/quote] Nope. Sequels are fine!

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Dragonchilde — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 23:17:44 +0000

[quote=Penemuel] So... in my effort to actually outline/make notes for my novel, I came up with a very short introduction for the story. If I don't write things down when I come up with them, I can never remember them correctly later, and this was a week ago -- it would be long gone by Nov. 1. Does that one 57 word paragraph make me a rebel? [/quote] Strictly according to the rules, yes. However, most people don't see any big deal with a start that small. In the end, it's up to you whether or not you're rebelling. If you feel like that 57 word start will invalidate your win, don't use it. You could set it aside, not refer to it, and call it a false start, and you'd be legitimate.

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Dragonchilde — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 23:18:50 +0000

[quote=Jessica Grace] I've got about 23,000 words already, but 15,000 of that is character sketch. The remainder I could leave out/rewrite if necessary, so I don't know. Am I a rebel? [/quote] Yes. Pre-existing work = rebellion!

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Dragonchilde — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 23:19:59 +0000

[quote=dulcesolodka] I know I'm a rebel: I'm hoping to write in German, a language I'm not terrifically proficient in, and as such I'm going to modify my word count to something ambitious but theoretically possible. I know I can't validate a less-than-50,000-word-novel and win, but is it okay, if I succeed at my chosen word count, to say that I won this year? [/quote] Well, you really wouldn't be winning, as you aren't abiding by the spirit or rules of the challenge. Whether or not you want to claim a win, in the end, is up to you.

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Dragonchilde — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 23:20:12 +0000

[quote=lunaKM] I'm doing a blog contentpalooza - definitely rebel. It's all on the same topic/theme but I have a goal of developing: 50 blog posts (500-1000 words) 10 one week ecourses (5-7 lessons per course) 10K ebook 3 5K ebooks, charts or workbooks 1 blog series, later to be an ebook goodness knows what else [/quote] That is most assuredly rebllion!

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Dragonchilde — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 23:20:55 +0000

[quote=campylobacter] I'm a Rebel, no question. I first intended to read lots of fanfic and write 50,000 total words of comments/feedback to the authors -- of course that's non-fiction *about* fiction. Reading 50,000 words of fanfiction and writing at least 1667 words worth of comments seems a more realistic goal. If I divide 1667 by the 30 days of November, that's about 56 words. I Tweet a LOT, which has honed my editing skills to a razor's edge because 140 characters (including spaces + punctuation) = about 20-25 words. So Tweeting 56 words a day = about 3 Tweets. MINE IS AN EVIL LAUGH [/quote] Yes, that's rebellion (although this thread is more for asking if you are a rebel, not declaring your intention to be one. :) That's the other sticky thread!)

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Dragonchilde — Sun, 30 Oct 2011 23:21:19 +0000

[quote=SunflowerRei] I'm a Rebel and proud of it. I have a novel I've been puttering away on. I have about 32,000 words written and lots more to go. I'm using NaNo to light a fire under my butt and give me the discipline to finish it already. I'll only validate what I've written in November, of course, since I want to add 50,000 or more words. [/quote] You should probably post this on the other thread. This thread is more for asking if you are a rebel, rather than declaring that you are. :)

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Lady Alina — Mon, 31 Oct 2011 02:13:26 +0000

It does now!!!

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SharonAshwood — Mon, 31 Oct 2011 04:43:03 +0000

I'm a rebel - I'm using NaNo to finish my novel's initial draft. I'm nine chapters in and a little extra motivation and support will help me get to the deadline in good order. Why slog it alone when I can do it in good company?

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Countess Meep — Mon, 31 Oct 2011 12:06:46 +0000

I like to write and I like to draw (mostly stick figures) that usually illustrates my story. Am I a rebel?

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Dragonchilde — Mon, 31 Oct 2011 18:01:25 +0000

[quote=Countess Meep] I like to write and I like to draw (mostly stick figures) that usually illustrates my story. Am I a rebel? [/quote] Not at all! Many artists do NaNo, and like to illustrate their stories. The only problem is that no images may be included in your document to be validated, simply because it only takes plain text copy and paste. :) That doesn't mean you can't include them! In fact, we have an entire forum for artists, NaNo Artisans!

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Dragonchilde — Mon, 31 Oct 2011 18:02:01 +0000

[quote=SharonAshwood] I'm a rebel - I'm using NaNo to finish my novel's initial draft. I'm nine chapters in and a little extra motivation and support will help me get to the deadline in good order. Why slog it alone when I can do it in good company? [/quote] I think you meant to introduce yourself over here. This thread is for asking if you are. :) Not so much announcing it.

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Caren4u — Mon, 31 Oct 2011 18:34:06 +0000

I'm going to fictionalize my memoir at least start that way and see where it gets me. I may write it as short stories with a common thread. I'm attempting to be "legal" but my past tells me I may be most comfortable here in the company of fellow rebels! Glad to be here!

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copacetic — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 00:50:05 +0000

I'm with ya there, Caren4u; I had a bunch of projects to choose from for my first NaNoWriMo, and I originally settled on a sci-fi/fantasy that's been brewing in the back of my head, but just today I realized what I needed was a more realistic goal, something I'm more certain of. Heading to my dashboard to change the description of my project now, in fact. I'll be writing a fictionalized memoir as well - same kind of thing as you described! Feeling this is borderline rebellious, so I'm joining the rebel ranks here. Go, us!

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copacetic — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 00:54:08 +0000

Oh I am SO in! I hope you have Snickerdoodles. Them's my fave.

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GaaraHinataWake — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 03:14:02 +0000

So if I contiue an idea from a story that I have already written. I mean, it's like a sequel to the first story, different conflicts, new characters, different plotline, but some characters from the other story. Am I a rebel?

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Wragziez — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 03:32:46 +0000

Would something like "20 times Alexander comforted Tyler," be a novel?

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RangerDenni — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 04:46:40 +0000

Same here. I actually validated a book I didn't feel good about because I had written about 60000 words worth of original content. But it was in no way okay in my heart. So I didn't follow through on anything clean-up-wise. I am actually going to follow through on my idea (rebellious, because its a fictionalized memoirs), use some of the content I have previously used, but write 50,000 (probably more!) words worth of new material, not typing or planning a thing until the stroke of midnight (17 minutes from now, here). Who knows? I may just use my previous material as planning notes? I may not like any of it. But I am rebellious nonetheless. Rebelliously playing by the rebellious..uh..book. heh.

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YaslanaGirl — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 06:46:00 +0000

What if I have an idea for what I want my fanfiction/crossover to end up being, and have a super detailed outline, but have started writing (just this morning ^_^) in what will be the third arc of the plot-line... simply put, I have not started at the beginning, and don't expect to continue in any sort of "chronological" (or otherwise) order. am I being rebellious?

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Silverzel — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 10:42:23 +0000

Hi, great thread! I'm writing non-fiction, about nutrition and fitness. This is a great opportunity to learn how to write non-fiction stuff as well. Good luck to everyone.

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Marauders Girl — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 15:46:14 +0000

Nope you're not a rebel.

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Marauders Girl — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 15:47:35 +0000

Sorry? I'm not entirely sure what you're asking - if you mean writing that up to 50k.. I guess -technically- but.. it's.. not really in the spirit of Nano.

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Marauders Girl — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 15:47:57 +0000

Nope! write in any order you like :) *dang it* - that was a reply for the person above... *sigh* Oh well.

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Wragziez — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 15:53:34 +0000

Sorry for confusing, I mean writing 20 scenarios where Alex comforts Tyler, would that count? Sorry if this still doesn't make sense, I'm not the best at explaining.

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TheMomInformed — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 16:01:30 +0000

OMG...rebel here. I started writing my memoir. Not fictionalized. Ugh. Dang, and I got to 2,000 words just his morning. Oh well, my life is truly fascinating and seems fictionalized anyway.

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Marauders Girl — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 16:17:42 +0000

That would still be a novel and I can't see that it would be a rebellious one :)

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blackroseinc — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 17:58:59 +0000

I finished the MilWordy challenge in October with 1.5 million words, but now I have 13 notebooks and over 300 pages of writing material on the Renaissance Period of Italy. My thought process is shot, so my rebillion this year is to collect all this information and write a biography on the rise and fall of Renaissance Italy.

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Dragonchilde — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 20:53:18 +0000

[quote=Caren4u] I'm going to fictionalize my memoir at least start that way and see where it gets me. I may write it as short stories with a common thread. I'm attempting to be "legal" but my past tells me I may be most comfortable here in the company of fellow rebels! Glad to be here! [/quote] Fictionalized memoirs aren't rebellion. :) But you're welcome to post where you like.

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Dragonchilde — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 20:53:40 +0000

[quote=copacetic] I'm with ya there, Caren4u; I had a bunch of projects to choose from for my first NaNoWriMo, and I originally settled on a sci-fi/fantasy that's been brewing in the back of my head, but just today I realized what I needed was a more realistic goal, something I'm more certain of. Heading to my dashboard to change the description of my project now, in fact. I'll be writing a fictionalized memoir as well - same kind of thing as you described! Feeling this is borderline rebellious, so I'm joining the rebel ranks here. Go, us! [/quote] Fictionalized memoirs aren't rebellion. :)

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Dragonchilde — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 20:54:02 +0000

[quote=GaaraHinataWake] So if I contiue an idea from a story that I have already written. I mean, it's like a sequel to the first story, different conflicts, new characters, different plotline, but some characters from the other story. Am I a rebel? [/quote] No, sequels are not rebellion. :)

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Dragonchilde — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 20:54:22 +0000

[quote=Wragziez] Would something like "20 times Alexander comforted Tyler," be a novel? [/quote] I'm not familiar with the work in question. Could you be more specific about what you're writing?

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Dragonchilde — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 20:55:31 +0000

[quote=RangerDenni] Same here. I actually validated a book I didn't feel good about because I had written about 60000 words worth of original content. But it was in no way okay in my heart. So I didn't follow through on anything clean-up-wise. I am actually going to follow through on my idea (rebellious, because its a fictionalized memoirs), use some of the content I have previously used, but write 50,000 (probably more!) words worth of new material, not typing or planning a thing until the stroke of midnight (17 minutes from now, here). Who knows? I may just use my previous material as planning notes? I may not like any of it. But I am rebellious nonetheless. Rebelliously playing by the rebellious..uh..book. heh. [/quote] Fictionalized memoirs are not actually rebellion. :) We don't have a rule about how much must be fiction to count. However, using existing work is indeed rebellion.

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Dragonchilde — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 20:56:02 +0000

[quote=YaslanaGirl] What if I have an idea for what I want my fanfiction/crossover to end up being, and have a super detailed outline, but have started writing (just this morning ^_^) in what will be the third arc of the plot-line... simply put, I have not started at the beginning, and don't expect to continue in any sort of "chronological" (or otherwise) order. am I being rebellious? [/quote] Is it a standalone novel, though? If it is, it's not rebellion. You're not required to write in any order, nor start at the beginning.

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Dragonchilde — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 20:56:18 +0000

[quote=Silverzel] Hi, great thread! I'm writing non-fiction, about nutrition and fitness. This is a great opportunity to learn how to write non-fiction stuff as well. Good luck to everyone. [/quote] Yes, nonfiction is rebellion.

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black_fire_weyr — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 20:56:41 +0000

Am I a rebel: I am going to write two inter-related stories. One will be the holy book of the characters in the other book and will be rather short. However, these stories are inside of a series which has already been established... at least in my head. So despite being blasphemous, is this a rebellion?

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Dragonchilde — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 20:57:28 +0000

Folks, just to clarify, this thread is NOT for announcing that you are a rebel. That thread is over here. This thread is ONLY for those who wish to ASK if their project is rebellion. Let's keep this thread easy to navigate, okay?

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skywaters — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 21:06:00 +0000

I am continuing a novel I put down a few months ago. Can you confirm? Does this make me a rebel or not?

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craftmafia — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 22:04:30 +0000

Awesome. It's sounding like I'm definitely a rebel (and proud to be a part of the group). I have some children's books in my head (they would be related, but certainly not making 50k), I have another fiction/chick lit/self-help book in my head that probably won't make it to 50k itself either. Lastly, the novel I was thinking about was following in the footsteps of the post-apocalyptic teen lit that I've been reading of late. I guess if I work on them all, I'll be a rebel! :-)

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Madyamisam — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 22:15:42 +0000

I wrote fanfiction a long time ago when I was younger and although I liked the basic plot premise I was not happy with the plot hole ridden content. Does doing a rewrite of the whole story make me a rebel? The main plot and the character back stories won't change just that it'll be rewritten with different content.

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fadingreverie — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 23:55:37 +0000

[Removed- Not a question about whether work is rebellion.]

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GatsbyGal — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 08:16:49 +0000

I've got 21k worth of story that I've been writing for the last two months and I need motivation to just get it done, and I think NaNo is going to help me to do that. I won't be counting my previous words toward the 50k challenge, though I know I'm still being a rebel. And halfway through the month when I finish this book, I'll be immediately beginning a new story from scratch. I feel a little guilty about wanting to claim that I "won" at the end of the month...is it okay if I do that or will people be giving me the stinkeye behind my back?

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neilquadros — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 08:45:33 +0000

So then you can't empty your diary into a novel? What if I did? Already through with about 2.4K words. . . what do you think? Should I restructure the rest to seem like a work of fiction, or should I continue writing. I want to write what's happened in life so as to capture it like a time capsule. Blogged about it here: http://wp.me/pouJD-cc So rebel or not? And if there are chances that I shouldn't be, then please do suggest any ideas to restructure the rest of my auto-biography

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RedFactories — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 11:45:30 +0000

[Removed- Not a question about whether work is rebellion.]

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Meia Pipa — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 20:45:25 +0000

I'm just wondering..... I've technically written 4 chapters, but as a fanfiction. I'm converting it to an original work (with some themes also changed) with all new characters and several different character traits. I know I'd be counted as a rebel if I copy and paste stuff, but what about if I just rewrote it? Every word is written in November, but the ideas were already there and mapped out.................. Am I rebel?

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Marauders Girl — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 21:45:20 +0000

You're not a rebel.

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Marauders Girl — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 21:47:22 +0000

Validation is your personal opinion if you're a rebel :) - no one will give you any trouble about it because it is -your- decision.

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Marauders Girl — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 21:48:38 +0000

Strictly pouring your diary into a novel without fictitious content makes you a rebel - if you do restructure it to include fiction and make it a sort've fictionalized memoir of types - that isn't rebellion. As to which way you should go - that's something only you can decide.

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Marauders Girl — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 21:50:22 +0000

No you're not a rebel if you totally rewrite.

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turquoisedawn — Thu, 03 Nov 2011 01:58:14 +0000

[Removed- Not a question about whether work is rebellion.]

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Dragonchilde — Thu, 03 Nov 2011 02:37:29 +0000

[quote=skywaters] I am continuing a novel I put down a few months ago. Can you confirm? Does this make me a rebel or not? [/quote] Yes, that is rebellion.

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Dragonchilde — Thu, 03 Nov 2011 02:37:47 +0000

[quote=craftmafia] Awesome. It's sounding like I'm definitely a rebel (and proud to be a part of the group). I have some children's books in my head (they would be related, but certainly not making 50k), I have another fiction/chick lit/self-help book in my head that probably won't make it to 50k itself either. Lastly, the novel I was thinking about was following in the footsteps of the post-apocalyptic teen lit that I've been reading of late. I guess if I work on them all, I'll be a rebel! :-) [/quote] Combining multiple works is rbellion, yes.

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Dragonchilde — Thu, 03 Nov 2011 02:38:20 +0000

[quote=Madyamisam] I wrote fanfiction a long time ago when I was younger and although I liked the basic plot premise I was not happy with the plot hole ridden content. Does doing a rewrite of the whole story make me a rebel? The main plot and the character back stories won't change just that it'll be rewritten with different content. [/quote] If you set aside the old work and do not refer to it, no, you're not rebelling. However, if it's a true rewrite (as in editing the old work) then it's rebellion.

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Dragonchilde — Thu, 03 Nov 2011 02:39:32 +0000

[quote=GatsbyGal] I've got 21k worth of story that I've been writing for the last two months and I need motivation to just get it done, and I think NaNo is going to help me to do that. I won't be counting my previous words toward the 50k challenge, though I know I'm still being a rebel. And halfway through the month when I finish this book, I'll be immediately beginning a new story from scratch. I feel a little guilty about wanting to claim that I "won" at the end of the month...is it okay if I do that or will people be giving me the stinkeye behind my back? [/quote] It's totally fine. Many rebels feel it's not ethical to claim you win if you didn't stick to the rules, others feel that they should claim a win if they win their own personal challenge. It's up to you.

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Dragonchilde — Thu, 03 Nov 2011 02:40:15 +0000

[quote=neilquadros] So then you can't empty your diary into a novel? What if I did? Already through with about 2.4K words. . . what do you think? Should I restructure the rest to seem like a work of fiction, or should I continue writing. I want to write what's happened in life so as to capture it like a time capsule. Blogged about it here: http://wp.me/pouJD-cc So rebel or not? And if there are chances that I shouldn't be, then please do suggest any ideas to restructure the rest of my auto-biography [/quote] If it's truly not fiction, then it's rebellion. The fact that you're continuing an existing work AND it's nonficiton means that you're rebelling.

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Dragonchilde — Thu, 03 Nov 2011 02:41:02 +0000

[quote=Meia Pipa] I'm just wondering..... I've technically written 4 chapters, but as a fanfiction. I'm converting it to an original work (with some themes also changed) with all new characters and several different character traits. I know I'd be counted as a rebel if I copy and paste stuff, but what about if I just rewrote it? Every word is written in November, but the ideas were already there and mapped out.................. Am I rebel? [/quote] Reusing ideas is fine, and not rebellion. Set aside the old work, and work from your head, and you're not rebelling at all. Not even close!

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wordcatching — Thu, 03 Nov 2011 02:50:17 +0000

love love love your pic.

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TurtleMama — Thu, 03 Nov 2011 06:12:50 +0000

I think that what I am doing would make me a rebel, but I wanted to check. I found out about NaNoWriMo on October 31 at 11:45 PM so I didn't have any time to prepare and I have never written anything "just because" it was always for assignments so I thought that I was going to do an autobiographical fiction novel, however tonight I realized that I didn't really want to continue what I had started. So I just set my fingers on the keyboard and typed whatever popped into my mind. What came out was a rather humorous short story, well at least I think it is humorous. If I continue on this way I will have a bunch of random writings from this experience. So because the writing is random and doesn't really fit together that would make it not conform, correct? Sorry this is so long, I tend to ramble when I am up too late!

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Cyrkael — Thu, 03 Nov 2011 11:21:45 +0000

If I am writing a sort of scenario that I will use to make a comic, am I a rebel ? ^_^

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bloodonmytypewriterkeys — Thu, 03 Nov 2011 12:21:20 +0000

I'm getting someone else to help write the sex scenes. But I'm not including those scenes in my word count. Rebel? I think so.

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Sampurnananda — Thu, 03 Nov 2011 14:26:48 +0000

It seems I am not a rebel. But for the sake of my clear conscience I would like to say that I am trying to put my name, my life situations, add a fictional spin on it and go on towards the goal of 50,000 and more. And I strongly feel I can call it a novel. And I basically write for my own enjoyment. I enjoy when I write and have pleasure when I re read it after some gap. And I am happy to notice that some other people too find it interesting sometime. So I look for some formal forums, which helps by acting as an inspiration and a means of reaching it to those few who like it. Huge thanks to NaNoWriMo for being one such forum.

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Marauders Girl — Thu, 03 Nov 2011 16:44:38 +0000

You're a rebel - welcome to the Rebellion!

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nathel_moonstone — Thu, 03 Nov 2011 17:12:40 +0000

I am confused to if I'm a rebel or not. I actually started writing earlier, just a little bit, but still. I'm not fond of the idea of scrapping this and rewriting it. Of course I wouldn't count those words. I'm told I'm not allowed any pre-written text, even if I don't count the words. However, the rules stated in this thread makes it sound like it is OK, just as long as you don't count them. Help!

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KateFatale — Thu, 03 Nov 2011 17:57:31 +0000

I've decided to finally finish a novel I started as a series of short pieces and excerpts in a fiction workshop/class a few years ago. Since I'm a first-year PhD student (living in a new country, no less), I know that the likelihood of me actually reaching that goal this month is pretty much nil, but I figured this would at least motivate me to devote a little bit of time to the novel every day. I'm using some of the pieces I've previously workshopped and throwing out others. As what I've previously written is in bits and pieces all over the place (some of them handwritten), I don't actually know the word count I'll be starting out with, but I'd put it at around only 10k, maybe less after I finish scrapping bits of it. I think I count as a rebel?

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c4larsen — Fri, 04 Nov 2011 01:40:05 +0000

I have Asperger's Syndrome and ADD. My brain is so nonlinear that I only started finishing fiction when I ceased to attempt linearity for more than three thousand words at a time. In 2008 I told myself that I was going to write 50,000 words for NaNo. I did. That month turned into an incredible trajectory and might be the single most helpful thing I've ever done for my fiction career. Sooo....I'm writing words. Novels will spawn from these words. If I am booted from NaNoWriMo, I'll treat it like Steve Jobs getting booted from Apple. (So who was the rebel?) Thanks for hosting my words. c.

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Dragonchilde — Fri, 04 Nov 2011 03:54:18 +0000

[quote=c4larsen] I have Asperger's Syndrome and ADD. My brain is so nonlinear that I only started finishing fiction when I ceased to attempt linearity for more than three thousand words at a time. In 2008 I told myself that I was going to write 50,000 words for NaNo. I did. That month turned into an incredible trajectory and might be the single most helpful thing I've ever done for my fiction career. Sooo....I'm writing words. Novels will spawn from these words. If I am booted from NaNoWriMo, I'll treat it like Steve Jobs getting booted from Apple. (So who was the rebel?) Thanks for hosting my words. c. [/quote] We don't ever boot people from NaNoWriMo. Well, unless they troll the forums or something. ;) It's hard to say if what you describe is rebellion or not, but if you think it is, we do too.

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Dragonchilde — Fri, 04 Nov 2011 03:54:51 +0000

[quote=KateFatale] I've decided to finally finish a novel I started as a series of short pieces and excerpts in a fiction workshop/class a few years ago. Since I'm a first-year PhD student (living in a new country, no less), I know that the likelihood of me actually reaching that goal this month is pretty much nil, but I figured this would at least motivate me to devote a little bit of time to the novel every day. I'm using some of the pieces I've previously workshopped and throwing out others. As what I've previously written is in bits and pieces all over the place (some of them handwritten), I don't actually know the word count I'll be starting out with, but I'd put it at around only 10k, maybe less after I finish scrapping bits of it. I think I count as a rebel? [/quote] Using any kind of previously written work is indeed rebellion.

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Dragonchilde — Fri, 04 Nov 2011 03:55:34 +0000

[quote=nathel_moonstone] I am confused to if I'm a rebel or not. I actually started writing earlier, just a little bit, but still. I'm not fond of the idea of scrapping this and rewriting it. Of course I wouldn't count those words. I'm told I'm not allowed any pre-written text, even if I don't count the words. However, the rules stated in this thread makes it sound like it is OK, just as long as you don't count them. Help! [/quote] No, using any preexisting work (continuing a work in progress) is against the rules, and is rebellion. Even if you don't count the previously written part. The rules are clear: It must be from scratch. Anything else is rebellion.

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Dragonchilde — Fri, 04 Nov 2011 03:57:43 +0000

[quote=bloodonmytypewriterkeys] I'm getting someone else to help write the sex scenes. But I'm not including those scenes in my word count. Rebel? I think so. [/quote] Can you get them to help in DEcember? If you just wait to write those scenes later, you're not rebelling.

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TabithaTodd_79 — Fri, 04 Nov 2011 06:31:44 +0000

I definitely belong here. I was a newbie back in 2009. Never did get past the first week with just too much on my plate (mom of 5 kids). I started the work then, didn't touch it until now and I started NaNo 2 days late. Since starting I've gone from writer's block to holy raging words streaming from my mind to finger tips to screen. I can't stop and really have no desire to do so. I'm honestly using NaNo for that kick in the rear end to finally finish what I started in 2009. Darn it, I'm going to finish what I started because that's just the way I roll.

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neilmsheldon — Fri, 04 Nov 2011 20:38:37 +0000

Would it be rebellion, or something worse than rebellion, to use 50k words, written within a consecutive period of 30 days (April 26th to May 25th), but not in November? I recorded the daily word counts, so I can put them in just as I wrote them.

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moonmomma — Fri, 04 Nov 2011 22:54:47 +0000

this doesn't sound like rebellion to me. it's two works, but they're closely related, and you aren't actually using material you've already written.

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moonmomma — Fri, 04 Nov 2011 22:57:33 +0000

do you mean you're writing kind of a background story to base the comic on? that would count as not-rebellion, I think.

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Marauders Girl — Sat, 05 Nov 2011 07:35:01 +0000

That is -definitely- rebellion lol.

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chaophim — Sat, 05 Nov 2011 11:13:32 +0000

I wrote a script for Script Frenzy (and won!), but the script didn't contain allll of the detail I wanted it to since you're not supposed to 'direct from the page'. As such, I want to do a novelization of the script, adding detail, inner-monologues, more dialogue, etc., and essentially 'fleshing out' the story into novel form. Since I am technically re-using 'previously written prose', but this prose is more like an outline/notes, am I a rebel?

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Hunty — Sat, 05 Nov 2011 16:18:05 +0000

I think I am too. I've heard of NaNoWriMo, but I get discouraged because of the great big 50k. I'm more of a fanfiction writer than anything else, but every so often I'll write something original, but then back out worrying about whether people will like it or not. :/ I'm too scared to show my work. That, if not being busy with work. I KNOW I WON'T make the 50k by 11/30 because the muse just comes and goes. So does that make me one?

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themournfulduck — Sat, 05 Nov 2011 17:31:15 +0000

I've done Nanowrimo 4 years and won, the proper way, but this year I won't have the time. I've never read a novel that is like what I'm writing, but I think that's because experimental stuff probably doesn't sell well or get published. Readers might find it disjoint, meandering, repetitive, unskilled. That's not really the point. It's still a novel in my mind, just a weird one. (Fantastic autobiography is how I'm listing the genre on my page, but so far it's really just a bunch of scenes based on my dreams that flow from one to the other and are loosely connected and probably develop over time.) The point is that I'm not aiming for 50,000 at all (which is the point of Nanowrimo.) I don't really give a damn what word-count I hit, and that seems inherently rebellious to me. I just want to spend a minimum of six hours a week doing thoughtful writing. I know that I could possibly hit 50,000 just writing for six hours per week, but only if I made word-count my goal, which it is not. I won't reach 50K and that's fine with me. I don't really have any problems with my pace. Therefore, everyone around me is writing in the True Frenzied Spirit of Nanowrimo and I'm just sort of chilling. I think at this point for me it's more important to set up a sustainable routine of daily writing (which I'd been having problems with) than write like crazy for a month (abandoning all of my school work) and just sort of only write every once in a while for the rest of the year until November again. During previous Novembers I picked up a pace which I could never hope to sustain once the month ended. I guess my question is similar to Hunty's. Am I a rebel, or am I just a sad person with no ambition?

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Gemma Knott — Sat, 05 Nov 2011 22:38:07 +0000

I'm a rebel. Oh well. :)

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Dragonchilde — Sun, 06 Nov 2011 01:49:57 +0000

[quote=themournfulduck] I've done Nanowrimo 4 years and won, the proper way, but this year I won't have the time. I've never read a novel that is like what I'm writing, but I think that's because experimental stuff probably doesn't sell well or get published. Readers might find it disjoint, meandering, repetitive, unskilled. That's not really the point. It's still a novel in my mind, just a weird one. (Fantastic autobiography is how I'm listing the genre on my page, but so far it's really just a bunch of scenes based on my dreams that flow from one to the other and are loosely connected and probably develop over time.) The point is that I'm not aiming for 50,000 at all (which is the point of Nanowrimo.) I don't really give a damn what word-count I hit, and that seems inherently rebellious to me. I just want to spend a minimum of six hours a week doing thoughtful writing. I know that I could possibly hit 50,000 just writing for six hours per week, but only if I made word-count my goal, which it is not. I won't reach 50K and that's fine with me. I don't really have any problems with my pace. Therefore, everyone around me is writing in the True Frenzied Spirit of Nanowrimo and I'm just sort of chilling. I think at this point for me it's more important to set up a sustainable routine of daily writing (which I'd been having problems with) than write like crazy for a month (abandoning all of my school work) and just sort of only write every once in a while for the rest of the year until November again. During previous Novembers I picked up a pace which I could never hope to sustain once the month ended. I guess my question is similar to Hunty's. Am I a rebel, or am I just a sad person with no ambition? [/quote] No, you're not a rebel. There's nothing in the rules about wanting to hit 50k or not.It's just that you don't win unless you do, make sense? If you write 30k, you've got a great thing going, but it's not enough to validate as a winner... but it's not rebellion. you just didn't win. :) The True Frenzied Spirit isn't required, or even necessarily expected. I don't think you're a rebel, just doing things at your own pace.

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Dragonchilde — Sun, 06 Nov 2011 01:50:40 +0000

[quote=Hunty] I think I am too. I've heard of NaNoWriMo, but I get discouraged because of the great big 50k. I'm more of a fanfiction writer than anything else, but every so often I'll write something original, but then back out worrying about whether people will like it or not. :/ I'm too scared to show my work. That, if not being busy with work. I KNOW I WON'T make the 50k by 11/30 because the muse just comes and goes. So does that make me one? [/quote] No, it doesn't. Not reaching 50k isn't rebellion, it's just not winning.

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Dragonchilde — Sun, 06 Nov 2011 01:51:12 +0000

[quote=chaophim] I wrote a script for Script Frenzy (and won!), but the script didn't contain allll of the detail I wanted it to since you're not supposed to 'direct from the page'. As such, I want to do a novelization of the script, adding detail, inner-monologues, more dialogue, etc., and essentially 'fleshing out' the story into novel form. Since I am technically re-using 'previously written prose', but this prose is more like an outline/notes, am I a rebel? [/quote] Novelizations of scripts are fine, as long as you aren't including any of the text you actually included in the script.

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Dragonchilde — Sun, 06 Nov 2011 01:52:22 +0000

[quote=neilmsheldon] Would it be rebellion, or something worse than rebellion, to use 50k words, written within a consecutive period of 30 days (April 26th to May 25th), but not in November? I recorded the daily word counts, so I can put them in just as I wrote them. [/quote] Definitely.To win NaNoWriMo, all words MUST be written in November. You've written 50k, and that's laudable, but you haven't done NaNoWriMo.

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chaophim — Sun, 06 Nov 2011 02:36:18 +0000

Does that include dialogue? LOL Much more speaking is being added to the text in novel form, but there were some funny jokes in the script and charged conversations that I want to include. I'm hand-duplicating and not copy-pasting, if that helps.

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crazybooklady81 — Sun, 06 Nov 2011 03:25:01 +0000

Wanting to write my laughs in my life & lessons learned - kinda like a self help book with laughs that come from my life. Rebel?

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Sun, 06 Nov 2011 16:28:43 +0000

Umm... I started a non-rebel story, but I got stuck and now I want to write a second, unrelated one, but instead of starting over from scratch, I want to add the two wordcounts together. Is this legal, even as a rebel? Could you NaNoMail me with the answer?

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Misty_Karen — Sun, 06 Nov 2011 16:30:05 +0000

I'm rewritting a story I write before. The plot is rather different from the original, and I'm not going to refer to the original story as I write, but the idea has been in my head for a long while. I re-outlined the story to fit the new plot on the first day of the NaNo. Am I a rebel~? I don't mind either way; just curious.

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Dragonchilde — Sun, 06 Nov 2011 20:14:22 +0000

[quote=chaophim] Does that include dialogue? LOL Much more speaking is being added to the text in novel form, but there were some funny jokes in the script and charged conversations that I want to include. I'm hand-duplicating and not copy-pasting, if that helps. [/quote] If you're referring to it, yes, that's rebellion. It doesn't matter if you're not copy and pasting. If you can remember them, you can add it from memory, but if you use existing text, that's continuing an existing work.

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Dragonchilde — Sun, 06 Nov 2011 20:14:31 +0000

[quote=crazybooklady81] Wanting to write my laughs in my life & lessons learned - kinda like a self help book with laughs that come from my life. Rebel? [/quote] Probably. It doesn't sound like fiction!

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Dragonchilde — Sun, 06 Nov 2011 20:15:49 +0000

[quote=H] Umm... I started a non-rebel story, but I got stuck and now I want to write a second, unrelated one, but instead of starting over from scratch, I want to add the two wordcounts together. Is this legal, even as a rebel? Could you NaNoMail me with the answer? [/quote] There's no "legal" or "illegal" - this is an on your honor challenge, and there are no rules police who will throw you in rules jail. What you're talking about is absolute rebellion. The point is to write a novel, not just combine words to get 50k. Combining more than one work to get the word count would be reblling.

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Dragonchilde — Sun, 06 Nov 2011 20:16:05 +0000

[quote=Misty_Karen] I'm rewritting a story I write before. The plot is rather different from the original, and I'm not going to refer to the original story as I write, but the idea has been in my head for a long while. I re-outlined the story to fit the new plot on the first day of the NaNo. Am I a rebel~? I don't mind either way; just curious. [/quote] No, you're not. Reusing old ideas from scratch is just fine.

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Malna — Mon, 07 Nov 2011 19:49:35 +0000

I was wondering what exactly can count as a common theme for short stories. Namely, I'm thinking of ditching my current novel in favour of writing a series of historical short stories. Is it enough of a common theme if they all take place in historical time periods (probably 18th & 19th centuries)? Or how about stories set in the history of my country, Finland (rather than all over the world)? Or should it be yet more precise than that, like stories set around a particular event/in a particular place/within a more limited time period/among particular type of people (women, children, actors, social castouts, whathaveyou)/something even more restrictive?

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ProperPunctuation — Mon, 07 Nov 2011 20:17:46 +0000

I have a tendancy to lots of quotings in my novel-from simple scentences to entire song lyrics. I often copy and paste these. Am I a rebel?

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shadowpaw — Mon, 07 Nov 2011 20:46:51 +0000

I did NaNo last year. I was completely dissatisfied with my characters. They were absolutely flat and the details of the plot were... Well, the whole thing was pretty much crap. I've spent the last year developing back stories on each of my main characters, focusing on where they came from, their experiences, how they see the world. I've also done a lot of research and elaborated my plot outline greatly. This year I am working on the second draft. Everything I am writing, starting with word one is fresh and new. But I am referencing the notes I've accumulated over the past year. In essence, they are not locked in a drawer, but hung on the wall where I can see them easily. Does that make me a rebel or a boyscout? ;)

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BlushingRose — Mon, 07 Nov 2011 22:34:55 +0000

A week in, and I've decided that I suit writing short stories much better than a full blown novel. I'm aiming to do lots of different genres and styles and use lots of different prompts from life and the interweb? Am I officially a rebel? I'm staying on NaNo and using it as a way to make myself write 50,000 words' worth of short stories. Will I still be able to get it validated?

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Jaguwar — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 13:57:47 +0000

LOL the very first line of my novel is "This is a true story" (which is not the same as "this story is true" or "This story is based on real-life events") Can you find the difference? Anyway, I think I had a moment of rebellion, but it *is* fiction. (replace the word "story" with "work of art" and you'll perhaps see what I did there.) I just had to share that. Wheeee! We're having fun now! :)

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Marauders Girl — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 19:14:03 +0000

[removed for not knowing as much as the amazing Dragonchilde]

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Marauders Girl — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 19:14:51 +0000

Nope - you're not a rebel :) Using old plot/ideas doesn't make you one as long as you use all new words :)

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shadowpaw — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 20:16:14 +0000

Thanks for the official call! ;)

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moonmomma — Wed, 09 Nov 2011 03:38:23 +0000

No one has answered this, so I'll give it a try. The saying here is, "if you think it's fiction, then so do we." I think this can also be, "If you think your stories are related, then they are." Maybe just taking place in the same century isn't related enough, but I think a collection of stories set in the history of your country would be an awesome idea :-) Maybe it can even have members of the same family through the years, showing how the different periods and events of history affect them as individuals and also the family's history.

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Dragonchilde — Wed, 09 Nov 2011 04:41:18 +0000

[quote=BlushingRose] A week in, and I've decided that I suit writing short stories much better than a full blown novel. I'm aiming to do lots of different genres and styles and use lots of different prompts from life and the interweb? Am I officially a rebel? I'm staying on NaNo and using it as a way to make myself write 50,000 words' worth of short stories. Will I still be able to get it validated? [/quote] From the very first post in this thread: I'm writing a collection of short stories. Am I a rebel? Probably not. There's no actual rule on this one. We define a novel as "a lengthy work of fiction." However, we the moderators feel that since you find short story collections on the shelves alongside longer works of fiction, if they're related, they count. They need to have some common theme, or linking thread that weaves them together that makes them a single, "lengthy work of fiction." Which leads us to the next: I'm writing a series of unrelated essays/short stories/vignettes. Am I a rebel? Probably. Again, there's no official rule on this one, but if you're just combining unrelated work to get the 50k, it's probably not a novel.

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Dragonchilde — Wed, 09 Nov 2011 04:42:30 +0000

[quote=ProperPunctuation] I have a tendancy to lots of quotings in my novel-from simple scentences to entire song lyrics. I often copy and paste these. Am I a rebel? [/quote] Nope. Check out this thread in the rules forum.

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Dragonchilde — Wed, 09 Nov 2011 04:43:14 +0000

[quote=Malna] I was wondering what exactly can count as a common theme for short stories. Namely, I'm thinking of ditching my current novel in favour of writing a series of historical short stories. Is it enough of a common theme if they all take place in historical time periods (probably 18th & 19th centuries)? Or how about stories set in the history of my country, Finland (rather than all over the world)? Or should it be yet more precise than that, like stories set around a particular event/in a particular place/within a more limited time period/among particular type of people (women, children, actors, social castouts, whathaveyou)/something even more restrictive? [/quote] We really don't get that specific. We don't have any actual rules about short stories, so it's entirely up to you if you think it's a novel or not.

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KarenShapiroMiller — Wed, 09 Nov 2011 14:00:26 +0000

I'm rewriting a classic Victorian novel as SF, so i'm basing my work on someone else's. The main character in my book is a minor character in origina, so much will be different. I do plan to reuse some of the dialog from the original book, but, for example, in my version, one of the characters whose dialog I want to reuse has her mind taken over by another character in my version, (but not of course in the original), so even though some of the dialog will be same, the feel and the meaning should be completely different. So, does this count as rebellion?

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Wolf Queen's Phantom — Wed, 09 Nov 2011 18:21:11 +0000

I was looking for this for quite a while. I feel better now that I found this and glad to be part of the rebels. Now I am competing.

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a0x808080 — Wed, 09 Nov 2011 18:31:54 +0000

I'm pretty sure I'm a rebel. I'm taking characters and plots from last years novel and trying to turn it into a graphic novel. While there are sections that are actual storyline, the majority of it is stream of consciousness plotting and clarifying of those plots, working through potential plot holes and how to best plug them for dramatic effect. Its been really helpful and spawned some interesting ideas to use later in the story.

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Dragonchilde — Wed, 09 Nov 2011 18:52:11 +0000

[quote=KarenShapiroMiller] I'm rewriting a classic Victorian novel as SF, so i'm basing my work on someone else's. The main character in my book is a minor character in origina, so much will be different. I do plan to reuse some of the dialog from the original book, but, for example, in my version, one of the characters whose dialog I want to reuse has her mind taken over by another character in my version, (but not of course in the original), so even though some of the dialog will be same, the feel and the meaning should be completely different. So, does this count as rebellion? [/quote] Not really, no; We do allow quoting by the book. How much is up to you. Is it possible for you to write your own dialogue now, and come back and add the original stuff after November? Either way, I think it's okay. I've always felt, though, that if you quote, you should at least write that many original words. AFter all, if you didn't write them... There's no official limit on how much quoting is okay. It's up to you.

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Dragonchilde — Wed, 09 Nov 2011 18:52:45 +0000

[quote=a0x808080] I'm pretty sure I'm a rebel. I'm taking characters and plots from last years novel and trying to turn it into a graphic novel. While there are sections that are actual storyline, the majority of it is stream of consciousness plotting and clarifying of those plots, working through potential plot holes and how to best plug them for dramatic effect. Its been really helpful and spawned some interesting ideas to use later in the story. [/quote] Yes, graphic novels are rebels. There's a thread for them down below. :)

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Dragonchilde — Wed, 09 Nov 2011 18:53:06 +0000

[quote=Wolf Queen's Phantom] I was looking for this for quite a while. I feel better now that I found this and glad to be part of the rebels. Now I am competing. [/quote] This thread is for asking if you're a rebel. :) You can introduce yourself in the Welcome thread.

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uncipherthis — Sun, 13 Nov 2011 11:55:38 +0000

I'm not sure but I think I'm joining the rebellion. Can anyone tell me if I'm a rebel? My Nano didn't even have much of a plot to begin with. The place where it's set in is a world where anything goes but that world itself was broken. The "plot" that was supposed to help "fix" the world never showed up, the "thread" that was supposed to connect the fragments I think got lost and the "novel" somehow managed to get hijacked by fragments and become even More broken and Still fell apart and now it feels like it's a whole lot of fragments that might not be connected; I can't seem to incorporate them all into the pretend story -- or I am/will Somehow figure out how, but right now it doesn't feel or seem like it -- and I think I have a bunch of random floating dialogue or voices in the air that seem to resist being connected or developed into scenes. >.< I think it's going towards incoherent. I think _I'm_ going towards incoherent. I guess I could say the narrator got infected but it feels like narrator (and writer/me) got much more infected than I intended (wonder if this is any or much due to the story being told in first person perspective, but I'm not sure).* Kind of getting depressed at this (stupid, I know) and for a while I was just happy to be writing again too, when I wasn't getting stuck or completely blanked by writer's block and completely unable to write Anything (random and/or fitting into the story or not), that is. -_- Am I a rebel and should I just join the rebellion? I heard there were cookies.

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chimeracandor — Mon, 14 Nov 2011 00:10:07 +0000

I'm writing a poem for NaNoWriMo 50,000 words long if possible. I should have at least 30 different plot changes and i'm refusing to break it into smaller poems. It might be fiction but only in that the autobiographical nature is sometimes overtaken by ideas of talking with selkies and learning things from trees. I'd say it's probably more fantastical word choices than fiction is this rebellion and if it's not what forum do i go to? thanks for helping.

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kaileydw — Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:42:56 +0000

I'm thinking about becoming a rebel. Even thought my novel is coming along swimmingly, I haven't even begun to work on my 15 page research paper. If I start writing that and combine that word count to my NaNo, is that allowed, even in Rebel Land?

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Marauders Girl — Tue, 15 Nov 2011 02:33:00 +0000

It's a lengthy work of fiction even if it's a non-coherent one. This doesn't sound like rebellion - but I'll give you some of our cookies (and fudge from my regions local NOWD tonight) just for stopping by ;) :D

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Marauders Girl — Tue, 15 Nov 2011 02:33:52 +0000

You can do anything in rebel land lol We're very welcoming here :)

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Jacks_reg — Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:42:54 +0000

I'm definitely a rebel. I using this years challenge to story edit the book I finished in last years Nano. There is something about that word count and graph that makes it so much easier to edit. :D

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lupus amans — Fri, 18 Nov 2011 03:08:40 +0000

I guess I'm a rebel then. I actually started on October 31, I was to excited to do the writing that i just started before. is that ok? do I still get to be a winner?- Lupus Amans

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lupus amans — Fri, 18 Nov 2011 03:10:35 +0000

I love rebelling! that's why my hair is blue and I LOVE The Hunger Games!!!

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Dragonchilde — Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:40:51 +0000

[quote=lupus amans] I guess I'm a rebel then. I actually started on October 31, I was to excited to do the writing that i just started before. is that ok? do I still get to be a winner?- Lupus Amans [/quote] Yes, as I explain in the first post, Rebels are totally welcome. :) I'd say starting on October 31 just makes you a little bit rebellious. :) It's just one day!

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AthenaAngel — Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:48:30 +0000

20 years ago I spent over 2 years in the Peace Corps in Central America. My novel is a fictionalized version of the events of that time. I have all the letters I ever wrote to family and am using them as background material. I do quote some of the letters in the novel. Am I a rebel?

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otismom — Sat, 19 Nov 2011 21:09:32 +0000

Adapting a work from one form to another (script to novel and treating the script as an outline as you can't write details, prose, etc. in a script.) Mostly likely a rebel. Not a bad thing, but would like to know for sure. Confirmation?

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Only1TheLadyWrites — Sun, 20 Nov 2011 01:51:11 +0000

I started off NaNo w/ a new novel but it's stalling b/c I'm seeing it in chunks but the next book in line to be written/released (I have one being released on Dec. 1) is pouring from me like water. That was started before Nov.1 To date I have 12005 words in the NaNo original I have added 14k - ish to Book 2 (the next in the series to come out) and worked on a short that needs revised, reworked and released w/ book 1 on Dec 1.... I'm pretty sure that w/ all the writing during Nov. I'm a rebel, but I think book 2 is going to end up being my focus over the original one planned/worked for NaNo - although I like where it's going, it's just going there VERY slowly.

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Liz Hill — Sun, 20 Nov 2011 18:08:08 +0000

I've decided I'm a rebel. I wrote my 'novel' last year from scratch = 50,500 words - it's was great BUT it didn't gel. So during the run up to Nano this year whilst thinking about what to do out of my never ending pile of ideas I woke one morning with the answer to how/why my last years novel went wrong and a few ahh's ho's and so that's it's later had the whole plot/beginning/ending formulated. It meant writing the whole thing from scratch as characters changed level of importance/storyline, the murderer changed, the reasoning behind the disappearance of my main character changed and I suddenly 'knew her'. So i have 'abandoned' Nano this year as i need to 'write' this not explore it. So... thank you gratefully Nano as without you who knows!!

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Marauders Girl — Tue, 22 Nov 2011 04:14:17 +0000

If it's fictionalized you aren't considered a rebel :) how much fiction is fictionalized? That my friend is up to you.

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Marauders Girl — Tue, 22 Nov 2011 04:15:28 +0000

It depends on how literally you're adapting it. If you -just- use the script as an outline you're not a rebel. But say you take dialogue from the script and put that into your novel, because it's prewritten -that- makes you a rebel.

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John-Drover — Tue, 22 Nov 2011 15:05:23 +0000

In my case the novel was begun twenty-five years ago, started up in the language of crap, and was pretty soon shelved indefinitely. So what I needed from Nano was the kick up the ass to get me back on the keyboard. And it worked! I've written 30,000 words from scratch, and given myself a whole new framework for the old novel, which I've rewritten accordingly. And suddenly it all makes sense. The story arcs and the characters all hang together - and the characters write their own journey as they travel through the landscape. The landscape hasn't changed a lot in twenty-five years, but the characters have. I'm breaking every rule in the book, and am definitely a REBEL in big block caps. But the novel is being written, and it's been a really worthwhile exercise. So whatever the Nano rules are, I can only advise everybody to Release Your Inner Rebel! I thank you, because I'd never have done it without you ...

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SJNorstrom — Tue, 22 Nov 2011 15:20:42 +0000

I feel so much better now that I fall into the category of Rebel than Traditionalist. Even at time when I'm not trying to be, I tend to swim against the stream (and at times, much to my wife's chagrin). I was tasked with writing a screenplay, as well as my book. I also completed a few short stories which were graciously accepted by a literary magazine. And they are all make-believe words. After a few days of frustration not thinking I was going to make my goal, I am renewed with a drive to achieve the cross the fictional cross line. Huzzah!

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ThornGenX — Fri, 25 Nov 2011 10:29:38 +0000

I am writing my autobiography again. I won doing this a few years ago. I call it a reboot though many of the events I write about will be the same since I am the same person. If I am not the same person, I have a lot more on my plate than a nanowrimo I just started working on yesterday. Maybe speculation on the future can be the actual fiction included. Also I can change some names to protect the innocent and not so innocent.

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Michael S. Repton — Fri, 25 Nov 2011 16:59:09 +0000

So... a quick question. I know that combining the wordcounts from two unrelated novels is rebellion if NEITHER is 50K individually, but it's non-rebellion if BOTH are 50K individually. What if one is and one isn't? I'm at 13.5K on my second novel and feeling a bit edgy about whether I can make it to 50K on time....

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Dragonchilde — Sat, 26 Nov 2011 18:07:03 +0000

[quote=ThornGenX] I am writing my autobiography again. I won doing this a few years ago. I call it a reboot though many of the events I write about will be the same since I am the same person. If I am not the same person, I have a lot more on my plate than a nanowrimo I just started working on yesterday. Maybe speculation on the future can be the actual fiction included. Also I can change some names to protect the innocent and not so innocent. [/quote] This isn't really a thread for announcing your rebellion. :) It's for asking if you ARE a rebel.

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Dragonchilde — Sat, 26 Nov 2011 18:08:01 +0000

[quote=Michael S. Repton] So... a quick question. I know that combining the wordcounts from two unrelated novels is rebellion if NEITHER is 50K individually, but it's non-rebellion if BOTH are 50K individually. What if one is and one isn't? I'm at 13.5K on my second novel and feeling a bit edgy about whether I can make it to 50K on time.... [/quote] No, it's not. Many of our overacheivers write more than one novel; once you've reached 50k on one novel, you're not a rebel anymore, and you can include whatever you like in your word count. :)

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Michael S. Repton — Sat, 26 Nov 2011 21:11:00 +0000

Thanks :) That's something of a relief, though I'm going to try to reach 50K anyway (I need to have a target, or the last four days will just be no fun). But... I can include "whatever I like"? I've also written some additional chapters to a fanfic I started before November; can I now include those as well?

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meredithjunior — Sat, 26 Nov 2011 22:41:50 +0000

Hi guys! I'm a bit late to the party, but I want to know if I'm a rebel. I gave up on a plot a while ago, but since I really like my characters I've made this NaNo a really long characterization exercise. There's sort of a connecting thread, but I wouldn't really call it a story. Ideas?

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deppfreako — Sun, 27 Nov 2011 06:08:50 +0000

Not sure about this one at all, but my novel is based on a true story. The key word is based. It's about my brother-in-law going to prison, but beyond that, I'm filling in the rest with my own spin on it. Am I a rebel, or not?

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Dragonchilde — Sun, 27 Nov 2011 18:21:01 +0000

[quote=deppfreako] Not sure about this one at all, but my novel is based on a true story. The key word is based. It's about my brother-in-law going to prison, but beyond that, I'm filling in the rest with my own spin on it. Am I a rebel, or not? [/quote] Sounds like fiction to me... not rebellion. :) Basing something on a true story doesn't make it not a novel... heck, the bookstore's shelves are full of novels based on a true story.

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Dragonchilde — Sun, 27 Nov 2011 18:21:21 +0000

[quote=meredithjunior] Hi guys! I'm a bit late to the party, but I want to know if I'm a rebel. I gave up on a plot a while ago, but since I really like my characters I've made this NaNo a really long characterization exercise. There's sort of a connecting thread, but I wouldn't really call it a story. Ideas? [/quote] If you don't think it's a story, then it's probably not a novel, and probably rebellion.

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Dragonchilde — Sun, 27 Nov 2011 18:22:01 +0000

[quote=Michael S. Repton] Thanks :) That's something of a relief, though I'm going to try to reach 50K anyway (I need to have a target, or the last four days will just be no fun). But... I can include "whatever I like"? I've also written some additional chapters to a fanfic I started before November; can I now include those as well? [/quote] You've officially won. You can add anything you want to it.

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Shinzu — Tue, 29 Nov 2011 05:40:15 +0000

I already know- next year, I'm going to be a rebel. XD I'm continuing this year's story (my word count lies, I lost almost 10,000 words in a computer crash, so I have 19,000) next year. But still, I have a question. It's still being a rebel either way- continuing with a fresh, new 50,000 from the 19,000 I have and just continuing from where I left off, keeping word count and all?

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Dragonchilde — Tue, 29 Nov 2011 18:38:44 +0000

[quote=Shinzu] I already know- next year, I'm going to be a rebel. XD I'm continuing this year's story (my word count lies, I lost almost 10,000 words in a computer crash, so I have 19,000) next year. But still, I have a question. It's still being a rebel either way- continuing with a fresh, new 50,000 from the 19,000 I have and just continuing from where I left off, keeping word count and all? [/quote] Continuing an existing work is indeed rebellion. Even if you write all 50k during November. :)

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FlatRose — Mon, 21 May 2012 15:34:36 +0100

For June Camp NaNo I'm considering rewriting my 2008 NaNo novel. I don't intend to copy and paste any of the text, just reuse the plot and characters. Am I a rebel?