How your fandom will butcher your book.

Itzika — Mon, 09 Jan 2012 12:36:25 -0500

There's a thread for how Hollywood will ruin your book for fans, so I thought, why not have a thread about how the fandom will ruin it for you? Saint Nicky is the one I'm really dreading, because if it ever gets a fandom (or especially if it gets a hatedom) there will be people pairing up Nicky and her brother. If I'm lucky, they'll wait until her actual boyfriend is out of the picture to do so. O_O Orphean: they would make Will's love for Alicia be romantic rather than paternal. He's about five hundred years old and looks old enough to be her grandfather. He's a surrogate dad, NOT a romantic interest! But since they're the main characters... Other than squicky ships, in 99.5%, someone somewhere would have Olivia get an abortion or give up Rose for adoption. Look, it's not that she's not pro-choice, it's that she couldn't do that to her own baby. She was going to--but she balked. And Rose is kind of important to Olivia's character and the future stories in that universe. Lost Little Lions: Someone would make the Lioness sympathetic. She's not. She's ruthless, Machiavellian, and killed her cubs' families so she could adopt them. The most sympathetic thing about her is when she tells her cubs to move on when she thinks she's dying. ...Yeah, I work on a lot of stories at once. Two of those at least have a draft finished, though.

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golfgal08 — Mon, 09 Jan 2012 13:06:43 -0500

If the book(s) my friend and I are writing ever gets published and gets a fandom, I can only imagine the things fans will try to do. I'm not sure it would "ruin" it for me, but they'd certainly be rather off base with characterizations, if they tried these things. --Slash Alex and Bobby; this just doesn't work on so many levels, though. Bobby works for Alex. That's the entire basis of their relationship. Plus, Alex is very happily married, and Bobby ends up very happily married. --Putting Alex and Katrina together; they are so not each others' type. They're rivals. Somewhat friendly rivals, but still rivals. And see above about Alex's happy marriage. Also, Katrina ends up with James, and they're very happy together, too. --Putting Bobby and Katrina together; dear God, no. Bobby's half terrified of the woman. On a professional level. Really. --More minor slash pairings (John/Alex, Paul/Alex, Bobby/Mark, Bobby/Harry, maybe something crazy like Alex/Fletch) --Putting Will and Melissa together; this one would just be amusing to see, because he's half in love with her, and she knows it, but she's very happy with her girlfriend. (She's invited him along for a threesome, though...) Kind of going in the opposite direction, but I think it would be fantastic to see a story where Bobby decided to stay in the Navy and took command of Resolute instead of running off to play politics. It would change so much about how things play out in the second half of the war, and if done well, could be absolutely fascinating to read.

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Darkfeather21 — Mon, 09 Jan 2012 14:56:42 -0500

I saw this and thought 'Elijah and Zhan.' I immediatly facepalmed and tried to walk away. Elijah is one of my MMCs, and he's in love with my FMC, Hannah. Zhan is my other MMC and is also in love with Hannah. My next thought was Hannah and Chef Vlad. I tried to sprint from that one. Vlad is a fifty year old Transylvainian chef. Hannah is an eighteen year old cyborg. Ain't gonna happen. Finally, Zhan and Jimmy. Jimmy never even meets Zhan!

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Angryman — Mon, 09 Jan 2012 15:38:08 -0500

...Dear gods! It's going to be Team She and Team Desiree! Also, despite the fact that I clearly say who is going to be with whom, the fans will have some seriously screwed up hook-ups going on. I know I got the MMC with both of the FMCs, but that's that. He's not going to get another girl, neither of the girls are going to get another guy, he's got the girls and doesn't need any guys, and the girls got each other and don't need any other girls. I don't know what else I can say to cover anything else, so hopefully I've covered everything.

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DeathOfScythes — Mon, 09 Jan 2012 16:49:32 -0500

The two obvious parings (the two main males in the story, and the MC/ghost) are to be expected, bromance turning into romance in the lonely world, and even though the entire point of the human/ghost relationship is that it can't devolve into touching fandom finds a way. Stripping heterosexuality or un-dooming doomed relationships is normal though. should more exotic pairings such as Fairy king/the 60 year old post-menopausal Linda or The Unicorn/anything happen, I'l go from disgusted to proud of the fan community. If there's enough of a fanfiction base for every possible pairing to happen I think I have it made as an author.

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harrypoter4ever — Mon, 09 Jan 2012 17:23:39 -0500

Pairing Falyn with Aren: Uh, no. Aren ends up working for the main bad guy who wants to kill Falyn. So, uh, NO. Pairing Kieran with Shadow: Possibly, but no. They;re not each others types. Kieran has mixed feelings about him.

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Spuggey — Wed, 11 Jan 2012 07:41:25 -0500

Oh dear lord... The main characters would all get paired up despite the fact there's NOTHING like that in the novels. The inevitable ones: Saskia and Emilio, Jasira and Ramiro. These two pairings are both FRIENDSHIPS. There's nothing there, but people would inevitably make it so. Also, some of the characters would inevitably have squealing fan-girls... Probably Ciro and Zero. People would try to read romance/sex into things where it isn't, which would annoy me immensely!

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golfgal08 — Wed, 11 Jan 2012 08:43:53 -0500

And then one of my friends went and suggested Bobby/Alex/Katrina, and I crawled into a hole to cry.

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MissAngelAdorer — Wed, 11 Jan 2012 12:22:25 -0500

Oh God, it would be terrible! For starters, they'd ship Caleb/Scarlett, which I shot down in the text. If I comfirmed Scarlett's sexualtiy (I'm leaning towards lesbian or asexual) there'd be tons of her with an OC. And then they'd write shipping fic for the canon pairing Caleb/Eloise (complete wiht some horrid name for it) with them out of character as an excuse for the mushy stuff. Maybe Scarlett/Eloise. Or worse: Eloise/OC, Caleb/OC. And I can just imagine how much they'd ignore my fantasy world of E.L.M. and just write in the backround of the story—their lives in high school. Plus, with all the other characters I made, I wonder how few would actually get used. Hmm . . . In Harry Potter fandom, Severus Snape has a lot of fans. Wonder if Mr. Moss, a similar sort of character, only more sympathetic, would be popular too? Probably. And don't get me started on trying to write out of character slash or incest ships. I'd like to imagine a fandom for me would be sane, but . . . with my fandom experience, not a chance in hell. But that was fun to think of.

Re: How your fandom will butcher your book.

Itzika — Wed, 11 Jan 2012 12:47:21 -0500

Just so you know, your canon pairing will be called Caloise. If you're lucky. If not, they'll come up with something much, much worse.

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MissAngelAdorer — Wed, 11 Jan 2012 14:36:34 -0500

That's definitely better than what I was thinking of. But yeah—the real deal would probably be worse. Ah, fandom . . .

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Itzika — Wed, 11 Jan 2012 15:08:56 -0500

Hey, you're from Ohio! Sorry, just noticed that. Hi, fellow Ohioan! Well, your book has a female main character and is YA. So unfortunately, you're probably going to get a lot of tween fangirls who are still solidifying their grasp on the English language, if they haven't given up already, and the pairing name will be horrendous. Although if I were you, I'd be worried about the people who write AUs where Eloise stays in Planet E.L.M. because they've learned from Twilight that anything is better than being a normal human forever.

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MissAngelAdorer — Wed, 11 Jan 2012 17:37:59 -0500

Hi, fellow Ohioan! Good point about AUs. Makes me want to write a series of what- ifs for the novel in style of a fanfction. That sounds fun.

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golfgal08 — Wed, 11 Jan 2012 21:20:19 -0500

I do the AU thing all the time. It's great for character development. That's essentially how I figured out Bobby was interested in politics, and he went from having his Naval career crash and burn to retiring and ending up as president.

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Cavaliere Errante — Wed, 11 Jan 2012 21:51:01 -0500

I would have so much fun reading fanfics if my book ever got popular enough to warrant it's own fandom. I would spend way too much time giggling to myself over all the nutty stuff fans could possibly come up with. So far I'd imagine they would: - Rosaire-Linc pairings. This would amuse me to no end, they are half-brothers who despise one another's existence. Which, based on my brief excursions into the world of fanfiction, seems to be the perfect chemistry for brothercest. I just would hope that fans would realize that Rosaire would, without a doubt in my mind, be the more dominant of the pair. And their relationship would be very abusive and violent. - Hadrian-Linc pairings. This one would just gross me out because Hadrian is Linc's father. But I could actually see someone pairing them together because Hadrian is a might-bit obsessed with his son. Hadrian had an affair with Linc's mother, he actually loved her, and Linc is her spitting image. But he is not sexually obsessed with his son, but I could see a few fans taking it to be sexual obsession. - Linc-Julia pairing that actually works out. Canon Linc-Julia ends badly for poor Julia, because she pours her heart and soul into loving Linc, who due to an annoyingly meddlesome god, is unable to love her back. He cares for her very deeply but, alas, he is legitimately unable to love anyone. Their sort-of-relationship goes sour real quick. - Linc-Morgan pairings. Because... well, Morgan is a wicked awesome pirate chick and Linc is the mmc, so... I think there's like some divine law about these kinds of things. - Morgan-Ransom pairings. Again, there must be some kind of divine law about this too, Morgan is a pirate queen, Ransom is a rapscallion king. It only seems fitting that the rulers of the underground crime empire would be hot for one another. Even though... ya know, Morgan and Ransom have never once met face to face, never will meet face to face, and would be obligated to fight to the death if they were to meet face to face. - Morgan-Julia pairings. Pirate queen, cute little innocent niece of the queen. It's totally meant to be, right? - Linc-patron god pairings. This one actually could potentially be slightly legitimate. Linc's patron god never gives a good reason as to why exactly he chose to meddle with Linc's life or why he's so obsessed with this particular mortal. It would stand to reason that perhaps he is sexually attracted to Linc. But... well, Linc can only hear him, he can't see him much less touch him. And their relationship would be a total love-hate thing, and probably unwilling on Linc's behalf. He is not nearly as fond of his patron god as his god is fond of him. - And other ridiculous pairings that would just make me giggle. Like Linc-Morgan-Julia threesome. Linc-Morgan-Ransom threesome. Ransom-Rosaire pairing. Ransom-Rosaire-Linc threesome. Rosaire-Morgan-Julia threesome. Rosaire-Linc-Morgan threesome, Linc-Ransom pairing, and a dozen more. - I'm sure someone would be upset that Hadrian and Linc never got a cutesy father-son-redemption scene or something like that. Linc ends up murdering his father and his half brother for political reasons and... well, Linc never has a proper father-son moment with his father and he never quite forgives Hadrian for not acknowledging him for the first fifteen years of his life and then suddenly, right when Linc is starting to look like a son a king would be proud to have even if he is a bastard, decide that he wants to claim him. Someone would probably write them a nice forgiveness scene or something. - Pre-Linc Era stories. Most likely centering around the love affair between Hadrian and Linc's mother, Margery, before she gave birth to Linc and subsequently died. Which would actually be kind of cute, because even though Hadrian is a major psychotic jerk, he truly did love Margery and was driven mad by her death. In fact, that might be something amusing for me to write about. Hmmm. - Corrianna-Elias pairing that actually doesn't make Elias seem like the world's biggest ass. Since, ya know, he kind of forced Cori into a marriage she never wanted. In fact, poor Cori was on her way to a different country to denounce any royal titles or claims and pledge herself to a Temple of Knowledge to live out her days studying and reading, only to be brutally kidnapped and forced into a marriage she never agreed to. Either someone will have Elias find another way to claim the throne and set Cori free, or they'll make Cori find love with Elias instead of cold friendship. Which would make me giggle, Elias is a terrible man but he's a great king, and for that reason alone Cori doesn't hate him. Their relationship is just plain weird. - Linc's children, Hadrian's other bastard children, Gemma and James's son Nathan growing up, and all sorts of other original characters thrown into the mix. And... well that's all I can think of for right now. My book is kind of screwy already so... in my humble opinion, my fans would have a lot of fun and a lot of opportunity for first-class butchery.

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Angryman — Thu, 12 Jan 2012 02:35:31 -0500

I just thought of a pairing that everyone will want, but no! Technically, this is my sister's story, but I have characters in there, darn it! Tempe and Nico are NOT going to hook up, okay? They are completely unrelated, but they have the same brother (please don't ask how that works, it's a bit of an explanation. And no, there were no parents being unfaithful to their spouse)!

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Itzika — Thu, 12 Jan 2012 04:58:41 -0500

I have to warn you, fandom has managed to make InuSesst, if not quite fluffy, at least loving from Sesshomaru's end. (InuYasha never forgave him in the one I read, though.) And wincest is almost invariably portrayed as not screwed up, despite the fact that Sam and Dean have the most dysfunctional relationship possible even when they're just brothers, let alone if they ever tried a romantic/sexual relationship. I could probably go on--I used to be into some WEIRD pairings. But just so you know... Yeah. Rosaire/Linc is going to be written as sweet and charming and an opportunity for the brothers to (literally) kiss and make up.

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queenoftheoutlands — Thu, 12 Jan 2012 14:51:21 -0500

To be honest, I like fandoms and wouldn't mind a lot of things they could come up with. In fact, I'd love to see what twisted pairings and fanfics they could dream up. I certainly wouldn't mind seeing Bramley/Wing and Wing/Morgan fic, as in my head it could work, were Morgan not evil and the canon love interests each of them has anyway. But... I would be kind of squicked out to see: Wing/Gray incest Wing/Amber incest Sandy/any of her kids incest I also wouldn't want: Morgan made into a rapist as well as a murderer People "redeeming" Morgan Draco-in-Leather-Pants-ing of Blackjack

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Enna-Isilee — Thu, 12 Jan 2012 17:59:50 -0500

I just know that people would see some kind of romantic relationship with Jem and Indigo, even though Indigo is HAPPILY engaged to Naomi and Jem will always be Miry's. But still. And I could also see Miry/Isaac, Jem/Isi, Indigo/Miry, and all sorts of other disturbing matches. EEGAD.

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Lady_Indis_Dress — Fri, 13 Jan 2012 13:44:31 -0500

Getting all the wrong people together would probably be the main thing. My stories are mostly about relationships so they lend themselves quite naturally to that kind of thing. Then I suppose there could be changing the characters completely to where my reserved MC becomes a party animal and the ladies all have ninja training. There would be major fangirl action over my compelling villains. Oh, and let's add some magic and maybe a few unicorns. Probably the worst thing though would be crossing my stories with others, like a DeFord Chronicles/Lord of the Rings/Narnia mash-up (all fine tales but let's not put them together) or Bridging The Gaps/Twilight (yeah, I can just see Melanie's heart throb becoming a vampire).

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Itzika — Fri, 13 Jan 2012 17:07:02 -0500

Oh yeah, I forgot--someone somewhere will cross Saint Nicky with Supernatural. Which I do myself in my head, but they'll use it as an excuse to butcher Nicky instead of an exploration of what a faithful Christian demon hunter would do when confronted with the Supernatural universe. Nicky will hook up with Sam or Dean, or worse, Cas (she would consider sex outside of marriage unchaste and against her morals if not a sin, and sex with an angel utter blasphemy). The Supernatural universe will slowly seep away her faith (which it wouldn't--she would take everything in stride while reminding everyone that the gifts God gave us include free will and attempting to restore Cas's faith), she will start using her powers for everything (which will somehow not kill her within a week), she'll go back to drinking because that's what the boys do (she's seven years sober and never going back, tyvm), and generally be turned into a Mary Sue. Not a Purity Sue, either, which is the only kind of Sue she remotely qualifies for.

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amaltheaa — Sat, 14 Jan 2012 14:29:50 -0500

Well, of course, they'd screw up all the pairings, as everyone tends to do. Most people would probably turn my FMC into a heinous bitch (which she kind of is at the beginning, but, eh, she changes) and replace her with an OC that is super pretty and smart and also the nicest person to ever exist and even Eldren, Heart of Ice and all that, would fall madly in love with this OC and her life would just be So Hard because she'd have to choose from All These Guys. (But I'm just being bitter because when I was 12 I was one of those fanfic writers too and god that is so embarrassing.) People might try and redeem my antagonist, because he's supposed to be mildly sympathetic but still ultimately "bad," so I'm positive some people will want to root for him too. Oh and they'd all skip over the fact that like a bunch of my characters are totally useless when it comes to physical fighting. And I mean that'd be cool if they'd write in the training, or have a big enough time skip between the end of my story and the start of theirs for the characters to develop the skills, but it probably wouldn't happen. Nerros would suddenly have like huge bulging muscles or s/t and he'd be ridiculously fit even though he's supposed to be like this really twig-like person? And all of the women would be much more capable than they actually are. I don't have anything against very capable women - I love them, even - but very few of my female characters have been trained physically, so while they all develop the skills required to survive throughout the course of my story, they can't like jump from tree to tree or impress like "the strongest man in the land" or whatever by lifting something heavy with ease. Nor do any of them have some amazing superpower that makes her the strongest being to ever walk the planet. I know when magic gets involved in stories, that tends to happen to the fan's favourite character. And probably a bunch of other stuff but idk this is what's coming up off the top of my head. No but seriously if I ever got a fandom I would write so much badfic for my own stories and get hated on so much by the fandom (or maybe loved who knows).

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Chestergirl28 — Sat, 14 Jan 2012 19:21:37 -0500

The Protector- The whole Bern-romance will get blown out of proportion and become the focus in fandom. The story is supposed to be about Bern and how the outside world is actually a huge challenge for her. Jacobe adoring her was just a fun bit I put in for the sake of having an endearing character. And then Seamus popped into my novel, but I think that's going to tie back to why Bern's afraid of the outside world. And Dustin... I think will end up learning a ton from Bern. But romance? No. No.

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Arlequin — Sat, 14 Jan 2012 20:30:29 -0500

My only fear is that my fandom would misinterpret my characters' motives. I don't mind if they come up with random 'ships or play around with the plot; it's when people make the characters wildly OOC that I get annoyed.

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beanza3 — Sun, 15 Jan 2012 00:01:41 -0500

Ray and Mathieu. O.o People will utterly destroy them. And will turn Adele and Daniel into the tru-love type, when they'e suposed to be very combative and nowhere close to fuctional! :D And Lia and Parker would be forced together (even though he's gay) and Avery would get a happy ending. I think it's obvious that my biggest worry is the relationships! >.< Oh! And Laurel will be turned into a total b*tch... :D

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mycatduncan — Sun, 15 Jan 2012 04:31:10 -0500

Fans: "QAWUIBUAHEO Lysander and Clarisse should've gotten together WHY DIDN'T THEY GET TOGETHER?!?!?!?!?" A: They're best friends. Not all relationships between guys and girls are romantic. Fans: "QAWUIBUAHEO Karol and Clarisse should've gotten together WHY DIDN'T THEY GET TOGETHER?!?!?!?!?" A: They're acquaintances. Not all relationships between guys and girls are romantic. Fans: "QAWUIBUAHEO Midian and Clarisse should've gotten together WHY DIDN'T THEY GET TOGETHER?!?!?!?!?" A: Dude, will you guys give it a rest? NOT ALL FMCs HAVE TO HAVE BOYFRIENDS! Fans: "*sob* WE HATE YOU!"

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Itzika — Sun, 15 Jan 2012 04:40:25 -0500

I am distracted by this alphabet soup at the beginning of your fan comments. Is this an acronym or random button-pressing?

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mycatduncan — Sun, 15 Jan 2012 07:28:23 -0500

Random button pressing that represents the annoyance of the fans that I wanted a MC who didn't fall in love. ^_^

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Itzika — Sun, 15 Jan 2012 09:37:28 -0500

Gotcha. It would be a very long acronym.

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the flipr kid — Sun, 15 Jan 2012 22:23:20 -0500

ALL THE RELATIONSHIPS. Ned/Cain slash. Ned/Andrea, or vice-versa (especially after Ned is a vampire). Ned/anyone, really. Dace/anyone -- especially Artemas! Gahh! Andrea/anyone but Cain. Nonononononononononononono. Please, fandom, if you have any love for the author...DON'T touch the relationships.

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Earthsick — Mon, 16 Jan 2012 01:43:59 -0500

Pairing everyone with everyone. Actually, I'd like to see that because lololol, Gavin/Sparrow is my headcanon. Never happens in the novel though since they both agree to have a manly man-friendship (not phrased like this but yeah ... also, major flirting with women). My writing group even suggested names for that 'main character' pairing: Garrow or Spavin. Someone pointed out that the first is the name of a character in Eragon which I find very funny since it doesn't really sound like a name to me, lololol. Since there are no 'real' romantic relationships in my novel (it's a freaking fantasy adventure, no time for love! lol), everything goes! I guess what would really ruin the whole thing would be ooc stuff like for example: Morgan (female bounty hunter!) being some kind of whiny princess. Sparrow being angsty all the time (he's an adventurer! why would he be angsty? plus, even Gavin points out that Sparrow is an excellent actor, even if he was angsty, he would never quite show it.) Zane killing everyone (he's an assassin, I give you that ... but he wouldn't run around like a madman) Gavin wearing robes or doing other cliché'd stuff. (he's like some kind of anti-mage: no pointy hat, no wand, no robes, no beard and he certainly doesn't play around with his magic) And so on.

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Angryman — Mon, 16 Jan 2012 03:17:24 -0500

Amen!

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Itzika — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 09:13:44 -0500

I'd be quite amused to see the pairings my hypothetical fandoms could come up with--until they went into incest territory or made canonically gay characters straight. I have enough history of gaying up straight characters that I can't talk if they do that, but straighting up gay characters? NO. Do not touch Aidan or Yvette's sexuality, kthxbai. You can split them up if you must, but do not make them straight. (I probably have more gay characters, but seeing as I don't have many relationships, those are the two who stand out.) Actually, there's one other pairing that would bother me--Eddie/Bela. I accidentally named those characters Edward (goes by Eddie) and Bela (not short for anything) and discovered they were platonic friends since kindergarten. They have never dated and will never date. Their names are a running joke between them and their friends. But some fan will pair them because THEIR NAMES MEAN THEY'RE DESTINED OMG!!! Especially if I let slip that I picture them as Jared Padalecki and Genevieve Cortese, who are married in real life. Or someone will pair them just as a joke. I could handle a fic about them trying it (Eddie wouldn't be averse to it, though Bela would) and it falling apart. I could not handle a fic where it actually worked out.

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Bee Vreeland — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 10:19:54 -0500

Well, pretty much anything that doesn't happen in real life... happening. But that would be pretty funny for me. Here I am, living this real life, and then... seeing how other people thinking everything ended up would be pretty funny. I would be most o_O over the following possibilities: -Melany does something OOC, like picks up and moves to California. (That's just a VAGUE dream for her. She's not going to do it.) -Paul comes back and he and Melany get married. Easy! -Petey and Melany kissing. Not gonna happen. -Cat fights between Mindy and Melany. -Gay couples involving straight characters. -Straight couples involving gay characters. -Someone throws in fantasy elements. Uh uh. -Time travel becomes involved. -Mindy/Paul Fitzgerald. No. They're like brother and sister. Same with Libby/Paul Fitzgerald. -Melany/Bud. Nope. Really gross. -Any character becomes a famous rockstar/movie star/reality star. No. Not happening. -Petey or Paul deciding not to be Catholic anymore, thus solving the main dilemma. OOC and besides, that would just suck. There are a lot of things that aren't likely to happen.

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the flipr kid — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 12:06:52 -0500

Just changing sexuality would bother me. Especially between Ned and Cain....if that were to happen I would break down in tears and wonder why I even bothered writing...okay, I wouldn't. But still.

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Red Queen — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 17:22:08 -0500

One word: slashfic. I mean, that's happened to basically everything that's popular enough to have a fandom^^ Luckily, since I kept the amount of supernatural stuff in my story to a minimum, I do have hope that there won't be any elves, ghosts or demons going rampant. And if anyone ever does a crossover with Twilight, I'm gonna curl up in a corner and cry. I mean, I like Twilight, but really, sparkly vampires do so not belong into this world... And the worst thing that could happen: high school AU. With the popular football captain, the shy, weird girl practicing witchcraft and the cheerleader trying to ruin her life... oh god, please, no. Just... no.

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MaddieMcMoomin — Sun, 22 Jan 2012 12:48:33 -0500

Slash. *shudder* if my fans were anything like Harry Potter fans, there'd be so many slash fanfics because a lot of the characters are good friends with people their own sex - but GOOD FRIENDS. That's all! >.< If someone made a high school AU of mine, I think I'd hunt them down, bitchslap them and kill them.

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Itzika — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 11:18:20 -0500

Oh geez, I didn't even think of Twilight. I have no idea how a crossover between Saint Nicky and Twilight would work, but it wouldn't be pretty.

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Airen Rin — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 00:42:35 -0500

That would be... eh. I can see a lot of potential pairings. I leave a lot of things for the fandom to interpret The most common would probably be... Simon/Clara: probably the most normal pairings of them all - if the Warped in question are capable of feeling romantic emotions. Hawk/Dylan: probably the closest thing to actual romantic relationship between my three main characters (in two novels) and is very slashable. A lot of their conversations/actions can be interpreted as romantic. Lots of major fangirling for those two characters - even from the author herself. Hawk/Anita: Possibly the most squick for the author. Ever. Even more than Mike/Anita or Ryan/Elizabeth who are cousins and siblings. Hawk (who the author believes is rather good-looking) is never aware of her existence and Anita holds the same fascination for Hawk as a ten year old preteen girl for Robert Patterson in the Twilight movies. She does change into a more mature and in-depth person, though, but I could see the fandom turning her into another Mary-Sue. I wouldn't want to see: - Hawk/Ryan slash: Hawk kills Ryan in the most graphic manner, why would they get together? - Any of the Warped speaking in contractions - Any of the Warped singing in bands or acting. They wouldn't be Warped then. - Mary Sues that end up half-Warped like Dylan. Even then, he suffered a whole bunch in the book and ended up sealing off his powers. - Warped people angsting. They don't angst. They can't feel true happiness or sadness. That's why they are Warped. - Mr. Wickette/anyone: sorry, he's irredeemable. Even if he is, the spiral of villainy that he took is irredeemable.

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Kay Proctor — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 00:49:23 -0500

I have a feeling that people will pair up Cynthia and The Mayor. It'll most likely be dubcon or noncon. There's also the possibility that Cynthia will be paired up with her adoptive father once people find out that they're not really related. Though I definitely see Edward/Dexter pairings, due to them being enemies for most of the book. I don't get Foe Yay pairings, but that seems to be what a lot of fanfic writers go for.

Re: How your fandom will butcher your book.

Airen Rin — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 00:51:55 -0500

Slashfics are fine for me, as long as they don't turn the straight (and married) characters gay. O.o Crossover? Never thought of it... Twilight/Access: vampires would probably be accidentally categorized into another aspect of Warped, especially since most are pale due to staying inside/in front of the computers all day and have golden eyes as a permanent and physical sign of their powers. I think I can see them vampires playing along... up until the part where normal humans try to kill them off for gaining powers. Harry Potter/Access? Not probable. Magic world with wands versus science world with telekinetic, temperatural, electronic powers? Starting to sound like the To aru no... series. High school AU: Eh, Access: Unlimited does have high school... wait... no... the Mary-Sues! No, anything but the Mary-sues...

Re: How your fandom will butcher your book.

Ink_Stained_Midnight — Sun, 29 Jan 2012 12:08:34 -0500

I think I'd be pretty cool with whatever my fandom churned out. I can deal with slash or incest fanfic as long as the story's well-written. Villain/Hero pairings...well, that's pretty much canon. If I ever actually get popular enough to have a fandom, I'll be so happy that I'll let them do whatever the hell they want. The only thing I'm terrified of is fanfics that have everyone out of character. If you decide to give them some character development that would make their actions make sense, go right ahead. But just having Conall acting lovey-dovey to Nina out of the blue? Having Damen be the perfectly sane one, or Abel the levelheaded one? Please, no.

Re: How your fandom will butcher your book.

Red Queen — Sun, 29 Jan 2012 13:03:24 -0500

I never said I wouldn't like fanfic written for my books; but there are some things I hate even in other fandoms (high school AU for Doctor Who and Resident Evil? Really now?), and I certainly wouldn't love it if they appeared in my fandom. Still, since my initial practice in writing came almost solely from fanfic, I wouldn't mind it; in fact, I would encourage it. It would just be damn weird, I guess... ô.O

Re: How your fandom will butcher your book.

Itzika — Sun, 29 Jan 2012 17:43:17 -0500

Most slash and incest fanfic IS horribly out of character. The kind of characters who have a messed-up sibling relationship enough to start screwing each other (*cough*wincest*cough*) wouldn't be sweet and tender about it... but that's the kind of fic that seems to crop up the most. Slash too--not quite as bad, because the relationship isn't inherently going to mess them up, but the guys are suddenly fluffy as gumdrop clouds, regardless of their actual relationship.

Re: How your fandom will butcher your book.

Axael — Tue, 31 Jan 2012 02:53:39 -0500

Considering I have 4 novels on the go - Two I'm planning for Camp NaNo and one thats half plotted, half written, and another thats mouldering in some alternate-dimension dresser drawer (the ADDD for short) Uhmm.. fandom will eat the crap out of my novels. I foresee nothing but disaster for my fantasy project. Realistically speaking I wouldnt' be surprised if its been done already, but I know one of its readers will actually turn dubstep into a form of magic/religion... One of my Camp NaNo plans which may or may not happen, contains heavy references to Nintendo and a certain Creepypasta... "You shouldn't have wrote that.." comes to mind. The other Camp NaNo I WILL write, the entire geisha-loving community will either love me or hate me for. I HAVE done and CONTINUE to do my research, I was determined not to step on anyones toes...and then my sleep-deprived, energy drink- fueled brain spews it out: vampire geisha. *rubs forehead tiredly* "Fictional Theatrics" series will be hit worst of all when I finally publish it. I predict lots of slash fanfiction, and alternate-timeline fanfics that make me cringe. Or y'know, just angry letters ot the author complaining that "this never happened" or "you aren't portraying my character right!" Oh well. I'll buy a jumbo fireplace to burn all the hate-mail in. Keeps me warm and toasty over the long frosty winters :D

Re: How your fandom will butcher your book.

MissAngelAdorer — Tue, 31 Jan 2012 09:20:38 -0500

Oh, I just thought of another way: Bashing. It's what I loathe the most about fandom, and it usually happens to my favorite characters (Ron Weasely, for primary example). I can just imagine how much havok would be wreaked on some of the characters.

Re: How your fandom will butcher your book.

firebird_ysa — Wed, 01 Feb 2012 12:01:35 -0500

I was really looking forward to seeing the fandom for my NaNo, until I read the Q&A session that was on the forums at the start of November and the author raised the legal issues which can come up from it, and I can sort of see her point, which is a shame. Pairings I can see are all over the place. There will be the Team Shan and Team Diarmuid... and then there will be the Team Shan/Diarmuid, and Ysabelle will be painted as an awful witch of a woman (because women can rarely be nice in slash fics). Charlie may end up in an unholy threesome with Shan and Diarmuid, if he's not bonking Ysabelle or his little sister Caitlin, and Caitlin will probably end up as the consolation prize to whoever doesn't get with Ysabelle. It's the fandom tropes that become fandom-canon which I'd be interested in. - because Ysabelle was a street kid and in a gang, she will have been raped/a child prostitute/otherwise sexually abused as a child. - Caitlin will secretly be a cutter/self-harmer with suicidal tendencies, oh the emo! - Also, she will have been abused by Charlie because no brother can actually like his sister without actually wanting to do the sex with her. - Diarmuid will be a long-distance piner, hopelessly in love with Ysabelle/Shan/Charlie/His own brother who isn't even in the first book for years, instead of actually just having a master plan that no-one knows about. - Shan might be a cutter. More likely he will be an abusive alcoholic rapist who will send Ysabelle/Diarmuid/Charlie/Caitlin flying to the arms of their one-true-love who will heal her/him with their magic penis/vagina. (Sorry, it's a trope that keeps coming up on fanficrants) I love the fandom-canons which pop up. Some of them are brilliant. Like how Cassandra Clare started the Draco-wears-Leather one in Harry Potter. Hopefully the ones from my fandom will be hilarious. Highschool AUs will probably happen even though the maths just doesn't work, what with Ysabelle being 5 years older than Charlie, and 7 years older than Caitlin - not to mention the unknown but likely in at least triple-figures ages of Shan and Diarmuid. More likely I'll get bizarre High Fantasy AUs, where there are princesses and adventurers and Charlie is an elf. A ginger, freckly elf.

Re: How your fandom will butcher your book.

Celticsmc12 — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 18:21:57 -0500

Sammy/DiNozzo or Jack/Sammy. Sammy is a girl. Jack is 55, and DiNozzo is twelve. Figuratively. Have Danny NOT get his leg chopped off. It wouldn't work. Danny's leg being amputated is what fuels part of the story line. Have any character die. WILL RUIN EVERYTHING. Take Stanigo out of the story. Have any type of magic, fantasy, or mad science involved. Decide that Sammy dumps Danny. NO STINKIN WAY. Get Danny reinstated as an agent. Don't do it. Do anything OOC. Do anything /. I WILL PUKE. Have Sammy decide to quit being an agent. Make Sammy and Claire best buds before the murder. Make anyone know Stanigo/ Jihole/ Poplin/ Rite before this all happens. Make anyone get kidnapped by Stanigo BEFORE the actual hostage situation. If I EVER publish my book, and people start writing FF like these, be forewarned. I. WILL.KILL.YOU.

Re: How your fandom will butcher your book.

Labyrinth Rose — Fri, 03 Feb 2012 21:18:45 -0500

If there's a strong enough December/Sian fandom, they might write fanfiction keeping Sian from attempting suicide and ending up in the hospital... In which case... The story no longer works... The idea of a Clara/Snow fandom makes me want to cry.

Re: How your fandom will butcher your book.

CupboardOfWonders — Wed, 08 Feb 2012 14:50:06 -0500

If anyone ever gender-bent my villians, I would maim them. IT. WOULD. NOT. WORK.

Re: How your fandom will butcher your book.

KatnissGinnyMaxTally — Mon, 27 Feb 2012 19:08:34 -0500

I don't think "butcher" is really the right word...I probably butcher a lot of authors books, actually. Anyway: -Sennin: First of all, I think there would be a lot of yuri pairings. Mostly because it takes place at an all-girls academy. Second, I bet they would start writing a lot of Sennin/Harry Potter crossovers. Third, there would definitely be some stories from the Witches perspectives. -Burnt: I think people would pair Kane and Jane. Which is weird, cause Jane is 12 and Kane is 18. Kane is merely an older brotherly figure, folks!

Re: How your fandom will butcher your book.

theInsane — Tue, 28 Feb 2012 10:08:13 -0500

like most people have said - fanfic will twist and warp all the relationships into sexual and/or romantic attractions. and i will be very tempted to commit violence. especially if it involves changing sexualities, genders, and/or gender identities just... eugh, squicky!!! making friendships or even just 'understandings' into sexual relationships makes my blood boil. i feel like writing an author's note to the effect of: "none of these characters have any interest in f***ing each other, d#*^ it and if you think they do you need to get your mind of the *&*^#$!*^ gutter! (Or possibly get some therapy, because you may have some relationship issues you ought to work on. you probably shouldn't be having sex with everyone you want to be friends with, yknow?)" that and because in one or two stories i've strayed into potentially controversial topics i can easily see someone totally warping things (e.g. characters' beliefs) into the very opposite of what they should be. which again, would make me want to commit violence. either try to stay true to the original (canon) vision, take five extra minutes to change a few more details and create an original story/character OR at least don't post it online/in public!!

Re: How your fandom will butcher your book.

Twenty Thousand Eyes — Wed, 29 Feb 2012 01:49:46 -0500

Yeah, my first thought was "slashfic". The main character of my next story would find the very thought of being *that way* with either of the male main characters in the novel horrifyingly creepy. She views them as adoptive brothers, and her love interest doesn't show up until later. Though it'll be funny too see how it'll turn out. I especially look forward to how fans would try and make the villains look like "not such bad guys" because their abilities are so interesting.

Re: How your fandom will butcher your book.

32AurorA05 — Sat, 17 Mar 2012 13:20:51 -0400

Oh... I can see the Casey x Jeremy now... and the Nikolaus bashing... and the Percabeth-esque Jake x Amanda... and the making Ian legitly fall in love with everyone, just because he's creepy like that doesn't mean he actually likes who he's being creepy toward... and the Collin x Sam... and possibly a few Michael x Amandas even though he's asexual and such..

Re: How your fandom will butcher your book.

mattskywalker — Sun, 18 Mar 2012 16:35:06 -0400

If my first novel was ever to be published, I'd be afraid of any fandom pairing the characters. None of them are paired up in the story, so that would just annoy me.

Re: How your fandom will butcher your book.

neon.tigress — Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:43:35 -0400

The incest. Oh goodness, the incest ._. There are a lot of siblings in my novel. Heck, the two main characters are brother and sister, and the sister falls in love with a guy who has a rather bitter relationship with his own brother. The sequel focuses on twin brothers. Two semi-main characters are also brothers. I have a thing for siblings, apparently o_O Rewriting the entire ending so that MMC survives so he can be wif his twoo wuv and they can live happily ever after with their son! Screw that, I'd be so pissed if I saw that 'cause it misses the point of the whole story. Shipping ALL the characters! And then there are the inserted Mary-Sue characters... *shudders* Let's see, I'm picturing a girl who's just SO beautiful and SO nice and SO talented who becomes a necromancer like FMC. Or maybe she'll fall in love with a necromancer 'cause that's just SO dangerous, omg lol. Then she'll save the capital city from an attack because she discovers that her powers are naturally so much stronger than everyone else's, and everyone will treat her like a hero and they'll make her the leader of the necromancers even though they've never had a female leader before and she's only been training for a few weeks, and becoming the leader requires at least a decade of work... That, or (on the opposite side of the story with MMC) she'll be a female warrior who joins the rebel army disguised as a man and ends up falling in love with one of the main male characters, somehow. Then at the climax she'll save MMC's life and reform him with her kindness! Aww... Oh gawd, make it stop DX

Re: How your fandom will butcher your book.

martianlunatic — Thu, 05 Apr 2012 10:34:53 -0400

It occurred to me that if I ever get famous, there are going to be teenage fangirls who self-divide into "Team Faraday" and "Team Rutherford" :P

Re: How your fandom will butcher your book.

Cavaliere Errante — Fri, 06 Apr 2012 02:35:51 -0400

I don't think my new plot, "Damned Nation," would be very good for fanfiction. Not unless a bunch of oc's were added. As far as scrrewing with relationships there isn't too much to do. The most common would be Jack/Sora, because the plot does kind of lend itself to a potential relationship there. For slash pairings I guess there could always be Jack/Nash, Jack/Frizz, or Jack/Dex but those guys get very limited screen time anyhow. Although someone might want to play with Nash and Dex, who are already a couple. I suppose they could also ship Jack and Nicky together too, which would probably end up as some kind of bdsm kind of thing since Nicky is Jack's loanshark and has him beaten a few times. The other thing they might do is bring Gia back to life. Which I would find very unfortunate because the fact that she is truly dead does wonders for Jack's development and is pretty much his entire motivation. But mostly I suspect fanfic writers would probably focus on the race and the death, because who doesn't love fast cars, guns, and explosions? Chances are they would ignore the rules of the ROK and pull a Hunger Games and let two winners survive or something like that. Or only the jerks die and everyone else lives somehow, I don't really know. The only thing that would irritate me would be if they completely ignored the message behind the story. If they changed the ending so Jack and Sora live happily ever after with tons of money and tons of fame, and everyone is oh so happy about it. Because if they did that, then obviously they did not get my message and that would make me sad.

Re: How your fandom will butcher your book.

Hunger Ludinivalis — Sat, 07 Apr 2012 14:28:13 -0400

Oh no... I would just... First, they'd probably end up with Cherry and her sister hooking up, which WON'T HAPPEN. EVER. IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD. Or Cherry and Alfred. Or Cherry and anyone. Cherry is not interested in getting married until she's a published author. She probably won't even want to get married after what she goes through. She ends up in a mental asylum at the end of the book, for Pete's sake! And then they'd make Malcolm a rapist as well as a murderer. Sure, he kills people, but he's nowhere near them when he does so! He only does it for the enjoyment of watching Alfred try to catch him. And then there'd be the inevitable Alfred/Malcolm fics... just no. That's just... never. I beg you.

Re: How your fandom will butcher your book.

UnicornEmma — Mon, 09 Apr 2012 04:21:39 -0400

I wonder how many people typing all these things have ever written fanfiction. Seriously, I'm looking forward to seeing people write fanfiction of my characters. The only thing I wouldn't like is if they manage to come away as fans of my story/characters and still think that polyamory isn't true love--turning my characters monogamous just so they can "experience true love" would tick me off, but not because they're changing the characters. Just the ignorant and hateful idea that fuels it. I mean, really, haven't you all ever shipped fanonly? Or thought the author didn't pair up the best characters to put in relationships? Fanon shipping (and yes, that includes slash, get it over) is just part of the fandom experience. Don't want people to ever slash your characters? Don't publish a book.

Re: How your fandom will butcher your book.

UnicornEmma — Mon, 09 Apr 2012 04:23:15 -0400

[quote=DeathOfScythes] Stripping heterosexuality or un-dooming doomed relationships is normal though. should more exotic pairings such as Fairy king/the 60 year old post-menopausal Linda or The Unicorn/anything happen, I'l go from disgusted to proud of the fan community. If there's enough of a fanfiction base for every possible pairing to happen I think I have it made as an author. [/quote] Cheers!

Re: How your fandom will butcher your book.

UnicornEmma — Mon, 09 Apr 2012 04:28:52 -0400

Yeah, I would hate to have one of my lovely characters bashed.

Re: How your fandom will butcher your book.

UnicornEmma — Mon, 09 Apr 2012 04:29:45 -0400

It really would, though.

Re: How your fandom will butcher your book.

firelight_cinderbrick — Tue, 10 Apr 2012 06:08:08 -0400

I realized a long time ago that if my book ever gets published and becomes successful(which I doubt because I don't have much experience in this yet) my two FMCs will get paired up. Which is kind of horrifying for me since they are intended to be best frenemies. Or even worse Sherlette with Dentrin or Faris. Or Iza with Porul. Maybe even Cade and Rilt, partly my fault I hinted that kind of relationship early on. Iza and Porul is the most horrific, I cannot imagine what insane universe they will end up together in. My wip has no romance at all, so I'm kind of scared of the possibilities.

Re: How your fandom will butcher your book.

Cavaliere Errante — Tue, 10 Apr 2012 11:20:06 -0400

I was kind of under the impression that we were discussing bad fanfiction. You know, the kind that pairs up characters who make zero sense being together no matter what universe you put them in because it's so freaking obvious it just would never work. And then on top of that they completely ignore the personalities of the characters, the rules of the universe the author created, and... pretty much ignore everything but the names of the characters in question and what they looked like. I have no problem with people slashing my characters, I'd just prefer it if they didn't do an awful job of it.

Re: How your fandom will butcher your book.

UnicornEmma — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 03:09:26 -0400

Possibly the most popular ship in the HP fanon is Harry/Draco. It makes zero sense, it would never work in canon, but people adore it and some write excellent fanfiction about them. Harry/Snape also has a lot of superb writers in its corner. Bad fanfiction can be written about any ship, and bad ships can have wonderful fanfiction. Just about every concern I've seen on this thread about ships has a Harry Potter equivalent that's popular or fairly popular. People worried their fans will ship platonic best friends--arguably the most popular single piece of fanfiction is The Shoebox Project, which is Remus/Sirius. There's also a lot of Harry/Ron, Ginny/Hermione, Harry/Hermione, etc. The incest concern is run over with Weasley fanfics. Fact is, what we as writers think of as good relationships is not a universal truth. Everyone likes different kinds of dynamics. We've probably all known couples IRL who seem like they would never work out because they're too different (or too similar) but they're happy together. Different experiences lead to different understandings and expectations, blah blah.

Re: How your fandom will butcher your book.

lemming_the_lemming — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 10:14:52 -0400

I generally have no problem with fanfic of any kind, so I wouldn't use the word 'butcher' here. Actually, if anyone liked something I wrote enough to write fanfic of it, I would be rather flattered. Something like that looks like a compliment to me. Still, there are a few pairings that I think might (in a hypothetical universe in which I somehow become a successful author) end up being popular, even if they wouldn't make any sense in canon. For the two I'm planning for Camp Nano: The Tomorrow Chronicles Blue x Elijah. They're very close friends, but wouldn't work as a couple. For one thing, Blue is a lesbian. Elijah is asexual, but not aromantic, so I suppose some pairings with him could make sense in terms of canon, so long as they stay chaste. Galaxy Rise Link x Blaze. Would make complete sense if Blaze were gay. Link already is, so it's at least conceivable that he might be interested. They certainly spend enough time flirting with each other. That and bickering. The amount of sarcastic comments they throw at each other really make them fun to write for, actually. I'd kind of like to see what a fanfic writer would have them in a relationship look like.

Re: How your fandom will butcher your book.

Cavaliere Errante — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 10:29:29 -0400

No offense but I would classify all Harry/Draco fanfiction as bad. To me bad fanfiction is when the writer completely ignores everything the author has laid out in the original, shipping Harry and Draco together is doing just that. It has nothing to do with how well it's written, it's all in ignoring the rules of the author's universe to the point that it's utterly laughable. Shipping Harry and Draco together is laughable no matter how well written the story is.

Re: How your fandom will butcher your book.

UnicornEmma — Fri, 13 Apr 2012 02:22:26 -0400

Well, in the end, we just have different definitions of bad fanfiction. Fanon shipping, and generally playing with the characters in ways the author didn't (AU), has been a big part of every fandom I've ever been in--it's part of fandom itself, I think. Maybe that's why I'm bothered by how strongly some of the replies to this thread have been worded. I'm a fangirl, I love my fandoms and fanfiction and fanart and shipping and everything that goes along with it. Anyone who hates all that would understandably not be too happy about their own stories being subjected to it, but seriously: If you have a big enough fanbase, it's going ot happen, so people aiming for fame should learn to deal with it as soon as possible. Oh well.

Re: How your fandom will butcher your book.

firebird_ysa — Fri, 13 Apr 2012 05:02:08 -0400

Hear hear! Shipping random pairings is half the fun of fanfiction! I'm a fanficcer (well, partially recovering), but often I've felt that the 'canon' pairings just don't feel right. Harry/Ginny, for example, or even Remus/Tonks, felt to me unsupported, nonsensical, trite and done for the sake of it rather than because it made sense for the characters. To me, that's because I don't think JK Rowling can write romance. I saw more chemistry between other characters, which was more fun to explore and develop. The whole POINT of fanfiction is playing with the rules laid out by the author, developing the characters as you came to know them, and then showing other people who the characters you came to know are - everyone reads books differently! I didn't like Ginny at all, as she was written. Fanfiction allows me to see her as other people saw her. It's all very well and good saying "if you want to do that, write an original story", but fanfiction is a place where people can develop the tools needed to write original stories, in an open and responsive forum where they can get feedback and share their ideas. Also - fanfic is WAY more relaxing to write than original fiction, because the building blocks are already there. It's just good fun. Yes, there will be slash fic, bad fic, mary-sue fic, AU-fic, "Oh God Why Did I Click This?" fic, but that's the fun of the fandom! Instead of taking it as squicky or offensive or ragey, take it as the compliment it is - people loved your characters and your story so much, they want to keep it going in their own little way. They put their time and energies into these works, and just because you don't like each and every one (and you won't, because no-one ever will), that doesn't make the sentiment any less valuable. I'm personally very excited about the possibility of ever having a fandom. Fandom is a great place to be, and it's going to be a magical, enlightening and clearly quite batty ride to see what these people loved about my novel, what they hated, and what they read into it that I never expected in all my days.

Re: How your fandom will butcher your book.

Red Queen — Fri, 13 Apr 2012 05:45:31 -0400

^So much this. But, really, does that mean that I'm not allowed to cringe on the inside when I read something along the lines of "Ohhh, I wrote him gay cuz his manliness is just a cover for his truu luv for his cousin/squad leader/tabby cat!!!" ...?^^ Sure, fanfic Is sort of a compliment. Bud *bad fanfic* pretty much is like someone saying "Hey, you look great. Not nearly as fat as one year ago!" I'd be not sure whether to thank them or to punch them ô.O ...see what I mean? ;)

Re: How your fandom will butcher your book.

firebird_ysa — Fri, 13 Apr 2012 11:22:44 -0400

Oh absolutely, poorly written and poorly thought out fanfic is awful. But I think I can see what the OP is saying when a lot of people on the thread do seem to be against any pairings whatsoever. For example, close friends can become lovers - just because the author can't see it, doesn't mean it wouldn't make logical sense to be expanded in that direction in fanfic. A lot of people seem to be against alternate pairings altogether! I mean, for example, I read a lot of Gundam Wing fanfiction, and prefer the m/m slash, or alternative het pairings to the canon ones set out. This is because I feel the characters paired in fics had more chemistry in the source material than perhaps the canon pairings. And there is some amazing quality writing there for those pairings - fic alternative to the authors view, is not automatically bad fic.

Re: How your fandom will butcher your book.

Red Queen — Fri, 13 Apr 2012 12:17:23 -0400

Not necessarily, not. But there's always the difference between the average fanfic reader and the author who reads fanfic of their works. Even if it makes sense, *I* know why I write what I write. ...that said, I guess it's probably not the best idea for an author to read fic for their works... ô.O

Re: How your fandom will butcher your book.

Sappire — Mon, 16 Apr 2012 02:57:23 -0400

I'd actually be more terrified of /what/ they would write in fanfiction. o_o Because my book actually has some romance in it as a subplot, I can see some fans deciding to write fanfiction that kind of... takes it to the extreme. Yes, yes, I know the love interest and my main character get married. But the main plot of the story is the murder mystery. Not the romance. I don't want to see a ton of stories written about my characters that focus entirely around the romantic aspect in such a way that would make my most hardened characters blush. Because just no. >_>'''; And someone mentioedn OCs? Yes. Yes, if I ever get a fan base, I can almost guarantee that I'll be landed with a hundred and one OCs who come in and suddenly take over my main character's job as a detective in order to woo her by showing her up. No, she would not be impressed. She'd shoot you in the head and laugh. I'm sorry, but that's not how to win her over. And the nurses. Oh my goodness the nurses that are going to come in to try and steal the love interest from my detective just because he works as a doctor. And I see a ton of female Mary-Sues that will find themselves in the emergency room and somehow form some kind of magical bond with him that makes him leave his wife and two kids so they can run off together. If you're going to write fanfiction for my novel, by all means, you're welcome to write it in my setting with my characters. But my characters are not going to be leaving their wives/husbands to marry your self-insert Mary-Sue. Sorry. And I'm a -little- bit scared of people cosplaying as my characters in odd ways. Like those scary pictures of... strange people dressed up as Pikachu? Yeah. Do not want. o_o

Re: How your fandom will butcher your book.

murphyslawyer — Wed, 18 Apr 2012 20:50:33 -0400

Oh, oh god. Warped relationships that the author cannot comprehend? There is room for far too much of that in my series. Let's see, book one, I have one FMC and four male characters. Gideon is definitely the main male character, but the other three guys aren't slouches either. Seeing Cass/anyone but Gideon would be so weirdly amusing to me. Cass/Ryan or Cass/Cillian would be the likeliest one. Aedhan's pretty remote in the first book, though he's all nice and teasing to her, but I guess the really crazy fans could go for that one. Cass/Ryan would be an easy one. They flirt back and forth and tease the life out of each other, but it's really just for fun. As for Cass/Cillian, they've both been hurt before, and he's the first person Cass meets when she goes to Ireland, so I guess they kinda get along right off the bat... but ehhhh... As for Ronan. Well. Who knows? It only gets worse in each book when a new character is added. By book four I have Cass, Emily, Brenna, Gwen, and Caoihlinn and Gideon, Ryan, Aedhan, Ronan, and Iain. SO MANY PAIRINGS, SO MUCH NOT HAPPENING. Iain's a slut, so he could be paired with who knows who. The idea of fans writing Iain/Ryan slash is just... wat. wat wat wat. Because while they do eventually get along YEAH NO. Nothing against slash, nothing against fanfic, but when the characters just don't fit together that way, they don't fit together that way. Oh, and let's not forget all the people Dubhlainn could be paired with. Or Sophia! Or Finn. Oh, Sophia/Finn is actually a rather amusing thought, I can't lie. Sophia/Dubhlainn is canon, so they can play around with that one so long as Dubhlainn remains the madman he is and Sophia remains her usual sneaky, slutty self. Really, the idea of all these pairings amuses me more than anything else. It could be rather entertaining to see if done well. Bad writing in general makes me cringe, though, not just bad writing in fanfics. I guess people could play with Aoibheal/Aedhan, if they wanted, which might even be interesting for me to see.... Oh yeah, then there's Roisin and Keenan. I swear if anyone tries to start incest with my twins I might just cry. The world they live in and octopus-family (it has many limbs XD) they're born into is weird enough without that messing things up some more. There's also Alesander and Asha. Now, the Fae might actually be dysfunctional enough for this stuff, and the more I figure out of their relationship the more it seems like it might have slightly squicky overtones to it on Asha's end at least. If anyone writes fanfic with those two actually getting on the incest train, it better be damn good fanfic and well-explained, that's all I'm saying. Also, yes my male characters are close to each other, but that's on a brotherly note. Gideon being slashed with anyone just would not work. He's a frakking incubus. He has to have sex with women. Literally has to. (Bet some guys would love that reasoning.) Ryan just enjoys women too damn much to start batting for the other team. Aedhan, being full Fae, could swing either way, but he's pretty set in his preference for women. Still, I guess people could slash him. As for Cillian, well, it's said right in the book that he loses all interest in relationships after Abby died. And Ronan's so laidback I don't think sex occurs to him half the time. XD Oh yeah. On the subject of Mick, Rhiannon and Fachtna: May I just say that a threesome with those characters WILL NEVER HAPPEN. Besides, none of my characters share well, so this is probably all moot. xD But yeah. Anything reallyreallyreally weird or out of character or things that are in canon impossible would just upset me. XD Otherwise... bring it!

Re: How your fandom will butcher your book.

murphyslawyer — Wed, 18 Apr 2012 20:50:49 -0400

HOLY SHIT. I have too many characters....

Re: How your fandom will butcher your book.

Yirggzmb — Fri, 20 Apr 2012 00:54:24 -0400

The only story I've managed to finish is my 2010 NaNo. There's not a lot of fan fiction ideas that would really bother me to see people do, but there is one. I have a little girl character (like 4 years old). I have a nightmarish, beastly monster character. Said monster would like to kidnap said little girl and keep her captive until she hits puberty so she can bear him a child. And then feed her to the resulting offspring. I just know that there'd be someone out there who'd want to write the "what if" story. And believe me, if anyone ever did write that story I would never, ever want to see it. Never. Other than that, I can't think of anything else that would bother me. The monster character (never given a name by the way - maybe someone would want to give him one) is a lot of fun to write (and also a sick, twisted, incomprehensible freak) and I can think of a lot of potential there.