Absurd, surreal, and Bizarro fiction http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742 TANK Ex Mortis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absurdist_fiction http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surrealism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bizarro_fiction Okay, now that we're all caught up: this here's a topic for weird people who write weirdly about weird things, or some combination thereof, or something. What do you do in a topic like this anyway? I guess you talk about your story? Okay well mine's about going to middle school. All of the protagonist's classmates are figures from his past, and some of them used to be dead or are occasionally two people or are vampires. The school has this thing where it manifests strong emotions as objects or scenarios, which is a pretty shitty thing for a school to do. Also there are mutants, and LGBT themes, and school shootings, and a lot of dismemberment and creepy sex acts. It's a romance, obviously; it's very loosely based on old shoujo anime, it's called The Absolute Destiny Apocalypse, and it's gonna be fucking sweet. So tell me about your book, a'ight? Or whatever you wanna talk about is cool. Tue, 11 Oct 2011 13:34:25 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_10461 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_10461 quietly-making-noise I think I'll be sidling over into the surreal, if my warm-up writing is anything to go by. The last time thing I wrote, the character's umbrella was yellow and black striped - so much like a bumblebee that it got excited when she walked past a flowerbed and leaned in for a closer look... I blame Boris Vian, and too much hot chocolate. Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:21:52 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_13571 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_13571 TANK Ex Mortis That's beautiful. Can you recommend a good translation of Vian? I've never read his stuff. Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:49:02 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_14038 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_14038 Kurt McFry That sounds fricking amazing. O_O I don't know if I could read 50,000 words in a row of it, but it's so... Wonderlandian and mind-boggling and beautiful, like a dream. :D Your novel synopsis is similarly epic :') Tue, 11 Oct 2011 17:37:24 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_14878 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_14878 NoProblemReally My story is about murder, classical music, sexual deviance, Octopus relationships, hooks, and co-dependance Tue, 11 Oct 2011 18:44:09 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_16125 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_16125 TANK Ex Mortis Thank you sir, that's quite a compliment. I don't know if I could write 50,00 words in a row of it, either. I like novellas more anyway, so I'm probably gonna go for that and then start something else when/if I finish the first story. Last time I ended up with a 15,000 word novella; this time I'm aiming for something a tad longer, but probably no more than 30,000 words. Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:23:05 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_16857 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_16857 TANK Ex Mortis *50,000. And where is the damn edit button on these new forums? I'm crippled without it, I might have to think about what I say or something. Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:24:31 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_16882 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_16882 TANK Ex Mortis Are the relationships between an octopus and an octopus, or between an octopus and a person? Also, I love your synopsis. Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:30:40 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_16998 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_16998 musicismymoirail I think I'm going to take a plunge into absurdism this year. It's about two steps away from it in my head anyways, why not? (: There's no real synopsis yet as I'm going to have to rethink a few things first, but everyone else's sound amazing though. I'm really intrigued. Tue, 11 Oct 2011 21:14:54 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_19112 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_19112 Saker Pup Oddly, the idea that the octopus relationships in question might be between an octopus and an octopus didn't even enter my head until you asked... and now I'm curious too. Tue, 11 Oct 2011 21:44:51 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_19709 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_19709 TANK Ex Mortis Either would be great. I feel compelled to link this: http://www.octodadgame.com/ Tue, 11 Oct 2011 22:03:40 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_20092 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_20092 Saker Pup 'kay, technically I claim horror as my genre 'cause horror has my heart but I think this year I'll wind up doing something between Bizarro and Absurdist with an erotic-horror twist. It's about a mermaid who wants a soul, a serial killer who was born without a heart--literally--and an ex-surfer girl who's afraid to go back in the water. There will be sharks. There will be sex. (Shark sex? Likely.) Blood, viscera, mutilation, torture and grotesques damage of every sort I can conceive of. And there'll probably be a nihilistic bent to the whole thing as I've been feeling rather nihilistic lately. It's gonna be fun. Tue, 11 Oct 2011 22:04:44 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_20112 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_20112 TANK Ex Mortis Go for it! Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:00:21 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_31943 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_31943 TANK Ex Mortis There seems to be a lot of crossover between horror and bizarro. Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:01:09 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_31963 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_31963 Saker Pup Yes. Horror is my first love but what's the point of writing within a category if you don't fully intend to subvert that category whenever the opportunity presents itself? (And thank you for introducing me to the concept of bizarro. I had never heard of it before last week but it almost feels sort of like home.) Wed, 12 Oct 2011 19:13:13 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_34928 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_34928 Saker Pup <a href="http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/04/080403-AP-octopus-photo.html" rel="nofollow">True</a> (the takeaway in this article is that octopi engage in "jealous murders," yet the actual octo<em>sex</em> is just sort of mechanical and blah). And I feel <a href="http://www.asofterworld.com/index.php?id=177" rel="nofollow">similarly compelled</a>. Wed, 12 Oct 2011 20:12:57 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_35876 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_35876 TANK Ex Mortis That article is the best thing I've ever read. Wed, 12 Oct 2011 21:37:28 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_37114 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_37114 TANK Ex Mortis Okay I just spent the last 17 minutes looking for the source article because I am a huge nerd, and I'm here to brag about my <a href="http://ib.berkeley.edu/labs/caldwell/Caldwell%20pdfs/Aaculeatusmating.pdf" rel="nofollow">astounding success.</a> <em>brb reading about cephalopod sex</em> Wed, 12 Oct 2011 21:56:51 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_37399 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_37399 Saker Pup Your Google-fu is infinitely superior to mine, good sir. *humbly bows before you* (Oh god, I'm actually going read that entire pdf, aren't I? ... I think yes.) Thu, 13 Oct 2011 00:53:10 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_39523 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_39523 alastor993 Okay, I think my very, very vaque idea fits best with absurd fiction. It'll most probably turn out as a fictional memoir (extremely loosly based on my life), filled with weird confersations (first choice in hanging yourself: a beam, staircase, tree?), morning grudges turning bad, lively fantasies about car accidents and a right arm that must be removed for it's in the way.... and just maybe some space travel, since it's 50.000 words so there's enough space to be filled! (she just goes on and on!) Told you it's vaque! I think it will suit me just fine though. Thu, 13 Oct 2011 06:43:40 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_41550 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_41550 alastor993 oh and useless, random acts (no edit button!?!?) Thu, 13 Oct 2011 06:44:50 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_41555 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_41555 TANK Ex Mortis Sounds like fun! Have you read any of Sam Pink's stuff? Your vague idea sort of reminds me of his vague books. Sat, 15 Oct 2011 10:57:58 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_69760 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_69760 Omino Pascal Hi, I love reading and writing bizarro fiction (btw, http://bizarrocentral.com/ is the place to be). I'm planning on writing a story called "Diary of a Weretarian". The story is set in a world where people only eat sausages, so as you can guess everyone looks and smells like a dinosaur. Male and female genders have morphed into a single gender, and people's social standing depends on their body type (mesomorph, then endomorph, then ectomorph). The world is ruled by fascistic leather bound librarians, and the only books are diaries made of fungus and meat that share a symbiotic/parasitic relationship with the writer. One day, people find that their houses are being destroyed and eaten by "weretarians", who cannot adapt to the meat eating lifestyle. I'd describe it as a gross-out romantic coming of age murder mystery/psychological thriller. Mon, 17 Oct 2011 02:22:38 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_92507 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_92507 Selah Ex Animo Home sweet home? Thank you so much for this thread. I think I may have found my genre - or at least, one flavour in my cocktail of genres. Reading through everyone's posts and fascinating synopses have given me the confidence to pursue the story I've been leaning toward but couldn't quite bring myself to commit to - that is, I want to write about the fantastic without spending narrative energy justifying its presence in an otherwise realistic setting. The fantastic, the bizarre - it simply exists and it simply happens. So far, I'm hoping to write a story that falls somewhere between absurdist fiction and magic realism, about the trials and tribulations of two people who keep waking up in different bodies. I don't want to give this occurrence of daily reincarnation a specific explanation; I'm more curious about exploring how the characters deal with the situation. The various lives the characters are saddled with range from the mundane to the bizarre (a girl whose hair won't stop growing, for example, being stalked by some kid who wants to climb it Rapunzel-style). Mon, 17 Oct 2011 06:31:25 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_93618 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_93618 TANK Ex Mortis That sounds absolutely wonderful, and definitely on the magic-realism end of bizarro. Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:52:13 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_95047 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_95047 TANK Ex Mortis Oh man, I want to read that book <em>right now.</em> Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:54:48 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_95070 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_95070 Omino Pascal Thanks :) This story kind of comes from my being a vegetarian. And my fascination with cloacas, but anyway... If I write this right, it's going to be like "Wallace and Gromit: Curse of the WereRabbit", written by Kafka, and illustrated by R. Crumb. Not for the faint stomached, probably. Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:18:08 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_95327 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_95327 manic ragdoll I've read one of the Bizarro starter kits...rather fascinating genre..rather like the result of David Lynch excreting ink onto paper. I'm writing a cyber horror novel about a theocratic sky city ruled by creatures reminiscent of mini-Cthulhus...most of the races are somewhat bizarre and Lovecraftian...involves necrophilia, bondage, bipolar disorder, and flashbacks narrated in a Bizarro Finnegan's Wake style. It's inspired by a combination of William Gibson's cyber-realms, Naoto Hattori's eldritch paintings (alongside numerous other surreal painters), and Lovecraft's nihilism and Elder Gods Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:09:24 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_98596 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_98596 TANK Ex Mortis That sounds great, although I'm not sure I could distinguish Bizarro Finnegan's Wake from the regular version. You should check out <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Steel-Breakfast-Era-Embryonic-Eraserhead/dp/0972959874/" rel="nofollow">The Steel Breakfast Era/The Decadent Return of the Hi-Fi Queen</a>, it's two cyberpunk-ish bizarro-y books by Simon Logan and Carlton Mellick III, I think it'd be right up your alley. Mon, 17 Oct 2011 16:14:54 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_99495 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_99495 TANK Ex Mortis Didn't R. Crumb work on a biography of Kafka a while back? That seems like a natural fit. Mon, 17 Oct 2011 16:19:02 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_99566 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_99566 manic ragdoll Carlton Mellick III's writing is always an interesting read...thank you for the suggestion! I'll have to usher it to the front of my reading list...need all the inspiration possible. And by Bizarro Finnegan's Wake I meant prose style of Joyce with Bizarro themes....just seems like an enthralling exploration in pushing the boundaries of seemingly nonsensical rambling harboring intrinsic symbolism...it sounds pretentious, but I just enjoy challenges...I might even write a section in villanelles...damn you, November 1st! Arrive! Mon, 17 Oct 2011 17:25:49 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_100658 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_100658 manic ragdoll This sounds intriguing...I certainly hope I'll have the opportunity to read a segment Mon, 17 Oct 2011 17:27:47 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_100688 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_100688 bekkiii I was told to come here with my novel from the "identify your genre here" thread and I have to say it looks very nice, and comfy. I'm not sure my novel will be as surreal as the stories you are describing, but it will be a lot more surreal than, well, anywhere else. =) Mon, 17 Oct 2011 17:46:34 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_100947 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_100947 TANK Ex Mortis To be honest, I've never read Finnegan's Wake; I'm not anywhere near smart enough for that. I did really enjoy his creepy letters to Nora Barnacle, though. Mon, 17 Oct 2011 18:20:11 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_101374 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_101374 sweet pandamonium Kudos to you guys! This kind of fiction is one of the most fantastic and fun and sometime, brilliant, fiction I see sometimes. I would love to write a sort of bizarro fiction one day, so good luck to you all. And I'd love to read some of your works once finished, that I'm sure will be awesome :D Mon, 17 Oct 2011 19:16:57 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_102048 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_102048 manic ragdoll Such poetic debauchery...reminiscent of Bataille's brilliant work "The Story of the Eye." Both enigmatic eccentrics, both vulgar and brilliant...perhaps I will incorporate a message much like Joyce's...the protagonist falling in love with one of the cyber-corpse sex slaves and discussing how he revels in her artificial moans...thank you for the inspiration! Mon, 17 Oct 2011 21:17:57 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_103618 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_103618 manic ragdoll If you are writing a KH fanfic, perhaps you could incorporate elements of Bizarro through the Lewis Carroll level...he was one of the progenitors of the genre. Render a sense of surrealism using both imagery (already provided in this instance) and prose style (make it jarring and confounded....reminiscent of the landscape). Just a suggestion :) (Cloud is one of my favorite fiction characters in regard to aesthetic...particularly in Kingdom Hearts...so I felt compelled to comment). Mon, 17 Oct 2011 21:35:27 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_103872 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_103872 Saker Pup [quote=manic ragdoll]I certainly hope I'll have the opportunity to read a segment[/quote] Neat. I'll find a way to make that happen. If nothing else, I should have an excerpt up on my profile in the first couple of days of NaNo (first draft stuff so likely awful, but hey, it's something, right?). Tue, 18 Oct 2011 00:26:30 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_105824 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_105824 Saker Pup [quote=manic ragdoll]I'm writing a cyber horror novel about a theocratic sky city ruled by creatures reminiscent of mini-Cthulhus...most of the races are somewhat bizarre and Lovecraftian...involves necrophilia, bondage, bipolar disorder, and flashbacks narrated in a Bizarro Finnegan's Wake style. It's inspired by a combination of William Gibson's cyber-realms, Naoto Hattori's eldritch paintings (alongside numerous other surreal painters), and Lovecraft's nihilism and Elder Gods[/quote] I think this description punched every button I have right in the face. Love it. Tue, 18 Oct 2011 00:34:09 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_105879 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_105879 Saker Pup One of us! One of us! Tue, 18 Oct 2011 00:38:01 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_105910 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_105910 Omino Pascal Gobble gobble, we accept her. Tue, 18 Oct 2011 01:51:00 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_106383 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_106383 Satrix My story is about a little girl who remembers the dead and how they died. Oh, and her imaginary fairy-friend comes true and starts drinking the nectar from the flowers that are growing over the mass graves of genocide. The links you guys posted are amazing. The ideas y'all have, even more so. Good luck for November! Tue, 18 Oct 2011 01:58:22 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_106416 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_106416 alastor993 No, I haven't but I'll definitely check it out! Thanks Tue, 18 Oct 2011 20:25:30 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_117333 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_117333 tkelson nice Tue, 18 Oct 2011 21:19:28 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_118138 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_118138 tkelson Here I am doing a little writers workshop with one of the premier Bizarro authors Garrett Cook. Come on over, the peeps are odd even if I do not fit into their ideas totally and wander more surreal or bleak Tue, 18 Oct 2011 21:21:40 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_118174 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_118174 Saker Pup Bleak is fun. Please elaborate. Wed, 19 Oct 2011 01:20:27 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_120991 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_120991 doomented My own story is about a seemingly well-adjusted family man who has memories of his 18-year old self who took care of a heavily bandaged, ambiguously aged man. This possibly old man tells our hero about his alleged experiences with demons, dancing with them, watching them play with each other, engaging them sexually, engaging possessed persons sexually, engaging with grinning, leprous creatures sexually...all told in excruciating detail to this young man. When the family man searches for the old man, he finds him and their relationship begins again. Later, there is a Son of Sam/Zodiac/Herbert Mullin-styled (the latter being a schizophrenic man in the 70s that shot a number of people for the purposes of sacrifice) murder spree. There will be poorly recorded cartoons, sickly talking rabbits that thrive in their suffering, dollhouses filled with twigs, nude sleepwalking hermaphrodites, badly recorded folk songs, male-male rape, secular demons that resemble decayed corpses mixed with crustaceans, and general pseudo-psychological hysteria. Wed, 19 Oct 2011 05:17:57 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_122378 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_122378 bekkiii My main character gets hypnotized and has to travel through seven darkly fairy-tale influenced areas meeting people who are her subconscious versions of real people, that she knows in the real world. Her companion is the Good Doctor, who can only follow her into hypnosis with her voice, and therefore she takes on different bodily shapes taken from the environments, depending on which area they are currently in. The real world is like ours - if it was steampunk. And I'm not sure my main character is actually in hypnosis, she might be in some kind of hypersleep, and only THINK she's in hypnosis (the details are still fuzzy). She does all this in order to find out why she once tried to commit suicide. Surreal and bizarre enough? ;) Wed, 19 Oct 2011 12:43:04 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_126905 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_126905 manic ragdoll "drinking the nectar from the flowers that are growing over the mass graves of genocide." Love it! Good luck to you, as well! Wed, 19 Oct 2011 14:49:55 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_128931 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_128931 manic ragdoll Verily...it sounds orgasmic! I would love to read an excerpt... These ideas are phenomenal...everyone ought to receive a reward solely for conceiving such caliginous convulsions! Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:53:02 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_130012 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_130012 tickyhead I'm pretty much pants-ing my novel this year (minus any convoluted plans I can keep in my head) so I really don't know where I'm going with mine yet, but chances are umbral abominations and eldritch gods will end up in it somehow (don't they always?), which means reality is going to be broken very quickly. The skeleton of the story involves a supernatural P.I. in a trenchcoat and utilikilt as the protagonist, with a sociopathic gay vampire (though any one of those three individual parts may be false) as the possible antagonist (or love interest, or both, or neither) and a haunted mansion that may or may not be built as a massive junction between tens of thousands of hellish un-realities. Adding in some Tea With Cthulu just seems like the next logical step. I guess I'll just add in "surrealist/bizarro" into my working list of genres. (so far we've got horror, fantasy, adventure, and comedy. Think I can work in a few more?) Wed, 19 Oct 2011 21:57:02 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_135514 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_135514 tickyhead I would also like to add that I do find Lewis Carroll's Alice in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass AND Lovecraft's Cthulu (and other elder gods) mythos absolutely delightful, if a bit hard to read (damned Victorian writers!) so mash those up in a blender for a minute or two and that's probably what I'm going to end up with by December. Wed, 19 Oct 2011 22:00:10 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_135567 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_135567 Saker Pup <em>Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.</em> Suggestion about your genre: Drop down to Other, then type "Fantastical Bizarro Adventure" (it should fit). Wed, 19 Oct 2011 22:10:50 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_135730 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_135730 manic ragdoll H.P. Lovecraft is the one and true god. Treat his creations well and with respect, and you may very well craft an esoteric tome of eldritch ecstasy. I wish you luck, good sir! Wed, 19 Oct 2011 22:15:18 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_135795 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_135795 tickyhead <em>Ia! Ia! Cthulu ftaghn!</em> So it is written, so shall it be! Wed, 19 Oct 2011 23:43:14 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_136976 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_136976 tickyhead I will show reverence to the God of Gods, equally good sir. Wed, 19 Oct 2011 23:46:44 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_137007 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_137007 Saker Pup I don't proselytize often but now I'm totally compelled to post <a href="http://www.fredvanlente.com/cthulhutract/pages/" rel="nofollow">this link</a>. Come to R'lyeh: We have nightmare corpses and sky-flung monoliths. ^_^ Thu, 20 Oct 2011 00:39:02 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_137497 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_137497 kreibebe thanks for the tip. i'm delighted there's a root-system of bizarro funghi growing here. k Thu, 20 Oct 2011 05:53:09 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_139174 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_139174 bekkiii Ahhh, I love this thread. Thu, 20 Oct 2011 09:07:42 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_140503 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_140503 Saker Pup How can you not, right? I swear to god, <em>this thread</em> is the best part of waking up (fuck Folgers, they can sue me). Thu, 20 Oct 2011 11:11:37 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_141831 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_141831 TANK Ex Mortis Guys guys guys I just had the best idea and I need to tell you about it. Hold on, let me copy-paste the note I made: <em> holy shit holy shit holy shit. okay. she's obsessed with death and wants to kill everyone, right? because she's dead or whatever. but listen. she's also totes hot for her sister, which creeps _her_ out to no end, but like at the end when she actually _does_ kill everyone, or mostly everyone, it's really a happy ending because she can live happily ever after with her sister's corpse. yesssssssss what the hell is wrong with me</em> Fri, 21 Oct 2011 22:20:26 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_165101 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_165101 TANK Ex Mortis ... I think this is gonna be one of those posts I look at the next morning and say "what the hell was I thinking?" Sat, 22 Oct 2011 02:28:15 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_167268 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_167268 Saker Pup Love it... Which sort of begs the question: <em>What the hell is wrong with <strong>me</strong>?</em> You totes need to work the phrase "corpse whisperer" into your story somewhere, btw. A chapter title or something. Sat, 22 Oct 2011 02:46:12 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_167360 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_167360 TANK Ex Mortis All the chapters are named after bad translations of pretentiously-titled anime songs, but I will endeavor to work that phrase in some other way. Sat, 22 Oct 2011 13:28:15 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_171936 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_171936 manic ragdoll It's...*sob*...beautiful! Sat, 22 Oct 2011 16:05:15 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_173726 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_173726 bekkiii I love it! It's dark and twisted and ... beauuuuutiful! Sun, 23 Oct 2011 11:30:55 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_183713 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_183713 bekkiii My hypnotherapist's first shape is a human with a fish-head. Just saying. Sun, 23 Oct 2011 11:31:49 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_183726 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_183726 HunteroTheGreat I plan on writing a book in the style of Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy and The 13and 1/2 lives of Captain Bluebear. Both very good books. I don't quite know if this is what you'd call the genre mine belongs in, but it's about a Mostly Immortal guy on the quest to acquire a Perfect Sphere. Sun, 23 Oct 2011 12:53:20 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_184647 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_184647 bekkiii I think the Hitchhiker's Guide would place either here or in the Humor section, so you might be on the right track :) Sun, 23 Oct 2011 15:16:02 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_186433 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_186433 TANK Ex Mortis Hitchiker's is a bit of both, yeah; kind of absurdist humor like Monty Python. Didn't Douglas Adams write a sketch for them? Sun, 23 Oct 2011 18:46:56 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_189410 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_189410 kuyerjudd Oh, gosh, that's something I would really love to read, not just because I love epistolary novels, but also that it's weird and unusual, so much so that it's freakin' awesome! Sun, 23 Oct 2011 19:52:50 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_190323 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_190323 Saker Pup Human with a fish-head? Almost like a reverse-mermaid? Neato. I dig it. Sun, 23 Oct 2011 22:26:17 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_192486 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_192486 bekkiii I'm pretty sure he did (lazy to look it up), I think I've heard this before somewhere :) Mon, 24 Oct 2011 12:06:54 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_199331 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_199331 TANK Ex Mortis My favorite piece of Douglas Adams trivia: When he was working on Doctor Who, he introduced Richard Dawkins to his future wife, Lalla Ward. She was a companion of the fourth Doctor, Tom Baker; and she was married to Baker for a while, too. I love that, it's like the geekiest moment in the history of romance. Mon, 24 Oct 2011 14:05:38 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_201003 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_201003 evillatenighttv Does a talking tooth that give advice from time to time count as bizzaro? Mon, 24 Oct 2011 14:48:17 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_201697 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_201697 Saker Pup Sounds bizzaro to me. Agree/disagree, anyone? Mon, 24 Oct 2011 17:29:58 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_204339 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_204339 tkelson Bizarre at least Mon, 24 Oct 2011 19:23:22 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_206087 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_206087 TANK Ex Mortis Is that all that happens in the whole book? If so, that's <em>definitely</em> bizarro. There's a bizarro book about being eaten by a bear, and the entire book is the guy being eaten by a bear, and it's called "Help! A Bear is Eating Me!" I don't remember what my point was gonna be with that. Mon, 24 Oct 2011 20:38:20 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_207365 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_207365 evillatenighttv I haven't read that one, but I have heard about it. My story is changing up a bit, but the basic premise is his tooth becomes his sort of Jiminy Cricket; giving him advice about things, helping him remember names, and the occasional conversation. Tue, 25 Oct 2011 07:58:54 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_213892 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_213892 kreibebe works for me. k Tue, 25 Oct 2011 08:33:51 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_214172 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_214172 johnvincentmoon If I could write in one genre subset forever, it would be this one. Absurd/surreal/bizarro is just the best. My idea, which just came to me last night/this morning, is about a guy who wakes up in the attic of this mysterious old house with no memory of how he got there, and only a rudimentary idea of who he is. He may or may not be a prisoner there. This doesn't really trouble him too much, though, and in the style of Luis Bunuel's The Exterminating Angel he never really feels moved to make an escape attempt. His only contact is a taciturn butler who brings him food and reams of blank paper. I don't totally know where it's going, but I have a small ensemble of unrulies and a premise that I think I can stretch for 50k without getting bored. We'll see! Tue, 25 Oct 2011 11:44:20 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_216428 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_216428 kreibebe that's an idea you could run with, i think. before you mentioned bunuel's "exterminating angel", i was reminded of lovecraft's "the outsider". i'd definitely read that, given the chance. k Tue, 25 Oct 2011 12:11:57 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_216772 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_216772 johnvincentmoon Oh man, I need to read that! I just looked it up and it sounds amazing. There is a sad, gaping hole in my literary well-roundedness where Lovecraft should be. Thanks! :) Tue, 25 Oct 2011 13:13:47 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_217604 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_217604 tickyhead Just got a ton of inspiration for some crazy absurd goings on from, of all things, a Cracked article. http://www.cracked.com/article_19507_the-8-creepiest-glitches-hidden-in-popular-video-games.html Everything in there makes for good Lovecraftian horrors, if nothing else. (That Sims baby will haunt me for ages...) Tue, 25 Oct 2011 16:41:21 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_220751 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_220751 bekkiii Yep, I got the idea over in Plot Doctoring. Suited my character perfectly. She's not happy about it, but she doesn't like any of her shapes :) Tue, 25 Oct 2011 16:59:49 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_221053 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_221053 TANK Ex Mortis That sounds excellent, I totally want to read it. Reminds me a bit of Mervyn Peake's <em>Gormenghast</em> books for some reason, which I am only just starting to read so I probably shouldn't compare 'em to things, but whatever. Tue, 25 Oct 2011 18:02:46 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_222026 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_222026 TANK Ex Mortis I love the sound of it, whether it's bizarro or something else. A good rule of thumb for bizarro (which, like all such rules, doesn't always apply) is that if the primary thing you enjoy about a work is its weirdness, it's bizarro. There can be other things you like about it, but the main thing's the weirdness. It certainly sounds absurdist-y, though; maybe a bit of magic realism too. Tue, 25 Oct 2011 18:05:24 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_222073 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_222073 johnvincentmoon Dude, that is okay because I have actually never read those books and they are totally still influencing this idea. I've wanted to read Gormenghast forever and although I haven't yet it still inspires half of the stories I write. Dunno what that's about. And thanks! Your idea sounds beyond awesome, by the way. I would read that in a heartbeat. Tue, 25 Oct 2011 18:32:07 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_222412 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_222412 Saker Pup [quote=johnvincentmoon]There is a sad, gaping hole in my literary well-roundedness where Lovecraft should be.[/quote] You owe it to both yourself and the world to remedy this as quickly as humanly possible. Obviously. Tue, 25 Oct 2011 19:29:40 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_223220 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_223220 Saker Pup The Sims baby: That. Is. Oh my god, I don't even know. I'd like to see a coming-of-age novel with one of those kids as the protag, though. The awkward fumbling first romance scene would be just made of pure and complete win beyond anything else I can quite imagine (or articulate, apparently (ha)). Also? The <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nzIg443fbs" rel="nofollow">disembodied heads fucking</a>. Wow. Amusing glitch. Totally. Tue, 25 Oct 2011 19:41:17 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_223425 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_223425 tickyhead The best part about the disembodied heads is that after copulation they spontaneously grow bodies. Imagine using <em>that</em> as a plot point. "Gasp! I've been beheaded! Quick, screw me so I can grow another body." "What." "You heard me." Tue, 25 Oct 2011 23:54:31 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_224994 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_224994 Saker Pup Oh god, I had pretty much exactly the same train of thought after watching that but it was all mooshed up in my head and I couldn't get it to come out right... You pretty much nailed it though, totally. Wed, 26 Oct 2011 02:20:10 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_226171 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_226171 kreibebe not just yourself and the world, but the entire fabric of space/time, if i'm being honest! k Wed, 26 Oct 2011 08:36:11 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_228651 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_228651 kreibebe that has to be the best chat-up line i've ever heard! (did it work?) k Wed, 26 Oct 2011 08:37:23 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_228663 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_228663 TANK Ex Mortis They're pretty great so far. I'm about 20 pages into the first book, and I'd heartily recommend those 20 pages. You could always watch the BBC miniseries if you don't have time to read 1,000 pages of vaguely surreal Gothic ennui. I haven't seen it yet, but it has Christopher Lee so it has to be good. And thanks right back, sir; I'm gratified we both have an audience for our books, even if the audience might only be one person. Wed, 26 Oct 2011 08:48:54 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_228784 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_228784 TANK Ex Mortis God, those cars in San Andreas creeped the hell out of me. They always had all these gashes down the side like some huge animal with giant claws had attacked them and eaten the passengers. Wed, 26 Oct 2011 08:53:46 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_228828 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_228828 kreibebe i'd recommend the mini-series heartily. christopher lee, jonathan rhys myers, etc. it's excellent - oh, any it ends at the end of book 2. the third book's a bit of a waste of time to be honest. k Wed, 26 Oct 2011 10:12:00 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_229790 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_229790 johnvincentmoon Heh, I am actually a lady and not a sir. But A) I willfully chose to give myself an unambiguously male username and B) I am occasionally mistaken for a boy in real life, so I recognize this is not apparent and I also don't really care. But I'm not in the practice of willfully deceiving people, especially when they are being all complimentary and stuff. The name John Vincent Moon actually comes from a story by Jorge Luis Borges, who is my FAVORITE, and I recommend him if to everyone who might not be familiar with him. ANYWAY, agreed. Potential audiences are what makes the world go round. Wed, 26 Oct 2011 10:24:58 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_229973 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_229973 TANK Ex Mortis Well, as a dude who started a thread on surreal literature, I only have myself to blame if I haven't read enough Borges. Where would you recommend I start? Wed, 26 Oct 2011 19:20:34 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_238677 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_238677 johnvincentmoon Well, you could go chronologically and read his poetry and move into his prose, but if poetry's not your gig, I would just get yourself a prose collection. He never wrote anything longer than ten pages or so, and they're all together in different books. Ficciones, translated by Anthony Kerrigan, is the first set and my personal favorite translation (I don't know Spanish, I just tend to like Kerrigan's choices the best), and that includes several of my favorites -- Circular Ruins, The Library of Babel, Funes The Memorious, The Shape/Form of the Sword (that's where my monicker comes from), Death and the Compass, The Secret Miracle... etc. Other good collections are The Aleph, Dreamtigers, The Book of Sand... If you want to be really thorough, Collected Fictions translated by Andrew Hurley, is the way to go. I don't like all of his translation choices compared to some of the other work I've seen, but I'm possibly really nitpicky about that kind of thing. It's all gorgeous. Weirdly, I was introduced to Borges in a math class specifically designed around the mathematical influence in his work. Math and I have never gotten along, but that was definitely the best class I ever took. Wed, 26 Oct 2011 20:06:06 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_239373 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_239373 TANK Ex Mortis Thanks for the recs, I don't get on with poetry so I'll check out Ficciones. I have a vague memory of getting it from the library when I was a teenager, but I think I had to return it before I'd got past the introduction... I'm a slow reader sometimes. Wed, 26 Oct 2011 21:50:50 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_241065 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_241065 Saker Pup [quote=TANK Ex Mortis]God, those cars in San Andreas creeped the hell out of me. They always had all these gashes down the side like some huge animal with giant claws had attacked them and eaten the passengers.[/quote] ^ This sort of thing is exactly why I like your version of reality better than real reality. Wed, 26 Oct 2011 22:22:10 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_241549 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_241549 TANK Ex Mortis Well at the time I was spending a lot of time riding around the forest on a motorbike looking for Bigfoot (and in the game), 'cause a bunch of people on some San Andreas forums had convinced me he'd been hidden there. So my mind was on big creepy animals. But yeah, I like my reality more too. Thu, 27 Oct 2011 12:33:41 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_249102 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_249102 Saker Pup The funniest part about this? I grew up in Montana; I'm living there again now. So when you mentioned looking for Bigfoot, I didn't even blink. Then when I hit the clarification, that actually threw me for a second while my head made the leap from "normal around here" to "regular normal." (I'm really not crazy, I promise, I'm just used dealing with really crazy shit.) Thu, 27 Oct 2011 15:45:48 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_252039 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_252039 TANK Ex Mortis Well I wouldn't take my motorbike cryptid hunting IRL, that's just crazy. Jersey Devils are notoriously skittish around engine noise. Thu, 27 Oct 2011 16:39:49 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_252929 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_252929 tickyhead I live in Santa Cruz, California. We have our own damn Bigfoot <em>museum.</em> I didn't even realize hunting for Bigfoot wasn't a normal thing until you mentioned it. :[ Thu, 27 Oct 2011 20:40:34 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_256087 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_256087 Saker Pup Oh, no, no: it's totally normal. It's just the other 47 or so states that don't know what the fuck they're talking about... Fri, 28 Oct 2011 12:11:51 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_265157 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_265157 bekkiii This. Cracked. Me. Up. Sat, 29 Oct 2011 05:31:40 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_278267 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_278267 mystickelf I've read this thread not once or twice but three times :D And I followed some of the links. I think this is hilarious. OK, I don't know if my book is gonna fit in here or not but I sure love reading about this genre. I'm thinking of doing a channeled novel...but not a serious one. My female MC channels the spirit of a snarky deceased dragon who fills her in about the Other Side which he states is nothing more than a huge bureaucracy. Long hours, no pay (except for props), very little advancement --which he keeps screwing up. He is on the bottom rung there once again and is also lacking anyone decent to talk to so he channels through her for his own entertainment. When she channels him he has her flapping her arms and eat crazy crap he wants to eat and stuff like that. I don't know much more than that yet. And not sure if it fits in here or not but thats what I'm going with. Sat, 29 Oct 2011 13:58:17 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_284291 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_284291 Saker Pup Than make it fit. ;) Sat, 29 Oct 2011 19:21:31 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_288761 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_288761 bekkiii I don't know if you intend it to be but this just sounds hilarious. I would totally read your novel :D Sun, 30 Oct 2011 06:25:38 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_294739 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_294739 TANK Ex Mortis I dig the sound of it. I think the proof of the weirdness will be in the novel pudding. Which would make a fucking terrible pudding. Unless we're talking about British pudding, which seems to just mean "food" over there, I so don't get that word. Mon, 31 Oct 2011 02:12:36 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_315857 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_315857 Slappos Also reminds me of the Marquis de Sade in prison. Haha! Mon, 31 Oct 2011 09:13:54 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_320918 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_320918 Slappos This is totally my topic (I posted in this forum and in the fantasy forum about The New Weird, which is applicable). My story is about a 28-year-old heroin addict in search of his 77-year-old daughter, a giant lamp that acts as sun and moon, a cynical melting wax man, what happened to Ambrose Bierce after disappearing in Mexico, grindcore lounge music, a drug-dealing lizard, and a graffiti artist who writes tags in languages he doesn't speak. That's a bit of it, at least. Mon, 31 Oct 2011 09:14:29 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_320928 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_320928 TANK Ex Mortis I wrote a poem in French once, which I don't speak. It kinda sucked. I like the sound of your story though! And I'm totally baffled why New Weird would be in Fantasy, but there you go. Mon, 31 Oct 2011 10:42:57 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_322876 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_322876 bekkiii Slappos, that sounds just wonderful. Any scene with the cynical melting wax man I demand to read. Mon, 31 Oct 2011 14:42:06 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_329122 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_329122 sweet pandamonium I've always wanted to write a Kingdom Hearts fanfic with use of Lewis Carroll themes and stylistics, but I never felt like I could pull it off properly. Maybe I could add elements of his style in my current story, that would be cool :) Thank you for the suggestion. And yes, I love his design in Kingdom Hearts I. Mon, 31 Oct 2011 14:44:53 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_329190 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_329190 Slappos Haha, thanks. Done and done. Tue, 01 Nov 2011 02:37:27 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_345382 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_345382 TANK Ex Mortis So I'm curious - y'all write about weird things, but do you write it weirdly? That is to say, is your prose as strange as your subjects? I don't think it's inherently better or worse to work in experimental prose - Kafka wrote (or was translated into) perfectly straightforward prose - I'd just like to hear what you guys do. Me, I tend to write somewhere between stream-of-consciousness and self-consciously "poetic" prose. My prose idols are Jack Kerouac and <a href="www.amazon.com/Deadheart-Shelters-Forrest-Armstrong/dp/1933929049/" rel="nofollow">Forrest Armstrong</a>: [quote=Forrest Armstrong]This is how I remember what got me here. I hum my mind into a soundproof place, a gun-dark ocean with cardboard skies. I rewind it back to when I could feel the world on me like ant limbs. [/quote] Tue, 01 Nov 2011 03:02:49 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_345714 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_345714 Slappos I definitely intend to put an experimental spin on my style. I share the Jack Kerouac influence, but I would have to say William S. Burroughs' Naked Lunch has a much more profound impact on the "cadence" of my writing. Tue, 01 Nov 2011 03:11:58 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_345848 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_345848 TANK Ex Mortis I still haven't read Naked Lunch, I've been wading through Junky but it's kind of... Slow. Tue, 01 Nov 2011 04:05:30 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_346585 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_346585 kreibebe ach, junky's just a sort of "what we did on our holidays" book. shot through with fragments of genius &amp; humour, but "naked lunch" is sheer genius from start to finish. which reminds me - i must read it yet again. k Tue, 01 Nov 2011 04:54:45 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_347296 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_347296 Saker Pup [quote=TANK Ex Mortis]is your prose as strange as your subjects?[/quote] God no. For me, weird is in the details. This isn't to say that others don't do it better in different amounts. Hell, I adore stories that are presented like hallucinatory dreamscapes complete with their own contexts, concepts and vocabularies; I just suck at writing them--too literal-minded to successfully construct my own logic. I will never be mistaken for a poet. Which doesn't matter anyway 'cause I much prefer the image of a slightly-unhinged researcher constantly running strange experiments. Of words. Or something. Tue, 01 Nov 2011 04:55:16 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_347304 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_347304 TANK Ex Mortis Glad to hear it, I'll try and pick it up. Tue, 01 Nov 2011 07:21:19 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_349749 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_349749 CassyDK Don't know if I belong here either, but I am absolutely fascinated with New Weird and Bizzaro, love Gaiman (although I think he is a bit light) and Mieville! My own novel will be a more fantasy/adventure take on the Hitchhickers guide complete with aliens wiping out the planet with their space-ships who are so big that orbiting around earth blocks out the sun. MC is set to be a drunk 40-something dude who is randomly chosen to travel through time and space (in a pink spaceshuttle) to put together a group of people to save Earth, there including a firethrowing witch + her drunk witchhunter and many more. Oh and did I mention that the aliens also have giant robots that kill the surviving people of earth, but can only view the world in boxes, so as long as you are in a closed room with no open doors they can't find you. Yeah like I said I am genre confused, but I will stick around on this forum at least to see what other people come up with! Tue, 01 Nov 2011 07:43:37 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_350200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_350200 bekkiii My stories are always told as kind of tradtional he-went-here-and-did-that-and-said-this stories, it's the content that is mostly weird. For instance I am on page 6 now and my MC Madeline has found a shipwreck on a beach inside her head, chasing a sailor who isn't really a sailor, accompanied by her hypnotist the Doctor who has the face of a ball-angler fish and floats around instead of walks. Tue, 01 Nov 2011 11:44:00 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_355701 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_355701 Saker Pup [quote=bekkiii]found a shipwreck on a beach inside her head, chasing a sailor[/quote] I can totally relate to this. Tue, 01 Nov 2011 12:55:11 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_356957 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_356957 manic ragdoll I felt as though you lot would appreciate this...just returned from this incident...had to share... I was descending towards the Lobby from the 11th when an older gent, salt and pepper hair and a distinct rasp, entered and inquired as to whether any of the numerous pins adorning my from were "dem Obama pins." I politely informed him that no, I was not an advocate of Obama. I then proceeded to show him my "Cthulhu 2012" pin and explain that I was not voting for the lesser evil. He stared for a bit before asking "Well...is that...Obama-like? 'Cause I don't much like Obama..." I politely stated that no, Cthulhu was nothing like Obama...Cthulhu was an Elder God with a propensity for rendering insanity upon our meager minds. The gent jammed his finger into the button for the closest floor, and fled, kind of like a prepubescent girl fleeing from a rapist. Yeah...sort of like that. Meet such interesting people in elevators... Tue, 01 Nov 2011 15:33:25 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_361798 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_361798 Saker Pup I more than adore you. Tue, 01 Nov 2011 15:39:25 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_362008 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_362008 Saker Pup Okay kids, I too have a bizarre story to share (this is the sort of thing I get involved in if I leave the house, which explains a lot actually): I've been up all day on next to no sleep (and no excuse). Everything started to get the way everything gets when you do that--if you don't know what I'm talking about, I totally can't explain it to you, sorry--and the worst of it hit while I was out to dinner with my grandma and txting with a friend. I told him that I'd had not enough sleep and everything was starting to feel shaky, so he comes back with "Just narwhal the shuffles and you'll be translucent." The sad part is that I actually stared at my phone screen for way too long waiting for that to finally penetrate my brain and make sense. But it never did. And then he just kept going with it. Another gem from this exchange: "Shimmering cord data replicates fondness?" That sentence honestly strikes me as so aurally pretty that I swear to fuck I will find a way to work it into... well, not my NaNo novel but, you know, something... someday... No... wait... I should just write <em>my entire nano novel in pretty nonsense that is a terrible plan i need sleep.</em> Tue, 01 Nov 2011 22:55:36 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_377336 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_377336 faerieclare I love this! All of this! I'm writing a surrealist novel. I've wanted to do one for a few years now. The idea being that it comes out of the subconscious or my dreams. I never know what I'm going to write or dream, but it goes in there anyway. The surrealist writers and painters worked this way. They also used automatic drawing (ie from the subconscious, without intervention from the rational mind) and word games for inspiration, so I'll get on that train when I get stuck. So far I just have a city on fire and a woman who lives in a tree and is about to take her daughter on an adventure to find 'the source' Hopefully when I get to 50,000 words I'll be able to arrange it all into a plot. O and there's a hermit who is leaving behind his imaginary friends to follow a wind-up toy bus. I'm having a crisis in my own art so hopefully I'll find my muse or an artistic purpose lurking in my subconscious - I mean it's all got to be about something, right? I'm thinking about the symbolism and disjointedness of Leautreamont and Naked Lunch, for stlye. But my head is full of children's toys, fairy tales and shiny things, so the content may be a little different... xxfaeriexx Wed, 02 Nov 2011 06:12:14 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_385212 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_385212 TANK Ex Mortis I love everything about this post, your book sounds absolutely wonderful. I hope you find what you're looking for. Wed, 02 Nov 2011 06:33:25 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_385554 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_385554 TANK Ex Mortis My novel is about 70% pretty nonsense so far, so that sounds fine to me. Vaguley related: the way Carlton Mellick writes a book (or used to, I think he does this less now) is he picks up a few books from his shelf, flips to a random page and writes down the first word he sees. He does the same thing a few times with other books until he has a list of words, then he arranges the words until he has a title he likes, and then he writes the book. Hence stuff like <em>Electric Jesus Corpse</em> and <em>Steel Breakfast Era</em>. Wed, 02 Nov 2011 06:38:42 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_385648 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_385648 TANK Ex Mortis If you're here, you <em>must</em> belong. Welcome! Wed, 02 Nov 2011 06:39:43 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_385664 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_385664 CassyDK Your idea sounds absolutely wonderful and I am sure you will be able to fill your 50 k. I might try your idea next year as I seem to be lucky in being able to develop stories while I sleep at the moment! Wed, 02 Nov 2011 06:54:17 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_385900 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_385900 manic ragdoll I feel as though you are quoting one of my Rosalynne sequences...she essentially communicates through disjointed flashbacks written in that style (Flash flash, neon nurse croon...sterile scalpel stench memories…electro-hell bent on perma-jack aborticide…automaton scraping of skin unsoiled by th-their world…glitch out madness, cradle mind, sting numbness…profane rancor, lethargic acrimony…fell fine…feel fine…felt fine…feel sublime…shutter close…like bionic butterfly flap…) Pretty nonsense has a place...and is rather invigorating to both write and read. Wed, 02 Nov 2011 12:25:55 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_394192 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_394192 manic ragdoll That's brilliant...I eagerly anticipate reading an excerpt or two or all of it...preferably the latter. Wed, 02 Nov 2011 12:26:32 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_394207 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_394207 Saker Pup Yes, once you post to this thread, you belong to us. It is compulsory. Wed, 02 Nov 2011 15:35:27 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_400381 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_400381 Saker Pup [quote=faerieclare]my head is full of children's toys, fairy tales and shiny things[/quote] Please post a longer excerpt when you get a chance. I would very much like to visit your head. Wed, 02 Nov 2011 15:40:35 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_400574 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_400574 Saker Pup <em>Omfgpointlessfascinatingtrivia!</em> I think I just forgot algebra to find a place for that... However, it's not like I was ever going to use algebra anyway and the thing that replaced it can pass for a useful skill in some circles (more specifically, in this circle). Wed, 02 Nov 2011 15:45:14 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_400756 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_400756 Saker Pup My brain is trying so, so hard to make sense of "perma-jack aborticide." I think I need to get back to writing cyberpunk--not that I was ever really any good at it but I could use phrases like that. Also adore the phrase "shutter close." That is beautiful and I will find a way to make it fit. Wed, 02 Nov 2011 15:48:42 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_400901 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_400901 TANK Ex Mortis I had to learn algebra again just so I could forget it so I could remember that piece of trivia. Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:44:24 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_402546 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_402546 TANK Ex Mortis Fresh meat! New flesh! Long live the new flesh! Death to Videodrome! Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:48:31 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_402694 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_402694 DudelRok Okay, okay... so I'm mainly calling this something along the lines of a "Parody Action Adventure" so I'm in the humor section and Adventure sections BUT the method of writing this really doesn't fit either of them properly. So I got to thinking, maybe I'm "other?" Saw this thread two or three weeks ago (whenever it was created) and debated about posting but then argued to myself I wasn't that much of a hipster to include myself in with the rest of the cool kids. (Joke!) I have your crazy stuff: alking spiders, a guy who's face was split down the middle with an axe when he was a child by his "Brudda" but he's cool with it... as well as oddly colored pirate ships (bright blue and sparkling shiny star red complete with gold trimming!) along with some nonsensical dialog that exists simply for cheap giggles. Got Flying robots, and light sabers (but don't call them light sabers), with Elizabethan Pirate ships and a french guy calling himself White-Beard Two-Pegs, who's got both his legs and shaves regular... but he does have a nice white and fluffy wig. So I'm pretty sure absurdism is where I'm at in the whole "genre area." Especially since my nonsense doesn't seem to fit anywhere else. O.o Wed, 02 Nov 2011 20:03:08 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_410038 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_410038 Nadia Honestly I have no fucking idea what my novel is. I just wanted something darker and less comfortable than the young adult type speculative fiction I'm normally into. I haven't done nano for 3 years and I've been through a lot. I wanted to explore the idea of an unnamed narrator because my first page was just me mouthing off in my own head. But I can already feel the steam running out. I don't know how something this solipsistic can possibly sustain itself into a full story. It's important that I get to use my plotting to work out my issues, but the book isn't actually supposed to be ME. I still need to have the flexibility that comes from know I'm the one making everything up. Help? Wed, 02 Nov 2011 20:56:25 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_411977 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_411977 Saker Pup Now I get to add "Watched <em>Videodrome</em> for the first time" to my ever-expanding List of Things I Did Today When I Should Have Been Writing My NaNo Novel. I hope you're happy... Wed, 02 Nov 2011 21:54:18 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_413942 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_413942 Saker Pup Help... um... Okay, try this: Start with what actually happened but don't restrict yourself to the truth. Have a boyfriend you didn't like? Shove a fucking knife through his face to settle an arguement. Don't worry about it if he needs to show up again later, just let him come back with a little bandage holding the wound closed. Things like that. Wed, 02 Nov 2011 22:12:53 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_414619 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_414619 faerieclare Which British people have *you* been talking to? Pudding is sugary yumness that comes after the boring healthy part of the meal. Mmm Wed, 02 Nov 2011 23:16:20 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_416708 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_416708 faerieclare Haha yes! You had me at cynical melting wax man! xx Wed, 02 Nov 2011 23:17:56 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_416763 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_416763 faerieclare Gorgeous! I hope I write just one line that beautiful. (well I hope I write *every* line that beautiful) now, now icarus, back in your box! Wed, 02 Nov 2011 23:20:12 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_416821 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_416821 faerieclare [quote=CassyDK] can only view the world in boxes, so as long as you are in a closed room with no open doors they can't find you. [/quote] Love it Wed, 02 Nov 2011 23:24:02 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_416929 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_416929 faerieclare Wow! Thanxx Wed, 02 Nov 2011 23:26:12 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_416982 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_416982 faerieclare Eee thanxx. Writing at 3 am today cos of a dream, might make the day go a liiiiittle weird, but dreams are good idea spinners! Wed, 02 Nov 2011 23:27:45 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_417023 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_417023 faerieclare Oo heehee thanx for the encouragement!! Wed, 02 Nov 2011 23:28:43 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_417054 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_417054 faerieclare Manymanythanx as my gentlemanly bro would say (he's a dear chap) Hmm Yes, the words have gone all out of grammar, which is the bit I like with automatic writing: And what can be seen outside? A hulking grey=brown shape, some structure with bars around it? Or scaffold? If I write forever will you soup me? If I spring into your tree will you cast me out? I cannot help to bounce, I cannot joy when the world is without ice-cream. I cannot travel over there, the thread is too strong. I must watch from outside, but I will have your discarded words. Wed, 02 Nov 2011 23:32:30 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_417152 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_417152 faerieclare [quote=DudelRok] oddly colored pirate ships (bright blue and sparkling shiny star red complete with gold trimming!) [/quote] I want one for my Christmas tree! Wed, 02 Nov 2011 23:34:07 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_417190 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_417190 maarow [quote=Saker Pup] 'kay, technically I claim horror as my genre 'cause horror has my heart but I think this year I'll wind up doing something between Bizarro and Absurdist with an erotic-horror twist. It's about a mermaid who wants a soul, a serial killer who was born without a heart--literally--and an ex-surfer girl who's afraid to go back in the water. There will be sharks. There will be sex. (Shark sex? Likely.) Blood, viscera, mutilation, torture and grotesques damage of every sort I can conceive of. And there'll probably be a nihilistic bent to the whole thing as I've been feeling rather nihilistic lately. It's gonna be fun. [/quote] Sounds like a Caitlin Kiernan novel. Thu, 03 Nov 2011 01:17:06 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_419655 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_419655 maarow I want to read that. Thu, 03 Nov 2011 01:18:53 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_419683 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_419683 sshank [Removed for self Promotion] Also, I am writing something quite surreal that I hope will end up being somewhat absurd as well. But kind of literary, as well. Like The Unconsoled, or anything by Borges, Auster, Calvino, Beckett, or Kafka. Thu, 03 Nov 2011 03:03:09 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_421126 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_421126 sshank I love Borges. I don't even know what more to say... but I just love anyone who loves Borges. Thu, 03 Nov 2011 03:09:56 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_421221 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_421221 Saker Pup I... choose to take that as a compliment. I adore the fuck out of her. Thu, 03 Nov 2011 03:19:08 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_421321 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_421321 CassyDK Thank you Clare. It actually came out of a dream or should I say nightmare as I was there in the mall being chased by robots with giant heads. Thu, 03 Nov 2011 09:03:27 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_426165 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_426165 CassyDK That sounds awesome. I do usually stick to writing short bizarro stories, because 50k of them would make my head explode. So if you can still use that for your blog I am so on! Thu, 03 Nov 2011 09:07:15 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_426266 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_426266 Nadia I had this idea that my MC would be caught in some kind of loop. She'd wake up to the same day and everything back the way it was before, no matter what she did. And maybe use some lucid dreaming type techniques to influence what's going on around her? I just read the rest of the posts here and the stories have so much more going on than just one person hiding in their room. I'm really out of my element when it comes to writing anything other than "he went there and did that" kind of fiction. I also didn't really have much of a plan going into this either. Sheeit. Thu, 03 Nov 2011 09:53:29 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_427407 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_427407 TANK Ex Mortis Is it? Explain black and white puddings, then. Or red pudding, which I just discovered, and simply learning about it is making my arteries harden and weep. Thu, 03 Nov 2011 10:08:14 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_427752 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_427752 TANK Ex Mortis I like your lucid dreaming idea, that sounds like it could be pretty interesting. The nice thing about weird fiction is that just because a bunch of people are writing one thing - i.e. most of us here may be doing something vaguely plot-centered - that doesn't preclude you from writing something totally different. In fact, I'd say that if a lot of people are writing weird fiction the same way, it's <em>necessary</em> for folks to come in and shake things up. Stability and predictability are the arch-enemies of weirdness. Thu, 03 Nov 2011 10:18:00 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_427976 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_427976 TANK Ex Mortis Yeah, that book is kind of my gold standard for beautiful lines. The whole book is like that. Like, I just flipped to a random page (I keep The Deadheart Shelters on my desk for inspiration, naturally) and found this: [quote=Forrest Armstrong]In the dark we could see him shuddering because it made the dark shudder too.[/quote] Y'all should <a href="www.amazon.com/Deadheart-Shelters-Forrest-Armstrong/dp/1933929049/" rel="nofollow">go buy the book</a>, it's small press and the author could use your support. Did I mention that he was like 20 when he wrote it and he's also an <a href="soundcloud.com/gasoline-monk" rel="nofollow">amazing DJ</a>? He's what I want to be when I grow up, only he's younger than me. Thu, 03 Nov 2011 10:23:52 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_428126 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_428126 TANK Ex Mortis Crap, the URLs got mangled in my post, but here are the links: The book: www.amazon.com/Deadheart-Shelters-Forrest-Armstrong/dp/1933929049/ The guy's Soundcloud page where you can listen to his music: soundcloud.com/gasoline-monk Thu, 03 Nov 2011 10:25:39 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_428179 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_428179 Nadia I've got a lot of developing to do in my head with this idea, but I'm liking it now. Good thing I have a long car ride scheduled for this afternoon. :P Thu, 03 Nov 2011 10:28:28 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_428259 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_428259 TANK Ex Mortis Thanks for posting the link! It's always nice for people to have an outlet for this stuff. I think one of the folks on the Bizarro Central boards - maybe Ash Lomen, not sure - has a similar blog for bizarro poetry and flash fiction. Thu, 03 Nov 2011 10:33:39 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_428387 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_428387 TANK Ex Mortis I so am, and I bet you are too. That movie rocks. Thu, 03 Nov 2011 10:43:19 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_428633 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_428633 TANK Ex Mortis Have you read any slipstream? I haven't, but your ideas remind me of the descriptions of slipstream I've read. That's probably a totally worthless thing to say, isn't it? Thu, 03 Nov 2011 10:46:39 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_428721 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_428721 sshank definitely! Thu, 03 Nov 2011 14:52:24 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_435489 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_435489 sshank that's really awesome. I am not much of an internet user, so I don't know about such things. I am definitely going to look up the bizarro central boards and see what i can find out! Thanks! Thu, 03 Nov 2011 14:53:08 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_435510 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_435510 Saker Pup I am and it does. Thu, 03 Nov 2011 16:24:01 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_438578 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_438578 Saker Pup [quote=TANK Ex Mortis]That's probably a totally worthless thing to say, isn't it?[/quote] Not at all. You reminded me that slipstream exists. I used to be really into that genre and I don't know how I forgot about it. Aimee Bender's <em>Willful Creatures</em> is a truly amazing short story collection and a good place to start. <strong>DudelRok</strong>:A lot of what makes slipstream is the tone of it but just from your ideas, I'd say you totally sound like <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slipstream_(genre)" rel="nofollow">slipstream</a>. (I almost feel bad linking to that article 'cause it's so damn short and not very helpful...) Thu, 03 Nov 2011 16:33:38 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_438897 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_438897 mystickelf Thanks everyone for your comments! Just an update... I'm really beginning to wish I had something of a plan going into this. I've started and restarted mine like 4 times. Was really getting hung up on how I was gonna format this or whatever. What I got now is 2 characters --one in the Slow Lane (Earth) and one on The Other Side ..each keeping their own journal. The one in the Slow Lane is gonna channel the other one and the focal point will be the meeting of their separate journals. Thats gonna be the bridge. So I got them making entries back and forth...the one on the Other Side is privy to her entries and is about ready to come through her. I don't really know what I'm doing. And I'm not exactly a writer --kinda write like poo. But hopefully I won't have to restart again. And I have a chick lit novel started on the side. I hope I wind up with something at the end of Nano lol. Maybe I should just go eat pudding :D Thu, 03 Nov 2011 17:02:42 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_439892 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_439892 mystickelf I think this is great -- it sounds stream of consciousness. The first year I did Nano I did that. And I try to start that way. Your woman in the tree sounds like something I'd really love to read about. And gotta love your hermit and the wind up toy bus :D Thu, 03 Nov 2011 17:08:10 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_440071 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_440071 mystickelf hehe I love it! Keep going, I wish I could hang out at your shipwreck beach! Thu, 03 Nov 2011 17:14:48 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_440292 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_440292 DudelRok [quote=Saker Pup]<strong>DudelRok</strong>:A lot of what makes slipstream is the tone of it but just from your ideas, I'd say you totally sound like <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slipstream_(genre)" rel="nofollow">slipstream</a>. (I almost feel bad linking to that article 'cause it's so damn short and not very helpful...) [/quote] Hey, hey, hey! That whole "conflicting ideas" thing is pretty much spot on! Take into account a little cognitive dissonance (rather, a lot) and you got my favorite way of writing. That's it, I found my genre! [quote=Wikipedia]The term slipstream was coined by cyberpunk author Bruce Sterling in an article originally published in SF Eye #5, July 1989. He wrote: "...this is a kind of writing which simply makes you feel very strange; the way that living in the twentieth century makes you feel, if you are a person of a certain sensibility."[/quote] That mentality, especially. ...do I weep now? I'm not sure the rules for this sudden realization. Though tone might be a bit sketchy, I did leave an excerpt of my first "Episode" on my profile if anyone is interested... but Slipstream seams a lot closer than anything else. Thanks for the link, Saker Pup! A now go at my NaNo with a happy smile, and slightly less dread. Enough dread to keep me frightened, but not enough to scare me off altogether. Thu, 03 Nov 2011 17:42:37 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_441262 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_441262 DudelRok Nothing is worthless, however somethings are worth less. Thu, 03 Nov 2011 17:43:24 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_441290 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_441290 DudelRok Well I have a world populated with all kinds of sparkly and shiny things, so there's plenty to go around. Though now I have a very strange idea. Ship... meet giant tree! Hmm... Thu, 03 Nov 2011 17:44:40 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_441321 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_441321 DudelRok Who says he has to heal? He can stay alive and just be horribly scared for the rest of his life. It's kind of fun to think of a guy walking around with a knife embedded in his face from 30 years ago. He's totally fine, it's just one of those things that makes people go "O.O!" Thu, 03 Nov 2011 17:47:00 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_441397 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_441397 Saker Pup Okay, I just Googled all that and it is... disgusting? Is that the word I want? I think it is... (I know, I know: I'm a stupid, close-minded American girl but still... ew... that just all sounds... awful.) Worth noting though: red and white pudding are popular in Scotland, so maybe you got your info from Scottish British people? And from, like, a language/definition perspective(?), I can see how pudding and sausage are similar concepts but I totally get (and am also experiencing) your general confusion on this topic. And I know I might lose my Goth Card for posting this on a public forum but... <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_pudding" rel="nofollow">black pudding</a>? <em>Oh dear sweet jesus god no--just... no.</em> Thu, 03 Nov 2011 18:19:04 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_442466 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_442466 Saker Pup Yay, I am helping. And I like your excerpt btw, you've got something good going there. (Go Team Cognitive Dissonance!) Thu, 03 Nov 2011 18:27:21 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_442737 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_442737 Saker Pup I didn't say <em>heal</em>. The mental image I had was a huge gaping wound, clotted-not-bleeding, held mostly-shut with a couple of strategically-placed Band Aids (or maybe butterfly stitches, if you want something that makes a pretty word-picture). Actually, this wound might work better if placed over the heart: physical damage that alludes to the emotional. Okay, now I think maybe I'm going to use this for one of my ghosts; it could work perfectly. Thu, 03 Nov 2011 18:36:05 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_443048 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_443048 TANK Ex Mortis I totally did that with my protagonist; she walks around with a sword in her chest for most of the book. Thu, 03 Nov 2011 20:17:01 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_446103 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_446103 Saker Pup Niiice. Good to know that even though my idea is less than original it's at least less than original within the standard deviations of a group that typically deviates from the standards. Thu, 03 Nov 2011 20:27:44 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_446440 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_446440 manic ragdoll The phrasing within that post was ever so pleasant to read aloud :D Thank you for that...brightened my mood after that horrid thing I was forced to attend...some Ralph Waldo Emerson wannabe poet reading before a group of estranged college students...terribly sorry, but I don't give a genetically adulterated rat's ass about nature poetry. It's been done before. As in by everyone. Everywhere. Whether as a Medieval Bard or as a 3rd Grader forced to write an acrostic, it has been done, goddammit. At least make it original..."marshmallow puffs and rolling waves of green..." Yes, yes, goddammit...we get it...clouds and hills...same metaphor every goddamn time, you insufferable blokebangingtwatbuggingnarcissi. Gagh. /terminate rant. /Post_script: Once again...thank you. Both for enduring that and providing melt-mint poetic prose. Thu, 03 Nov 2011 20:48:29 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_447073 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_447073 TANK Ex Mortis Hold on, I have to go rewrite my first paragraph's marshmallow metaphor. :( Thu, 03 Nov 2011 22:53:20 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_450789 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_450789 manic ragdoll It's okay...because your blackhead metaphor inspired me while I was writing to a prospective publishing connection (it's in my about me description...quite appreciative, verily!)...also, you went a step further with the s'mores, and thus it is no longer floundering in a vat of rampant insipidity. Thu, 03 Nov 2011 23:17:19 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_451463 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_451463 Saker Pup [quote=manic ragdoll]The phrasing within that post was ever so pleasant to read aloud :D[/quote] Seriously? I actually got lost towards the end and was like <em>wait does this even make any sense? fuck it. even if it doesn't at all, it will fit here. *submit*</em> And the main problem with nature poetry (besides being boring as all fuck) is that the boring is actually encouraged. No one is ever pressed to split their head wide open and find an original analogy. Clouds are always <em>like marshmallows</em> or <em>cotton</em> or <em>popcorn</em>, they are never <em>like the last girl I was with, her cigarette smoke curling around us both while we sat in her car and waited for the rain to stop so we could go inside.</em> Fri, 04 Nov 2011 00:18:05 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_452857 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_452857 manic ragdoll Precisely! We need to inject the system with a trojan virus containing metaphors. There was a preemptive, mandatory meeting with the poet prior to the reading (I'm in Poetry 213 or something...) and the poet requested that I provide my opinion of the writing process. I responded that writing is much like giving birth, in that one is inseminated with inspiration and external stimuli which eventually develops into something worthy of pushing into the world. Often it is a natural birth, however in some cases the head is not visible and it must be forced out through a C-sec. ...she stared for what I approximated to be a minute before replying that she didn't "know how to respond to that...interesting...metaphor." *facepalm* The image you provide was wonderful, by the by... Fri, 04 Nov 2011 00:54:43 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_453501 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_453501 maarow I've been lurking in this thread and I might as well post. It feels like home already. Warm. Fuzzy. Home. Yay. My story is not shaping up to be quite as bizarre as many of these synopses posted herein but it doesn't quite belong anywhere else, and I am aiming for a dose of the surreal at least. So far I've got a Western setting with a psychic antihero toting around a blind demon shaped like a girl, a fortune-telling Chinese woman with a strange silent film collection who may or may not be eating the town's children, and a brothel where girls with a very special ability can be killed over and over again for the right price. I would like to introduce some more abstract concepts as the novel wears on. I really like the short stories of Joe Hill, where he will make an offhand reference to an idea that could be an awesome story on its own, and instead of developing it, just continue on with his story and let it grow like a seed in the reader's mind. I normally write in the horror or dark fairy tale genre, so it's hard coming up with concepts that fit into the world of a Western, but hopefully I'll get better at it. Fri, 04 Nov 2011 02:37:28 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_455022 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_455022 DudelRok O.o The world has clouds? I tend to simply ignore such things. Who cares about clouds anyway? "The clouds were like clouds. Now shut up and don't ask questions." &lt;- Tempted to put that in my story, now. Fri, 04 Nov 2011 09:11:26 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_459964 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_459964 DudelRok That metaphor is AWESOME.XD The only thing this missed was the woman's quote-fingers for "dramatic effect." Fri, 04 Nov 2011 09:15:39 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_460053 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_460053 TANK Ex Mortis I know I say this like every time someone posts, but I love the sound of this. When you say a strange silent film collection, do you mean like, <em>Un Chien Andalou</em>, or stuff like the made-up Georges Méliès porno in Garrett Cook's <em>Archelon Ranch</em>? I like silent films. :D Fri, 04 Nov 2011 11:48:13 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_463429 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_463429 manic ragdoll "Clouds, like the exploded cortexes of covenant grunts, lay splattered across the sky." Or what you said...that is equally effective :D Fri, 04 Nov 2011 15:26:25 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_468829 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_468829 manic ragdoll I concur with TANK...it sounds intriguing...you could have Un Chien Andalou wandering about slitting eyeballs...that would be amusing... Fri, 04 Nov 2011 15:28:56 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_468903 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_468903 Saker Pup [quote=DudelRok]Who cares about clouds anyway?[/quote] Hey, "clouds" were the example given so I took it as a challenge (as I do). Challenge for you: Put some clouds in your story and incorporate a decent metaphor while doing so. They can be razor-wire clouds, slitting open the belly of the sky to send down a rain of blood onto the parched earth below (it doesn't have to make sense as long as it's pretty (yes, I consider that pretty. Shut up)). Fri, 04 Nov 2011 15:34:39 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_469072 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_469072 Saker Pup [quote=manic ragdoll]my opinion of the writing process[/quote] Love it. And that is exactly what I mean by splitting your head wide open to find something original: likening writing to birth is pretty much the standard cliche but the details you provide positively elevate it until it becomes something so much more. Also, don't *facepalm*. You were talking to a woman who apparently considers <em>clouds</em> to be the height of poetic pursuit ffs. =/ Fri, 04 Nov 2011 15:42:01 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_469304 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_469304 Saker Pup [quote=maarow]a Western setting with a psychic antihero toting around a blind demon shaped like a girl, a fortune-telling Chinese woman with a strange silent film collection who may or may not be eating the town's children, and a brothel where girls with a very special ability can be killed over and over again for the right price.[/quote] ... oh dear god... &lt;3 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 15:45:50 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_469427 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_469427 Saker Pup <strong>maarow:</strong> I just read your excerpt. I adore the fuck out of the way you start with the word <em>Meanwhile</em>--which is a fucking amazing word anyway but as a beginning, as a transition from <em>nothing</em> to <em>something else</em>... jesus. Neat trick. Seriously impressed. Fri, 04 Nov 2011 15:54:36 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_469687 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_469687 Dustin Reade I am going to write a novel about the President. A fictitious president who gets super powers after an incident involving a dead alien at Area 51. It also includes demons, and Saddam Hussein. It is going to be Bizarro, as that is all I write, but I need a title. All I have is "Super President" and I would not read a book called "Super President" so if anyone has any suggestions for a better title I am all ears. Fri, 04 Nov 2011 20:49:42 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_477320 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_477320 Dustin Reade [quote=Dustin Reade] I am going to write a novel about the President. A fictitious president who gets super powers after an incident involving a dead alien at Area 51. It also includes demons, and Saddam Hussein. It is going to be Bizarro, as that is all I write, but I need a title. All I have is "Super President" and I would not read a book called "Super President" so if anyone has any suggestions for a better title I am all ears. [/quote] Nevermind. Not gonna write this one. Just found all of my old notes and decided to write something a little darker but still just as weird. Screw this story. Fri, 04 Nov 2011 20:51:37 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_477384 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_477384 Saker Pup [quote=Dustin Reade]Nevermind. Not gonna write this one.[/quote] Whoa. You ditched your original idea faster than I did... New record. Can anyone beat 2min? Fri, 04 Nov 2011 23:26:48 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_482141 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_482141 Dustin Reade The problem is, I have a whole notebook full of novel Ideas, and I just randomly picked which one I was gonna do for this. I found a better one practically the second after I typed my first post. I have changed it twice now and have finally started on the novel. It is going to be called "Daliwood Chainsaw Massacre" and it involves chainsaws, Salvador Dali, serial killers, pulp, noir, and nudity. Should be pretty good. Sat, 05 Nov 2011 02:23:51 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_485470 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_485470 Saker Pup [quote=Dustin Reade]I have a whole notebook full of novel Ideas, and I just randomly picked which one I was gonna do for this.[/quote] I do the same thing. I had this whole thing worked out with a mermaid, a serial killer and an ex-surfer girl, then I ended up ditching it for the most vague scrap of a fragment. Wtf was I thinking? Seems to be going well so far though, so... [quote=Dustin Reade]It is going to be called "Daliwood Chainsaw Massacre" and it involves chainsaws, Salvador Dali, serial killers, pulp, noir, and nudity.[/quote] I dig it. Sat, 05 Nov 2011 02:55:33 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_485832 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_485832 DudelRok Everyone thinks it's a Christmas Tree. Nice when someone does not. Sat, 05 Nov 2011 10:05:56 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_490695 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_490695 DudelRok "The clouds were like a newborn baby, as they were loud, demanded constant attention and didn't allow anyone on board The Johnny Blue to get any sleep." Do I win? Sat, 05 Nov 2011 10:10:14 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_490784 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_490784 DudelRok I call shenanigans on "My story is not shaping up to be quite as bizarre as many of these synopses posted herein..." Shenanigans I say! Sat, 05 Nov 2011 10:13:39 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_490857 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_490857 DudelRok Okay, okay... I did that one in jest but then this popped up. [quote]Sailing the open seas always came with perils. One of the most common, the storm, now found itself hunting The Johnny Blue. The sky alive, hungry, seeking it’s next meal as it swirled high above, creating an ameba-like psudo-foot, out of wind and rain. Within it, an eagerness to engulf anything that crossed into it’s path! The clouds that this created were much like a newborn baby, as they were loud, wet, demanded constant attention and didn't allow anyone on board The Johnny Blue to get any sleep. Not but a day away from home, and already there was danger.[/quote] Sat, 05 Nov 2011 12:12:58 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_493392 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_493392 manic ragdoll Your current synopsis sounds quite intriguing...more so than the previous one :D Mine is still within the same setting, however the characters and writing style are refusing to conform to my prior ideas...everything is rebelling against me...and I love it. Sat, 05 Nov 2011 15:43:32 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_498718 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_498718 manic ragdoll For example: I never quite know what is going to be excreted onto the page...was initially debating with myself over whether it was bizarro or not...and then this slipped out (every phase is written in a slightly different style, though a few are consistent and further the plot...some are Victorian Verbosity, others Binary Helix Poetry...and then...there is this...): Sequence 01:Phase 1 Nachtmahr Cortex Actor One is playing the role of Actor Two, but Actor Two does not realize this and thus continues the role of Actor Two. Actor One disparages Actor Two, in spite of playing him and thus, in an offhand manner, disparaging himself. Actor Three plays the role of a tree, though such life is improbable in this, a land of improbability. The one playing Actor Two and the veritable Actor Two (though, it ought to be noted, the veracity of Actor One as Actor Two is difficult to dispute, as he portrays the role so very well) pay no heed to the tree, as it is likely a pretense due to its unlikely location, which makes them quite correct in their assumption as it is not in actuality a tree but, rather, Actor Three. Actor Three fails to realize their insinuation and thus continues as the tree, making Actor One the only individual in on the whole scheme due to Actor Two’s imperviousness to the fact that he is being played by Actor One. Actor Four enters, though he is in actuality not an actor at all as he never really portrays anyone but himself (this may lead one to purport that Actor Two is thus not an actor, as he is not playing anyone but being played; however, he is, in fact, an actor who is simply not in costume at the time during which this scene transpires). A black shoe, striving so very hard to be a white shoe that its status as black is made overtly obvious, munches at the not-really-an-actor Actor Four’s feet like a student loan munching at the liberal arts soul. Actor Two at last offers a rebuttal, but it is too late and Actor One slaps himself making Actor Two wince. Actor Three observes this and slaps Actor Four, who, it has been mentioned, is not an actual actor…though it seems that is no longer true as he is pretending to be an actor and is thus acting the part of an actor making him an actual actor and thus rendering his status as an actor moot because he is now what he is pretending to be and is thus no longer an actor, which makes him a sort of amoebic abstraction of what is actually happening. Actor Three’s limbs swat at air because Actor Four is not actually there and was made up by Actor Three’s mad bark mind. Actor One is having sex with Actor Two under the shadow cast by Actor Three’s magnificent trunk, but Actor Three is confused as to why Actor One is masturbating beneath him and so reaches down a helpful branch. Actor One accepts this help and continues to moan as Actor Three masturbates Actor Two. …Or, at least, this what appeared to be happening. Vladimir could never be quite sure. Sat, 05 Nov 2011 17:19:05 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_501464 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_501464 Saker Pup Fuck yes. Love it. Sat, 05 Nov 2011 17:32:58 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_501872 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_501872 maarow I love silent films as well. In fact this is the second story this year in which silent films figure heavily...in February I wrote a short story about a turn-of-the-century magician who retreated to the moon following his wife's death and projected silent films onto every available surface to simulate life around him. I haven't really worked out exactly what the contents of the woman's silent film collection are--another one of those "I'll figure it out when I get there" elements. Didn't really do a lot of preparation. But the concept of Melies porn is quite fascinating. Looks like Archelon Ranch just got added to my "to read" list. Sat, 05 Nov 2011 17:33:53 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_501900 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_501900 Saker Pup [quote=DudelRok]Shenanigans I say![/quote] Whoa, you're right. I got distracted by "may or may not be eating the town's children" and I didn't even catch that... Sat, 05 Nov 2011 17:35:43 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_501965 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_501965 maarow [quote=manic ragdoll] I concur with TANK...it sounds intriguing...you could have Un Chien Andalou wandering about slitting eyeballs...that would be amusing... [/quote] Ha...I should at least work in one eyeball-slitting. I'm already thinking about a character who uses a straight razor as a weapon so it shouldn't be too much of a stretch to get there. Sat, 05 Nov 2011 17:39:01 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_502049 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_502049 Saker Pup <em>Babble babble bitch bitch / Rebel rebel party party / Sex sex sex and don't forget the "violence"</em> Sorry. Pay me no mind. My head is full of loud music and twisted plot-lines right now... Sat, 05 Nov 2011 17:41:21 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_502117 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_502117 maarow [quote=Saker Pup] <strong>maarow:</strong> I just read your excerpt. I adore the fuck out of the way you start with the word <em>Meanwhile</em>--which is a fucking amazing word anyway but as a beginning, as a transition from <em>nothing</em> to <em>something else</em>... jesus. Neat trick. Seriously impressed. [/quote] Thank you! I feel almost ashamed to admit I probably put no thought into it whatsoever, lol. Sat, 05 Nov 2011 17:42:33 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_502165 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_502165 maarow [quote=DudelRok] I call shenanigans on "My story is not shaping up to be quite as bizarre as many of these synopses posted herein..." Shenanigans I say! [/quote] Heh...well, I certainly don't have any characters with a name as awesome as Captain White-Beard Two-Pegs. :) I guess I just mean that I'm feeling a bit insecure with the Western setting. Normally I write horror, a genre I know pretty intimately, so it's easy to sidestep the cliches or else turn them on their head. With Westerns I'm not quite as familiar with the terrain, so coming up with bizarre twists on the known iconography is more difficult. Sat, 05 Nov 2011 17:49:33 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_502390 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_502390 manic ragdoll Manson? Sat, 05 Nov 2011 17:59:17 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_502700 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_502700 DudelRok When in doubt, use movies. Case in point? I'm totally bastardizing the crud out of The Pirates of Caribbean films, especially since I'm not really a reader of "main stream fiction" as it is. So I'd say your best bet is... well pretty much go Clint Eastwood. For examples of "bizarre Western" I'd say... Mel Brook's Blazing Saddles, and Cowboy's VS Aliens. Probably a lot more, but they stick out in my brain. Of course the second of those is trying to be serious, which may or may not be your bag. Oh, and you've yet to meet Axe'n'Face Jack. Let us just say he is uh... aptly named. But it's easy to throw up backassward characters in any brand of fiction. Sat, 05 Nov 2011 19:59:58 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_506101 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_506101 DudelRok I'm having... this... this... I don't... it's just... you when... and then... I can't really form a thought, here. (Excluding that one.) I was just... I don't know. XD Sat, 05 Nov 2011 20:22:53 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_506799 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_506799 Saker Pup [quote=maarow]I feel almost ashamed to admit I probably put no thought into it whatsoever[/quote] No shame necessary, dear. The neatest tricks tend to be those that come from instinct, with as little conscious thought involved as possible. Sat, 05 Nov 2011 23:57:51 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_512758 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_512758 Saker Pup ... yeah... ^_^ Oops, I think my Goth Card is showing (she said as if her novel wasn't certifiably Goth As Fuck™). Sun, 06 Nov 2011 00:04:55 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_512921 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_512921 Saker Pup Seriously, though: <em>don't forget the "violence."</em> It is good advice. Sun, 06 Nov 2011 00:05:46 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_512936 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_512936 manic ragdoll I saw him live...was rather hilarious: It was at the Virginia Beach Mayhem Festival (I was attending predominately for Behemoth, Cannibal Corpse, Slayer, Manson, and The Black Dahlia Murder-in that order)...Manson was the final act, following Slayer...it was quite surreal, as the moment Slayer departed, as did the metalheads...and thus, from the shadows (verily...they rose from the aphotic pit of darkness encircling the stage...just materialized) levitated a mass of Goths...hadn't seen them at any other point in the day-long festival, as though they had been lingering and siphoning energy from the inebriated meatheads until Manson rose to guide them from their crevices...being a creature which conformed to neither group (if forced to classify myself, I would likely respond that I identify with the rivithead/cybergoth subcultures...) I remained at the front of the pit and proceeded to enjoy the remainder of the show. There really wasn't a point to that...and it was devoid of my standard verbosity...too mentally exhausted to use regular diction, really...but there it is. A pointless story. Enjoy. Sun, 06 Nov 2011 00:15:15 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_513148 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_513148 manic ragdoll Also...why aren't you lot my Facebook friends? I rather want to be capable of random chattering... If anyone is not opposed to requesting me out of fear that I may be a slobbering foetus or, alternatively, an elderly bloke with a propensity for psychotic rambling and prepubescent boy-girls, then please proceed anyway, as I am confident that, if I was either of those, it would still lead to some interesting exchanges: http://www.facebook.com/Manicragdoll Sun, 06 Nov 2011 00:19:43 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_513251 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_513251 Saker Pup [quote=manic ragdoll]out of fear that I may be a slobbering foetus or, alternatively, an elderly bloke with a propensity for psychotic rambling and prepubescent boy-girls[/quote] I'm noticeably disappointed to hear you're apparently not either of those, as we would get along so incredibly well if you were... In answer to your other question: I'm not nearly cool enough for Facebook. Or Twitter. Or Google+. (Or any other means of social networking really; I am asocial like that.) Sun, 06 Nov 2011 01:07:32 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_515280 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_515280 Saker Pup I rather like pointless stories. And I am serious. Sun, 06 Nov 2011 01:08:43 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_515292 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_515292 manic ragdoll I only use it for retaining contact with friends who long ago departed for unknown shores...that and injecting updates for my electro-industrial/aggrotech project into the system's veins...so fear not...I'm only scarcely cool enough :p Sun, 06 Nov 2011 02:01:20 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_515860 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_515860 TANK Ex Mortis Cook's a big film geek. I think he does a blog with Jordan Krall, another bizarro author and film geek. Krall is like the greatest living sage of 70s giallo flicks. He's also the author of the quintessential bizarro western Fistful of Feet, which I actually don't think is his best book but it's worth a read for anyone interested in weird westerns. Sun, 06 Nov 2011 09:28:42 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_521288 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_521288 TANK Ex Mortis I'm taking a Facebook Break during NaNo, but I'll try and send you a thing when we're through. Sun, 06 Nov 2011 09:30:40 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_521332 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_521332 TANK Ex Mortis I love this thread's crazy deep nested comments, it's like forum incest. Sun, 06 Nov 2011 09:31:37 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_521351 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_521351 CassyDK So need a solution to a puzzling issue. My aliens can only think in boxes, so open door = something is wrong and we need to eliminate. But what if the protagonists hide in a tower/silo which is by default round?? Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:02:22 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_521932 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_521932 DudelRok Group hug! Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:21:06 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_522352 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_522352 DudelRok Maybe they'll have to learn to think outside the box, then? Wouldn't that be the joke, anyway? Or maybe make the tower/silo oddly rectangular, for no reason what-so-ever? Ha! Funny thought: The aliens took over the mayor, or something, and he's been commissioning new designs for everything in town, making sure all is as square as possible. Kinda like terraforming. Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:24:30 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_522424 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_522424 DudelRok Facebook is evil. O.O Twitter to a lesser extent but I don't have one of those either. Do have a Google+ because Google account, but never use it, forget it is even there until someone mentions it. Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:26:50 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_522472 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_522472 bekkiii Thanks, there's a small excerpt up now but I don't think it makes any sense out of context. You may be the judges of that :) Sun, 06 Nov 2011 14:07:32 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_527818 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_527818 bekkiii Would you still want to do that if I told you, you'd have to relive your worst memories inside the shipwreck, projected on movie screens made out of golden flower petals that charge out of a series of dubloons? Sun, 06 Nov 2011 14:10:57 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_527917 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_527917 GreenSweatshirtGal My story is about a 'professional badass' (badasses apparently work in underwater offices, by the way) who gets hired by a suspicious little girl with an affinity for blankets to protect her older form (she spontaneously ages at night for some reason) from getting killed or otherwise harmed by the otherworldly beings she parties with. Said partying occurs at a rave called 'Carte Blanche', which is actually the legendary hub between dimensions that was supposedly responsible for flooding Earth (which isn't actually Earth, but a somewhat futuristic alternate version of it) with monsters, aliens, etc. years and years ago. The primary antagonist is older!girl's ex-boyfriend, who is a massive douchebag. Also, God (okay, of another world, but whatever). Oh, and the protagonist has laser fists, the ability to sense douchebaggery even in a room crammed with Lovecraftian beings and other wacky things, and a really weird imagination for someone who punches things for a living. Not sure what crazy power to give to his stress-loving but professional not-quite-partner yet, suggestions welcome! Then there's these two crazy magical cop chicks and something about the embodiments of the Seven Social Sins... This was the shortest summary I could come up with, and I still think it needs expanding not to be confusing. Am..am I home? Sun, 06 Nov 2011 16:31:53 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_531874 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_531874 Saker Pup I can't be involved in any group hugs that don't have a blatantly sexual component. Not when that hug is initiated in response to an incest joke, anyway. Forum incest: Originating in a group of writers that all claim at least some tie to a genre that includes <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Super-Giant-Monster-Choose-Mind-Fuck/dp/1933929960/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1320622183&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow">Choose Your Own Mind-Fuckfest</a> novels, this makes total sense to me. Sun, 06 Nov 2011 17:31:24 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_533509 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_533509 Saker Pup [quote=GreenSweatshirtGal]Am..am I home?[/quote] I believe you are, dear. Welcome. Please enjoy the oddities you're bound to encounter. Sun, 06 Nov 2011 17:36:00 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_533603 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_533603 manic ragdoll Interdiminsional raves was decent foreplay, but the term "Lovecraftian" was pure penetrative ecstasy... Welcome to the realm of the Bizarro Board. Sun, 06 Nov 2011 18:53:04 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_535678 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_535678 manic ragdoll Group hug in tatter-stitch fur suits that have convenient holes? And by tatter-stitch fur suits I of course mean spike-endowed pugilist armor. Crafted from Satan's bile. With blood. And tentacles. Actually...Satan is so very drab and overused...make that the bile of Set. Yes...perfect. Also...we're all zombies. So it is an incestuous Egyptian-god-of-chaos-puke coated zombie orgy hugfest with gratuitous impalement. I'm getting all itchy at the mere notion. Sun, 06 Nov 2011 18:57:23 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_535786 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_535786 DudelRok I rather like the ability to sense douchebaggery . That would come in handy! But out of all of that, what I like best is this: [quote=GreenSweatshirtGal]This was the shortest summary I could come up with, and I still think it needs expanding not to be confusing.[/quote] Where as I fear expanding as it'll cause confusion. XD Welcome home. Sun, 06 Nov 2011 19:26:48 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_536586 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_536586 DudelRok Okay, okay... fondling first and THEN hugs? I like the title of that paperback, too. "Super Giant Monster Time!" Must... read... more... bizarro... fiction. Sun, 06 Nov 2011 19:28:55 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_536661 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_536661 DudelRok I demand party hats! They complete any attire, you know. Sun, 06 Nov 2011 19:29:32 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_536674 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_536674 Saker Pup [quote=DudelRok]Okay, okay... fondling first and THEN hugs?[/quote] Whatever are you thinking, dear? <em>During it should always be during...</em> Sun, 06 Nov 2011 22:30:37 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_541461 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_541461 Saker Pup Okay, I'm totally in on this. =D Sun, 06 Nov 2011 22:30:58 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_541471 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_541471 SaintRyan I think mine may be Absurdist but I'm having a really tough time figuring out where it sits among traditional genre and thus have labeled it "Experimental Fiction". My book will be a novel made up of short stories about one central character (Deucalion Astor), a disenchanted wealthy Frenchman who may or may not be insane. The short stories range discussing his father shortly before Deuc's birth, to a piece from the perspective of their manor which describes the family's interactions and infidelities at length. As far as the short-story novel aspect it's most like Haunted by Palahniuk but... not. There's no traditional plot structure to be found. I've been calling it 'A study on the nature of madness' or 'A character study' but I just. Don't. Know. Absurdist: Study of human behavior under circumstances (whether realistic or fantastical) that appear to be purposeless. Check. Posits little judgment about characters or their actions. Check Ambiguous moral, themes, character's realizations. Check. But I'm not sure. What do you guys think? Mon, 07 Nov 2011 02:36:03 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_545313 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_545313 CassyDK Oh I like the Mayor idea! Might use that. I was more thinking that maybe round buildings will be kind of their cryptonite, something they can't comprehend Mon, 07 Nov 2011 05:12:48 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_546554 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_546554 DudelRok My favorite is the classic "???" JRPG response when presented with an unknown object. You know, just stare blankly and try to figure it out, even if your hair is on fire. Mon, 07 Nov 2011 10:32:46 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_550191 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_550191 Saker Pup [quote=SaintRyan]who may or may not be insane.[/quote] Relatable. [quote=SaintRyan]Haunted by Palahniuk[/quote] <em>Haunted</em> is beyond great. I often use it as part of my screening process for new people. Because if you don't think the sentence "You can't unfuck a kid." is funny, we're not going to get along at all. =( [quote=SaintRyan]What do you guys think?[/quote] I love your idea, I love your excerpt, what you've said about it so far seems to fit the definition of <em>absurdist</em> you posted. That aside, as in all writing--and stylistic-based writing especially--it's really going to come down to the details. You seem like you're on the path you want though, so just keep going and you'll be fine. Question: You title? Any relation to <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Rats-Saw-God-Rob-Thomas/dp/1416938974" rel="nofollow">this book</a>? (I fucking loved that book back in the day, is why I'm asking: it's what really peaked my interest in Dada and everything else that spiraled off of it.) Mon, 07 Nov 2011 14:34:32 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_555315 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_555315 TANK Ex Mortis Shit, that sounds exactly like a dream I had once. Okay mostly just the first line, but that's still a pretty dope coincidence. Welcome! Mon, 07 Nov 2011 20:05:02 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_563463 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_563463 DudelRok [quote=Saker Pup]<em>Haunted</em> is beyond great. I often use it as part of my screening process for new people. Because if you don't think the sentence "You can't unfuck a kid." is funny, we're not going to get along at all. =([/quote] So I read that key phrase three different ways. Two were funny, one was disturbing... and then funny. Am I going to hell? I'm going to hell. Tue, 08 Nov 2011 00:32:16 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_569361 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_569361 Saker Pup [quote=DudelRok]one was disturbing... and then funny. Am I going to hell?[/quote] Not at all! You just read it the same way I did. Or maybe I'm going to hell too? Looking forward to good company, at least. ;) Tue, 08 Nov 2011 02:07:14 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_570388 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_570388 DudelRok Hell buddies! I call top bunk. You know, the one with less fire... 'cause I'm a gentleman. Tue, 08 Nov 2011 10:59:18 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_576152 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_576152 Saker Pup Aww, thank you! How did you know I like fire? (It is a girl's best friend or something...) Tue, 08 Nov 2011 11:17:03 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_576471 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_576471 maarow Ha! I showed up for Two-Pegs, I'll stay for Axe'n'Face Jack. The more I write the more Western-appropriate ideas I'm getting. Today I decided to have a ghost town occupied by possessed/alchemically animated porcelain dolls, created by a toymaker who used to work at a mental asylum--he gave the fastest lobotomies west of the Mississippi. And yesterday, while bored out of my skull at work, I came up with a couple of sisters living on a farm in the middle of nowhere who are perpetually attempting to murder one another for the affections of dear old daddy (who is, of course, a rotting corpse by the time our hero comes to call). I think one sister is finally going to win out over the other and then she's going to carry her sibling's severed head around with her for the rest of the book. I don't really know at this point whether the book is going to be serious or not. The violence is so completely excessive that it's kind of funny to me, but I'd like to be better at dark comedy. Joe Lansdale is a favorite author of mine who can be both disturbing and hilarious in the same moment. It's a skill I admire. Wed, 09 Nov 2011 03:17:41 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_594393 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_594393 maarow If I made a list of things that intrigue me in fiction (and I have, actually) the elements of your synopsis would occupy at least half a dozen bullet points. And your excerpt gives me half a dozen more. (Sex in a crypt? More please.) Actually your ideas--not necessarily your writing style--remind me a bit of Caitlin R. Kiernan. She seems to do a lot of the weird erotic fairy tale horror stuff. Unfortunately she's also pretty miserable and so are her characters, which turns me off, but from what little I've read of your work it seems like your characters are interesting and likeable. It's a funny thing, but the older I get the more nihilistic my writing becomes. I'm not an unhappy person but I do have this pervasive philosophical suspicion that none of it really matters. Which to me is strangely more comforting than everything happening for a reason. Wed, 09 Nov 2011 03:34:07 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_594499 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_594499 maarow Oops, I forgot I'd already replied to you earlier. Well, there's a more detailed comment for you. :) Wed, 09 Nov 2011 03:35:26 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_594506 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=1#forum_thread_comment_594506 faerieclare Yeah I was gonna say red pudding's some Scottish thing, and if you ever implied the Scots and English are the same thing you'd have a clan of angry, wode-painted, red-haired, screaming Scots outside your door before you could say William Wallace. There are blood puddings made all over the world, so maybe it's time to go to your local German restaurant?? (Or Spanish/Greek/Vietnamese/etc) Always good to widen your horizons! I'm vegetarian, so my puddings stay firmly and sensibly in the dessert section! Your arteries may also harden at the thought of this, but your mouth will love you! http://www.jamieoliver.com/recipes/other-recipes/sticky-toffee-pudding enjoy xxfaeriexx Wed, 09 Nov 2011 06:02:42 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_595519 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_595519 faerieclare I'm getting heaps of images out of my dreams, need to work them into words somehow.... Wed, 09 Nov 2011 06:05:33 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_595543 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_595543 faerieclare Help! I'm trying to catch up! I've slightly had really bad appendicitis and haven't written anything for days. Having weird dreams tho, which should help... My midget gem will be back from pre-school in a min, but maybe I can do a bit tonite... Wed, 09 Nov 2011 06:19:27 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_595654 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_595654 SaintRyan Oh wow. I actually had no idea that book existed. But now I'll look into it. I just thought up the sentence fragment and thought it sounded perfect for my very general idea. And haunted is one of my top Palahniuk books. And he is among my top ten authors... so yeah. :) And thanks for the feedback! I also adore your excerpt Wed, 09 Nov 2011 11:35:24 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_599681 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_599681 DudelRok Sounds pretty freaking crazy to me, what you have going... but do remember that you and Joe Lansdale are not the same person. He'll be good at somethings, and bad at others. I couldn't give any examples due to never reading his stuff, but I guarantee he has some. That being said, you certainly have disturbing down... and I'll admit that some of your descriptions are their own breed of amusing. (But I obviously favor non seqiuitor humor so I'm not really the target audience either.) Sounds like you got something good, there... just try not to worry so much. There is always the editing process! Wed, 09 Nov 2011 12:23:39 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_600530 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=2#forum_thread_comment_600530 DudelRok Yikes! Health scare, not fun. Good to see you're alive and writing, too. Not sure how we could help... unless words of encouragement do something. "You can do it!" "Don't let something like your appendix exploding get you down!" &lt;- Might be in bad taste? I don't know... I'm very used to curbing myself. Just know I mean no harm or ill-will. Wed, 09 Nov 2011 12:33:30 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_600695 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_600695 manic ragdoll Automatic writing...it helped me catch up...essentially just write without focusing upon what is being slathered upon the page...write from the subconscious...it may appear to be nonsense initially, but it actually revealed quite a bit about the setting of my story which I never would have conjured and explored otherwise. Hope everything is better in regards to the appendicitis. Wed, 09 Nov 2011 12:37:07 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_600759 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_600759 Saker Pup [quote=SaintRyan] I just thought up the sentence fragment and thought it sounded perfect for my very general idea.[/quote] How odd. The edition I linked to says it was pubbed in 2007 but I know I read it way earlier than that (one of the plot points has to do with Kurt Cobain's death), so it's nothing recent and to my knowledge it was never popular--just awesome. [quote=SaintRyan]I also adore your excerpt[/quote] Thank you. Wed, 09 Nov 2011 15:33:39 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_604174 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_604174 Saker Pup [quote=DudelRok]I'm very used to curbing myself.[/quote] <em>Ow.</em> No, wait, I'm thinking <em>curb-stomping</em>. Nevermind, completely different concept. Although how I'm trying to imagine how one would do that to oneself... extreme contortions would be necessary, I think... Wed, 09 Nov 2011 15:36:50 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_604257 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_604257 DudelRok How does one do that? How do you shut off the conscience brain? I... I can't. (I'd explain somethings about the literalness of this being a near impossibility but we aren't at that level of sharing yet.) It takes so much just to scatter my mind and form fluent thoughts as it is. It's one of the reasons I favor the form of writing I have... because otherwise I'd just get any old thing that wondered in my head onto paper. Like, you know... FISH! *eyes go wide* Fish... holy crap! I just, I've been brain dead all dead for ideas and now... must NaNo. Eh, yeah. /end post. Wed, 09 Nov 2011 18:48:52 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_607864 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_607864 DudelRok Right... got that out of my system, what was I saying again? Oh right, automatic writing. Best Seinfeld voice, "How DO you do it?" Wed, 09 Nov 2011 19:23:52 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_608516 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_608516 DudelRok I see a man with the ability to stretch beyond limits... curb stomping himself in an effort to knock out a painful tooth. O.o Wed, 09 Nov 2011 19:27:00 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_608570 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_608570 manic ragdoll I find it is easiest when disconnected from reality, which would best be achieved by suturing one's eyes and lips, clotting the nasal and aural passages, and developing a condition which renders one incapable of feeling. That is, however, rather impractical and thus I find loud, repetitive music and a digitized optic interface provided through cybernetic contacts satisfactory for the task (the latter do not yet exist...but I assume they would likely help). Anyhow...remove external stimuli...you want to enter a sort of transcendental state. LSD helps. But then the bugs burrowing into your flesh tend to distract from the task at hand...so...on second thought-no drugs. Now, type-do not think, do not process. Just type. Coherency is a negligible variable, as are spelling and grammar. The last one I did came out something like this: "perspiration flows from my blackened pores as I beat the willocker with an enigmatic beatboxing match which I light and throw into the caverns of time divulging the hidden reality of the esoteria aforementioned as cthulhu renders ruination to minds of mice, so does god render ruination in similar manner upon the hound of the baskervilles and I fear him not but you must comprehend, dear friend, that there is no direction, no resolve, no purpose, merely drifting, as a toucan drifts through the slipstream of nether realms unaffected by the constraints of time and morality and I sit, pondering, reflecting upon the satyr’s words and meals of children, yes mealy mealy children so scrumptious look at them those despondent black rimmed eyes gazing, always with the blasted gazing how I loathe them the bastards, the twats, running about purporting ignorance they know the truth, the diminutive devils, oh how they know but I shan’t chastise them for it is wrong to chastise a child always ever so wrong I must say that I cannot believe the seraphs have yet to notice the plight of their nature their reality it falls collapses implodes for we have attained the power of reason and knowledge and their pocketwatches fail to show that their time is limited merely show that time keeps ticking as they so boldly proclaim it to be but they lie oh how they lie always wit hthe seeds of falsehood sewn amongst the lambs who are in reality devoid of need for a shepeherd traditionally a herd animal they have developed autonomy oh they have indeed and the crane the reconstruction the effigy of progress ruined ruined ruined as it was..." It continues for a while, but it is not exactly requisite to your comprehension of the topic. Also, it's nonsense. Incoherent? Yes. But you can take images and juxtapositions and conceptualizations derived from it and craft them into something of substance. Thu, 10 Nov 2011 00:19:57 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_613787 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_613787 DudelRok Yeah, see, I wouldn't be able to finish words, let alone sentences if I did that. :\ And I'd make up words, or start repeating advertisements. It takes quite a bit of effort to channel my thoughts into something tangible, heavens knows what'd happen if they ended up on paper. Word vomit doesn't translate well. But it doesn't hurt to try, I suppose. Let me see what I can do. Thu, 10 Nov 2011 03:26:36 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_615502 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_615502 DudelRok Actually, that was a lot like me trying to sleep. That meaning: Someone was flipping the channels in my brain, I couldn't focus, and got tons of ideas for everything I'm working on right now. None of it was even a full thought, and all was conscious... and it was very frustrating. Would have been worse so if I was actually trying to sleep. I now have building designs (plural) for my Minecraft home. Of course actually implementing them is another story. Three Episode ideas (in addition to the other 20 or so) for my NaNo and a few RP post concepts. Even a possible story! Short or long, I'm conflicted on. Then I wondered into my Idea folder to put it down, well as best I could considering it wasn't more than "Oranges, Apples and Pears, Oh My!" followed with "Ha! Wizard of Oz except food!" Then I tangented into an older idea I dubbed "Mysintrupria" which had an entire Food-Faction WAR going on in the center of it. And now I'm back here. Thu, 10 Nov 2011 03:54:14 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_615661 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_615661 DudelRok Damn it... now I'm wondering how I can squeeze Pa-Taffy-Dactyls (They are <strong>p</strong>terodactyls made of pink taffy. I find it funny that word starts with a P.) Glutton (a huge man who's melded to his seat, who's brown like filth and covered in growing mushrooms that are poisonous to touch, let alone consume) and the Literally (Pronounced much like Illuminati. Lider-Alie) into The Tale of Captain Red: Redux. I could, but then things would make even less sense than they do now... and all those things exist in a very particular world I'm wondering right now why I have not elaborated on since March 2009. The Banana Splits and Spudders are at WAR... poor Mayor Milk caught in the middle, with Glutton trying to reap the reward of war, selling utensils to both sides, secretly controlling everything, him and his underground group of Literally. Thu, 10 Nov 2011 04:04:17 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_615729 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_615729 Artaud_Damaged I don't think I belong here. Thu, 10 Nov 2011 17:57:11 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_627631 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_627631 manic ragdoll "On the night of the apocalypse Lily Proscenia was raped by a bed bug. On the eve of her thirteenth birthday she developed the ability to talk to insects and the sky turned the colour of chrome. These three events are unrelated. But Lily believes otherwise." -Your Synopsis Yes. You do. Join us, dear Artaud, and bequeath us knowledge of bed bug rape's infinite complexities. Thu, 10 Nov 2011 18:01:27 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_627705 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_627705 manic ragdoll This brings me joy. Proceed. Thu, 10 Nov 2011 18:01:47 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_627712 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_627712 DudelRok Have to agree with Ragdoll on this one. Well I don't HAVE too. It isn't like he's got a gun pointed to my head, or anything. Thu, 10 Nov 2011 19:18:28 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_629102 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_629102 DudelRok I don't know... it never did make much sense... and whenever I tried to make sense of it, things only got worse. Great bird-like creatures that control the skies, except they don't do so out of hunger or power, they are record keepers of the Nonsense below. In fact the entire idea was to be told as a record from one of their books. "Glutton's Saga and The Pantra War." A great wall divided two very distinct climates. A freezing tundra (populated by banana splits and other cold ice creamy goodness) and a harsh desert (populated by spudders and other cupboard based food-stuffs). Don't even remember why they were at war. Something about calories and trans-fats. Then there was some kid that fell through a wormhole, landing in the middle of all the craziness. He wasn't even supposed to do anything, except get in the way. Mayor Milk drags the poor kid around as bonbons explode in the air. I don't know... the whole thing was stupid. X| Thu, 10 Nov 2011 19:24:26 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_629218 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_629218 manic ragdoll If by gun you mean brain slug launcher, then yes. Yes I do. Thu, 10 Nov 2011 19:57:06 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_629799 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_629799 Artaud_Damaged From Wiki: "Traumatic insemination, also known as hypodermic insemination, is the mating practice in some species of invertebrates in which the male pierces the female's abdomen with his penis and injects his sperm through the wound into her abdominal cavity. The sperm diffuse through the female's hemolymph, reaching the ovaries and resulting in fertilization. The process is detrimental to the female's health. It creates an open wound which impairs the female until it heals, and is susceptible to infection. The injection of sperm and ejaculatory fluids into the hemocoel can also trigger an immune reaction in the female." Now imagine that instead of another invertebrate, the victim is a child. I have titled the chapter on Insect Rape: 'The Child Screamed, or the Masochistic Pleasures of Traumatic Insemination.' Thu, 10 Nov 2011 20:51:08 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_630698 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_630698 manic ragdoll &lt;3 I'm in love. Fri, 11 Nov 2011 00:30:07 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_634172 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_634172 Saker Pup [quote=DudelRok]I don't know... the whole thing was stupid. X|[/quote] Certainly not, this is amazing. Know what it kinda sounds like to me though? A sort of fucked-up childrens book that's not really a childrens book. Like <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Abarat-Clive-Barker/dp/0062094106/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1321002769&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow">The Abarat</a></em> but marketed even younger--and older. ... that all made sense when I thought of it, I swear. *backs away slowly* Fri, 11 Nov 2011 03:14:24 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_635617 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_635617 Saker Pup [quote=DudelRok]It isn't like he's got a gun pointed to my head, or anything.[/quote] You can't possibly know that with any modicum of certainty. Ragdoll is a Time Killer from the year 3017 (originally) and has access to technology beyond your imagination. Fri, 11 Nov 2011 03:17:42 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_635636 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_635636 Saker Pup O_O You guys will not fucking believe this but I just discovered <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traumatic_insemination" rel="nofollow">that concept</a> like a week ago. I got so excited about it, I linked practically everyone I know to that page and now they all think I'm a fuck-up (those that didn't think I was a fuck-up to begin with, anyway--those that already knew that now just add "moreso" to the designation). Unrelated but it seems related somehow: the <em>risk of injury</em> note <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex-machine" rel="nofollow">here</a> made me laugh so hard for all the wrong reasons (um... profoundly nsfw, if anyone is paying attention to that). Fri, 11 Nov 2011 03:31:00 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_635732 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_635732 manic ragdoll Saker Pup, you are my new favorite person. After pulling an all-nighter to complete schoolwork, that disclaimer rendered me stumbling about the common room guffawing for an obscenely prolonged duration... Fri, 11 Nov 2011 04:51:27 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_636247 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_636247 manic ragdoll Also, I have a shatter-proof fucksaw sheathe. Something which is apparently beyond your meager technology. Fear me and my sex machine prowess! Fri, 11 Nov 2011 04:52:32 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_636252 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_636252 manic ragdoll I concur. Expand it, so that I may want it, buy it, use it, fuck it. Fresh Chernobyl-baked soul cookie for whomever catches the reference. Fri, 11 Nov 2011 04:55:32 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_636272 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_636272 Saker Pup Angelspit! Soul cookies all around! Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:53:00 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_643894 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_643894 Saker Pup <em>My</em> technology?! Look at me, do you really think I'm from here? And "fear"? No. It is a similar sensation but nothing close to fear. ;) Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:57:58 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_644003 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_644003 Saker Pup I mostly just dig how many times the word "fuck" is in that Wiki article. I'm used to Wikipedia being, you know, <em>something like professional</em>, so the disconnect was very truly exquisite on that one. Fri, 11 Nov 2011 15:00:43 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_644053 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_644053 DudelRok That first link lead to probably the weirdest wiki-walk I have ever participated in. But when you are talking about insects, you tend to hop along a wonderful line. I like my bugs. Fish too, they are freaking WEIRD. Fri, 11 Nov 2011 18:06:41 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_647558 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_647558 DudelRok Proper names don't count against Wikipedia, and, besides, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuck" rel="nofollow">this article wins.</a> Fri, 11 Nov 2011 18:09:11 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_647599 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_647599 Artaud_Damaged I am playing with the idea of a Fascist race of Underwater Mammals being led by a character named Adolphin Hitler. Fri, 11 Nov 2011 18:20:44 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_647788 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_647788 DudelRok It's actually a strange twist and manipulation of one of my favorite books of all time. That being <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Phantom-Tollbooth-Norton-Juster/dp/0394815009/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1321056587&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow">The Phantom Tollbooth</a> by Norton Juster. A book that I read very regularly, love so much that I suggest it to everyone, and takes things on such a wonderful literal level that I can't help smile each time I read. It has some obvious Alice in Wonderland links, as well. Another one of my personal favorites from when I was a kid. Even Disney can't mess up that too much, minus the removal of the sexual implications. The concept has all kinds of oddness, though. Miss Correctly: Who is crazy about being politically correct to the point where she tries and corrects others. This gets her in trouble a lot as some people find her words offending. Well most people do. Cotton Mouth: A snake... who's made of cotton. His bite was so soft and fluffy! He doesn't like that, though. Core Guard: Who guarded the world's core. He was a lot like a British Royal guard, standing in front of this gem that was in Glutton's castle, that gem being "the core of the world" keeping it in some kind of... "balance." it's the only way Random-Nameless-Kid's way home, or so he's told. Anyway, anyway, the core guard stands right in front of the gem, never moving, never sleeping, staring straight at the doorway that leads to where he's standing. I suppose there is some Wizard of Oz in this mess, as well. O.o Maybe I could squeeze in: "Apples and Oranges and Pears, OH MY!" Fri, 11 Nov 2011 18:21:09 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_647794 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_647794 DudelRok I've expanded it quite a bit. I just... eh, I'm not really supposed to encourage that breed of thinking too much. It can lead me in weird directions. Fri, 11 Nov 2011 18:23:05 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_647831 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_647831 DudelRok Okay, but that isn't why I agree... at least. Fri, 11 Nov 2011 18:24:27 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_647854 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_647854 DudelRok I typically replace fear with either lots of anger, or a fair bit of spite. XD Fri, 11 Nov 2011 18:25:14 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_647867 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_647867 DudelRok A-Dolphin Hitler. XD Fri, 11 Nov 2011 18:26:36 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_647894 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_647894 maarow How does Benitoad Mussolini figure into this story? Sat, 12 Nov 2011 00:13:56 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_653083 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_653083 Artaud_Damaged I see what you did there, but toads don't live underwater. I want my story to be realistic. Sat, 12 Nov 2011 00:49:50 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_653625 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_653625 Saker Pup [quote=DudelRok]Cotton Mouth: A snake... who's made of cotton. His bite was so soft and fluffy! He doesn't like that, though.[/quote] O_O Oh dear god. &lt;3 Sat, 12 Nov 2011 02:13:42 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_654346 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_654346 Saker Pup No, no. What I'm feeling is far more prurient than spite (although admittedly there is some anger mixed up in there--<em>I</em> would like a shatter-proof fucksaw sheath as well, thank you). Sat, 12 Nov 2011 02:20:44 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_654387 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_654387 Saker Pup Wow. Thank you for giving me the best sentence I've ever read: [quote=Wikipedia]The verb <em>to fuck</em> may be used transitively or intransitively, and it appears in compounds, including <em>fuck off, fuck up, fuck you,</em> and <em>fuck with</em>.[/quote] Anybody who doesn't know that I get off on language... yeah... I get off on language. In fact, babbling incoherent nonsense back and forth is one of my favorite games. Sat, 12 Nov 2011 02:27:04 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_654446 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_654446 Saker Pup Perhaps <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nematode" rel="nofollow">Beni<em>tode</em></a> Mussolini then? Sat, 12 Nov 2011 02:33:31 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_654484 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_654484 Saker Pup Fish: <em>Yes.</em> Especially <a href="http://theoatmeal.com/comics/angler" rel="nofollow">this one</a>. Sat, 12 Nov 2011 02:37:04 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_654500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_654500 DudelRok Ah, the angler fish... what has evolution done to you, you poor bastard? Sat, 12 Nov 2011 12:29:12 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_659385 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_659385 DudelRok <strong>Suddenly:</strong> Spongebob Sat, 12 Nov 2011 13:30:10 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_660304 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_660304 maarow Or Blowfish Stalin? I guess that's a bit of a stretch. Sat, 12 Nov 2011 13:52:29 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_660673 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_660673 Saker Pup Something that it should do to more species, humans in particular. ... I wish my boyfriends would transmutate into literal semi-useless appendages, rather than just figurative ones. =/ Sat, 12 Nov 2011 21:08:16 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_668105 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_668105 AnAgelessTime I just wrote a scene where one character gave a sweetly emotional speech while performing fellatio. And I just said that a phantom had a projector in her genitals of a naked man washing himself. That's just called plot-building for me. Sat, 12 Nov 2011 23:09:49 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_670248 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_670248 maarow [quote=AnAgelessTime] I just wrote a scene where one character gave a sweetly emotional speech while performing fellatio. And I just said that a phantom had a projector in her genitals of a naked man washing himself. That's just called plot-building for me. [/quote] Suddenly I want to read your novel. Sun, 13 Nov 2011 00:42:33 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_671444 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_671444 DudelRok I'm with ya! Er.. not exactly. The first of those confuses me. The, physics, they... doesn't she need her mouth to give a speech? Sun, 13 Nov 2011 13:54:17 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_677085 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_677085 manic ragdoll Silly DudelRok! Women are capable of emitting communicative sounds, most vociferous ones, too, mind you, from their nether regions when incapable of opening their mouths! At least...they can in my novel...because a few of them don't have heads...so...yeah. Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:28:13 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_681714 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_681714 Saker Pup Thanks for telling everyone! Now what am I supposed to do when I want to extract myself from an awkward conversation? That was like, practically my go-to Get Out Of Awkward Conversation Free Card, damn it. Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:04:36 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_688726 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_688726 Saker Pup I just saw my future. And it involves a lot of intentionally awkward conversations. Fuck. I miss my edit button... Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:06:00 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_688738 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_688738 faerieclare Haha. No, look anything said in humour is aaalllriight! But don't make me laugh. It hurts! xx Mon, 14 Nov 2011 03:25:53 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_689230 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_689230 faerieclare Love it! My whole book is Automatic writing. I'm very into the surrealists - their art and writings and philosophies, especially the early stuff before Dali got such an ego! xx Mon, 14 Nov 2011 03:27:36 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_689240 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_689240 faerieclare Some really strange stuff comes up, I hear made-up words: "Silvestri. Tranticum. For me it is past. For me it is present some days. For me the wound opens and out pours the flowers of a good day and black putrid treacle of a bad day long ago." "I wake up. Terro, fundo, mundale, hulawine, fugendo. Tripsale flies by". Mostly I get a sort of moving image, which I try to describe. Some of the same characters have come back and I wonder if they represent part of my personality or an issue I'm dealing with. The reucurring ones are all becalmed, one on a mountain, one on an ocean of glass, one stuck behind a waterfall of toys on a transparent unicorn... xx Mon, 14 Nov 2011 04:03:17 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_689407 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_689407 faerieclare Antonin Artaud? xx Mon, 14 Nov 2011 04:05:10 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_689416 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_689416 DudelRok And I thought ventriloquists were bad. Mon, 14 Nov 2011 14:07:31 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_694900 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_694900 DudelRok Ocean of glass, waterfall of toys and transparent unicorn. I like the sound of that world. :D Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:02:23 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_699650 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_699650 Artaud_Damaged Of course. Tue, 15 Nov 2011 19:51:44 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_717542 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_717542 Artaud_Damaged I have just deleted my "novel". I am starting again. Tue, 15 Nov 2011 21:25:36 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_718214 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_718214 DudelRok Past the half way point, and you started over? :O Wed, 16 Nov 2011 01:48:52 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_721552 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_721552 Artaud_Damaged Pretty much, yeah. Literary Suicide. Wed, 16 Nov 2011 01:55:47 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_721584 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_721584 Saker Pup I did it last year. I made it. Admittedly, it was complete and total shit and I wanted to burn the fucking thing when December came but since the document was stored on my comp, that seemed a bit... excessive. Wed, 16 Nov 2011 03:51:24 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_722074 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_722074 Saker Pup I fucking love when all the power in the universe conspires to make random things I find fit somewhere and therefore imply that there is order and logic where there is not. (Meaning is a construct, you see, but I still dig the illusion.) I did not know this existed until just now, but I'm so glad I found it: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wlqpr87S0no&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">"Fuckmachine" by Combichrist</a>. Also good (but completely unrelated): <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXtRSzUcZQk&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">"Shut Up and Swallow"</a> and <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oExRglZ_06Q&amp;feature=relmfu" rel="nofollow">"Get Your Body Beat"</a> (also by Combichrist). NSFW, all of it, as is my way. ;) Wed, 16 Nov 2011 15:33:37 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_729311 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_729311 DudelRok Cool! Not sure how they suddenly make the world less chaotic, but still cool. Er, well, I can extrapolate a few links but some might argue them. XD Wed, 16 Nov 2011 21:29:37 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_734246 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_734246 Saker Pup Less chaotic/the illusion of patterns: discussed fucksaws in this thread (above and below), later found the song "Fuckmachine" by Combichrist. I'm probably over-thinking this. Under-thinking? Eh, definitely at least one of those... Wed, 16 Nov 2011 23:01:14 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_735571 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_735571 DudelRok That was one link I thought might be, yes. As far as thinking goes: Me being me, I'd guess... over thinking. Thu, 17 Nov 2011 01:02:19 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_736704 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_736704 faerieclare Theatre or writings? or just love the man himself? Thu, 17 Nov 2011 05:38:47 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_738190 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_738190 faerieclare Thanx, I feel like I want to write about the transparent unicorn a lot more, maybe a short story after Nano. He seems to like eating lollies and you can see them being digested and making beautiful smeary colours... xx Thu, 17 Nov 2011 05:41:15 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_738205 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_738205 DudelRok This reminds me of all kinds of "Invisible Man" kind of scenes where they show him chewing or drinking, just to play with the effects. :O Always fun! Fri, 18 Nov 2011 13:41:15 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_755722 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_755722 Saker Pup Total agreement. Invisible man effects are always cool. Ooh, related: the movie <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100_Feet" rel="nofollow">100 Feet</a> has a scene where the ghost of the protag's abusive husband beats the fuck out of her new lover. As the ghost is head-butting the guy, his face becomes visible because it's covered in blood. Love that. Also, this film stars Famke Jannsen (unf) so totally worth watching. Fri, 18 Nov 2011 15:11:07 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_756782 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_756782 DudelRok Wrote some "flash backs" which will probably end up being the start of the story, rather than somewhere in the middle. But, hey, that's what the editing process is for. And I introduced myself as a character. I'm a giant thing with no solid existence, emotion, care, or purpose, who's then quickly used to create two other lifeforms, after being told to destroy an entire island because "Fuck it, it ain't like I had anything better to do." I have no problems with my self identity AT ALL. Sat, 19 Nov 2011 06:13:51 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_764674 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_764674 sshank Who are your favorite absurd and/or surreal authors? I'm looking for new stuff to read! Sat, 19 Nov 2011 18:01:21 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_771538 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_771538 Applejacks I think my story will fit in here. I'm afraid to mention what it consists of though, but everyone's idea sounds great. Sat, 19 Nov 2011 18:06:44 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_771621 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_771621 Saker Pup [quote=DudelRok]destroy an entire island because "Fuck it, it ain't like I had anything better to do."[/quote] Something about that hits me just exactly right. I think because it's more apathetic/senselessly chaotic than malicious. Love that. <em>Disclaimer: I am no one's target audience. To believe otherwise is unwise.</em> Sat, 19 Nov 2011 19:00:22 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_772268 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_772268 DudelRok Senselessly chaotic sounds like my entire story at this point, really. Just... because I felt like adding in a new monster, or wanted to destroy some NPCs. Sat, 19 Nov 2011 22:13:36 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_774491 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_774491 DudelRok Well I don't read much, if anything, let alone Absurdism or Surrealism, whatever etc. However The Phantom Tollbooth is pretty much nail on the head and my favorite book, ever. Dr. Seuss as well. If anyone says Dr. Seuss isn't "Absurdism" then... well, I don't belong in this thread. Sat, 19 Nov 2011 22:18:16 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_774541 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_774541 Artaud_Damaged Antonin Artaud. Comte de Lautréamont. Georges Bataille. Marquis De Sade. James Havoc. William Burroughs. Kathy Acker. Sat, 19 Nov 2011 22:19:35 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_774561 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_774561 DudelRok Tell us anyway! Don't make me tell someone else to do horrible things to do. I'm hands off, you see. Don't need blood on my hands. Sat, 19 Nov 2011 22:19:39 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_774562 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_774562 faerieclare I love Burroughs and Lautremont, but since I had a daughter I find the violence disturbing - well it's meant to be right? I love children's literature - try Shaun Tan he lives in a very surreal world... Sun, 20 Nov 2011 04:21:38 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_777403 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_777403 Saker Pup Yes, tell us. I, however, unlike DudelRok, am not averse to getting blood on my hands to get what I want. Sun, 20 Nov 2011 04:22:02 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_777406 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_777406 Applejacks :D Alright! Well, there's a part in my story where this exotic car (living by celestial energy running through her from a mythical creature) is implied to have conceived(not like a human) a dream cloud creature that hatches from a star. She looks like a stuffed animal with long lop-ears, like that of a bunny, resembling really curly pigtails made of clouds and a puff ball tail. The car has a gender because the spirit was always female in her other lives. Her structure has the ability to change completely so she can physically defend herself, kill or even show affection. Then there's a dream cloud scientist that is one lab accident away from going crazy. He extracts nightmares, fears, sadness and uses them to create viruses and dark magic. There's a *lot* more to the story. I'm still cleaning it up so it'll be fantasic, but still have a little logic behind it. Sun, 20 Nov 2011 07:59:53 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_778572 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_778572 DudelRok And if games count, oh boy. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychonauts" rel="nofollow">Psychonauts</a>. Well, anything by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Schafer" rel="nofollow">Tim Schafer</a>. (Multiplatform) Gravity Bone by <a href="http://blendogames.com/" rel="nofollow">Blendo Games</a> (Free Windows Download and it's super short.) Alien Hominid (Multiplatform) Castle Crashers (Multiplatform) Earthbound (SNES) Dozens of cartoons, too! See, the thing is, I don't really read. Sun, 20 Nov 2011 19:35:26 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_785732 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_785732 DudelRok O.o? Well... well I have no idea what to say about this. That certainly sounds pretty freaking Bizarre, though. In a good way, of course. Sun, 20 Nov 2011 19:36:58 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_785749 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_785749 Saker Pup Dig it. Although, when you say: [quote=Applejacks]Her structure has the ability to change completely so she can physically defend herself, kill or even show affection.[/quote] all I can think about is a scene that involves fondling the gearshift, followed by key-insertion. O_o Sun, 20 Nov 2011 20:06:31 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_786122 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_786122 Applejacks It won't be graphic! I probably won't even mention how it happened! Mon, 21 Nov 2011 14:02:16 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_794308 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_794308 Applejacks That's funny and now I have to wonder who would do that... I'm hoping I won't have to mention who, but then again, nothing seems normal when I'm writing it. Mon, 21 Nov 2011 14:16:02 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_794485 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_794485 Saker Pup Um... I would do that... (just sayin'). Mon, 21 Nov 2011 15:34:05 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_795355 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_795355 Applejacks lol I meant who would create the child with her. Any ideas? And are there many publishers that like these genres? All I've ever seen is publishers accepting fantasy, science fiction, romance, horror or fiction. Mon, 21 Nov 2011 18:35:30 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_797541 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_797541 Artaud_Damaged I'm fucked. There is no way I'm going to finish this thing. Mon, 21 Nov 2011 22:09:25 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_800061 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_800061 Artaud_Damaged Your story, and your unwillingness to make the story "Graphic", makes me think of Transformers and Care Bears. Try a Children's Book Publisher. Mon, 21 Nov 2011 22:14:15 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_800123 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_800123 Saker Pup Doesn't matter: keep going anyway. Seriously, I will go to my toy chest and pick out a nice leather flogger if that's what it takes. ;) Tue, 22 Nov 2011 02:11:30 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_802059 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_802059 Saker Pup <strong>Makin' (lop-eared, dream cloud) babies:</strong> Anyone. Figure out what your character likes, what she's attracted to in a partner, then either give it to her or make her take it by force. <strong>Publishers:</strong> Figure out what you're calling your genre and type it into Google followed by the word <em>publisher</em>. If you've ever seen anything like what you're writing before, find out who published it and put them on your list as well. Try to focus on small presses--they pay less but they like weird things more and will give you a level of attention you'd likely never see from a traditional/large publisher. Tue, 22 Nov 2011 02:20:06 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_802092 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_802092 Applejacks Please tell me, is that a bad thing; should it be graphic ,then? And the story is mainly focused on a child cyborg and his inability to please his human care takers. It's a dark story, but I don't want excessive sex, violence, gore etc. And the vehicle does not 'create' things the way a human does. Children's book publishers aren't going to take this story, because it's not appropriate for children and it's too weird. There aren't any sentient robots in my story, just a cyborg. I think it would be better as a graphic novel since you can visually see all the characters, but I need a little work on perspective, color theory, character design and other essentials. What do you think of a graphic novel? Tue, 22 Nov 2011 08:12:19 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_803545 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_803545 Applejacks Good advice! Thank you, but I don't know what my genre is specifically. Maybe sciencef-fantasy and horror? Maybe I should finish it and find out later. Tue, 22 Nov 2011 08:14:43 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_803560 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_803560 Applejacks At least you have something. Do you have more written and just didn't update your word count? Tue, 22 Nov 2011 08:15:49 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_803566 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_803566 Artaud_Damaged 2113 is all I have. Tue, 22 Nov 2011 08:46:59 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_803783 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_803783 Artaud_Damaged Graphic Novels bore me. In my mind Absurd, Surreal and Bizarro go hand in hand with sex, violence and gore. I didn't think this forum was for Sci-fi/Fantasy. (Lord of the Rings has nothing in common with El Topo, Star Wars has nothing in common with Tetsuo or Eraserhead) Fantasy fiction is not the same as Surreal Literature. The NeverEnding Story is Fantasy. Un chien andalou is surreal. And just because your story is dark does not make it weird/Bizarro. Tim Burton films are dark and I can't think of anything more mainstream than that. Tue, 22 Nov 2011 09:03:39 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_803886 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_803886 Saker Pup [quote=Artaud_Damaged]In my mind Absurd, Surreal and Bizarro go hand in hand with sex, violence and gore.[/quote] Seconded. However, I can't possibly dismiss a story as being not-this-genre without either reading it or getting a much more detailed synopsis than has thus far been posted. [This statement is not in any way directed at the author of the story in question. <em>DO NOT DO THIS.</em> Focus on writing your story right now.] Especially when considering the fact that sci-fi/fantasy/horror have a good bit of representation within Bizarro (for example: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Razor-Wire-Pubic-Carlton-Mellick/dp/0972959815/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1321996126&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow">Razor Wire Pubic Hair</a>: sci-fi and horror elements but the story and the style are entirely Bizarro). <strong>Applejacks:</strong> Write whatever the fuck you want, that's the point here. If you don't want it to be graphic, don't write it graphic (if you don't want graphic, you likely won't be able to write graphic <em>well</em> anyway and graphic not done well reads as melodrama which is pretty much hot death). If you want to write it as a graphic novel, go for it. Note that you don't have to be an artist to write a graphic novel: you can script it and pitch it to a publisher and if they like it, they will find an artist to make it happen. Tue, 22 Nov 2011 15:19:10 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_807682 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_807682 Applejacks It is Bizarro/ weird, (otherwise, I would not have mentioned it in this section), but there are other elements and genres as well. I *wanted* it to be something more common so it could get noticed, but as I write/rewrite and edit (this moment), I realize, *this* is what it is: weird/Bizarro (with other genres and other elements.) No one else would know since I'm the only one that writes the manuscript and constantly changes it. Thank you for your thoughts. Tue, 22 Nov 2011 15:52:10 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_808117 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_808117 Applejacks Thank you for understanding since I'm constantly editing this story and still trying to 'shape' it. I can do violence and I don't know how to write gore too well, but as far as sex goes I'm always very subtle about it, if not, I'd be very shy about letting others read it. I worry I won't write it so well if I get too detailed, but I can always practice and add it in later. Tue, 22 Nov 2011 16:23:20 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_808517 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_808517 doomented Alfred Jarry, Leonora Carrington, Benjamin Peret, Rene Daumal, Robert Desnos (Liberty Or Love! is a must read), Guillaume Apollinaire, Joyce Mansour, Andre Breton, Tristan Tzara, Kurt Schwitters, Gerard de Nerval. A good resource is "The Custom-House of Desire" edited by J.H. Matthews. Wed, 23 Nov 2011 03:26:31 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_815677 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_815677 bekkiii My MC just met her self-destructive side, taking the shape of a half-wolf, half-woman savage warrior/archer called the Wildflower, but she doesn't know it yet. Also, she is following a bearded dwarf to the top of a mountain peak in order to open a shiny red package that can't be opened anywhere else than on that top (logic!). The Doctor who accompanies her doesn't have a fish head anymore - yay! - she's now a bushy male lumberjack wearing various bracelets. At least, I think they are going to that mountain top now, they spent the last five pages listening to the dwarf's tales about his life, and oddly enough it turns out that he once roamed the seas with the evil ship that my MC and the Doctor visited in the first chapter. Somehow I have a feeling that the pair the Doctor and the Dwarf just has to become a TV show at some point, with a catchy name such as that Wed, 23 Nov 2011 11:14:55 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_818772 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_818772 DudelRok My thoughts are that I really like me some Sgt Frog, which is absurdism at it's finest. It's a Manga and an Anime, both totally badshit insane for no reason other than to be batshit insane. We're not even talking "lol crazy Japanese weirdness" this stuff is just odd in all the right ways. Also like me a ton of Saturday Morning Cartoons, and similar antics, which are absurdist by their very nature. These things are sold as something else in order to gain popularity... but my main thoughts would be not to worry about publication at all, and to ignore any peanut gallery spokesmen or elitist who says something is or isn't something else (when it's a subjective opinion). It all comes in flavors. I like the childish innocent flavor, others like it more adult and mature. (Eh? That sounds wrong.) Wed, 23 Nov 2011 23:51:26 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_827268 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_827268 DudelRok [quote=Saker Pup]<strong>Makin' (lop-eared, dream cloud) babies:</strong> Anyone. Figure out what your character likes, what she's attracted to in a partner, then either give it to her or make her take it by force.[/quote] What if we want to find out what characters specifically don't want, and force this upon them instead? I find that more fun. XD Wed, 23 Nov 2011 23:52:10 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_827277 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_827277 DudelRok Wait... what about a fish head? Did I miss something somewhere? I feel like I missed something somewhere. Wed, 23 Nov 2011 23:53:55 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_827291 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_827291 Saker Pup [quote=DudelRok]Wait... what about a fish head?[/quote] *flails wildly in as subtle a manner as she is capable of* Stage-whisper: <em>Hey, over <a href="http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forum_comments/183726" rel="nofollow">here</a>...</em> Thu, 24 Nov 2011 02:59:08 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_828414 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_828414 Applejacks I despise my story, now that it has lost all its charming and whimsical elements. (Stupid me being swayed so easily) It doesn't even look like something I would write, so I'm starting over with the exception of the first chapter that has retained those elements. There is no way I'm going to finish this story by the end of the month with all the essays and studying I have to do. This is wonderful because maybe I can pick a daily word count goal and stick with it and by the end of next month, I will be finished! Thu, 24 Nov 2011 08:51:16 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_829790 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_829790 Applejacks Thank you for your thoughts! I'm no longer concerned with publication or how it is percieved. Thu, 24 Nov 2011 09:19:50 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_829961 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_829961 Saker Pup [quote=DudelRok]It all comes in flavors. I like the childish innocent flavor, others like it more adult and mature.[/quote] I agree with you completely. Thu, 24 Nov 2011 09:42:57 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_830117 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_830117 bekkiii She's quite used to her shapes by now. She's already gone through being a human-moth blend and a floating, talking apple. Thu, 24 Nov 2011 10:53:02 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_830656 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_830656 Saker Pup [quote=bekkiii]a human-moth blend[/quote] This intrigues me. Thu, 24 Nov 2011 19:24:18 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_834809 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_834809 DudelRok O I C People expected me to read the whole thread. (Psst, I didn't.) Fri, 25 Nov 2011 02:56:33 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_838377 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_838377 DudelRok Two Things 1) I may or may not be bothering much more with NaNo. I still like my story but I mostly like it because I have been taking my time and only going at it when the mood strikes. (It is also so randomly fantastic!) If I make it, I make it. If I don't, I don't. (Who cares, anyway? NaNo's rules are stupid.) 2) If you REALLY want to "win" you can always add your essays to the word count. Should things get to a point where I give a crap, I'll add my RP posts which will give me an extra, say, 5 thousand words or so. Easily kicking me up in the numbers. (Keep back and forthing on that one.) And I lied, there is a third thing. 3) Glad to hear you are doing things the way you want to do them. Fri, 25 Nov 2011 03:00:54 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_838390 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_838390 DudelRok *drops an anvil on Saker Pup for no good reason* Sorry, I was out of pianos. Fri, 25 Nov 2011 03:02:27 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_838398 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_838398 Saker Pup Aww, but I love the piano-teeth gag... Guess I'll just have to make do with the huge-welt-that-rises-up-to-displace-the-anvil gag. (And there's a reason behind every action, regardless of whether you or anyone else knows what it is.) Fri, 25 Nov 2011 06:51:40 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_839191 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_839191 Saker Pup Nah, I wouldn't expect anybody to read the whole thread who didn't come in right at the beginning. Have you noticed how long the nesting makes the pages? If you view this thread in flat mode, it is at least 20 pages long... Fri, 25 Nov 2011 06:56:26 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_839217 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_839217 DudelRok I said no GOOD reason. Not "no reason at all." Fri, 25 Nov 2011 10:44:58 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_840666 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_840666 DudelRok Flat also makes the thread make that much less sense. Fri, 25 Nov 2011 10:47:18 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_840684 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_840684 Saker Pup Yes, if you read the thread in flat mode it really lives up to its title. Sat, 26 Nov 2011 03:41:28 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_849807 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_849807 Applejacks Yeah, the story will be more appealing to come back to if I take my time. :) Sat, 26 Nov 2011 14:20:39 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_853684 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_853684 Saker Pup So... the surviving members of the bizarro thread are all officially rebelling? Neat. Unrelated: Been listening to <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW8OTYoOLN4" rel="nofollow">Icon of Coil</a> a lot (also <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy5Ld9XDHiA" rel="nofollow">God Module</a>--note: <a rel="nofollow">original version of that song</a> by The Cure; it is a study in subtle differences). Tue, 29 Nov 2011 14:05:09 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_889318 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_889318 DudelRok First two were cool. Third was broke-sen. And rebelling next year, abso-freaking-lutly. This year I'm just... done. Tue, 29 Nov 2011 23:21:32 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_896162 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_896162 sshank I definitely don't think that absurd and surreal writing goes hand in hand with sex, violence and gore. A lot of incredible absurd and surreal writing has none of the above--a lot of my favorite, in fact. Perhaps it is true for bizarro, though. Wed, 30 Nov 2011 00:56:22 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_897194 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_897194 Saker Pup [quote=DudelRok]First two were cool. Third was broke-sen.[/quote] Damn. Coulda sworn I checked those links before posting... <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE1nu67-U2I&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">Trying again</a>. It's the same title as the God Module song and I'm pretty sure it's on the sidebar as a suggestion (in case I fuck this up again somehow). However, it's really nothing like the cover--if you've ever listened to the Cure at all, even just a little, you can pretty much guess with some accuracy <em>exactly</em> how it sounds. Wed, 30 Nov 2011 03:39:08 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_898072 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_898072 Saker Pup Intriguing... Proceed. Wed, 30 Nov 2011 03:42:01 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_898084 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_898084 rrc Maybe, it's a distinct possibility... Fri, 02 Dec 2011 01:22:23 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_921238 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_921238 Applejacks Who here is getting their work critiqued? Wed, 07 Dec 2011 14:37:06 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_947255 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_947255 Saker Pup Not I. My novel remains unfinished--also, it's not in a state that's fit to be viewed by human eyes... Sat, 10 Dec 2011 13:40:39 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_959369 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_959369 TANK Ex Mortis Any of youse guys around for summer camp? Tue, 15 May 2012 20:48:11 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_1372238 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_1372238 kreibebe [quote=TANK Ex Mortis] Any of youse guys around for summer camp? [/quote] , yep. i'm doing june this year. think the present british government; even worse television than we have at present (well, it IS fiction, after all), opiates, mysticism and the spiritual side to alcohol-related dementia. and sexual tension, probably. and i shall be writing it to navicon torture technologies. you've been warned. *k* Sat, 19 May 2012 14:04:16 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_1382102 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_1382102 TANK Ex Mortis Sounds wonderful, especially the bad television and sexual tension. Sun, 20 May 2012 12:42:03 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_1384527 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/other-genres/threads/1742?page=3#forum_thread_comment_1384527