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Going mute from an arrow (and questions on said muteness)

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Chronophobia
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Exactly what it says. When my MMC was six, he was hit with an arrow from a distance meant to kill him, but his family used magic to save him but he was mute. While it'd be easier to say he went mute from the magic, in his world that would be fixable and most likely would wear off after so many years, so I need an injury that would leave him permanently mute, assuming it's guaranteed to heal enough to save his life. Also, disease is out of the question because the attack is a major plot point. It's also medieval, if that helps any. It can't be something like, say, and arrow to the face, either, since any scars he has aren't easily noticed at first glance, if noticed at all. (So he can't lose his tongue or something equally strange).
Preferably doesn't leave any other serious consequences, but please tell me if it would.

Also, if you could tell me exactly what noises he'd be able to make after receiving the injury, that would be great. (Such as laughing, the sounds you make while crying, etc.)

Wulfila
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Perhaps his larynx was damaged beyond repair?

Lizardhound

He went mute from shock and trauma. No actual injury to his vocal chords or tongue, but he can't speak because something in his brain locked up.

Calista.Artemis
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This is what I was going to post. Trauma is a good way for someone to go mute.

Chronophobia
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Well, I said it needed to be an injury because magic would easily fix everything else. Thanks for the suggestion, though.

Lizardhound

He gets a real bad injury which makes him go into shock. When he gets out he has been badly traumatized and doesn't speak.

Relocation
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Not that I know your world, but logically I think magic's a lot more likely to cure injury than mental trauma...

Itzika
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Yeah, this. Whenever I see magic messing with the mind in stories, it's either not permanent or ends up badly. This is the only way it makes sense to me. Otherwise, well... This would probably lead to a dystopia where people's "disorders" are "fixed" by magic so that they have all the values the government wants and none of the ones they don't. If you can fix mental trauma with magic, you can pretty much do anything else to the mind, and that is commonly known as Bad News.

nawilla
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Where is he hit with the arrow? If you want the arrow to cause muteness, it either has to hit the throat structures where the voice is generated or through the head to hit brain areas that allow for speaking. (I know some aspects of speech derive from the Broca's area, but there are others that could work.)

Also, inability to speak is not the same as muteness. Depending on the mechanism, he may still be able to make vocal sounds, if not words.

Other possibilities are selective mutism (which is psychologically based even though in some mental states patients actually CAN'T speak), non-arrow damage to the vocal cords (maybe something happened when they were trying to open the airway or were suctioning blood if he was bleeding into his airway), or non-arrow brain issues (maybe the wound threw a clot that migrated to the speech-producing areas of the brain, causing a stroke.

Clixe
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I've got a pretty similar question, and I figured I wouldn't make a new topic about it since there exist already quite a few about muteness. But what I wanted to know and not have been able to find so far, is: if the vocal cords are damaged, is there other damage that automaticly goes with it, like breathing problems? (don't know what the vocal cords are for, other than speaking). Or maybe damage that most of the time goes with it?
Also, if a character is unable to speak from birth or from a very young age, would she still be able to understand other people speaking perfectly? (because I think part of learning a language is being able to try the words for yourself and be corrected by parrents or other. Altough I'm not quite sure).

Morgwyn
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Maybe I can help. My daughter had a tracheostomy tube from the age of 5 months until she was 2 1/2, before that she was on a ventilator. She has vocal chord damage that is probably due to scars left by the vent tubes rubbing against her vocal chords / folds. Additional damage was done to her vocal chords because of reflux (basically, stomach acid eating away at the soft tissues).

I would think that you could have vocal chord damage without having breathing problems.

My daughter could understand people speaking to her as well as any other 2 1/2 year old, even though she was unable to speak. She is now 12 years old and still has speaking difficulties due to the damage (mostly reduced volume and a huskiness that makes her sound like a 4 pack a day smoker). Some of her difficulties are because she has to concentrate to make the differences between sounds like "puh" (p), "buh" (b) and "tuh" (t) . There isn't a problem with her hearing, but because she didn't learn to make these sounds as an infant the differences don't come as naturally to her. We and her teachers are unsure how much of her difficulty in reading / spelling are the result of learning delays and dyslexia and how much is due to how she processes language due to the delay in speaking. For example, she spells much better when someone else is sounding out the word than when she is. Her understanding of spoken language and her "reading comprehension" scores when material is read to her is at or above grade level.

Clixe
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Thank you, that was pretty much exactly what I wanted to know :)

onesecondglance
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Morgwyn wrote:I would think that you could have vocal chord damage without having breathing problems.


Yes, I think you could.

What we call vocal cords are more accurately described as vocal folds. They are flaps of tissue, one on each side of your throat. When you vocalise they expand out and meet in the middle - think of it like a pair of automatic doors opening and closing. This modulates the airflow and creates noise. Syllables - shaping the noise into words - do NOT come from the vocal folds, and instead come from the tongue and soft palate reshaping the noise.

To make higher noises they move more frequently and faster. It takes practice to move them faster (like using any muscle), which is why some people can sing higher than others. To make lower noises they have to move slowly. The tone of someone's voice is essentially how quickly their vocal folds move together "normally".

To make louder noises they more further, retracting back further and coming back in to still meet in the middle, which is why your voice might "break" when you shout if the folds don't fully meet. If you don't shout "correctly" then the folds will bang together and get bruised, which means you can't move them as fast or as far, which is why you lose your voice after shouting. To whisper they stay in the middle and sorta rub together, which is a REALLY bad thing if you have bruised your vocal folds from shouting. So if you lose your voice, speak normally and don't whisper.

The way your vocal folds move is unconscious, like breathing or walking. You can train the muscles to improve them, but you can't consciously think about moving them. Their natural position is open, so they don't affect airflow. You have a bit more conscious control over the way you move your tongue and soft palate, but you don't think about it all the time (like riding a bike, once you've learned you don't have to think about it but you can if you want).

In terms of going mute, you have a couple of routes. First, you could make the trauma of the injury remove the procedural memory for how to move the vocal folds. If you had to think about walking you'd likely fall over - same with using your vocal folds. So your character would be physically unable to speak and would only make vague wailing noises. You could move the effect of the memory trauma to the tongue and soft palate. So you can use your vocal folds, but you have forgotten how to articulate the noises into words. Your character has forgotten how to ride the bike and needs to re-learn.

Both of these physiological reasons for muteness would be accompanied with psychological barriers. If you found you were unable to speak you would be quite traumatised by that in itself, and that could make you not *want* to speak. A vicious cycle that would take a lot to get you out of it.

If you (somehow) did physical damage to the vocal folds you would leave someone with a raspy, post-tracheotomy voice. The tongue and soft palate can shape words, but there's no airflow to make them with. Everything would sound like an exhalation. How you'd do this is questionable though, as to get to the vocal folds you'd have to put the arrow through a lot of blood vessels and much of the trachea. Surviveability is tricky.

If you damaged the mouth area you could get the opposite effect - vocal folds fine, tongue or soft palate affected - but you'd have to put the arrow through their face to go that.

The other route you have (possibly simpler) is to avoid going down the physical route altogether and ascribe the muteness to PTSD. So your MC has the physical ability to speak, but they are traumatised to the point of not being able to. You'd need a pretty big or sudden trauma to cause this, so maybe this arrow that hits them might be part of a bigger attack where something else horrible happens (maybe a friend or family member dies in front of them). I'm not sure just being hit by the arrow is enough to believeably give them PTSD unless the other circumstances were pretty dire, although your MC is / was very young so you might get away with it.

Of course, you have magic in your universe so you could just have magic poison that renders them mute. "A wizard did it" is a great excuse!

theInsane
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since this thread is pretty old, i'm going to assume that the OP's question has been answered... and i'm going to hijack the thread.

what injury can i give my character that will result in a permanently hoarse or otherwise damaged voice?
details are flexible but the person should be able to function pretty normally - so no paralysis or severe damage to the trachea or spine. I do not want or need total mutism... just a bit of difficulty speaking.
it does need to be an injury though, not a birth defect or the result of smoking or a disease or anything.
medical help - well, that's also somewhat up in the air, but lets say definitely no hospitals and no magic.

thanks in advance!

Limited Edition

What kind of genre is it? I mean, you could have a slit throat, I guess, if it were done so that they didn't bleed out. That would be my first thought. But then, that depends on whether medical technology is advanced enough to save them, so probably modern-ish level or greater. But then, if you're doing something more magicky, it could again be completely different. So, um. I guess it depends?

nawilla
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Pretty much the same answers apply, damage to the vocal cords or damage to the brain area. Just less damage.

Additionally, if you just want difficulty speaking, not total muteness. damage to the muscles or nerves in the face, damage to the tongue, tooth loss, could all make speaking difficult. Injury to the voice box (a good blow to the neck will also do that) could inhibit speaking. And a good knock to the head/small stroke could lead to slurring and speaking difficulties without eliminating speech.

For an example of slurred speech due to tongue/jaw surgery (which an injury could mimic), see Anne Ramsey's performances in 'Throw Momma From the Train' and 'Goonies'.

For an example of speech issues from stroke, see Kirk Douglas in 'It Runs in the Family'.

Hope that helps.

theInsane
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yeah, i figured the same answers would mostly apply but i was hoping that the fact that the character isn't totally mute would it more believable that said character survived the injury.

thanks for the info. :-)

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