I fell off the NaNo wagon this year and sank into a 17,000+ word hole. Don't know what happened, but I'm ready to continue my novel, now.
Just one thing: although my laptop writing software has a word-count feature, of course, I miss the NaNo counting construct and I long for the repeating bar STAT page...
My NaNo dream: a year-long, novel-upload, word-counting and STAT page where, after November, the word-tracking bar color of blue changes to a custom color (non-blue) for whatever duration a user defines: one month, two, nine, twelve, or longer, a user-determined novel length and the target daily word count calculated by the software. This would be a contest only between the author and her/himself -- no stress, and certainly welcome, but no need for supportive feedback, or cheerleading by OLL, or others, just a graphical word-counting engine for committed writers who are looking for a disciplinary path. It could be a paid, or separate donation-required service for year-round maintenance. It could be the answer for those/us scribes seeking just a little added structure...
Is MyNoWri an unrealistic dream -- or, a future branch of a growing tree of possibilities in our steadily burgeoning, blossoming NaNo?
This is a great idea; I'll move this down to the Suggestions forum, where such wonderful ideas are shared. :) (We do collect and pass them along to HQ.)
But if they had that, it'd sort of take the pressure off people to do it in a month. I mean, we would no longer look forward to November/Camp NaNo/April to do our novels/scripts. It wouldn't really be special anymore if you could do it anytime (and I'm not saying you can't, all on your own, but November's a recognized thing for novel-writing-extravaganzas). Plus, if you could set it to any time limit you want, why would you set it at 1 month when there are so many other, easier options? NaNo's goal is an unchanging thing, and I believe that's why most people take its challenge. I mean, I could've done YWP, but I knew I'd go too easy on myself. I probably would do that if MyNoWri was real. It's a nice thought, though. ^_^
I disagree. It would be customizable and wouldn't count at all toward Script Frenzy, Camp, or NaNoWriMo.
I would go farther and suggest it be a downloadable program that we pay for, used completely offsite. If twelve months are included then all anybody has to do is input their wordcount goal for a given month (programming might have to include February being customizable to accomodate leap years). It would take some time to develop, but there are a lot of WriMos who would be happy to pay a small fee for a program like that. Heck, there are non-WriMos who would be happy to pay for a program like that.
As to the different colors for the progress bars, it could be a very simple choice of blue, red, green or yellow. No need to get all fancy. In time an expansion pack or patch could be released (for another small fee) with more options for customizing.
Extra note: I'd love to be able to choose one or two days off per week and adjust the daily goals accordingly, but I could certainly do without that feature.
Summing up: I would pay money for this! I would consider it an investment in my writing business. I might even buy multiple copies for other authors as my publishing company grows.
I'm hoping to develop this (or something very similar to this) with the yii framework; I have jotted down notes with some requirements (data structure definitions, etc). If there are developers who are interested in helping, we could make this an open source project.
My thought is to let people define a "contest" (which I am calling a Journey Path) that others can join. The "contest" would have a defined start and end date and nominal wordcount target. There would be an extended wordcount API (I'm the guy who originally designed the wcapi with Russ/firebus) and graphs and defined novels and user profiles. Users could have multiple novels associated with their profiles; the novels could even be associated with multiple "contests" and each "contest" would have wordcount graphs associated with it (a little like I did with the faces tool this year, with a ranked table of wordcount and participants below the graph).
I certainly look on this as something that my writing group (the Journey) needs for the rest of the year around NaNo.
I'm actually considering writing something similar, but probably with an entirely different use-case (I am a desktop software developer - web development didn't take with me). Basically, a stand-alone app that communicates to the web and provides customizable goals over multiple novels, with challenges for a month, a day, and a year (possibly with a custom length). It would be able to track challenges with groups or individuals through the web interface. Oh, and it provides lots of statistics and graphs, because those are useful.
I've slung some code around, done a little design, but not started in earnest yet, but want to have this for my own uses next year at the latest. I work on a lot of projects have have different goals for myself (and different types of goals!), so it's helpful for me to be able to track all that.
'So happy I'm not dreaming alone! All we need is a NaNo Fairy Godmother...
Thanks DragonChilde for the relocation, and Lady_indis_Dress, I like your MyNoWri addenda: a fully customizable and downloadable NaNo Machine, for a small fee, would be perfect for committed writers, as well as a branded tool that would help $upport OLL in its many writing events...
Either way, online, or off, I hope "Godmother" is listening... :).
NewMexicoKid: "Journey" is intrigiuing... a whole other thing...
Thank your, or is it your welcome? I would really find that kind of program immensely helpful. I'm not a motivated self-starter. The graph helps me a lot.
Bump, although I'd rather have it on site. With all of the hard-core nanoers that stick around all year to distract me:P It'd be cool if there was a graph that showed what you wrote through the year, and then could be compared to how well you in November. Or one where you could enter your time limit and word goal. Or the same 50k in a month, reset every month. Like nano every month except without pep talks and winner goodies and all the encouragement from OLL. And stuff. Or you could do one month starting whenever you wanted, not neccesarily from the 1-30. Or we could just steal the customizable word count thing from YWP and make it so you could use it whenever you wanted, time goals and stuff. Okay, now I really want this feature:P
There's really no need to bump threads in this forum. Right now, it's slow enough that it's staying on the front page anyway, and we don't review suggestions based on where they appear in the forum nor how popular they are. Suggestions are implemented based on feasibility and whether or not they fit with the overall vision for NaNoWriMo, as well as time and complexity restraints.
MyNoWri
I fell off the NaNo wagon this year and sank into a 17,000+ word hole. Don't know what happened, but I'm ready to continue my novel, now.
Just one thing: although my laptop writing software has a word-count feature, of course, I miss the NaNo counting construct and I long for the repeating bar STAT page...
My NaNo dream: a year-long, novel-upload, word-counting and STAT page where, after November, the word-tracking bar color of blue changes to a custom color (non-blue) for whatever duration a user defines: one month, two, nine, twelve, or longer, a user-determined novel length and the target daily word count calculated by the software. This would be a contest only between the author and her/himself -- no stress, and certainly welcome, but no need for supportive feedback, or cheerleading by OLL, or others, just a graphical word-counting engine for committed writers who are looking for a disciplinary path. It could be a paid, or separate donation-required service for year-round maintenance. It could be the answer for those/us scribes seeking just a little added structure...
Is MyNoWri an unrealistic dream -- or, a future branch of a growing tree of possibilities in our steadily burgeoning, blossoming NaNo?
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i would love this, i really want to finish my novel,but can't do it now that the deadlines are gone
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This is a great idea; I'll move this down to the Suggestions forum, where such wonderful ideas are shared. :) (We do collect and pass them along to HQ.)
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But if they had that, it'd sort of take the pressure off people to do it in a month. I mean, we would no longer look forward to November/Camp NaNo/April to do our novels/scripts. It wouldn't really be special anymore if you could do it anytime (and I'm not saying you can't, all on your own, but November's a recognized thing for novel-writing-extravaganzas). Plus, if you could set it to any time limit you want, why would you set it at 1 month when there are so many other, easier options? NaNo's goal is an unchanging thing, and I believe that's why most people take its challenge. I mean, I could've done YWP, but I knew I'd go too easy on myself. I probably would do that if MyNoWri was real.
It's a nice thought, though. ^_^
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I disagree. It would be customizable and wouldn't count at all toward Script Frenzy, Camp, or NaNoWriMo.
I would go farther and suggest it be a downloadable program that we pay for, used completely offsite. If twelve months are included then all anybody has to do is input their wordcount goal for a given month (programming might have to include February being customizable to accomodate leap years). It would take some time to develop, but there are a lot of WriMos who would be happy to pay a small fee for a program like that. Heck, there are non-WriMos who would be happy to pay for a program like that.
As to the different colors for the progress bars, it could be a very simple choice of blue, red, green or yellow. No need to get all fancy. In time an expansion pack or patch could be released (for another small fee) with more options for customizing.
Extra note: I'd love to be able to choose one or two days off per week and adjust the daily goals accordingly, but I could certainly do without that feature.
Summing up: I would pay money for this! I would consider it an investment in my writing business. I might even buy multiple copies for other authors as my publishing company grows.
Re: MyNoWri
I'm hoping to develop this (or something very similar to this) with the yii framework; I have jotted down notes with some requirements (data structure definitions, etc). If there are developers who are interested in helping, we could make this an open source project.
My thought is to let people define a "contest" (which I am calling a Journey Path) that others can join. The "contest" would have a defined start and end date and nominal wordcount target. There would be an extended wordcount API (I'm the guy who originally designed the wcapi with Russ/firebus) and graphs and defined novels and user profiles. Users could have multiple novels associated with their profiles; the novels could even be associated with multiple "contests" and each "contest" would have wordcount graphs associated with it (a little like I did with the faces tool this year, with a ranked table of wordcount and participants below the graph).
I certainly look on this as something that my writing group (the Journey) needs for the rest of the year around NaNo.
Re: MyNoWri
I'm actually considering writing something similar, but probably with an entirely different use-case (I am a desktop software developer - web development didn't take with me). Basically, a stand-alone app that communicates to the web and provides customizable goals over multiple novels, with challenges for a month, a day, and a year (possibly with a custom length). It would be able to track challenges with groups or individuals through the web interface. Oh, and it provides lots of statistics and graphs, because those are useful.
I've slung some code around, done a little design, but not started in earnest yet, but want to have this for my own uses next year at the latest. I work on a lot of projects have have different goals for myself (and different types of goals!), so it's helpful for me to be able to track all that.
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'So happy I'm not dreaming alone! All we need is a NaNo Fairy Godmother...
Thanks DragonChilde for the relocation, and Lady_indis_Dress, I like your MyNoWri addenda: a fully customizable and downloadable NaNo Machine, for a small fee, would be perfect for committed writers, as well as a branded tool that would help $upport OLL in its many writing events...
Either way, online, or off, I hope "Godmother" is listening... :).
NewMexicoKid: "Journey" is intrigiuing... a whole other thing...
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Thank your, or is it your welcome? I would really find that kind of program immensely helpful. I'm not a motivated self-starter. The graph helps me a lot.
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The downloadable NaNo Machine would be really cool! I'd get it.
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Bump, although I'd rather have it on site. With all of the hard-core nanoers that stick around all year to distract me:P
It'd be cool if there was a graph that showed what you wrote through the year, and then could be compared to how well you in November. Or one where you could enter your time limit and word goal.
Or the same 50k in a month, reset every month. Like nano every month except without pep talks and winner goodies and all the encouragement from OLL. And stuff.
Or you could do one month starting whenever you wanted, not neccesarily from the 1-30.
Or we could just steal the customizable word count thing from YWP and make it so you could use it whenever you wanted, time goals and stuff.
Okay, now I really want this feature:P
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Yeah. I really want this too. Wouldn't it be nice if there was a poll where we could choose our top three wants from the suggestions list?
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THIS.
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ALSO BUMP.
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There's really no need to bump threads in this forum. Right now, it's slow enough that it's staying on the front page anyway, and we don't review suggestions based on where they appear in the forum nor how popular they are. Suggestions are implemented based on feasibility and whether or not they fit with the overall vision for NaNoWriMo, as well as time and complexity restraints.
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That's fair.