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Chris Baty
50127 words so far Winner!

Hello 2011 Wrimos,

I’m the developer of a software program for writers called Scrivener, and just as we have done for the past couple of years, I’d like to offer all 2011 NaNoWriMo winners the chance to get Scrivener for only 50% of its usual price. (And the great news is that Scrivener is now available for both Mac and Windows, so you can use your coupon on either - or both, if you buy a licence for each at the same time.)

Full information about Scrivener can be found here:

http://www.literatureandlatte.com/scrivener.php

(Note that at the time of writing, Scrivener for Windows is still in the final rounds of beta-testing, so the above page has yet to be updated to show the Windows version as well as the Mac version. The Windows version will be officially released on 31st October, with a special NaNo trial version coming out before then (see below). In the meantime, however, you are free to try out the public beta - details can be found here: http://www.scrivenerforwindows.com)

What is Scrivener?
Scrivener is designed specifically to help hammer out the first draft of a long text such as a novel, finding its structure along the way. It allows you to keep multiple text documents in the same project, to navigate between them fluidly and easily, and to view them separately or combined (so, for instance, you could write and edit scenes individually or pull back to see them in the context of the chapter or entire draft whenever you want). You can also look at two documents alongside one another, or import and refer to research such as PDF documents, images, web pages and media files, right next to your writing. To help you structure your draft, there is an outliner and a virtual corkboard: you can assign a synopsis to each text chunk in the project and thus build up an overview in the the corkboard and outliner, which you can then use to rearrange the text or mark out new scenes or chapters that need writing.

All of these tools are designed to be entirely flexible - you can meticulously outline everything before you start, if you like, or you can hammer out your first draft and use the structuring features for the revision process. So it doesn't matter whether you're a plotter, a "pantser" (my Mac's autocorrect wants me to say "panther"), or something in-between.

Here are some (slightly warped) screenshots:



I wrote Scrivener because it's the tool I wanted for my own writing. I was fed up with having multiple chapters written in Word scattered around my hard drive, trying to sort through all my notes and research, attempting to organise and get an overview of everything. Scrivener isn't the sort of writing software that presumes to tell you how to write (I'm not a fan of that sort of software myself - nor am I anyone to tell others how to write); instead it just provides a number of tools that I hope are a lot more geared towards organising and hammering out a first draft than a standard word processor. (It's not intended to replace a standard word processor, though - when you've finished your draft you can print it or export it for tweaking and polishing in your word processor of choice.) I'm not going to claim everybody needs this sort of software or any such nonsense, but if like me you've ever struggled with getting an overview of your novel and keeping all of its disparate threads and ideas together, then I hope you'll give it a whirl, and I'd be delighted if in some small way it helps some of you attain your 50,000 words this year. (If you like the idea but Scrivener just doesn't suit you, there are lots of alternatives on our links page, by the way.)

We have all sorts of writers using Scrivener, from Hugo-award winners and Booker long-listed authors to struggling hopefuls. (Fans of the great Danish TV show [i]The Killing[/i] may be interested to know that the novelisation of [i]The Killing[/i] is currently being written in Scrivener by crime author David Hewson, who has loads of great tips on using Scrivener to write novels over on his blog: http://www.davidhewson.com/blog/category/scrivener.) It's not only for novel-writing, either; Scrivener is also used by screenwriters, comic book artists, lawyers, journalists, academics, students and many others. You can see what some of the published authors who use Scrivener have to say about it here:

http://www.literatureandlatte.com/testimonials.php

Right, enough of the hard sell!

Special NaNoWriMo Scrivener Trial Version
As always, we want to try to make it as easy as possible to use Scrivener during this year's NaNoWriMo for those who are interested in doing so. For that reason, late in October we will be releasing a special NaNoWriMo 2011 trial version of Scrivener. Normally, Scrivener's free trial period lasts for 30 non-consecutive days. This means that it doesn't run out until you have used it on thirty different days (so if you used it only twice a week, it would last fifteen weeks, for instance). But of course, you are going to want to try out Scrivener before November starts to see if you will be comfortable writing your 50,000 words in it, and after the month ends, if you decide that Scrivener isn't for you (although obviously I hope you will love it and decide to continue using it!), you will want to get your work out again after the month has finished. And that's more than thirty days of use.

For these reasons, the special NaNo trial version will run up until the 7th December, so that you have October to get used to it and the first week of December to decide if you want to continue using it and buy a licence, or export your work and continue in your regular word processor.

You'll be able to download the special NaNo trial version - for Mac and Windows - here:

http://www.literatureandlatte.com/nanowrimo.php

(The above link won't go live until later in October.)

Aside from the different trial period, there are no differences between the NaNo trial version and the regular trial version.

Special offer for all NaNoWriMo participants
On to the offer! Scrivener 2.0 for the Mac normally costs a mere $45 (or $38.25 for students), and, to reflect the fact that it will be catching up with the Mac version for a little while yet, Scrivener 1.0 for Windows will have a regular price of $40 ($35 for students). But we are offering a further 20%-off discount on Scrivener's full price throughout November and December. To use it, just go to our product page, click on "Buy Now", select the regular licence and enter "NANOWRIMO" in the "Coupon Code" text field in the top right of the web store.

You might want to hold out until the end of November, though, because all winners of this year's NaNoWriMo will be eligible for a 50% discount. Winners will receive a special coupon for this on their winner's page on the NaNoWriMo site at the end of November, once their word count has been confirmed.

Note to Linux Users
Although we don't plan on releasing an official Linux version for some time yet (because we're a tiny company focussing on one platform at a time, making sure we can support each platform as well as possible), we do release unofficial Linux builds ported from our Windows version - essentially the Linux version will remain in "free beta" mode until such time as we can put the extra love and attention into it to make it release-ready. We don't publicise it widely because of this, but we have a sub-forum dedicated to Linux here: http://www.literatureandlatte.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=33.

Note to Last Year's Winners
Last year we promised winners that they would be able to use their 50% coupon codes on our Windows version when it was finally released. The Windows version was delayed - we had hoped to release it earlier this year - but if you won last year, don't worry, we are still honouring that promise. We have extended last year's winners' coupons so that they will continue to work until the end of this year.

Hello Scrivener users
Any existing Scrivener users will be able to pass on their 50% coupon to a friend, of course. And if any Scrivener users reading this would care to share how they have used Scrivener for NaNoWriMo in the past, or pass on any tips they have, I'd love to read your comments in replies to this thread.

Anyway, I hope some Mac- and Windows-using Wrimos decide to give Scrivener a whirl this year if you haven't already tried it - be sure to let me know in the replies to this thread how you get on, and feel free to ask us any questions. We will be monitoring and answering questions in this thread throughout November, along with answering technical support queries in our regular forums:

http://www.literatureandlatte.com/forum

You can also email us directly through through:
mac@literatureandlatte.com or
windows@literatureandlatte.com

Thanks for reading. Good luck with the getting those 50,000 words, whatever you use!

All the best,
Keith


MODERATOR NOTE: Hey guys! This is just a quick request to please not ask for special offer codes in this forum. There is a dedicated thread stickied in the Life After NaNoWriMo forum for those who have them available to offer. Thanks!

Byronicwoman
17300 words so far

started using scrivener during nano last year. love. it. am waiting patiently for the betas to be done on the windows version. i'm so excited!

zDave40
56599 words so far Winner!

I'm not replying to the previous post, but I want this to show up. It is now almost noon on Dec. 6, and I have not received a code yet. I have watched and waited for it. Apparently, others are in the same situation. We want to buy Scrivener at the discount for winners, but we aren't able to do so. Please tell us what's happening and what we can do!

blackswan
52213 words so far Winner!

zDave40 - This is all handled by the fabulous OLL team. They have to put up each of the codes manually, so it may just be taking a little longer to get everything up and running. The Scrivener discount code is good until next October and the CreateSpace code until next June, so you don't have to worry about missing out on using them. If you're concerned, I recommend contacting the OLL staff, as they'll have a better idea of what's going on and be able to get things sorted with you directly rather than trying to use this forum thread (which I know DragonChilde has been moderating and graciously responding to regarding the codes, but it will be easier for them and you to handle this directly). Thanks for your interest in Scrivener and congratulations on your 50K words!

psionpete
51493 words so far Winner!

What is the OLL team? and how do I get in touch with them?

I am in the same boat as zDave40, my Scrivener trial has now finished and I want to purchase it, so I need a code...Pretty please.

Dragonchilde
9322 words so far

psionpete wrote:
What is the OLL team? and how do I get in touch with them?

I am in the same boat as zDave40, my Scrivener trial has now finished and I want to purchase it, so I need a code...Pretty please.


Since you validated as a winner, your winner codes should be available. Look on the front page (dashboard) where the Procrastination Station used to be. The Winner Prizes block has a link that will take you to your code.

Qe_pa
76679 words so far Winner!

I'm beta-testing right now and I love this software! I look forward to using it for my NaNoNovel this year and have every intention of buying the PC version when it's released.

Sonya Faugno
52111 words so far Winner!

Hi all,

I do like Scrivener, for the way it is set up. It's really easy to find different parts of the book, like if you are looking up a passage or want to edit. However, I have a big problem with losing things. When I try to move files around or rename files, they often move on me and I have to fish them out of the trash or find what other folder they had migrated to.

Well, today was really frustrating, because, I not only lost the 500 words I typed this morning, but somehow also lost 400 words that I had typed last night. They are not in the trash and I can't seem to find them in any other folders. I was trying to rename my chapters and scenes and now they are gone.

For this reason I don't like the auto save. It saves and I can't go back to where I was when I had last saved my work, so now it's all lost.

I haven't given up on Scrivener yet, but I'm very frustrated.

Sonya Faugno
52111 words so far Winner!

Yeah, I found them. They were buried two tiers deep in one of my notes folders. I did a word search for a new character name that I added today and it came up. (Plus I remembered that I had saved my Scrivener files to my dropbox last night. Hooray for backup day, but I'm glad I didn't have to use it!)

Lessons learned:
Using a mouse works way better for moving and renaming files than the laptop scroll pad.
Backups are good.
Find is powerful and awesome.

And on another note, I'm finding that having the project target window open is too slow for typing. With it open, Scrivener can't seem to keep up with the speed of my typing (which is not very fast at all.)

James203
27216 words so far

I know exactly what you mean. The autosave didn't...save. Which meant four and a half thousand words down the drain. Also, when I converted it to word, it came out as coding and the original file died. I had a hard copy, but now I will have to re type all of my (embarrassingly, only) 27 k words.

Carolf
65544 words so far Winner!

It may be too late now, but for future reference, Scrivener has an "Undo." It's the first item in the Edit menu.

It has saved my bacon more than once.

Errant Crow
3605 words so far

With the magpie configuration of my brain, I refuse to write for NaNoWriMo in any program but Scrivener. I even got my boss to buy Scrivener for my work computer when I got assigned to write our user guide...really Chris, I could kiss you, Scrivener has saved me that much misery. The guide is approaching 50,000 words. If I had to navigate and attempt to reorganze all of those sections, sub-sections, and topics in Word docs...

Nuh-uh. No. Nein. Nyet. Never.

If anyone is wondering about the usefulness of this product for NaNoWriMo, believe me, it will save you.
1: auto-save, aka you cannot lose your work due to a crash
2: binder, aka you can't lose a file in the depths of your hard drive
3: drag&drop reorganization, aka it takes seconds to put text snippets in the right order if you don't write in order
4: automatic word count at the bottom of the page for any combination of files
5: built in notes and research tools

...and that's my spiel.

hannahey
50004 words so far Winner!

TRUE! VVV

Errant Crow wrote:
With the magpie configuration of my brain, I refuse to write for NaNoWriMo in any program but Scrivener. I even got my boss to buy Scrivener for my work computer when I got assigned to write our user guide...really Chris, I could kiss you, Scrivener has saved me that much misery. The guide is approaching 50,000 words. If I had to navigate and attempt to reorganze all of those sections, sub-sections, and topics in Word docs...

Nuh-uh. No. Nein. Nyet. Never.

If anyone is wondering about the usefulness of this product for NaNoWriMo, believe me, it will save you.
1: auto-save, aka you cannot lose your work due to a crash
2: binder, aka you can't lose a file in the depths of your hard drive
3: drag&drop reorganization, aka it takes seconds to put text snippets in the right order if you don't write in order
4: automatic word count at the bottom of the page for any combination of files
5: built in notes and research tools

...and that's my spiel.


Mokso
28986 words so far

Don't forget project and session targets, which I really love.

writingsmurph
66356 words so far Winner!

Friday, October 21. Have been trying to access Scrivener via the posted links but they all take me to that dreaded "dead end" page. Is it just me or is something wrong with the link?

blackswan
52213 words so far Winner!

We had some server troubles early in the weekend, but everything's up and running again, so if you haven't already you should be able to head over to http://www.literatureandlatte.com/nanowrimo.php to download the trial.

--
Jennifer
Literature & Latte

PogiNate
50109 words so far Winner!

I've used Scrivener for all three years that I've done NaNoWriMo, as well as for a number of other projects. It's one of the finest pieces of software I've ever come across.

zeebell377
50013 words so far Winner!

I absolutely love Scrivener. I've had it on my Mac laptop for years, and use it for everything! This is such a treat for writers who don't already have this awesome software!

redtarget
5254 words so far

I love using Scrivener for NaNo. It is a great organizer for those of use who have a problem keeping everything together. I can not wait for the Windows version to get out of Beta. Using it in combination with DropBox means I can get to my files anywhere I have an internet connection.

Thank you so much for creating this program for us to use.

Mallorca Writer
29940 words so far

Hi, I am already 2 weeks into the Scrivener for Mac free trial, so I will go ahead and buy now. I have two questions. Is there something different about the special NaNoWriMo 2011 trial version that I won't get if I buy now? Also, can I use Writer or Die with Scrivener?
thanks

thepuppetmaster
31259 words so far

I can't wait for the PC version to become available! I really need it for my classes as well!

blackswan
52213 words so far Winner!

Errant Crow, PogiNate, zeebell377, redtarget, thepuppetmaster - Thank you all for the kind words! It's great to hear Scrivener is helping out with your various types of writing beyond NaNoWriMo.

Mallorca Writer - All that's different with the trial is that it includes a NaNoWriMo template, and you can download that separately from the trial offer page http://www.literatureandlatte.com/nanowrimo.php if you want. It's also a separate trial period from the standard one, lasting until Dec 7th rather than the usual 30 days, so for people just checking out the software it will allow daily use of the program all through November (plus this week beforehand and a week after). As for using Write or Die, there's no integration between the programs, but you can certainly type in Write or Die and then copy your text over into Scrivener.

Best of luck to everyone for reaching 50K next month!

--
Jennifer
Literature & Latte

GenetheGenie
50110 words so far Winner!

It's SO PRETTY. Fullscreen mode is beautiful, all empty except for what you're writing. ^___^

littlelummox
20078 words so far

Honestly, this coupon is so much motivation for me to finish my nano on time. Thank you!

MegaSpook

:o/ I still have my coupon from LAST year's Wrimo. Actually, I need to find that file, I can't remember where I saved it! Methinks I'll never get to use it though... I've officially been waiting for Scrivener full version for an entire year. *cries*

bernie_noble
50642 words so far Winner!

I agree. It is gorgeous.

xucaen
0 words so far

I've been playing around with Scrivener for Windows for about 20 minutes. I am sold! I'll be getting at least two licenses. Thanks!!!

xucaen
0 words so far

I have a quick question. I installed the Nanowrimo version of Scrivener, which appears to be v045. When I go to Help > Check for updates, it lets me install v049 but the notes says v049 will expire on the 7th November 2011. Does that mean if we intend to use Scrivener for the Nanowrimo project that we can't use it after Nov 7th?

olorinpc
2790 words so far

I think there might be a release version with the nano trial coming soon.

There have been some bug fixes obviously between the v045 nano trial and the regular beta of v049, though personally none of them I can see impacting a nano project where you are just trying to get text on the screen.

Best advise at the moment is that if you don't intend to purchase Scrivener until after Nano 2011 stick with the beta you have now. If you aren't worried and plan to purchase as soon as it becomes available, then go ahead and upgrade now. (If you want to use the 50% off coupon for winning nano, need to win first ;) )

blackswan
52213 words so far Winner!

A NaNoWriMo Trial update has been put up, so if you re-download from our offers page you'll be able to get the 049 update with the extended Dec 7th expiration date. Make sure to clear your browser cache first, as some browsers (especially Chrome) are bad about just regurgitating the old file rather than noticing there are changes and downloading the new one for you.

If you want the trial version that will last through to December, don't use the Check for Updates method, as that will give you the standard update which expires Nov 7th.

Cathyvon
52250 words so far Winner!

I want to thank you for Scrivener. I downloaded the NaNo trial and played a bit in October. Not only am I going to use this for my novel but I can see where it will help me immensely when I write my articles for the newspaper I work with. I will be able to keep all my pictures and research in one area along with my audio files. Excellent!

Thank you!!
Cat

Cathyvon
52250 words so far Winner!

I want to thank you for Scrivener. I downloaded the NaNo trial and played a bit in October. Not only am I going to use this for my novel but I can see where it will help me immensely when I write my articles for the newspaper I work with. I will be able to keep all my pictures and research in one area along with my audio files. Excellent!

Thank you!!
Cat

originalgradk
50474 words so far Winner!

I have trial on Windows PC now.

writinginpjs
50470 words so far Winner!

Hello
I'm using Scrivener for the first time for this year's novel.
I'm having trouble creating page numbers and a few other formatting issues. Where do I go to vet this out? I tried the 'help' menu in Scrivener but 'page numbers' gave me zero results.
Is there a tech forum on the program?

Niya

JLIvan
50028 words so far Winner!

OK...Chris, I just sent you a personal message regarding the software. My late-night brain read this as your own post. "Hmmm, wow. What a talented guy! He writes software, too!"
Oops! Please disregard my message. I'll send the e-mail on to the addresses above.
YAWN....

FXDaniels
50180 words so far Winner!

Just downloaded the NaNo trial version and am very excited to give it a try. I've wondered about these novel writing software programs for years but don't know anyone who uses them, and so have never had a chance to really try them out. But I like the idea. Couldn't let the opportunity for a full month's trial while writing a novel go by--thank you so much for making this happen. If the product is as good as your customer centricity and business approach then I'm sure I will love it! :)

angevine16
50019 words so far Winner!

I have used Scrivener for years now (I'm a Mac girl) and believe me when I say that *you need this software.* It is the best way to keep everything organized -- drafts, photographs, maps, lists, research, articles -- and right at your fingertips. Exports nicely to Word for your publisher, too.

Jenna Kernan
54148 words so far Winner!

I've started experimenting with this program in October. The index cards are very helpful for plotting and I can see how the function for moving scenes would be a great help. Still only have my toe in the water, as I am writing in a traditional Word document, and only using the scene index cards as a plotting tool and to remind me what comes next. I split my screen so I can write on one side and check my index cards on the other. I'm becoming more familiar and comfortable with this and think the time invested in learning will pay off great dividents.

echeloniss
5804 words so far

OMG, THIS IS AMAZING AND SO HELPFUL!!!!
whoever made this is genius!

Skywayseeker
50093 words so far Winner!

My first nano- my first use of scrivener *windows version) - hope i win nano so i can get the discount (day 15 - 25000 words in so exactly on track) - best feature - bizzarely enough the little project target box - i have it up all the time - its a great motivator

ebf-awesome
60200 words so far Winner!

First time on NaNoWriMo and 5 days in, I decided to download and switch to Scrivener (trial version) and that was the very best move I made. I am using Scrivener with SimpleNote on my mobile devices and the sync is seamless. I did not realize I wrote in a non-linear manner and so I am writing any part of my story when I feel inspired and can keep things organized, split, move things around, mark sections I need to come back to, read sections together... It is just awesome. I will definitely be purchasing Scrivener at the end of the month and will definitely pass the 50,000 mark to take advantage of the deal!

GenetheGenie
50110 words so far Winner!

kk, feedback (windows version):

LOVE:
+ the layout
+ Fullscreen mode(!!)
+ keywords
+ snapshots
+ being able to separate and re-arrange scenes (though i guess that counts as layout)
+ corkboard
+ screen-split
+ The whole program in general

WHAT THE FRIG?:
+ can't copy-paste the whole text when viewing an entire folder at once, can only copy each individual section as though you are viewing it and only it. this means that in order to update word count in Nano, you have to export the doc every time, or copy-paste every scene individually into a new scene document (what i did. it's annoying) BECAUSE.........
+ Word count settings can't be adjusted (as far as I can tell) (eg. count hypenated words as 2 or 1 word?), which means THE SCRIVENER WORD COUT IS MORE GENEROUS THAN THE NANO-VALIDATE ONE. beware, ye all, ok?
+ No right-click synonyms! i know it's just a little gimmick, but it's the one thing i miss most about Microsoft Word.....

mmmk, there's just a few little things that could be improved, but in general, I love the program! :D thanks heaps guys :)

pking36330
55588 words so far Winner!

GenetheGenie wrote:

+ Word count settings can't be adjusted (as far as I can tell) (eg. count hypenated words as 2 or 1 word?), which means THE SCRIVENER WORD COUT IS MORE GENEROUS THAN THE NANO-VALIDATE ONE. beware, ye all, ok?



Since most seem to agree there is a hyphen disconnect between how Scrivener counts words and how NaNoWriMo counts, all Scrivener users should just take their compiled output on the 30th, perform a Search & Replace in their editor of choice, finding all hyphens and replacing them with a space. Then upload the resulting changed text to NaNoWriMo. Will take about a full minute to perform.

That will ensure full credit for hyphenated words, and will leave them intact and correctly hyphenated in the original content within Scrivener.

ebf-awesome
60200 words so far Winner!

When you click on the draft folders tab, you should see the word count for the entire document. Selecting individual documents give you word counts for those alone. I hope this helps.

blackswan
52213 words so far Winner!

The ability to copy/paste an entire Scrivenings session and perform other formatting options on the whole Scrivenings text will be coming. It's a difficult process programming-wise because Scrivener is displaying for you what is actually multiple documents on your system, so performing cross-document functions isn't as simple as it looks like it should be. Now that 1.0 is out the door, however, Lee's going to be working on rewriting this text-handling code, so this will become feasible in the future.

As the others here have said, there are lot of ways to count words and nearly all programs will do it a little differently. Scrivener does count hyphenated words as two, likewise with words separated by an em- or en-dash or ellipsis; all of these I believe get counted as one word by the NaNo robots. Unless you have moral objections, the approach pking36330 recommends is easiest--at the end of the month, compile your full document and on that copy use find/replace to add a space after each of these characters (i.e. replace "-" with "- "). That will be the biggest difference, but you may also want to check out the threads in the appropriate forum section (Rules and Regulations maybe, or NaNo tech? sorry I don't remember off the top of my head) where users discuss how the NaNo robots count and ways to adjust your finished manuscript accordingly so that the count you've been getting in whatever word processor you're using line up decently with the official validator.

Solarstar
54523 words so far Winner!

I've been checking out, though I wrote my NaNo on my preferred software. From what I've seen it looks pretty decent. But I have noticed one odd thing about it (PC demo version)

I have noticed that when I compile my project, the last paragraph of my chapters are changing justification from left justified to center justified. When I check the actual scenes, they are okay, it just seems to be during compilation. Is there a setting somewhere I'm missing?

bernie_noble
50642 words so far Winner!

In re: "You might want to hold out until the end of November, though, because all winners of this year's NaNoWriMo will be eligible for a 50% discount. Winners will receive a special coupon for this on their winner's page on the NaNoWriMo site at the end of November, once their word count has been confirmed." --

I'm very excited about this -- I have a question though: Where is one's "winner's page"? Is that the same as the "edit novel info" page?

TIA

Bernie

Sphärenspringer
62760 words so far Winner!

Hi, i´d just love to buy Scrivener for both Mac and Windows, but i never got a code or somethig. I won, though, validated 62670 Words. How do i get Scrivener with the 50% off-bonus?
Bye,
Sphärenspringer
Germany

plantman
50248 words so far Winner!

"On December 5, sponsors Scrivener and CreateSpace will also be distributing a special treat to all winners. These goodies will be available via the Winner Prizes homepage block."

plantman
50248 words so far Winner!

Can I still receive the 50% off for WINNER's this year. I won last year as well. If so where do I find the coupon to make the purchase?

plantman
50248 words so far Winner!

"On December 5, sponsors Scrivener and CreateSpace will also be distributing a special treat to all winners. These goodies will be available via the Winner Prizes homepage block."

Iponder
50092 words so far Winner!

It's december 5th but I can't find the discount code...
the winner

BritishHobo
95260 words so far Winner!

I guess it was to do with time zones, but the code's up now. :)

Dragonchilde
9322 words so far

BritishHobo wrote:
I guess it was to do with time zones, but the code's up now. :)


It's not time zones. :) It just takes time to distribute the codes. It's not instantaneous. :)

remabulous
50168 words so far Winner!

Hi Keith! I loved using Scrivener for NaNoWriMo, and am ready to purchase. I did win and completed my 50,000 words, but have checked my winners goodies page a few times and have yet to see a code for anything other than the 20% off for all NaNo participants.

Am I not looking in the right place? I have been looking at the Winner's Goodies page and haven't been able to find another place connected to NaNoWriMo that connects with Scrivener.

Help!

Caroline

nicawaters
57880 words so far Winner!

I too cannot find the code - I won NaNo and want to buy Scrivener - and I;m worried that my story will disappear from Scrivener on December 7! Help!!!

WintryGooseball
50095 words so far Winner!

There's a block on the bottom right of the dashboard that leads to a page specifically for Scrivener and CreateSpace. One of the paragraphs says it should have the code listed after it if you're a "verified, signed-in winner" (which I am) but I'm not seeing anything... so I don't know.

zDave40
56599 words so far Winner!

I've been waiting and watching for the code. It's December 6, 11:33 AM, and I still don't see or have the code.Where is it and what do I do if I don't get it?

Dragonchilde
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zDave40 wrote:
I've been waiting and watching for the code. It's December 6, 11:33 AM, and I still don't see or have the code.Where is it and what do I do if I don't get it?


Have you looked in the winner prizes block on the dashboard? The link is there.

a.j.d
50342 words so far Winner!

Thank you NANOWRIMO!! For an awesome first-time experience, and for introducing me to Scrivener. I just bought my winner's copy. :)

ProphetNoir
51976 words so far Winner!

I want to give a huge thanks to Literature and Latte for sponsoring NaNoWriMo again and for just creating Scrivener in the first place. It would be a bargain - no a STEAL - at full price. The time and effort that went into making a version that would also operate on Windows cannot be discounted. So another huge thanks to all of the people who worked so hard and who listened to all of the feedback from the Beta testers out here.
Finally thank you very much for the discount coupon and especially for making it good through October 1, 2012. I have no idea when I will have a 'spare' $20 for this, but I will surely have that before next October.
Congratulations to all of the NaNo winners and blessings to those who donated their winning codes to the ones who may have fallen just a bit short this time.

See you all next year.

TheatreLvr08
51767 words so far Winner!

Probably a dumb question, but since Scrivener (as far as I can tell) is simply downloaded onto a computer sans disc, what happens if my computer crashes? Do I need to buy it all over again once I get a new computer, or will "my" version still be accessible?

blackswan
52213 words so far Winner!

Not a dumb question! If you buy the program, you'll receive a serial name and number which you'll use to register and activate your program on your computer. Should your hard drive fail or some such thing, all you'd need to do is download the program again and then enter that same information to be up and going.

Your projects are not saved "inside" the program--they're just like most other files on your computer, saved wherever you put them, so e.g. your "My Novel" project that you save to your Documents folder would just be found in C:\Users\YOURUSERNAME\Documents\MyNovel.scriv (it's a folder, with all the project files inside it, but the entire .scriv folder is your project). Best practice is to back up your projects regularly to somewhere not on your local hard drive, so that if you *do* experience something dreadful like a hard drive failure, you'll have a recent backup of your work. Scrivener will automatically create a full, zipped backup of your project every time you close it, saving the most recent five backups, so if you have a service like Dropbox, you might want to make that your backup location for the auto-backups--that way, although it's on your local drive, it's also being synced to the cloud regularly and to any other computers you have hooked up with that service. (You can adjust these settings under the "Backup" tab of Tools > Options... on Windows or Scrivener > Preferences on Mac.) You can also make manual backups at any time to any location you choose using File > Back Up > Back Up To..., so that's a handy way to save a backup of a project to an external drive. You also of course should be good if you make regular backups of your entire computer or so forth.

wombatrider
50489 words so far Winner!

So… if I heard about Scrivener earlier today and downloaded it … will I not be able to use the nano trial on this computer because of this? I love it, by the way… and it includes EVERYTHING I ever wanted and can't wait until I'm a little bit richer to buy it.

blackswan
52213 words so far Winner!

wombatrider - You'll be able to download the NaNoWriMo trial version when it becomes available; it's completely separate from the normal trial version so it won't matter how many days you used on the regular trial, you'll still get through December 7th for the Nano trial. Thanks for giving Scrivener a whirl! (And if you hit the 50K word count, you'll be able to get it 50% off come December, too!) Good luck with your novel!

tajavioletta
50158 words so far Winner!

I've got Scrivener open right now as I organize my notes for November! Thanks for making such a lovely product...it's truly become indispensable for me. I remember doing my first two NaNo's on Word, and get the cold shivers. XD

bobo_the_bard
53206 words so far Winner!

I've got it open too! I love Scrivener, and I've never written any wrimos with anything else. I shudder at the thought of trying to manage and rearrange so many scenes and chapters by scrolling through an increasingly lengthy word document and copying and pasting. Excellent product!

cupcakemichi
39468 words so far

I'm a tad confused on the discounts... if we won last year, are buying the windows version in November or December, and are a student, how much would it end up being? Can we only get 20% off or 50% off? And then if you get both, is it 70% off, or is it 20% off THEN 50% off? I'm assuming, that since it says 20% off the full-price that you can only get one or the other but there's always a hope. =D
And do you apply these discounts to full price or student edition price (if you're a student)?

Honestly, I'm buying it even if it's the full $35 (but I have a coupon code from last year!), but I need to know how much to save. :) I AM a student, after all. XD

(OH, AND I LOVE SCRIVENER. SERIOUSLY.)

olorinpc
2790 words so far

My understanding is that you cannot combine discounts. (This is how the mac version worked anyways.)

So you get to pick, 20% off or 50% off.... personally I would pick the 50% off :)

Jerene Minnie
50364 words so far Winner!

I got the the generic (Mac) trial version before I found the NANOWRIMO offer here and have been using it all week. I love it too. Anybody know if there's any chance/way of switching so I can take advantage of the 50% deal when I win?

Millamant
63118 words so far Winner!

I love scrivener, I tried out a few other bits of this and that but nothing compared to this. I use the doc targets, mainly because I don't like doing the key stroke thing, but it keeps me focussed, and I have made it to the 50k six times now.
And Keith is a great guy. An extremely helpful genius.

Bramblepath
50026 words so far Winner!

I've never felt the need for any kind of story-writing software but I might give Scrivener a shot this year. Anyone knows exactly when we can get the NaNo Trial?

ArborlonElf
13945 words so far

I don't know exactly when the NaNo trial comes out, but if you install the regular trial now, and the NaNo trial when it comes out, you'll be able to use Scrivener straight from now until December 7th.

teacherguy66
51797 words so far Winner!

I tried Scrivener last year. I also wrote in Word and on my Neo. This year, I'm using it lots more; it's been great for planning, note-taking, and outlining.

ladyellie
51510 words so far Winner!

I've used Scrivener for a couple of years now, and it helped me win last year! It helped me keep organized, and it was much easier to deal with than a huge, unwieldly Word document.

MingLin-Hong
33039 words so far

I'm using the Scrivener trial right now. Absolutely loving it! I will definitely buy it if I win NaNoWrimo. Thanks for this wonderful software! :D

sammyjw
50043 words so far Winner!

I started using Scrivener for last year's NaNo and am patiently waiting for the full Windows version to come out. Love this program!

Tonic

Thank you so much for providing the NaNo trial. I just downloaded the regular trial and am going through the tutorial now. This software looks like it will be amazingly helpful during my first ever NaNo.

simplywriting
52046 words so far Winner!

Glad I popped in here. I was concerned because I d/l it and wasn't aware there would be a NaNo trial and this one expires Nov. 7. I thought, 7 days of novel and several weeks of notes and then I have no option but to buy it. This makes it easier to plan.
I like the software, it's just taking some getting used to from my normal program (yWriter, which I've been using for the past several years). The functions and capabilities far outweigh the cost - I just didn't want to have to commit to anything a week into NaNo. haha
I will definitely make it to 50,000 because that's just what I do, so when that special discount code pops up, I'm probably using it to buy the full version. I feel better knowing I have time to learn to use it.
Thanks Scrivener!

Mistwalker
50726 words so far Winner!

Two questions:
1) I'm currently using the Windows Beta version of Scrivener. Is the "Inspector" feature supposed to be available? It's not already preloaded on my toolbar, and when I try to add it, it doesn't work. This one of the primary features I'm looking for to use in my writing, so if this isn't going to be available.... ? Anyone else having this issue?
2) It states on the website that in the demo version, Scrivener cannot export as an RTF. Are we still going to be able to export our work out if we decide not to buy the full version?

blackswan
52213 words so far Winner!

Mistwalker - The inspector is absolutely available in the Windows version, but you may be having an issue where the main toolbar isn't appearing--this was an accident in the latest tutorial with 035, that the main toolbar isn't showing by default; you can turn it on via View>Toolbar. The blue inspector button should be on the far right of the toolbar (to the right of the search bar)--if the project window is too narrow, you might see a >> sign to indicate there's more available that's not able to be shown. You can also show/hide the inspector via View>Layout>Show Inspector. And finally, to customize which icons display on the main toolbar (or on the format bar, Format>Show Format Bar) you can go into Tools>Customize Toolbars.

So that said, if any of that isn't working for you, could you please let me know specifically what you're doing so I can make sure we don't have a bug somewhere? This definitely should be working--as you say, the inspector feature is one of the really useful aspects of the program!

Scrivener is also definitely able to export/compile to RTF. Where are you reading that it says that's not possible? Sounds like we may have an out-of-date page somewhere. Scrivener for Windows is able to compile to print, PDF, RTF, DOC, ODT, TXT, HTML, XHTML, ePUB, and MOBI and to DOCX if you have Word 2007 or higher installed. So yes, you will absolutely be able to get your work out whether or not you choose to buy. All your writing is stored accessibly in RTF files while in the project, too, so although you shouldn't edit them outside of Scrivener, they're available should you need to get to them when you no longer have Scrivener, even if you haven't specifically exported your work. We'd never want you to lose your novel!

Thanks to everyone who's been trying out the program or sharing experiences! We greatly appreciate the kind reviews. Good luck to everyone in reaching 50K!

RoadDog
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You said that you should not edit your file outside of Scrivener? Even a RTF file? I am a truck driver and had planned on using my iPad for writing in those moments when I could not stop and setup my laptop.

Could you clarify this for me? Can you edit a RTF file on another device?

I just downloaded the Windows Beta and I am ready to sit down and start learning the program so I would like to know if this will be a problem for me during Nano.

Thanks

blackswan
52213 words so far Winner!

Whoops, sorry RoadDog, missed your post earlier. For editing your work on the go, your best method is to use the File > Export feature to make an external copy of the documents that you can move over to your iPad or wherever. When you're ready to bring them back in, you can either import the documents or just copy/paste the text into the appropriate files. The reason for all this is that Scrivener needs to keep all its internal files in sync, so if you start editing them outside of the program, not all the necessary files will be updated to keep the rest of the project knowing what's going on. Additionally, although the files are RTF, Scrivener uses some of its own code for displaying specific special formatting like annotations, so best case you'd see this wrapper code when opening the file externally, and worst case it might end up getting altered by you or the external program and so not working properly when you opened again in Scrivener. All that is avoided if you export (or compile), since then Scrivener is preparing the text to be viewed and edited externally, and once it's out of Scrivener, the project doesn't care about it so you can do whatever you want with it.

Down the road we'll be implementing a sync system that will make what you want to do simpler and integrated into the program. For now, export should serve you well. It'll be nicer to work with than the RTF files directly from the project anyway because you'll be able to name and save them whatever and wherever you want.

I hope that helps, but let me know if you've got questions still!

JennH
55346 words so far Winner!

I had the same quirk with inspector in the tutorial. It did come up when I started my own novel prep. Not sure what I was doing but If it quirks again I'll pY attn and report. Using windows beta.

blackswan
52213 words so far Winner!

Thanks, JennH. The issue will be project-specific because the interface settings are saved with the project. We've fixed the tutorial for the NaNoWriMo trial so this won't confuse new users, but I'm sorry you had to figure it out on your own! Thank you for trying out the Scrivener beta!

gbostic5
13434 words so far

Hi, I downloaded the Beta version of Scrivener last evening, and I'm thrilled with what I've found!

I'm glad I checked back here last night when I became confused. I couldn't find the inspector, but after reading your response to Mistwalker, I found it and love the feature. Also the corkboard and outliner look like fantastic tools.

Your tutorial is excellent and well worth the time taken to go through it. Thank you for developing this great product for windows!!! :)

BeauB1980
16377 words so far

This thread tells me something very important to me about your company, one that I think many companies have lost touch with today:

You actually care about your #1 resource -- your customers. With what appears to be such a great product (with what little I have poked around in it thus far), the price (especially with the coupon), and the fact that you care about your customers, I will definitely be purchasing Scrivener, regardless of whether I hit 50K or not next month. :)



blackswan
52213 words so far Winner!

Thank you! I hope you continue to enjoy the software, and best wishes for hitting 50K (and maybe even "The End")!

--
Jennifer
Literature & Latte

olorinpc
2790 words so far

Beau - also come on over to the Scrivener forums sometime! Great community and the L&L staff respond and chime in on posts quite frequently :)

indigo_room
51816 words so far Winner!

I've been using the Scrivener for Windows beta since it was first released. It's the only writing software I've used that:

1. does what I want
2. isn't loaded with stuff I don't want or need
3. is easy to learn and use, and
4. looks good.

In fact, it's the only writing software I've used, period. I've downloaded plenty of others, and even paid for a few, but never got past the dabbling stage with any of them. I'm using Scrivener for Nano and will definitely buy the Windows full release.

If you're curious about writing software, or if you've heard about Scrivener for Mac and wondered what a Windows version would be like, I encourage you to check it out.

Kayembi
30156 words so far

Hi all,

Many thanks for all the comments, kind words and questions! (Sorry to those whose posts have been wiped since yesterday with the NaNoWriMo board reset - hopefully we answered all the questions there, but please repost if you missed the answers.)

Byronicwoman (cool handle!), tajavioletta, bobo_the_bard, teacherguy66, ladyellie, MingLin-Hong, sammyjw, Tonic, simplywriting Thank you for the kind words, and thanks for trying Scrivener to those who are new to it.

wombatrider - As blackswan says, the NaNo trial is entirely separate, so even if you have used up lots of days on our regular trial, the NaNo trial will last until 7th December regardless. (blackswan is Jennifer, our Windows support person, by the way).

cupcakemichi - You can only use one discount at a time, and the discounts only apply to the full-price regular version (not the educational version), I'm afraid. So if you have a 50% and a 20% coupon, you only get a 50% discount - otherwise we'll never be able to afford to feed our kids, ha. :)

Which reminds me - if you won last year, because the Windows version took longer than we thought (and will now be out on October 31st), the coupons from last year will still work right up to the end of this year.

Millamant - Thanks! My head is now swelling in the way I like it to… I think I'm going to insist on having that as my epitaph, although I have a feeling only "An extremely…" will be respected…

Bramblepath - The NaNo trial should be out some time next week. In the meantime, as AborionElf says, you can use the regular trial (or the Windows beta version), as the NaNo trial will have a built-in expiry of December 7th, so using the regular trial or Windows beta and then swapping to the NaNo trial won't reduce the length of time the NaNo trial lasts in any way. (Incidentally, Scrivener is only "story-writing" software in that you can write stories in it - it won't try to tell you how to write; as an unpublished wannabe myself, I'd be a complete fraud if I tried to tell anyone else how to write.)

Mistwalker: 1) Yes, the inspector feature is there. In the toolbar it should be a white "i" in a blue disc, although if your window is narrow it may not be visible (in which case, you should see a ">>" symbol at the right of the toolbar, which when clicked will show more icons, including the Inspector one). You can also show and hide it by going to View > Layout > Show Inspector, or hitting ctrl-shift-I. It then opens a bar on the right showing an index card, meta-data and notes pane. 2) I'm not sure what you mean here - Scrivener can export to RTF, and the trial version is identical to the full version. The only difference between the trial version and the full version is the time limit; other than that, it's fully functional. Are you sure you saw this on our website and not somebody else's? If so, where on our website is it, as that would be a mistake!

Thanks again - and good luck with the planning to those who are doing some!

All the best,
Keith

Kayembi
30156 words so far

Oops, two new posts in the time it took me to write mine, in which time Jennifer (blackswan) already answered some of the questions, so apologies for duplication.

indigo_room: Thanks for the kind words of support, much appreciated. The Windows version is the biggest step for us since the first Mac version was released nearly five years ago (back when I was a one-person company), so it's fantastic to hear from happy beta-users.

All the best,
Keith

Fgodmom
54473 words so far Winner!

As one of the tech challenged, have been saving up my discount code from last Nov until the finished version of Scrivener came out.

It's due out Oct 31. and when I checked tonight, the page with my code has vanished in the transition from NaNo's old website to new one.

How do i get my code back to qualify for this dicount?

Thanks

Ceebsies
5470 words so far

I second this question. I had saved my discount code onto my PC to use when the program finally came up for sale, but alas, I had a hard drive failure and lost my back up.

Is there anyway to get a new discount code? (that doesn't involve winning this year? Not to say I don't think I can win, but I am working on a considerably tighter schedule this year than I was last year when I won. :P )

blackswan
52213 words so far Winner!

Fgodmom and Ceebsies - Chris Baty has kindly offered to have an OLL intern look up the codes for last year's winners who didn't get them off the goodies page, so if you can send us an email at support@literatureandlatte.com with the subject "NaNoWriMo 2010 Winner Coupon" or similar, we'll add you to the next batch of names we're sending OLL. Please be sure to include your NaNoWriMo user name in the email. Once we've got the names (probably in a couple weeks) we'll email you your coupon codes. Thanks!

--
Jennifer
Literature & Latte

Ceebsies
5470 words so far

Thank you so much, Blackswan. I've fired off an email to that address with my info.

If they're able to find my code, I'll use it the moment they send it to me. I've been looking forward to buying Scrivener for windows since I started using it last year in beta.

rinib
35750 words so far

Thanks! I don't have mine from last year either.

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