Our Chief of Operations, Clinton, has been talking about his first attempt at NaNoWriMo for awhile now. As software developers, besides advising him to not quit his day job, we dove into evaluating creative writing software for him to use. Adam, our Chief of Technology (yes, a lot of Chiefs around here), led the charge.
We studied dozens of software packages and web apps. We found some apps simple and creative, like OmmWriter, which we love, but it is designed for writing very short pieces. We found "lite" web based editors that are good for capturing thoughts and taking notes, but not for novel writing. As alternatives, MS Word, Google Docs and other word processors just don't facilitate creative writing--they weren't designed to.
We found the software packages designed just for novel writing bloated with features added over years of development resulting in their being complicated and not very easy to work with. After all, we just want to write.
Today's technology has moved past the current market leaders in terms of what novel writing software could be. No matter how many features they add, it's still installed, complicated software, built for the pre-web app world. Web apps are changing nearly everything software-related, and we think creative writing software is due for a change.
Each of us here at Blue Burro are restless with technology anyway. Our passion is to advance it, not accept the status quo. So, it was exciting for us to realize that we could advance the state of creative writing software. We knew we could create a modern writing environment that we would love to use. Yarny is the result.
What you see now at yarny.me is just a start. We're quite happy with it, but it's still early in the development cycle. As we continue to develop Yarny, here are some promises we have made to ourselves and those that also choose to use Yarny in their craft:
We will never make Yarny complicated. We just don't think anyone should have to learn to use software anymore. Today, software should be self-evident and forgiving. Just start using Yarny. If some part confuses you, let us know, we'll work on that.
We won't stop tinkering until it's the leading creative writing environment on the planet (even then, we probably won't stop; it's just the way we're wired).
You will always access it through your browser and an internet connection from any computer and will never need to install anything. Soon you'll be able to write offline in your browser and automatically sync later when you have an internet connection.
We will never force a specific method of writing. We create spaces and tools inside Yarny to use in any manner that works best for you.
You'll be able to simply and securely share your writing with others.
We will add some formatting capabilities, but not get carried away. Formatting gets in the way of writing. If you think you need a lot of formatting, look at the Tom Sawyer manuscript; Mark Twain w-r-o-t-e it on a TYPEWRITER.
We will integrate with other online apps that provide things you will need such as book layout and publishing, making it easy to take what you create in Yarny and turn it into a published work.
We will always have a free version. A few things won't be free, but not many. Further, the paid plans, which will begin in December, will be dirt cheap. It's the internet after all.
We hope you enjoy using Yarny and it becomes your favorite writing tool. Our plans for the future of Yarny are shaped by what you tell us. So please send us an email, click the Feedback button in Yarny, or post something on our forums to let us know your thoughts. We know that we created Yarny for us to use - we all write, and Clinton will be using it for NaNoWriMo in a little over a month. We also know we created it for you, the creative writer, wanting a better way to write.
For WriMo 2011, it's free. It's currently in beta, but that doesn't mean we don't take running it seriously. We've had it running for awhile now and writers are depending upon it as their writing tool. While using it, feel free to give us feedback and suggestions in the forum or the in-app feedback button.
In December, we'll be out of beta and begin our subscriptions. Don't worry though, we'll always have a Free Forever plan, so if you don't want to pay - no worries. The subscription plans will add some additional features you may want. Good news though, it's going to be inexpensive, well, actually, dirt cheap. And, for some added motivation to be a WriMo winner, all winners get an annual subscription at half price - that's 50% off of dirt cheap!
We wish you the best during November and please let us know what we can do to make Yarny a better place for you to write. Thanks. Now, start writing.
We have just released a minor update to fix the problem some users were having. Yarny will no longer lie to you, telling you that you're "not logged in," when you very clearly are.
I would love to use this, but it doesn't seem to work well with IE. I don't use either Safari or Chrome-my desktop computer has 'issues' with them, and my little netbook crashes when I try to use them. Any chance of adding IE to supported browsers? I love this idea and I would gladly use it
With every release, we try to expand the list of browsers that can run Yarny correctly
Internet Explorer is not currently supported, though our plan is to be compatible in all browsers. Other modern browsers (specifically Chrome) let us do more interesting things (have you seen the custom scroll bars in Chrome?), but we understand that many computers, specifically those you many use at work, will only have Internet Explorer. And, of course, we want you to be able to use Yarny everywhere!
I use Chrome and Opera so I guess this doesn't matter much to me, but I have to ask out of sheer curiosity why you'd develop an online app like this and not start with support for the most used browser? From a purely market-driven point of view, it would seem to make sense.
It might seem an odd choice, but I assure you it's not personal. We've been developing web apps for a long time. Creating something that will run the same on the myriad browsers available is always a challenge; there is no actual 'standard' that is universally accepted among browsers. Most often though, extraneous, extra steps are required to get elements to render consistently in Internet Explorer. IE is a solitary island, standing unique and alone in how it handles a number of elements.
If Internet Explorer played a little nicer, we'd show it a little more love.
Ah...makes sense. I haven't used IE in a while, and I didn't realize the way it functioned internally was so different.
With the consent decree over in the anti-trust case, Microsoft is making IE a much more integral part of Windows 8 (from what I've read). I use linux, so it's not much of an issue for me, I was just curious.
Thanks for answering. I like what I've seen of Yarny and I'm going to use it for NaNo this year.
I agree. I see this is as a "if you play nice so will we. If not there are others that we can promote to those who may not have heard of them before and may even become more popular. :-)
I just downloaded it, and I'm trying it out. I like it so far. Do you know if there is any way to edit the text, like you can with WORD or other programs? Like, to italicize a word? It will take awhile to get the best good out of the features. One more question...do you know if you can copy your work into a word processing program, so it can be formatted and printed, etc.?
Hi! This looks absolutely fantastic. I love the way that it's laid out, with places for various notes. I do have one question, though. The terms of use state that we cannot upload material "that may be considered offensive," and on the registration page, it states that "obscene [ . . . or . . . ] sexually-oriented" materials can't be posted. Those are pretty vague guidelines--what may be considered innocuous to one person may be obscene or offensive to another. And my characters, despite their Victorian sensibilities, will be having sex at some point. Can I still use yarny, or would that make my novel subject to deletion?
I read that, too and wondered the same thing. However, I think that those guidelines are referring to posts in the forums, not your actual personal writing.
The "obscene, vulgar..." is referring to the forums. There, as it is intended to be a community, we can't have content that is inappropriate.
For using Yarny, we actually have a different Privacy Policy and Terms of Use found here: http://getyarny.com/legal/privacy/ http://getyarny.com/legal/terms/
These are the terms that you agree to when you register at yarny.me.
Your data is kept private, and is not monitored by our staff, except at your discretion, with your approval, when it is necessary to assist with technical support. Though we have had several requests for feedback and critiquing of writing, we do not actually view your data.
I'm loving Yarny! I finally found my way around the program to be able to use the snippets etc. I am using templates from The Marshall Plan for Novel Writing and building sections to use later. There is a template for each of my characters and templates for the story line - action sections and reaction sections. From those I can plan the plot and write the book. The templates should help me stay in line with the story and the characters. Anyway, that's what I'm hoping. Yarny is making it easy to outline everything instead of having to fill in the templates by hand. I copy and paste the templates and I can fill them in later. Just thought I'd let you know how I'm using Yarny and making it work for me. Thanks for the trial!
Just chiming in to say this: I love the honesty, the clarity and the transparency in the yarny.me Privacy Policy. I love the fact that you are treating users as individuals with a sense of ownership rather than random IP addresses with blocks of data. Yarny gets a two thumbs up from me.
While I can't donate to your efforts just yet, I'll make sure to spread the word, in the hope that it will eventually reach those who can. Keep up the good work yarnians!!
Cheers! Shrikant
PS: Oh, and I know *where* I'm writing my NaNovel this month. :)
I am loving Yarny, sneaking the odd sentence in work, and using different computers at home. And I love the way it's just there, ready for me, like an online notebook when I want to write. And It's encouraged me to forget about structure, outlines, restrictions and just write. But I just lost 500 words, I was so engrossed and wanted to keep on writing that I kept ignoring the error saving message at the bottom corner of the screen. Next time, I'll stop and back up what I've done. I've written more words in the last two days than I have in months encouraged by NaNoWriMo and Yarny, so I'm not too worried. I'll write it again tomorrow, probably better :))
Thanks for sticking with us even when you were seeing the "Error saving..." message.
The best thing to do, definitely, when you see this message is copy what you've written, back it up, then click "Log Out" in the dropdown menu under your email address. Then, shoot support@getyarny.com an email, just to let us know you were having a problem.
Then, take a deep breath, log back into Yarny, and continue writing.
Logging out is important, as it will hopefully clear out whatever problem was encountered that was causing the "error saving..." message. If it persists, clear your cookies, refresh, and then dive back in.
I hope this helps! Even though Yarny is in beta, we pride ourselves on being reliable, so anytime you're experiencing unintended behavior, we want to start investigating it as quickly as possible to help ensure it doesn't happen again!
Thanks very much for replying. All looking good today - I'll let you know if I get another problem. The format definitely works well for me to do NaNoWriMo. In fact, without it, I don't think I'd even be attempting this year, I'm in so many different places in a week.
It seems to me to be a nice program to write in, but there is a little thing that irritates me. The words are counted diffently here at nanowrimo.org than in yarny. For example in yarny I've written 5703 words, but when I put it at my profile here, it is only 5233 words.
Do you know if there is a tutorial to show us how to make the best of the features? And when there's a paid version, will there be a tutorial for it to teach us how to get the most from this cool program? I know it's simple, but a little tutorial wouldn't hurt. Thanks.
I really love the layout for Yarny, but if there isn't a downloadable client already, might I suggest it? I want a program I can run without an internet connection, or can Yarny be accessed without internet and also save to my own computer and flash drives? :)
For all of you who have enjoyed using Yarny and asked for a mobile solution, we're now very happy to announce that Yarny has made its way into the Apple App Store. Check out the official post: http://getyarny.com/index.php/blog/yarny-iphone-app/
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I'm excited this is free. I've been trying it out, and what I see, I think is great so far.
The offline option will be awesome. I'm pretty excited about that, too.
Mostly, I just want to say I appreciate the privacy. I'm kind of leery about posting any of my content on the internet in the first place. It's a comfort to know someone still takes privacy seriously, and doesn't take the opportunity to make a buck off it.
Ooh, I like this. I've used Google Docs for everything previously, but Yarny looks like it'll provide the same convenience as Google Docs, but be made for writers. I'm trying it out now, and it looks great! I assume details such as formatting will be added later.
Our first goal was to focus on providing a comfortable and sleek interface that makes it easy to accomplish the most important part of authoring a novel: writing. Since our launch we've already had a few feature releases though, adding more organizational capabilities. Stay tuned, as we plan on providing some basic formatting as well as some theming/personalization options.
Love the idea. Just tried it and found it to be a little glitchy, tried giving feedback but couldn't access the form. That said, I'm on an unsupported browser, so I shall try on Chrome when I get home. Definitely an interesting idea for NaNoWriMo because I write on different computers through the month and tend to spend a lot of time emailing my story back and forth to myself.
You'll definitely get the best experience if you use Chrome. Firefox and Safari are also supported. We're growing our list of supported browsers. We definitely look forward to our users being able to use Yarny on any computer/mobile device that you have available!
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It looks great, but I really want something that will work for someone whose writing computer does NOT have an internet connection. Period. Other than hoping you don't lose your flashdrive... I'm fine with a USB/ethernet/what have you to connect to another computer, just not the internet. (It's capable, via ethernet or modem, but there's no browser or virus protection software on it...)
Being a web-app, Yarny will require an internet connection - that way we can back up your writing and let you access it from anywhere.
However, we understand that sometimes the best writing environment for you might not have an internet connection. Though not available yet, we have in the works the ability for Yarny to run in a browser that isn't currently connected to the internet. Then, once you reconnect, everything you wrote while offline will be saved.
I do like the look and ease of use of this. I've tried yWriter and Scrivner in the past but didn't like either of them leaving me using google docs and MSword.
This however, looks great and I look forward to really sinking my teeth into it.
I got a chromebook this summer, and I was resigned to having to type everything in google docs, so that I could write on all my7 computers, but this seems so much better! So far, I really like the snippets, and the built- in notes on the side... but I heavily depend on being able to mark certain things in bold, and other things in italics... any word on when that will work?
We have some plans for implementing a subset of Markdown.
So even though it's not displaying it yet, feel free to add *one* set of asterisks around writing you want italicized and **two** sets of asterisks for bold. Then, when we do rollout that release, you'll already be ahead of the game!
This looks like a very cool writing tool. I'm using it on the Opera browser and so far it seems to be working fine. Will you be testing Yarny in the Opera browser in the future?
Also, I know that the formatting and such is going to be kept simple, but are there any plans for a highlighting tool? As I'm writing I like to be able to quickly highlight individual sentences or paragraphs that I know I'll need to come back to.
Just a thought on how we've heard some users are marking sections or sentences to come back to. They are putting in a code word, such as REWORK or TODO. Then, they do a search for the term in the Yarny search box, and all of the snippets containing the code word shown. To quickly find a word in a very long snippet that's selected, just use the browser search. Hope this helps, while we continue to work in more enhancements for Yarny.
We have just released a minor update to fix the problem some users were having. Yarny will no longer lie to you, telling you that you're "not logged in," when you very clearly are.
Just FYI, I signed up, and am still getting that message. Looks good, but I won't commit to writing on it while it is telling me that it isn't saving permanently.
I already started planning out my novel and writing character profiles in Yarny! It's easy to use, distraction-free, and I can get on it from pretty much anywhere! Definitely using it for NaNo this year.
This is exactly what I needed to keep all my information in one place! I can add notes on my characters on the right side which is easily accessible. So much easier than rifling through paperwork or skimming through my wordpad. I am positive that Yarny is going to be my best friend for the next two months. :)
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I found this about a week ago. It's pretty neat, and I'm liking it, but I seem to have a bit of trouble committing to writing software. Be sure that I'll use it; the question is just how often. I'm eager to have italics and bold and, particularly, an indent button. :X I just can't stand having to double-return so my paragraphs don't meld into each other. If I have to copy/paste into a Word doc that I can print for class, those extra spaces are a pain. :(
Overall, though, I'm liking where Yarny is headed.
The first thing I thought was "Argh no speelcherker" but then I realised that, when I use Chrome, I've got one built in to that anyway.
I've downloaded and trialled a load of different software and I confess I've had the same thoughts as the Yarny folk - it's all a bit complicated and needlessly 'in your face' feature wise. This looks like the winner for me.
We definitely gain a few inherent advantages of being a web-app.
The spell checking even works if you're writing in a different language. You can just change your browser's language setting (usually by right clicking on the page and changing the language).
I plan on trying Yarny once there are basic formatting capabilities (bold, italic etc)
Nothing bothers me more during writing than being distracted because I cannot indent, bold or italicize something. Its like an itch on my frontal lobe and I cant scratch it.
That said, Yarny is definitely the most promising writing app Ive seen! If all else fails, I will be using OpenOffice and a flash drive XD
When you mention indenting, are you just referring to a tab in front of each paragraph? Or do you like to indent an entire block of text?
Also, since we'll be using Markdown to handle formatting, try using single or double asterisks around your words to *italicize* or **bold** something. It feels more natural than you might think.
Yarny now has auto-indenting: Hit 'Enter' to drop to the next line and automatically indent. Hit 'Shift' + 'Enter' to drop to the next line without indenting.
On the page (or pages) where I write the 50,000 words, it is in fact great to have the auto-identing, but it doesn't get handy sometimes on the side snippets (I use some just for little notes and topics) and on the People / Places / Things bar.
And probably there are people who don't like the auto thing, so you really should try to work on some switch or something to turn it on or off when it's more convenient.
You should have some options for us to personalize regarding things like these.
Still, great improvement. I'm definitely using yarny for my November novel.
Lots of personalization/theming options coming up!
Every time that we build a new feature into Yarny, we like to follow the the same philosophy as existing features: they make the experience better, they make it easier for you to write, and they're so easy to use they doesn't actually require a how-to guide.
An overwhelming 'Preferences' or 'Settings' screen full of dials, knobs, sliders, and check boxes definitely doesn't belong in Yarny. Therefore, It's always a fine line we walk: wanting to deliver a fantastic writing experience that you don't have to think about and still giving you controls to tweak that experience.
However, we have some great ideas on how to implement it.
As a follow-up, how do you (and everyone else) feel about an optional typewriter sound that you can turn on and off?
This looks really great, but I won't always be connected when I'm writing, so the offline feature is a must for me. I'm going to play around with it, though. Looks like fun.
I'm actually really impressed so far. I write in notepad and this gives me a really nice way to keep track of everything, check word count and save at the same time, and break everything out without using clunky folders or downloading software. Definitely looking forward to an off-line mode, too.
Yarny, write your novel in the cloud
Our Chief of Operations, Clinton, has been talking about his first attempt at NaNoWriMo for awhile now. As software developers, besides advising him to not quit his day job, we dove into evaluating creative writing software for him to use. Adam, our Chief of Technology (yes, a lot of Chiefs around here), led the charge.

We studied dozens of software packages and web apps. We found some apps simple and creative, like OmmWriter, which we love, but it is designed for writing very short pieces. We found "lite" web based editors that are good for capturing thoughts and taking notes, but not for novel writing. As alternatives, MS Word, Google Docs and other word processors just don't facilitate creative writing--they weren't designed to.
We found the software packages designed just for novel writing bloated with features added over years of development resulting in their being complicated and not very easy to work with. After all, we just want to write.
Today's technology has moved past the current market leaders in terms of what novel writing software could be. No matter how many features they add, it's still installed, complicated software, built for the pre-web app world. Web apps are changing nearly everything software-related, and we think creative writing software is due for a change.
Each of us here at Blue Burro are restless with technology anyway. Our passion is to advance it, not accept the status quo. So, it was exciting for us to realize that we could advance the state of creative writing software. We knew we could create a modern writing environment that we would love to use. Yarny is the result.
What you see now at yarny.me is just a start. We're quite happy with it, but it's still early in the development cycle. As we continue to develop Yarny, here are some promises we have made to ourselves and those that also choose to use Yarny in their craft:
We hope you enjoy using Yarny and it becomes your favorite writing tool. Our plans for the future of Yarny are shaped by what you tell us. So please send us an email, click the Feedback button in Yarny, or post something on our forums to let us know your thoughts. We know that we created Yarny for us to use - we all write, and Clinton will be using it for NaNoWriMo in a little over a month. We also know we created it for you, the creative writer, wanting a better way to write.
For WriMo 2011, it's free. It's currently in beta, but that doesn't mean we don't take running it seriously. We've had it running for awhile now and writers are depending upon it as their writing tool. While using it, feel free to give us feedback and suggestions in the forum or the in-app feedback button.
In December, we'll be out of beta and begin our subscriptions. Don't worry though, we'll always have a Free Forever plan, so if you don't want to pay - no worries. The subscription plans will add some additional features you may want. Good news though, it's going to be inexpensive, well, actually, dirt cheap. And, for some added motivation to be a WriMo winner, all winners get an annual subscription at half price - that's 50% off of dirt cheap!
We wish you the best during November and please let us know what we can do to make Yarny a better place for you to write. Thanks. Now, start writing.
Love,
The Yarny Team
www.getyarny.com (site and support forums)
www.yarny.me (the place to write)
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We have just released a minor update to fix the problem some users were having. Yarny will no longer lie to you, telling you that you're "not logged in," when you very clearly are.
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I would love to use this, but it doesn't seem to work well with IE. I don't use either Safari or Chrome-my desktop computer has 'issues' with them, and my little netbook crashes when I try to use them. Any chance of adding IE to supported browsers? I love this idea and I would gladly use it
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I concur!
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With every release, we try to expand the list of browsers that can run Yarny correctly
Internet Explorer is not currently supported, though our plan is to be compatible in all browsers. Other modern browsers (specifically Chrome) let us do more interesting things (have you seen the custom scroll bars in Chrome?), but we understand that many computers, specifically those you many use at work, will only have Internet Explorer. And, of course, we want you to be able to use Yarny everywhere!
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I use Chrome and Opera so I guess this doesn't matter much to me, but I have to ask out of sheer curiosity why you'd develop an online app like this and not start with support for the most used browser? From a purely market-driven point of view, it would seem to make sense.
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It might seem an odd choice, but I assure you it's not personal. We've been developing web apps for a long time. Creating something that will run the same on the myriad browsers available is always a challenge; there is no actual 'standard' that is universally accepted among browsers. Most often though, extraneous, extra steps are required to get elements to render consistently in Internet Explorer. IE is a solitary island, standing unique and alone in how it handles a number of elements.
If Internet Explorer played a little nicer, we'd show it a little more love.
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Ah...makes sense. I haven't used IE in a while, and I didn't realize the way it functioned internally was so different.
With the consent decree over in the anti-trust case, Microsoft is making IE a much more integral part of Windows 8 (from what I've read). I use linux, so it's not much of an issue for me, I was just curious.
Thanks for answering. I like what I've seen of Yarny and I'm going to use it for NaNo this year.
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If Microsoft does that I think It'll be time to buy a Linux :D (Well once it becomes the point that only Micro 8 is on the market)
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I agree. I see this is as a "if you play nice so will we. If not there are others that we can promote to those who may not have heard of them before and may even become more popular. :-)
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I noticed that there are no formatting toolbars. Am I just missing it?
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I just downloaded it, and I'm trying it out. I like it so far. Do you know if there is any way to edit the text, like you can with WORD or other programs? Like, to italicize a word? It will take awhile to get the best good out of the features. One more question...do you know if you can copy your work into a word processing program, so it can be formatted and printed, etc.?
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Hi! This looks absolutely fantastic. I love the way that it's laid out, with places for various notes. I do have one question, though. The terms of use state that we cannot upload material "that may be considered offensive," and on the registration page, it states that "obscene [ . . . or . . . ] sexually-oriented" materials can't be posted. Those are pretty vague guidelines--what may be considered innocuous to one person may be obscene or offensive to another. And my characters, despite their Victorian sensibilities, will be having sex at some point. Can I still use yarny, or would that make my novel subject to deletion?
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I read that, too and wondered the same thing. However, I think that those guidelines are referring to posts in the forums, not your actual personal writing.
~ Christine
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Sorry for the confusion on this.
The "obscene, vulgar..." is referring to the forums. There, as it is intended to be a community, we can't have content that is inappropriate.
For using Yarny, we actually have a different Privacy Policy and Terms of Use found here:
http://getyarny.com/legal/privacy/
http://getyarny.com/legal/terms/
These are the terms that you agree to when you register at yarny.me.
Your data is kept private, and is not monitored by our staff, except at your discretion, with your approval, when it is necessary to assist with technical support. Though we have had several requests for feedback and critiquing of writing, we do not actually view your data.
Hope this helps!
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Winning!
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I'm loving Yarny! I finally found my way around the program to be able to use the snippets etc. I am using templates from The Marshall Plan for Novel Writing and building sections to use later. There is a template for each of my characters and templates for the story line - action sections and reaction sections. From those I can plan the plot and write the book. The templates should help me stay in line with the story and the characters. Anyway, that's what I'm hoping. Yarny is making it easy to outline everything instead of having to fill in the templates by hand. I copy and paste the templates and I can fill them in later. Just thought I'd let you know how I'm using Yarny and making it work for me. Thanks for the trial!
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Just chiming in to say this: I love the honesty, the clarity and the transparency in the yarny.me Privacy Policy. I love the fact that you are treating users as individuals with a sense of ownership rather than random IP addresses with blocks of data. Yarny gets a two thumbs up from me.
While I can't donate to your efforts just yet, I'll make sure to spread the word, in the hope that it will eventually reach those who can. Keep up the good work yarnians!!
Cheers!
Shrikant
PS: Oh, and I know *where* I'm writing my NaNovel this month. :)
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I am loving Yarny, sneaking the odd sentence in work, and using different computers at home. And I love the way it's just there, ready for me, like an online notebook when I want to write. And It's encouraged me to forget about structure, outlines, restrictions and just write. But I just lost 500 words, I was so engrossed and wanted to keep on writing that I kept ignoring the error saving message at the bottom corner of the screen. Next time, I'll stop and back up what I've done. I've written more words in the last two days than I have in months encouraged by NaNoWriMo and Yarny, so I'm not too worried. I'll write it again tomorrow, probably better :))
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Thanks for sticking with us even when you were seeing the "Error saving..." message.
The best thing to do, definitely, when you see this message is copy what you've written, back it up, then click "Log Out" in the dropdown menu under your email address. Then, shoot support@getyarny.com an email, just to let us know you were having a problem.
Then, take a deep breath, log back into Yarny, and continue writing.
Logging out is important, as it will hopefully clear out whatever problem was encountered that was causing the "error saving..." message. If it persists, clear your cookies, refresh, and then dive back in.
I hope this helps! Even though Yarny is in beta, we pride ourselves on being reliable, so anytime you're experiencing unintended behavior, we want to start investigating it as quickly as possible to help ensure it doesn't happen again!
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Thanks very much for replying. All looking good today - I'll let you know if I get another problem. The format definitely works well for me to do NaNoWriMo. In fact, without it, I don't think I'd even be attempting this year, I'm in so many different places in a week.
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It seems to me to be a nice program to write in, but there is a little thing that irritates me. The words are counted diffently here at nanowrimo.org than in yarny. For example in yarny I've written 5703 words, but when I put it at my profile here, it is only 5233 words.
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Do you know if there is a tutorial to show us how to make the best of the features? And when there's a paid version, will there be a tutorial for it to teach us how to get the most from this cool program? I know it's simple, but a little tutorial wouldn't hurt. Thanks.
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I really love the layout for Yarny, but if there isn't a downloadable client already, might I suggest it? I want a program I can run without an internet connection, or can Yarny be accessed without internet and also save to my own computer and flash drives? :)
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Yarny, now in the Apple App Store
For all of you who have enjoyed using Yarny and asked for a mobile solution, we're now very happy to announce that Yarny has made its way into the Apple App Store. Check out the official post: http://getyarny.com/index.php/blog/yarny-iphone-app/
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I'm excited this is free. I've been trying it out, and what I see, I think is great so far.
The offline option will be awesome. I'm pretty excited about that, too.
Mostly, I just want to say I appreciate the privacy. I'm kind of leery about posting any of my content on the internet in the first place. It's a comfort to know someone still takes privacy seriously, and doesn't take the opportunity to make a buck off it.
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Ooh, I like this. I've used Google Docs for everything previously, but Yarny looks like it'll provide the same convenience as Google Docs, but be made for writers. I'm trying it out now, and it looks great! I assume details such as formatting will be added later.
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Our first goal was to focus on providing a comfortable and sleek interface that makes it easy to accomplish the most important part of authoring a novel: writing. Since our launch we've already had a few feature releases though, adding more organizational capabilities. Stay tuned, as we plan on providing some basic formatting as well as some theming/personalization options.
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Love the idea. Just tried it and found it to be a little glitchy, tried giving feedback but couldn't access the form. That said, I'm on an unsupported browser, so I shall try on Chrome when I get home. Definitely an interesting idea for NaNoWriMo because I write on different computers through the month and tend to spend a lot of time emailing my story back and forth to myself.
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You'll definitely get the best experience if you use Chrome. Firefox and Safari are also supported. We're growing our list of supported browsers. We definitely look forward to our users being able to use Yarny on any computer/mobile device that you have available!
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It looks great, but I really want something that will work for someone whose writing computer does NOT have an internet connection. Period. Other than hoping you don't lose your flashdrive...
I'm fine with a USB/ethernet/what have you to connect to another computer, just not the internet. (It's capable, via ethernet or modem, but there's no browser or virus protection software on it...)
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Being a web-app, Yarny will require an internet connection - that way we can back up your writing and let you access it from anywhere.
However, we understand that sometimes the best writing environment for you might not have an internet connection. Though not available yet, we have in the works the ability for Yarny to run in a browser that isn't currently connected to the internet. Then, once you reconnect, everything you wrote while offline will be saved.
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Any idea when this feature will be available?
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It looks pretty interesting. Will give it a try this november and see how my work browser likes it ^^
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I've been trying out Yarny lately and I like it so far! It will be useful to have a distraction-free environment once November 1st rolls around. :)
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I do like the look and ease of use of this. I've tried yWriter and Scrivner in the past but didn't like either of them leaving me using google docs and MSword.
This however, looks great and I look forward to really sinking my teeth into it.
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I got a chromebook this summer, and I was resigned to having to type everything in google docs, so that I could write on all my7 computers, but this seems so much better! So far, I really like the snippets, and the built- in notes on the side... but I
heavily depend on being able to mark certain things in bold, and other things in italics... any word on when that will work?
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We have some plans for implementing a subset of Markdown.
So even though it's not displaying it yet, feel free to add *one* set of asterisks around writing you want italicized and **two** sets of asterisks for bold. Then, when we do rollout that release, you'll already be ahead of the game!
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This looks like a very cool writing tool. I'm using it on the Opera browser and so far it seems to be working fine. Will you be testing Yarny in the Opera browser in the future?
Also, I know that the formatting and such is going to be kept simple, but are there any plans for a highlighting tool? As I'm writing I like to be able to quickly highlight individual sentences or paragraphs that I know I'll need to come back to.
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Just a thought on how we've heard some users are marking sections or sentences to come back to. They are putting in a code word, such as REWORK or TODO. Then, they do a search for the term in the Yarny search box, and all of the snippets containing the code word shown. To quickly find a word in a very long snippet that's selected, just use the browser search. Hope this helps, while we continue to work in more enhancements for Yarny.
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This really just rocked my day~! Thanks Chris! I'll try it for this years NaNo. If I have any problems with it, I'll just post them here.
Update
We have just released a minor update to fix the problem some users were having. Yarny will no longer lie to you, telling you that you're "not logged in," when you very clearly are.
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Just FYI, I signed up, and am still getting that message. Looks good, but I won't commit to writing on it while it is telling me that it isn't saving permanently.
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We've had another update.
This errant message no longer shows up for a newly registered user, either.
Also, we've introduced a few other minor interface upgrades, and auto indents.
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I already started planning out my novel and writing character profiles in Yarny! It's easy to use, distraction-free, and I can get on it from pretty much anywhere! Definitely using it for NaNo this year.
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This is exactly what I needed to keep all my information in one place! I can add notes on my characters on the right side which is easily accessible. So much easier than rifling through paperwork or skimming through my wordpad. I am positive that Yarny is going to be my best friend for the next two months. :)
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I found this about a week ago. It's pretty neat, and I'm liking it, but I seem to have a bit of trouble committing to writing software. Be sure that I'll use it; the question is just how often. I'm eager to have italics and bold and, particularly, an indent button. :X I just can't stand having to double-return so my paragraphs don't meld into each other. If I have to copy/paste into a Word doc that I can print for class, those extra spaces are a pain. :(
Overall, though, I'm liking where Yarny is headed.
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The first thing I thought was "Argh no speelcherker" but then I realised that, when I use Chrome, I've got one built in to that anyway.
I've downloaded and trialled a load of different software and I confess I've had the same thoughts as the Yarny folk - it's all a bit complicated and needlessly 'in your face' feature wise. This looks like the winner for me.
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We definitely gain a few inherent advantages of being a web-app.
The spell checking even works if you're writing in a different language. You can just change your browser's language setting (usually by right clicking on the page and changing the language).
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I plan on trying Yarny once there are basic formatting capabilities (bold, italic etc)
Nothing bothers me more during writing than being distracted because I cannot indent, bold or italicize something. Its like an itch on my frontal lobe and I cant scratch it.
That said, Yarny is definitely the most promising writing app Ive seen! If all else fails, I will be using OpenOffice and a flash drive XD
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When you mention indenting, are you just referring to a tab in front of each paragraph? Or do you like to indent an entire block of text?
Also, since we'll be using Markdown to handle formatting, try using single or double asterisks around your words to *italicize* or **bold** something. It feels more natural than you might think.
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Like, automatic indentation at the beginning of each paragraph. It is just one thing that I'm peculiar about when writing :)
and alright, I'll try that :)
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Ask and ye shall receive.
Yarny now has auto-indenting: Hit 'Enter' to drop to the next line and automatically indent. Hit 'Shift' + 'Enter' to drop to the next line without indenting.
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Awesome!!! That totally made me smile ^_^
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On the page (or pages) where I write the 50,000 words, it is in fact great to have the auto-identing, but it doesn't get handy sometimes on the side snippets (I use some just for little notes and topics) and on the People / Places / Things bar.
And probably there are people who don't like the auto thing, so you really should try to work on some switch or something to turn it on or off when it's more convenient.
You should have some options for us to personalize regarding things like these.
Still, great improvement. I'm definitely using yarny for my November novel.
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Lots of personalization/theming options coming up!
Every time that we build a new feature into Yarny, we like to follow the the same philosophy as existing features: they make the experience better, they make it easier for you to write, and they're so easy to use they doesn't actually require a how-to guide.
An overwhelming 'Preferences' or 'Settings' screen full of dials, knobs, sliders, and check boxes definitely doesn't belong in Yarny. Therefore, It's always a fine line we walk: wanting to deliver a fantastic writing experience that you don't have to think about and still giving you controls to tweak that experience.
However, we have some great ideas on how to implement it.
As a follow-up, how do you (and everyone else) feel about an optional typewriter sound that you can turn on and off?
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many many typewriter sounds! :DD
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so long as I can turn them off, I don't really care -- I usually write with music on, so I probably wouldn't have the sounds on.
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I would like that!
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This looks really great, but I won't always be connected when I'm writing, so the offline feature is a must for me. I'm going to play around with it, though. Looks like fun.
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I'm actually really impressed so far. I write in notepad and this gives me a really nice way to keep track of everything, check word count and save at the same time, and break everything out without using clunky folders or downloading software. Definitely looking forward to an off-line mode, too.