Ladies, the guy you prefer... http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394 dangerously_dru Which guy do you find more appealing in a novel? The guy who starts off as a douchebaggy jerk. But through growing fond of, and therefore closer to the girl, he softens up and falls in love with her. Think Mr. Darcy in Pride &amp; Prejudice. Or Jace Wayland in The Mortal Instruments series. OR... The guy who has always been kind to her. There when she needs him, would do anything for her. His affections are known from the beginning, obvious to the reader, even when not always to the girl. Think Peeta in The Hunger Games. Or Jacob from Twilight series (if he were to have won her affection). Thanks! Mon, 31 Oct 2011 00:41:01 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_305635 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_305635 penfold The guy who has always been kind to her. I love that guy. Not that I have anything against Mr. Darcy! :) Mon, 31 Oct 2011 00:55:45 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_305979 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_305979 dangerously_dru I adore Mr. Darcy! But Mr. Bingley was just as wonderful! So I'm stuck lol Mon, 31 Oct 2011 01:11:34 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_306339 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_306339 luvinpadfoot I was never fond of Mr. Darcy, but I'd have to go with the jerk. I love Jace Wayland. :D The steadfast, sweet guys like Peeta and Jacob just annoy the crap out of me. I'm too cynical and pessimistic to like them. Mon, 31 Oct 2011 02:02:36 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_307401 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_307401 mariah125 First one, mostly because the guy I fancy at the moment fits the first bill. Mon, 31 Oct 2011 02:07:52 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_307513 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_307513 Szarka Nice guys finish last? Not in my book they don't. Second one all the way. Jerks aren't my thing. Granted, it depends on the level of jerk, but I'm impatient. I'm not going to wait around for them to soften up on me. Mon, 31 Oct 2011 03:23:59 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_309249 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_309249 dangerously_dru I think I'm leaning towards a more diluted version of the jerk. I think I'm going to make him seem more indifferent than full on cold. I don't know. This is difficult haha Mon, 31 Oct 2011 03:30:17 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_309426 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_309426 dangerously_dru I agree! But they are kinda fun to read about haha Mon, 31 Oct 2011 03:32:34 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_309480 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_309480 Szarka At the same time, doormat-sweet guys bother me. So it evens out. ...Why wasn't there a "snarky-sweet geek boy" option!? I call discrimination against my favorite kind of guy! ;) Mon, 31 Oct 2011 03:34:58 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_309549 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_309549 dangerously_dru There's such a thing???!! Mon, 31 Oct 2011 03:37:11 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_309595 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_309595 Szarka I can dream, can't I? C'mon, most romance writing with the types you mentioned is wish-fulfillment anyway. I might as well read wish-fulfillment about the type of fictional guy I like best. Mon, 31 Oct 2011 03:54:29 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_310035 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_310035 selenehekate The first one, but only because that's how all of my past relationships have been... Mon, 31 Oct 2011 04:21:05 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_310670 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_310670 Jennifer2309 I think the second one... Some one who treats with me respect from the beginning and shows me kindness deserves me in the end... =) Mon, 31 Oct 2011 04:22:47 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_310710 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_310710 allie_bigelow Darcy. Oh, Darcy. Mon, 31 Oct 2011 05:52:00 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_312941 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_312941 EelKat Normally I'd say the guy who was always kind to her, but than you had to go and throw Mr Darcy in there and confuse me... [quote=allie_bigelow] Darcy. Oh, Darcy. [/quote] ...oh... no... wait... that should read like this: Brandon! oh! Col Brandon! Rickman! Alan Rickman! Snape Prof Snape! ;p :) Mon, 31 Oct 2011 06:18:30 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_313509 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_313509 dangerously_dru Haha I feel ya Mon, 31 Oct 2011 06:21:53 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_313580 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_313580 EelKat Actually, I tend to go for tall dark, pale and brooding: Mr. Rochester, Prof Snape, that guy from The Window on Washington Square (I forgot his name) and that other guy from The Pale Lover (I forgot his name too) and best of all: Roderic Usher!!!!!!!!!!! I looooooves Roderic Usher! &lt;3 &lt;3 &lt;3 And did I mention Severus? Mon, 31 Oct 2011 06:22:42 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_313608 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_313608 dangerously_dru Loved Col Brandon! Perfect example of number 2 Mon, 31 Oct 2011 06:23:28 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_313625 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_313625 Netherworld_Inc Go with the nice guy. While I love me a douchebaggy jerk, the nice guys get it right. Mon, 31 Oct 2011 06:36:46 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_313918 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_313918 bjpeat I say he shouldn't be a jerk, but not be "into her" either. Nice, but in a completely platonic way, and totally with limits on the niceness. Not afraid to tease her, does his own thing and lets her do hers sometimes, and compeltely willing to call her on her crap. In other words, he starts out thinking of her as a friend or even a "kid sister", then grows into a deeper relationship. Maybe he's even friends with her brother or formerly dated her sister (or friend). Mon, 31 Oct 2011 07:02:58 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_314332 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_314332 bjpeat Think Ron and Hermione in HP, Reeve in the Face on the Milk Carton, Brandon in the Hawk and the Jewel. Mon, 31 Oct 2011 07:06:38 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_314398 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_314398 ChelaRose I feel like although a lot of women prefer the second one they're more attracted to the first. Maybe you shouldn't go for polar opposites. The one interesting thing about Peeta (as I saw it) was that even though he was strong and dangerous (he did kill people in all the books, I hate that people think of him as soft) he was just more tender toward Katniss. And I found it a heck of a lot more interesting that in the third book he hated her and despite being so angry and scared of her that he attempted to kill her that he still ended up in love with her. Basically I feel like a guy can be a jerk to everyone but have a soft spot for a certain girl, y'know? But that's not the question, so I pick the first one! Mon, 31 Oct 2011 09:13:38 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_315866 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_315866 Grollen Not a lady, but I like menfolk, so I thought I'd add my two cents. While I like dark and brooding, I think it's possible to have that without making the guy a douchebag. To me, once a douche, always a douche. So... some mix of both, I imagine? A guy that can be soft and loving, but might be a bit reluctant and conflicted with himself and how a relationship might affect his own goals. Mon, 31 Oct 2011 12:23:41 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_317614 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_317614 IFangirlLunaLovegood For me, it's a tie. I can't help to love Mr. Darcy and Jace, but at the same time; Jacob is "safe" and 100% there, you know? Mon, 31 Oct 2011 12:38:00 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_317785 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_317785 heatherbee Between Mr. Darcy and Colonel Brandon, I'd pick Colonel Brandon every time. So definitely the second option. Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:35:24 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_325778 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_325778 kalika1981 Jace. (I loved him even as a douchebag.) The obnoxious jerks that aren't actually obnoxious jerks always tug at the heartstrings. Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:10:06 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_326704 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_326704 dangerously_dru I think that's what I'm going with. Something like he's so wrapped up in his career/degree/Whatevs that he doesn't really take notice of her and the effect she slowly has on him until BAM he realizes he's in love. Tue, 01 Nov 2011 00:40:33 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_333566 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_333566 WoodChic Darcy. Tue, 01 Nov 2011 00:40:43 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_333570 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_333570 TCBree inuyasha. he's annoying, rude, and a demon, but you gotta love him. so douchebaggy jerk. Tue, 01 Nov 2011 00:51:03 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_333862 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_333862 PacificPikachu I'm not a fan of jerks myself. That said, you have to make the nice guy interesting and flawed in some way, too--if their romance is perfect, how boring is that? As long as there's some sort of conflict, interest, and chemistry there, I'm all for the nice guys. Tue, 01 Nov 2011 00:55:46 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_334011 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_334011 Crunchy I find both appealing and either of them can work/not work in stories, but for me, personally, I would choose the nice guy. Jerks don't make healthy relationships and they get overused in books and films. Tue, 01 Nov 2011 07:28:46 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_342917 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_342917 ZoraSkywalker Oh gosh, can I choose neither? XD Peeta was ridiculously insufferable in his undying love for Katniss -- really I was like "Dude, just shut up already! She's not interested." But at the same time I can't stand jerks -- though as long as the jerk isn't also obnoxiously arrogant than I suppose I can tolerate him more -- especially if he really isn't a jerk. I'm not a Twilight fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I didn't mind Jacob nearly as much as I minded Peeta. Tue, 01 Nov 2011 07:34:07 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_343038 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_343038 Star1Bandit Urg, in a book idk. real life second, definatel, but in a novel the first one is always more fun to read. also while the second has more romance through the whole novel, the first one has much stronger flares of romance. Food for thought. Tue, 01 Nov 2011 07:55:32 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_343490 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_343490 oceanlights There is something about the Darcy character that really invites good storytelling. Because, when you have a jerk, or a guy that is emotionally distant, there are so many questions and places to go with that. Why is he like that? What is it about your MC that drives this guy to change? Does he really need to change? And sometimes Darcy characters are just more fun. There is tension, you have to earn that relationship, and I don't end up walking all over the guy. Nice guys are great, but they tend to be doormats, which is irritating. Jerks are fun, and provide a challenge. And sometimes they can be absolutely hilarious in their desire to be aloof. Tue, 01 Nov 2011 09:06:05 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_344905 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_344905 Balkeir Gah. I really can't choose between them. I love the kind of guys who are kind to her from the start, and love her throughout, but I love those jerk types too. All rooted from a show I saw when I was a kid, where there was a knight who was always kind to the MC and then a young king who was a jerk most of the story, and then softened up at the end. Gah, to this day I have trouble picking who she should be with, even though it ended up being the arse-wipe king, xD Tue, 01 Nov 2011 11:13:40 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_346682 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_346682 Silhouette. I would say the latter Tue, 01 Nov 2011 15:51:56 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_351788 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_351788 melkoosmann I vote for the nice guy, as long as he has some gumption. No doormats, please. The jerk is, in my opinion, more overdone than the nice guy--but maybe I just notice jerks more because I don't actually like them. I think the jerk works best if the writer lets him redeem himself somehow. Jace Wayland &amp; Mr. Darcy both do this well. Please don't have the girl like a guy BECAUSE he's a jerk--especially not if there's a nice guy in the mix. I'm thinking of the Ethan Hawk character in Reality Bites--a movie from my teen days. The guy was a douche, and the girl fell for him...why? I mean, I get that he was vulnerable and artsy and smart, but he never once stopped acting like a douche. Tue, 01 Nov 2011 17:15:58 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_353769 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_353769 dangerously_dru Good point!! Thanks! Tue, 01 Nov 2011 20:49:36 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_358495 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_358495 dangerously_dru I'm so with you on that. I think what makes romances with guys like Darcy so interesting is the fact that their affections aren't just freely and easily given, they have to be earned, like you said. The girl has to be something spectacular to have his heart, opposed to him falling for her at first sight, with no further reasoning. The process of earning that affection is what makes for a good story. Tue, 01 Nov 2011 20:55:49 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_358702 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_358702 dangerously_dru No no, I would never have the girl fall for the jerk because he's a jerk. Girls like that annoy the crap out of me. I'm thinking more along the lines of they're jerks do to the fact that they have a wall up (perhaps they once got their heart broken?) and although he has the tough exterior, you can see (as with the case of Darcy) that he really is a good guy inside. His social skills are just lacking. Tue, 01 Nov 2011 20:59:51 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_358853 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_358853 AmandaSanlaville I really wasn't sure from the descriptions, but the examples chose for me! I'd take Darcy over Peeta anyday. *dreamy* Tue, 01 Nov 2011 21:41:44 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_359736 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_359736 Drifting_Petals Usually number 2. Jace Wayland is an exception. Tue, 01 Nov 2011 23:46:52 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_364364 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_364364 bevers Yuck. What a choice. I'm not a fan of jerks unless of course they're horribly misunderstood and once you get to know them their actions are not really in the jerk category. I'm not fond of the way too nice guy either. Boring! I dated on of those once and broke up with him because he was just too nice. Not much help, am I? I suggest you do a combo. The guy has got to create conflict, but we've got to like him some, too. Wed, 02 Nov 2011 00:18:45 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_365539 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_365539 Pirate on the Bay Going with number two as more consistently likeable. I do like the "douchebaggy guy who softens up" thing if done a certain way, but NOT if he only softens up because of pure, plain and simple love. Because when a girl (not suffering, not experience, not regret or lessons learned) is the sole reason for the "improvement" in a guy (actually, this applies to females as well), I always find myself thinking that the change is really probably related more to hormones and the instinct to mate than it is to any real change of heart — it's just that the guy has enough of a sense of propriety or maybe of social pressure that he's not going to go all piratey and steal the girl regardless of whether she likes him or not. However, guy type number one is somewhat more likely to inspire my obsessive admiration IF he actually seems to truly suffer and struggle and think and become wiser in the process of improving as a person. Wed, 02 Nov 2011 00:43:15 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_366496 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_366496 Pirate on the Bay Oh, yeah, good point. I kind of assumed that "nice guy" doesn't mean "wimp," because there are plenty of (...fictional...) nice guys who aren't pushovers and who are strong and manly and such. I don't really include wimpy nice guys in the category of real nice guys, because I tend to feel they're only nice out of wimpiness, not out of a sense of inner strength. Being REALLY nice at the same time as being functional and smart can take a lot of guts and determination and patience, so my "nice guy" is inherently not "too" nice. ;) Wed, 02 Nov 2011 00:45:59 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_366587 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_366587 fpwriter92 Darcy &lt;3 Wed, 02 Nov 2011 00:47:18 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_366630 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_366630 OpheliaCat The guy who's always been nice is nice, but give him a few flaws at least. It's too unnatural to be that nice. What would be better is a nice guy who's always nice, but gets seriously mean when something unexpected happens. Like, he get's supremely jealous and feels like hitting her, but knowing he couldn't live with himself if he did, he tortures himself at his inability to control his jealousy... yeah....flaws are great.... ^_^ Uh...I guess I like douchbags. Wed, 02 Nov 2011 01:27:28 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_367950 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_367950 dei.gratia.hobbit The one who has always been kind! So very, very much this. Examples: I hated the Twilight series, but Jacob was the one character I actually liked... and then the book actually broke my heart when idiot Bella turned him down. Seriously?! I saw several other people mention Col. Brandon. Oh my gosh, yes. And, in keeping with Alan Rickman's brilliant roles, my dearly beloved Severus Snape. Seriously. Major Lily/Snape shipper, right here. Examples of the first that just eternally tick me off? Exhibit A, Disney's The Princess and the Frog. The guy is a womanizer and a lazy bum, and over the course of one song we're supposed to believe he's completely changed? Yeah, right. That's so often how I feel about the Jerk Turns Nice To Get The Girl stories - our much-adored Mr. Darcy possibly being the primary shining exception to that rule (of course, he actually was a great guy anyway; in a big way, it turned out that he was, above all, overly cautious and definitely shy, thus coming off as a jerk). In most of these cases, it just feels to me like the girl is getting herself into what is going to become an abusive situation. It occurs to me that I'm ranting. Sorry. I'll shut up now and let other people express their opinions now. :) Wed, 02 Nov 2011 03:24:06 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_372063 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_372063 e.marie Nice Guys for the win! I love them, Jacob from Twilight or Col. Brandon, etc. I think it can show a strength of character to be right up front about his affections and intentions, and is much fresher than the overused (in my opinion) jerk archetype. Wed, 02 Nov 2011 04:06:51 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_373607 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_373607 BirdWhisperer The nice guy, in both fiction and real life. The jerks with a heart of a gold are all over the place in fiction, and I don't think any exist in reality. Wed, 02 Nov 2011 05:41:20 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_376862 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_376862 Katie Dawn Douchebaggy jerk turned soft ... I fall in love with that type of character 99% of the time! Wed, 02 Nov 2011 06:12:32 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_377933 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_377933 FrostAngel I find the first one more appealing, because it's more interesting in my opinion to have a character who's more dynamic in terms of his emotions. It also makes for some nice drama, since oftentimes there's a scene where he has to choose between the girl and his douchebaggy friends, and that's exiting. The second type of character has his place, too, but it's easy to overdo it until he just becomes really annoying. Wed, 02 Nov 2011 13:11:17 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_385195 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_385195 DotchiLatham A jerk that gets killed off in the end. I am rather irritated today. My answer will be different after my doctors appointment with the really hot doctor. Wed, 02 Nov 2011 14:15:16 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_386282 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_386282 lepi19 Jace all the way, even as a douchebag he was lovable :) Wed, 02 Nov 2011 19:42:00 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_394646 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_394646 Reissycup Oh I definitely love the Darcys of the world! I do have a soft-spot for the guy that tries too hard, is always there for his girl, and waits patiently in the sidelines. I ALWAYS want him to get the girl...but then I remember what a wuss he is, in comparison to the bad boys. So I vote for the jerk...he makes the story a bit more fun anyways! Wed, 02 Nov 2011 20:42:21 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_396544 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_396544 Reissycup They actually do. My man is a bit like that...he never goes quite to the level of being an inconsiderate jerk (he's never been intentionally mean to me...maybe to other people) but he does spend a lot of his time making snarky comments and being a general d-bag. And then he turns it all around and opens my doors for me, makes me dinner, and writes the sweetest love notes! I don't think I'd like him if he was only considerate and sweet all the time...it'd be too mundane for me. Wed, 02 Nov 2011 20:47:22 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_396699 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_396699 april.berries The jerk. ;) Wed, 02 Nov 2011 21:34:42 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_398224 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_398224 dangerously_dru Haha I loved your rant! Fri, 04 Nov 2011 04:39:12 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_448589 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_448589 Mikki The first one definitely (Mr. Darcy) even though I hated Jace. I personally like men who are more on the aggressive/dark/brooding side ;D, I do like sweet guys but I don't]want to date a guy who is just like me. Fri, 04 Nov 2011 05:00:30 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_449261 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_449261 cmangle How dare you make me choose between Jace and Peeta! HOW DARES YOU?! Okay I know how to solve this . . . Colin Firth is a much better Darcy than the actors they have picked out for Jace and Peeta, I mean ANTHONY FROM SWEENEY TODD IS NOT SMEXY! Fri, 04 Nov 2011 05:27:55 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_450057 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_450057 ChristinaGleason The bad boy. Always the bad boy. Dammit. (I did marry the good guy. But I like reading about the bad boys...) Fri, 04 Nov 2011 06:00:15 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_450983 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_450983 doris27 I have a weak spot for "troubled souls" as someone once told me. But I have learned over time that in real life, there is rarely (if ever) such a thing as a jerk with a heart of gold. Pretty much if they're jerks on the outside, they're jerks on the inside, too. What that recognition will mean for my fiction is still being determined. Fri, 04 Nov 2011 20:54:45 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_466348 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_466348 doris27 Also, I think some of it comes down to what Frodo said about Strider...I don't remember the exact quote, but something about how an enemy would look sweeter and feel more foul. I think there is something to be said for that with men, too. Some men can put on a good show, but be manipulators and jerks. And some people don't put on a good show, but have the right stuff on the inside. So for some people it may be more about substance over form, rather than "bad boy" over "good guy." But that's different from a guy being a jerk. I think that usually just means he's a jerk. Fri, 04 Nov 2011 20:57:54 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_466442 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_466442 dragonslancer nice guy over jerk Fri, 04 Nov 2011 22:36:51 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_469146 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_469146 greenwrite The first one... Sat, 05 Nov 2011 04:57:46 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_479518 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_479518 Naffy hmm, always end up rooting for the jerk-turned-nice-guy, but then I think about the poor nice-guy and his destiny of always coming in second and it makes me sad. Sat, 05 Nov 2011 16:51:57 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_490425 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_490425 Naffy hmm, always end up rooting for the jerk-turned-nice-guy, but then I think about the poor nice-guy and his destiny of always coming in second and it makes me sad. Sat, 05 Nov 2011 16:52:21 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_490442 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_490442 cindy9712 The first one, definitely. Two words: DAMON SALVATORE. Sat, 05 Nov 2011 18:18:25 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_492153 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_492153 Misteree Gurl The first one all the way! There's something about a jerk being able to turn the switch to be nice to the one he loves that seems really powerful. All Girls Want a Bad Boy and Nice Guys Finish Last for a reason... Sat, 05 Nov 2011 19:14:32 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_493442 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_493442 disastrous I'm always for the guy who's kind from the start. The jerkass turned nice types tend to piss me off. Sat, 05 Nov 2011 19:23:55 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_493685 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_493685 scammer I always say I prefer the one who's always been nice, but I seem to have a habit for falling for jerks. *sigh* Sat, 05 Nov 2011 19:56:39 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_494477 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_494477 lissameliss #1 because no man is perfect and if he seems too nice all the way through, he's either got a serious problem hidden really deep and most likely his serious problem is not that he is a vampire but that he's reeeeaally boring! Sat, 05 Nov 2011 20:25:23 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_495168 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_495168 dangerously_dru Oh my gosh I know right?!?! Honestly not looking forward to that made-into-movie. Of course I'm one of the few people who wouldn't prefer Alex Pettyfer in his place either. Sun, 06 Nov 2011 00:42:10 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_502151 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=2#forum_thread_comment_502151 DraconisScale56 The bad boy of course! It just makes it more interesting to have that kind of tension, then for him to change and love her. I love 'bad' characters that turn out not so bad. But were it real life, I'm sure I would choose the nice guy. Sun, 06 Nov 2011 01:07:24 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_502926 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_502926 rshl I'm going to vote for the guy who was always nice. Mostly because that's my lot in life (the kind friend that doesn't get noticed 'til later), that's how my dad chose his girlies when he was in high school (he filled out toward the end and told the bitches that had been mean to him to get to the back of the line), and those are the guys that I tend to fall for, even if I don't pick them first (my life is a vicious irony). Sun, 06 Nov 2011 04:52:47 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_509410 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_509410 MissMantin Honestly, if the guy's character is given depth and allowed to develop naturally, I'll fall head over heels for either type. I tend to find the arrogant guy more entertaining, but the guy who waits quietly no matter what the girl does - mm, he really steals my heart. And since everybody's fixated on the Mr. Darcy example... I've always liked Captain Wentworth better. Sun, 06 Nov 2011 06:06:13 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_511507 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_511507 BludgerOwl29 The Peeta/Jacob guy for sure. Sun, 06 Nov 2011 08:28:07 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_514628 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_514628 Obscurite_Asile For me the second one. Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:02:44 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_515872 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_515872 KariganM Darcy. There is something that always comes off as weak from a Peeta or Jacob, and I prefer to have strong males to compliment the strong females I put in stories. Mon, 07 Nov 2011 01:52:08 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_533991 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_533991 lhenriksen Real life: the guy that's always there for you. However in a story it's often more interesting to see a character you didn't like at first change into something unexpected and attractive. Mon, 07 Nov 2011 03:38:48 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_536937 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_536937 Chiki Mongo Ooooh. I'm going to have to say douche bag because he'd be more compLex, I feeL. It wouLd be cooL to see him grow because of Love. Mon, 07 Nov 2011 04:13:56 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_537924 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_537924 IvoryJaied I hate the kid who starts as a jerk. I always want to pound his/her face in. xD Mon, 07 Nov 2011 04:40:14 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_538617 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_538617 hermionechick8 I would say the initial jerk. Or even just the man that keeps to himself and is more mysterious. When I guy is always by the girls side from start to finish I can't help but think that either a. it's unrealistic. Relationships have problems, what makes it a good relationship isn't the lack of tension but the ability to overcome it. or b. that the male character doesn't have a spine and hides behind his 'woman' and is nothing more than a worry wart, yes man. On the other hand I don't like the male character who is a jerk AND a womanizer. Mon, 07 Nov 2011 05:36:03 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_540127 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_540127 JanaeB Dude...You can't pick between Peeta and Jace, you canNOT EVER choose anyone over Mr. Darcy. EVER. And Jacob has a motorcycle, great hair, and abig heart. How do you top that?! Now, if they're both in the same story, obviously, the nice guy, cause when the chick breaks the good guys heart she just comes off like a heartless creep (Sometimes I hated Katniss. And I always hated Bella, but at least Katniss had, like, her life constantly in danger and an excuse not to notice boys drooling over her). Then again, when both kinds of guys are in a novel, the nice guy tends to come off wimpy and kind of annoying (Simon seemed that way sometimes). In real life, the good guy. In books, I liked the "bad" guys you said, but the thing is, you could always tell those two were okay people. I mean, if you're talking Draco Malfoy and such, it's like hecks no. Grab yourself a Peeta and get the heck out of dodge. But when Jace is being funny and charming and stuff, you can tell they should be together. Now, if you make a guy reeeally evil, but they fall in love, and he makes an actual DRAMATIC change to become good, that's good readin right there. In this entire comment, i don't think I made a decision at all. =) Mon, 07 Nov 2011 06:53:49 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_542008 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_542008 I Can't Write For My Life I would have said the sweet guy hands down but damn you had to say Mr. Darcy! So my answer goes like this: I would pick the sweet guy hands down... of and only if Mr. Darcy was already taken. But only if it was Mr. Darcy, if it was Jace I would hands down choose Simon! Tue, 08 Nov 2011 02:32:51 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_561152 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_561152 Heart.Spell.Ink Stefan and Damon Salvatore instantly came to mind when I read this question. XD Which, Damon is mmf. And douchebags entertain me. xD So, yeah, douchebaggy. =3 Tue, 08 Nov 2011 03:27:58 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_562520 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_562520 mutewitness Darcey...of course. He kills me. Tue, 08 Nov 2011 17:59:54 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_575090 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_575090 mutewitness Darcy actually. Tue, 08 Nov 2011 18:00:31 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_575103 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_575103 Dream Hacker I like both depending on the book. I guess I probably tend to go for the first one. If you know Vampire Diaries, I like Damon far more than Stefan. I'm a sucker so the somewhat bad boys (in literature!). They're just more interesting. This is why characters like Dr. House are so popular. Tue, 08 Nov 2011 18:35:31 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_575710 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_575710 Olivia Mohtady First One! It's better to build the love and build the characters in the process. Tue, 08 Nov 2011 22:54:56 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_580910 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_580910 a.quizzical.quagmire Definitely type one. I LOVED JACE. Wed, 09 Nov 2011 00:48:25 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_583581 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_583581 OxymoronicEpilogue Combination! I like the guy who's like Peeta but acts like Mr. Darcy, perhaps because he has some ideas about what makes a man 'manly' and acting like he cares about people isn't one of them. So rather then softening up and falling for her, he grows to trust her enough that he starts to reveal his true self to her (whether by accident or intentionally). If I had to choose one of the two I would say Darcy, though, because I tend to act like that as well - if I like someone I'll be a jerk to them because I'm awkward enough that I don't know what else to do, so them sparring back is best. Wed, 09 Nov 2011 04:33:47 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_588282 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_588282 velvettouch_connectingdots I would like both. But the second one's more romantic.... but the first one's so awesome. I'm going with Darcy. Wed, 09 Nov 2011 05:54:57 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_590076 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_590076 Naffy damn. It posted twice. Sorry. Wed, 09 Nov 2011 17:43:35 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_597849 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_597849 Tanya897 Nothing can top Mr. Darcy. Wed, 09 Nov 2011 18:00:33 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_598096 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_598096 dangerously_dru [quote=JanaeB] I mean, if you're talking Draco Malfoy and such, it's like hecks no. Grab yourself a Peeta and get the heck out of dodge. [/quote] This made me giggle :) Wed, 09 Nov 2011 21:17:32 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_601506 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_601506 Rissa. I prefer the obnoxious jerks that grow softer. c: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 21:36:37 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_601896 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_601896 mizushimo I'd go for a guy who loves the girl but is more subtle about it, less needy but still with genuine feelings. The perfect example would be Marcus from Babylon 5. *sigh, Marcus*. He's charming, socially adept, patient and easy going. He didn't stalk Susan like a hunter after a trophy, rather their feelings developed for each other over the course of the series. What can I say, I like a romance of equals. I'm not found of guys who starts off treating their love interests like crap. But I don't know, part of Darcy's charm was that the MC didn't like him at first either. He falls for her before she got over her dislike for him, then he had to set about wooing the lovely lady in a sort of inept way, while society and rumors got in the way of her own eventually acceptance of him. I think girls like a guy who is persistant, and bonus if the guy doesn't instantly fall for her the first time they meet because that means that his feelings aren't shallow or fleeting. Thu, 10 Nov 2011 01:00:36 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_605550 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_605550 clhandel the jerk Thu, 10 Nov 2011 18:56:56 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_619959 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_619959 Wind Ann Wise Definetly the Jacob type. Thu, 10 Nov 2011 22:25:49 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_623486 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_623486 bjpeat [quote=dangerously_dru] [quote=JanaeB] I mean, if you're talking Draco Malfoy and such, it's like hecks no. Grab yourself a Peeta and get the heck out of dodge. [/quote] This made me giggle :) [/quote] Yes, I loved this, too! And I totally agree... you could not pay me enough to make me go on even a single coffee date with Draco... not even after book 7, when he's pitiable and broken and not quite such a jerk anymore. Fri, 11 Nov 2011 00:38:08 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_626274 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_626274 dangerously_dru I am with you. After all Draco did, or at least attempted to, there is no way he could redeem himself in my eyes. Fri, 11 Nov 2011 03:08:08 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_628922 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=3#forum_thread_comment_628922 tsimbat Neither. Douchebaggy makes me immediately start checking for characteristics of psychopathy and narcissism. Boy who's willing to do anything strikes me as needy. Couldn't get through twilight. Peeta was ok-- I felt bad for him, but, if he had been after me, I probably wouldn't have wanted to be in a relationship with him either. Fri, 11 Nov 2011 04:24:49 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_630223 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_630223 Foxstar2000 Eurgh it's hard to choose! In real life I'd probably go for #2, but in literature I prefer #1. Most of the time. It just makes for more drama and tension between the characters if they don't get along, rather than 'Oh she's my best friend and I'm in love with her and I'd do anything for her and she doesn't like me like that BOO HOO'. [i]Big[/i] exaggeration, I know, but still. Fri, 11 Nov 2011 05:17:49 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_631215 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_631215 Foxstar2000 Sigh. *failed at tagging for italics* *misses edit button* Fri, 11 Nov 2011 05:18:43 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_631229 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_631229 Lix H. I think both types can be appealing. No kind character should be perfect and you should be careful with the douchebaggy characters -- very often the writer's and any given reader's idea of what counts as 'irredeemable' differs, and it can be really fucking creepy and sad and even hard to believe if the girl falls for the reformed douchebag but never holds him accountable for his past actions. I mean, if you're going for creepy and sad, then, sure. But if you're going for healthy romance, you have to be careful with that. With kind characters you run the risk of them turning out to be Nice Guys™, who believe that just because they're nice to a girl, that girl has to love them back, or owes them romantic attention, and they get angry when the girl isn't interested in them that way. Also something to keep in mind. Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:55:26 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_638992 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_638992 JABooker The first type, usually all the male leads in stories I write end up being somewhat like that. Sun, 13 Nov 2011 00:49:17 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_663844 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_663844 stonecoldcrazy I like the first one. I don't have a compelling argument, it's just what I prefer. Sun, 13 Nov 2011 10:38:52 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_672518 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_672518 Calista.Artemis [quote=kalika1981] Jace. (I loved him even as a douchebag.) [/quote] ^this Sun, 13 Nov 2011 19:55:30 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_675962 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_675962 Lilia Sparks I'd go with number 2 the entire time. Jace was always just kind of an idiot to me. I liked Alec more. And then he had to go and go gay on me. Wow dude. That's all I can say. So yeah. The guy who's always been there for you. Sun, 13 Nov 2011 22:08:41 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_677325 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_677325 littlewonder Yes, you did. :P And yes, I tend to agree on that count. Otherwise, yes, I too would go for nice guy. (Like Remus...?) Mon, 14 Nov 2011 01:34:27 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_680851 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_680851 martianlunatic In real life, I'd pick the nice one, but in fiction, I'd go for the jerk. Mon, 14 Nov 2011 17:26:59 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_691535 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_691535 lcplsnd I like jerks. They're so much more fun. Wed, 16 Nov 2011 19:12:40 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_725724 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_725724 Fiona W A different sort of pick from my own generation: <strong>John Lennon</strong>. Kind, devoted, thought his wife was endlessly gorgeous and artistic, and only ran around on her once. Loved his kid. Brilliant. Have I said kind? Thu, 17 Nov 2011 23:13:14 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_743872 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_743872 Emma_Sunshine Off topic... But I love your avatar. ;) Fri, 18 Nov 2011 03:47:11 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_747379 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_747379 CherokeeAlex I'm kind of a sucker for the Mr. Darcy sort of guy. But then I've always been fond of antiheroes, so the always-good sort of characters bore me. Fri, 18 Nov 2011 04:15:40 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_747733 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_747733 dancer_kirsten Oooo, Mr Rochester! &lt;3 Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:12:40 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_752766 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_752766 AsAboveSoBelow I'm a Mr. Darcy lover if only because I'm a total Elizabeth type that just cuts down on the ego the second I smell douchebaggery. So to have a guy who can put up with that AND find that endearing, loveable and attractive? Hell yeah, I'm holding onto him! This isn't to say I like jerks since, for the record, Darcy isn't really a jerk and mean spirited, he's just ever so misunderstood. Sat, 19 Nov 2011 01:48:36 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_758683 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=4#forum_thread_comment_758683 Ambrele oh mister Darcy... Sat, 19 Nov 2011 02:42:03 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=5#forum_thread_comment_759212 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=5#forum_thread_comment_759212 Fircoal Inuyasha..... :D Sat, 19 Nov 2011 04:41:47 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_760478 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_760478 Fircoal I don't really fit the criteria here but that's not going to stop me from sharing! :D Personally I prefer the latter group, especially when they go to the overboard. Nice guys don't always have to be "perfect." My personal favorite type would have to be a stalker with a crush! :D Sat, 19 Nov 2011 05:11:24 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=5#forum_thread_comment_760805 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=5#forum_thread_comment_760805 winx788 Well, I'd say if i got to pick, the guy who had always been there for me. The nice guy. But since my heart makes all the decisions, I've got to say....The douchebaggy jerk. Let's face it; all guys I've ever liked have started out either hating or begrudgingly excepting me. :P Sat, 19 Nov 2011 07:21:38 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=5#forum_thread_comment_762303 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=5#forum_thread_comment_762303 liamarehorselover I'd say the guy who actually wants her -- and shows it. Sat, 19 Nov 2011 08:58:37 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=5#forum_thread_comment_763212 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=5#forum_thread_comment_763212 Lizzie74 That is a tough one :D I think I prefer Peeta Sat, 19 Nov 2011 23:53:15 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=5#forum_thread_comment_769921 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=5#forum_thread_comment_769921 CompulsiveCrocheter Darcy-type, I find their character to be higher quality too. The other guy-type is usually too predictable in books and the Darcy-type aren't generally real jerks anyway, but actually turn out to have the purest love for the woman because it began and ended as true love and not a teenage best friend of the girl crush type of love...that's my favorite at least. Sun, 20 Nov 2011 02:18:47 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=5#forum_thread_comment_771789 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=5#forum_thread_comment_771789 lysstripes Lolol, Brandon. xD Sun, 20 Nov 2011 04:34:50 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_773329 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_773329 dangerously_dru Yes!! Love wentworth! Loving only her, even when there seemed to be no hope. *sigh* Sun, 20 Nov 2011 20:55:20 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_780759 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_780759 MissWonderly I'd take the dynamic character for the purposes of writing an interesting story, but the steady character for the purposes of real-life happiness. Good discussion! I enjoyed this thread! :) Mon, 21 Nov 2011 02:21:23 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=5#forum_thread_comment_784850 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=5#forum_thread_comment_784850 little-nel I was going to say nice guy but you mentioned Darcy and Jace... But then you mentioned Peeta then I was back with nice guy - THEN YOU SAID JACOB AND NOW I'M CONFUSED. Personally, not matter how much I love Darcy, Jace and any other jerky characters that end up being nice... I'd say that I'd go for the one who's always been nice. I love Darcy, but when it comes down to it, I'd rather have Mr Bingley, you know? I love the Bingleys, the Peetas, the Williams (from Downton Abbey) of this world! Also may I add that I don't count Jacob Black in that category - he's definitely a jerk. Tue, 22 Nov 2011 22:42:33 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=5#forum_thread_comment_807232 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=5#forum_thread_comment_807232 ToldByAnIdiot Definitely Mr. Darcy. *swoon* Fri, 25 Nov 2011 05:47:21 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=5#forum_thread_comment_836170 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=5#forum_thread_comment_836170 Nikk_E I personally say the nice guy. Too often we're told that we can change guys with love. *rolls eyes* Doesn't leave much room for the nice guys who feel like they have to jerks in order to get a girl. Yes that happens. My bf is an example of the guy who couldn't get the girl, because he's a nice guy. (But then again he got me. That's a longer story XD) -mini rant- Girls complain a lot about guys not treating them nice, but when they have a guy, who's been there, and has always been there and is the 'nice guy', they just want to be friends. I know it has to do a lot of genetic coding and women being attracted to dominance, but when I read books about it, I'm not impressed. If a guy treats me badly, I'll do the same and won't give him the time of day. End of story. -and mini rant- It's ultimately your book and you can do what you want. Not saying any different either way, but I thought I'd give my honest two cents on this aspect. Fri, 25 Nov 2011 11:03:59 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=5#forum_thread_comment_838404 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=5#forum_thread_comment_838404 ChristieM I would say the guy who's always been nice. Fri, 25 Nov 2011 23:32:51 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=5#forum_thread_comment_843205 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=5#forum_thread_comment_843205 ChristieM SNAPE!!! I liked Snape from the very beginning(: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 23:33:20 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_843212 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_843212 imawesome Definitely the second choice! I loved Peeta and Jacob, they were definitely my favorites. Sun, 27 Nov 2011 02:59:15 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_856274 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_856274 dangerously_dru Thank you! And it is actually a problem in my story, poor guy, I keep alternating his personality between submissive to dominant. And poor FMC, surely that's confusing her. I'll have to fix that in the rewrite. Sun, 27 Nov 2011 04:48:03 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=5#forum_thread_comment_857504 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=5#forum_thread_comment_857504 ddog125 Mr. Darcy I do say, I would vote for you any day Sun, 27 Nov 2011 04:58:37 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=5#forum_thread_comment_857623 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=5#forum_thread_comment_857623 115 The dark handsome flirt that has made his intensions entirly clear. Although somtime the first Example Darcy but only if and this holds for the second as well if once he decieds he likes me he is both clear in his attentions and loyal. Ohh and did I mention I only go for gentleman in otherwards if whickham had been in love with me for years I still wouldn't like him becuase he is a bad bad boy. Sun, 27 Nov 2011 05:28:30 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_857973 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_857973 NobleSlug There's something super appealing about the douchey kind of guy (who isn't as much of a jackass inside), but I can't help but adore the nice, but not clingy guy. :) Tue, 29 Nov 2011 02:27:17 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=5#forum_thread_comment_880052 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=5#forum_thread_comment_880052 KatnissGinnyMaxTally I would have to go with the douchebaggy jerk. It's much more interesting that way. I Wed, 15 Feb 2012 03:33:54 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=5#forum_thread_comment_1140281 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=5#forum_thread_comment_1140281 1018mockingjay Kind of hard to choose, but I would choose the latter. The kind guys always do it a bit better anyways, like Jem in the Infernal Devices. Sat, 18 Feb 2012 12:00:24 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=5#forum_thread_comment_1149478 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=5#forum_thread_comment_1149478 MalcolmCooms This thread is a classic example of why nice guys really dislike the "friend zone". Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:32:45 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=5#forum_thread_comment_1152860 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=5#forum_thread_comment_1152860 MalcolmCooms ...And why we find it hard to have sympathy for the girls who date jerks who they believe are nice and then are "shocked" and "upset" when they turn out to be...jerks. Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:39:37 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=5#forum_thread_comment_1152861 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=5#forum_thread_comment_1152861 MalcolmCooms BTW, how about a third option: A guy who seems like he's just nice and swell and all but who's actually a badass...AKA Neville Longbottom. Kind of the reverse "Jerk with a heart of gold". Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:41:29 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=5#forum_thread_comment_1152862 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=5#forum_thread_comment_1152862 bjpeat Oh, yes. I think you've hit the nail on the head there, Malcolm Cooms. I want that guy who's a good friend with a heart of gold and a long-suffering spirit, often gentle... but who can also be tough and strong-willed when it suits him. And you know what? That's not just the Nevilles of the wizarding world; that could describe Strider (or Faramir, or Legolas, or Frodo, or Sam, or Merry, or Pippin) from Lord of the Rings, too. Or, in some ways, Al Giordino from the movie Sahara. Also somewhat describes Sam in the Transformers movie, or Westley in the Princess Bride. Kind of like Danny from Hawaii 5-0, too. Friendly, oh-so gentle with Gracie and other kids, constantly bantering with Steve, but threaten the people he cares about; and it's Watch out World! because man, oh man-- he can cross the line too! (Shooting the bad guy-- a former friend!-- in the knee to make him answer questions-- who'd have thought? He's been hanging out with Steve (total badass, but not a jerk, Steve. Steve doesn't really do the gentle thing though. And "friendly"- well, definitely not Peeta friendly.) too long.) One other thing: as Keanu Reeves says in the Replacements: "Chicks dig scars." This is true. The amount of h/c and angst out there is a clear testament to this. We like guys with scars because they're tough. That said, not every scar will turn on every girl. Some girls want guys that are really broken (all the better to fix them up and rebuild them from scratch... OR because they think they don't deserve any better). Some girls don't care how the guy got his scars, it all about him being tough. They're the type who settle for guys with "self-inflicted" scars from choosing to do stupid and/or dangerous things for the fun of it, like hockey players and gang members. Some girls just want guys who have been through enough shit to recognize what's good in the world and treasure it all the more. Guys who aren't particularly proud of their scars, but have them because life has taught them a lot through hard circumstances, and they've come through it. That last kind is the kind I like-- but not all of those scars are physical, either. Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:23:47 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=5#forum_thread_comment_1159177 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=5#forum_thread_comment_1159177 simply_complex The second one. Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:46:40 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_1163793 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_1163793 Earthsick Since I'm unforgiving towards douchbaggery behaviour I'd say the kind guy. Then again, I'm totally aromantic so let's just say that's my most rational choice, lol. Mon, 27 Feb 2012 11:24:42 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=5#forum_thread_comment_1173821 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=5#forum_thread_comment_1173821 Arya Svit-Kona Well.... for me it depends upon more than just that, but for the sake of this question, 90% of the time I will like the Jerk with a Heart of Gold more than the nice guy hero. The jerks tend to have a lot more depth in stories and I can sympathize with them a lot more than I can with the nice guy. That's why I never really liked Peeta that much. Sat, 03 Mar 2012 13:00:23 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_1186336 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=1#forum_thread_comment_1186336 Telsanasee I like both. The Darcy character gives you the sense that the girl was totally wrong about him and just makes everything a little bit more funny. Plus, I like the tall, quiet, kind of awkward guys in story, it's cool. I think that weighs a bit over the Peeta from Hunger games nice-to-her-from-the-start kind of thing. I'm not so sure.... Fri, 09 Mar 2012 22:09:58 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=5#forum_thread_comment_1200503 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=5#forum_thread_comment_1200503 kayli12 I can't choose! I would usually choose the Mr. Darcy sort of character, but then you just HAD to throw Peeta in there! Sat, 24 Mar 2012 21:19:20 +0200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=6#forum_thread_comment_1235460 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=6#forum_thread_comment_1235460 Parmawen I think I am the only person on this earth who isn't head over heels in love with Darcy. I don't want a Darcy. I want a Tilney/Brandon/Knightley/Wentworth, ANYONE but Darcy. I know he changed. I really do, and I think he's an amazing person after the change. But he wasn't nice. And that's always the thing that sticks out to me. I can't really forgive him for some of the rude things he says at the beginning of the novel. I love that he changes, but I would never be able to truly fall in love with the man. The ones who stick out to me in any work of fiction are the Peetas. The sweet, nice guy that you can honestly see yourself spending the rest of your life with. Both in fiction and in real life, I prefer the nice ones. I couldn't see myself spending my entire life with Mr. Darcy. But I can see myself with the guys who have always been amazing and sweet from the very beginning. Thu, 29 Mar 2012 19:17:42 +0300 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=6#forum_thread_comment_1246398 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=6#forum_thread_comment_1246398 hotsauce421 I loved Peeta. I like nice guys (sooo tired of the "girls fall for the bad boy" cliche) but not "nice guys," you know, the ones who think that their friendship means that the girl owes him a return on his romantic feelings or sex. I love Peeta (I mean, LOVE). He never tried to manipulate Katniss into a relationship, but it was always about her well-being. He never (that I recall) got jealous of Gale or tried to pressure Katniss into "choosing" him. I think that's one of the best examples of unrequited love (though, of course, it WASN'T unrequited, Katniss just had to realize how she felt about him) I've read, better than the stories where the best friend is in love with the female protag and everyone knows it except for the protag and she's portrayed as horrible for not noticing or not returning his feelings for so long. "Friendzoning" pisses me off. You don't become friends with someone because you think you might get sex out of it--that isn't a friend at all. Or a nice guy. Sat, 05 May 2012 20:46:43 +0300 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=6#forum_thread_comment_1344801 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=6#forum_thread_comment_1344801 tnb494 the always there for you guy Thu, 24 May 2012 02:18:54 +0300 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=6#forum_thread_comment_1393926 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=6#forum_thread_comment_1393926 H So, either the tsundere or the nice guy... I wouldn't fall for either. Fri, 25 May 2012 02:53:02 +0300 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=6#forum_thread_comment_1397080 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/the-polling-booth/threads/15394?page=6#forum_thread_comment_1397080