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Who thinks that Twilight ruined vampires?

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water2770
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Honestly i've been finding vampire books left and right and think that this is just because a lot of fantasy writers are just jumping onto the vampire/undead popularity train to get a quick buck. So then who hates Twilight for ruining vampires (you can like the books, but hate that it flooded bookstores with vampires), and who thinks that twilight didn't flood bookstores with vampires.

Extra Credit question: What's the vampire book you hate the most?

Lady_Indis_Dress
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I've never been into vampires, and knowing the origin of the myth I have to say they were probably "ruined" long before Twilight came out. However, the series did sink the whole thing to new lows. And I am tired of seeing vampire this and vampire that everywhere.

I'll go ahead and choose the Twilight series as worst just for the ridiculous effect it's had on our society.

fumbleweeds
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This is pretty much how I feel. I never gave much of a crap about them. But now the very idea of vampires, at least in our culture, is tainted with the ridiculousness of Twilight. Some people bemoan her particular vampire mythos (which tbh I thought was just fine, diamond-skin excepted) but really it was the story and characters that have tainted the idea of vampires.

I wouldn't say they're "ruined" as much as given a whole new stupid reputation. Just because something is popular doesn't mean it's ruined. Heck, nobody will shut up about zombies and all the zombie fans don't seem to mind.

RobertLent
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I don't think that Twilight ruined vampires, it simply continued down the path that vampires have been on for some time. The trend has been to portray vampires as angst-ridden people who just happen to kill people and drink their blood, but then only with great reluctance.

At one time, that was a fresh idea. But every fresh new idea tends to get stale and cliché after a time. Sometimes you have to move back to go forward. With the glut of angsty vampires, an old fashioned monstrous vampire would now be seen as something fresh.

Rissa.
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I love Twilight to pieces. I can never get enough of the characters' constant arguments with each other (i.e, Jacob and Bella). There is only one thing about the series that get me terribly annoyed: Bella. I just despise her character. It's just so...unhappy. It's actually unnatural, which I hate.

So sure, I might eventually give up Twilight, but it will never because the vampires are "ruined". I may not like the fact that they sparkle instead of burn, but I'll never hate that. And I really can't blame Stephenie Meyer for making them do so. It's certainly quite different. It makes her seem like she's thinking outside of the box.

XVisiEX
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I feel like it sunk it to a whole new level of bleh as someone pointed out. No pun intended


I loved the idea of Vampires being cold, blood thirsty monsters because it is their nature. I don't mind a few emotions (I'm still battling the issue of "half breeds" might just add ramifications to that and trying to decide if I should be for or against sex when it comes to them in a fantasy novel.) Twilight seriously has made me paranoid towards Vampires.

I am gonna go with Twilight, mainly because I have personal experience being attacked physically over that god awful book..........and that alone...would have been enough to make me pissed off about it -_- I draw the line at making them fairies with fangs basically. Sure, it makes it "endearing" to some that they wanna be vegans but let's be honest here.


Would we ask a LION to go on a veggie diet forever? NO! Cause lions eat meat! So why are the blood suckers viewed as the bad guys? Edward and Bella have to be the most miserable emotional sucking couple on the face of the earth. It was high school musical with fangs =/


Made me upset....my first vampire introduction was van helsing so maybe that contributed to it

lil87blue
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I think twilight brought them into the open. I don't think it ruined them. as a fan I really think that the series is meant for a younger audience. That is why most adults are reluctant to view the vampires of twilight as true vampires. Sure, they are kind of the soft version, but I wouldn't want my twelve year old brother reading anything like I write. (I have a vampire series of my own)

Twilight is for younger readers who want to get into the world of vampires. It's also for those people out there who will pick up just about any book that has to do with vampires, just because they want to campare it with others they have read.

Twilight has probably helped authors who wrote vampire books before it came out, just because twilight made people want to read other vampire books, so older series were revisited by fans who crave more. Twilight is a gateway series, if you will. Personally, I started out on Anne Rice, but after reading hers I took time away from the world where vampires exist and twilight brought me back.

Christina Huling
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I've never read Twilight, but I have to say, it's caused my favorite bookstore to be flooded with a lot of "teen paranormal romance," most of which is mediocre at best. And it's shoved all my favorite books to harder places to find.

My anti-answer to the extra credit: the best vampire novels ever are by Amelia Atwater-Rhodes: In the Forests of the Night, Demon in My View, Shattered Mirror, Midnight Predator, and All Just Glass.

Thanatophobia
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I'd say that Twilight did ruin vampires. As to which vampire novel I hate most... Twilight xD Just because it ruined vampires, otherwise I wouldn't really care.

brandnewriot3
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I don't know about it "ruining" vampires, as I've never really read many vampire books, but I hate that ever since Twilight, most of the teen fiction books are now about some boring teenage girl who falls in love with a vampire/ghost/angel etc etc. It's like, enough already.

Lydia_Ember
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I have read the first book, I hate the first book, but I don't think it ruined vampires. Here me out!

I think we can all agree that this is a fad. You know, take something dangerous and make it into a sappy "love" story. I'm still trying to figure out why the most popular girl in school opts to throw her life away, but I digress.

Years from now, I'm sure that it'll either 1. fade away, 2. made mandatory so future writers know what Not to do in a novel, or 3. its fan base will shrink so much that vampires can return to what they are: killers.

I'm not saying you can't make a story with vampires into a drama, or even a love story. I'm just saying you have to remember that lots of people will get hurt if a Vampire's in town, and don't glorify that.

booksntea

I think you're spot on. Yes, it's kind of silly that vampires sparkle. Yes, it's really annoying that vampire books are flooding the YA market, but it will eventually run it's course. Trends don't stick around forever. So, I agree with #3, I think it's fan base will shrink over time, and vampires will return to blood suckers who suffer from Porphyria. Although, from what I gathered, that's an adaptation from the original vampire myth? And yet, most people don't complain about that, amiright? The sparkling kind get a bad wrap because so many people hate Twilight.

fuzz
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Eh, Twilight's just one of those things that got massively blown out of proportion for no reason. It can't really ruin anything for you unless you let it, though. If you liked vampires before Twilight, then just read the books with more traditional vampires. If you don't like the paranormal romance in your bookstore, then no one is going to make you buy it.

I don't see anything wrong with writing for the market. Publishing is, after all, a business. If you manage to earn money, then good for you. I don't get why everyone loves to bash Stephanie Meyer. Whether it's good or not, she sold a book that became massively popular and got made into five movies.

XVisiEX
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fuzz wrote:
Eh, Twilight's just one of those things that got massively blown out of proportion for no reason. It can't really ruin anything for you unless you let it, though. If you liked vampires before Twilight, then just read the books with more traditional vampires. If you don't like the paranormal romance in your bookstore, then no one is going to make you buy it.

I don't see anything wrong with writing for the market. Publishing is, after all, a business. If you manage to earn money, then good for you. I don't get why everyone loves to bash Stephanie Meyer. Whether it's good or not, she sold a book that became massively popular and got made into five movies.


........I don't understand that last statement? So, just because something terrible is sold to the masses it means we should what? Not talk about the woman? That's like saying Justin Beiber and Frank Sinatra belong in the same category because Justin sells millions every year. Justin......while I do not hate him...will NEVER be Sinatra, ever. And anyone who compares his talent to his will get the crazy judgmental eyes look from me.

water2770
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fuzz wrote:
Eh, Twilight's just one of those things that got massively blown out of proportion for no reason. It can't really ruin anything for you unless you let it, though. If you liked vampires before Twilight, then just read the books with more traditional vampires. If you don't like the paranormal romance in your bookstore, then no one is going to make you buy it.

I don't see anything wrong with writing for the market. Publishing is, after all, a business. If you manage to earn money, then good for you. I don't get why everyone loves to bash Stephanie Meyer. Whether it's good or not, she sold a book that became massively popular and got made into five movies.


About the whole it wont ruin anything for you unless you let it, what if most-all writers only write vampire and were-wolf fantasy and your left with a giant heap of generally sub-average books (in the creative department at least) to choose from if you want a new fantasy book... part of the reason I got into manga and Twilight is there as well.

Darkfeather21
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Wait... Twilight was about vampires? I thought it was about fairies!

Writing_Ninja
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I think Twilight is more poorly unrealistic writing than anything. I thought it was a clever idea. A girl falls in love with a vampire. I don't have problems with that. It just wasn't done too well for my tastes. If you read the book with a realistic view, it's actually pretty creepy. Edward is creepy, controlling, and a stalker. No one will have a good relationship with a person like that.
Then the angst got to me after a while. Then again I am coming from a perspective of going through bad health issues and losing a lot of people close to me to death in my short life.
I think it would have done well if it was written better. I don't think it ruined vampires. Although it has affected society. It amazes how there is a huge married woman fan base for that series. Twilight is full of unhealthy ways of dealing with situations. I think it only feeds it more with the idea that love and marriage can happen among the angst like that. If the relationship lasts, it'll be a very hard one.
But again, that might be coming from a perspective of a person who wants a little more maturity in how people act. I don't have patience for people who makes themselves victims and whine when it doesn't work right.

Earthsick
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First of all, I never was into vampires in the first place anyway since most people tend to make them super gorgeous or with superpowers and no weaknesses except for the sun anyway. So for me personally, Twilight just added to the "I don't like vampires" blues-thing.
The only vampires I kind of liked were the ones in the watch series by Sergej Lukianenko in which the vampires are not special at all, they are just there, like all the other magical beings. Only that they could only get more powerful by feeding on human blood which was limited for them since they had to get some kind of licence for each of their victims which was rare anyway. So yeah, there were only a few powerful vampires in the series, I think 3 or maybe 4, so that were tolerable vampires.
I like the concept of the vampire being a murderer or a beast more than them being so fabulous.

aaalllyyysssaaaaa
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I never read/watched anything about vampires until twilight... except the count... So they did ruin vampires for me, honestly.

LilyLariaLaton
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I haven't read or seen Twilight, but I would say they ruined it just by the amount of vampire stories out there now, you can't walk into a bookstore without being surrounded by it!

Darkfeather21
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Wait a minute. Twilight was about vampires!?!?!? I thought it was about fae! Myers needs to get her races straight.

Spuggey
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I was never into vampires either. I certainly could never get my head around the idea that they'd sexy... :S
But anyway, I do agree that sometimes a successful franchise can cause a raft of poor quality copycats (to be honest, in this case, I think the twilight series is not great to begin with. I'm not a 12 year old girl, but even when I was I wouldn't have been enamoured with such books).

It's annoying when people all feel the need to write something similar in the hope of catching some of the hype, and the obsession with vampires lately is just another phase. I don't mind daft action/horror films featuring them (not really something I'd read) to waste two hours on a rainy Sunday, but I have seen the first twilight film as a dare and... yeah... next time I'll do something more enjoyable, like watching socks spinning in the washing machine. The film was buttock clenchingly bad.

But each to their own, I suppose. Some people love it...

Steampunk avi8or
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The film was buttock clenchingly bad.


The makers of the movie didn't know they were going to have a hit on their hands so they got a low budget and used a couple of the worst actors out there. Then Twilight got to be popular and they couldn't change the actors now so they had to stick with Perma-Scowl Girl and Constipated Boy. Not to mention Edward is pretty much the Mary-Sue-est character I've ever seen in my life.

JenWales
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I was a teen vampire addict. I'm 23 now and I read vampire before they became popular. Nobody read them when I was a teen!
I am annoyed that the only vampire books you can find now are stupid paranormal romances, people have stopped writinf decent vampires, they just copy everyone else
Buffy and Angel were before Bella and Edward and the vampire diaries was before BUFFY.

I love vampires and hope if I ever get around to publishing my own it will not suffer for this. I think true blood could be the worst for me, the writing is terrible really. But I will read it again so I might have to contradict that.

I want to read a vampire book which is original and written with atmosphere along the style of Carlos Ruiz Zafon or Elizabeth Kostova or even James Herbert.

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