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4thAce
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So I'm wondering how far up the list Northeast NJ did in 2011. Was there an official ranking released when it was all over? I think towards the end our neighbors in Central Jersey was edging us out in total number of words, but maybe we can beat them this year.

Rich

hillarydepiano
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Rich,

I actually spent quite a while digging around trying to find that info and, if it exists, I sure as heck can't find it. I read something about how the region vs region word war feature is broken and I wonder if it is tied to that.

But I thank you for reminding me about this. I'm going to put out a message through my official ML channels and see if I can get some kind of definitive answer for both last year and this year's stats. I'll update this as soon as I hear back.

I strongly suspect this info exists on the back end, they just forgot to make it visible to the average person.

4thAce
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I would guess it had something to do with the way the website was overhauled wholesale last year. At least we don't have to do that again.

Rich

hillarydepiano
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I have good news on this. The data exists and they should be emailing me the spreadsheet for last year's data soon.

They also promise that the word count standings for 2012 will be back on the website this year so we'll be able to track our progress as the month goes on.

BLynchBooks
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And we'll be able to lord it over Central Jersey, yes? :D

artf0
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Hey Brian,

We miss you in Philly but glad you are in a great region!

BLynchBooks
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I miss you guys too! I'm glad that you brought on Andrew as an ML, and that you've got so many events going on!

Don't think I'll go easy on you guys for our little word-rumble on the 14th, though. :P

hillarydepiano
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No! No mercy! Make them weep at the mere sight of our word counts!

MWHAHAHAHA!

artf0
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I may have to fire up my speech recognition cause God knows I can't out type HIllary...Andrew did a Great workshop for us. I'm glad I brought him on board too.

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hillarydepiano
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I tried to use voice to text in chat a few years ago and it was too risky. One wrong word and it shuts the whole browser and I have to re-log in and it becomes a big production.

But, never fear, even though I can't use voice to text for our online write-ins, I still type like a speed demon! ;-)

artf0
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Oh I know...I know...I remember the beatings....ouch...ouch...ouch...

hillarydepiano
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Sadly, Central Jersey kicked out butts last year, though we were still in the Top 50. Here are the Top 50 from 2011 with the total words for the region:

1 USA :: Washington :: Seattle 53,559,637
2 Europe :: Germany 48,533,230
3 Europe :: England :: London 45,148,022
4 USA :: California :: Los Angeles 44,669,314
5 USA :: Maryland 43,901,527
6 USA :: New York :: New York City 36,104,595
7 USA :: Illinois :: Chicago 35,831,177
8 Europe :: Holland & Belgium 34,478,434
9 USA :: Minnesota :: Twin Cities 33,310,524
10 Canada :: Ontario :: Toronto 31,456,068
11 USA :: Colorado :: Denver 29,264,430
12 USA :: Oregon :: Portland 29,194,356
13 USA :: Texas :: Dallas/Ft. Worth 26,543,690
14 USA :: Massachusetts :: Boston 25,151,710
15 USA :: Georgia :: Atlanta 23,694,453
16 USA :: Virginia :: Northern 23,513,520
17 USA :: California :: East Bay 23,067,244
18 Europe :: Finland 22,565,580
19 USA :: Texas :: Austin 21,845,630
20 Canada :: British Columbia :: Vancouver 21,747,856
21 USA :: Texas :: Houston 21,188,825
22 USA :: Utah :: Salt Lake City 21,178,168
23 USA :: California :: San Francisco 20,838,966
24 Australia :: Melbourne 20,589,204
25 USA :: California :: Sacramento 20,536,604
26 Europe :: England :: Yorkshire 20,155,950
27 Africa :: Elsewhere in Africa 19,599,314
28 Europe :: France 18,995,442
29 USA :: Arizona :: Phoenix 17,175,163
30 Europe :: Sweden 17,122,702
31 USA :: Maine 16,992,043
32 USA :: Missouri :: St. Louis 16,947,178
33 USA :: Pennsylvania :: Philadelphia 16,863,703
34 USA :: Pennsylvania :: Pittsburgh 16,835,996
35 Australia :: Sydney 16,682,007
36 USA :: Michigan :: Detroit 16,534,436
37 USA :: North Carolina :: Raleigh-Durham 16,450,621
38 Europe :: England :: Birmingham-West Midlands 15,927,125
39 Europe :: England :: Elsewhere in England 15,772,149
40 USA :: New Jersey :: Central 15,244,235
41 USA :: New Hampshire 15,098,694
42 USA :: Ohio :: Columbus 14,545,524
43 Canada :: Ontario :: Ottawa 14,447,791
44 Canada :: Alberta :: Edmonton 13,118,068
45 Canada :: Alberta :: Calgary 12,917,472
46 USA :: New Jersey :: Northeast 12,817,661 <------- Us
47 USA :: Missouri :: Kansas City 12,747,684
48 USA :: California :: San Diego 12,606,032
49 USA :: California :: South Bay 12,548,995
50 USA :: District of Columbia 12,347,528

While we've slipped in rank a bit, you'll notice that we're right up there with some very big cities and, in some cases, entire countries. The fact that we are as high as we are is pretty amazing when you consider that we're just one tiny little section of NJ.

That said... I really want to beat Central this year and see if we can at least break the top 40...

hillarydepiano
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If anyone's curious, Central was exactly 2,426,574 words more than us. They also, according to NaNo records, have just under 400 more active members than us, though we've got more registered and homed to us overall. All the more reason to nag friends and neighbors to join us (or, if they joined in the past, be active again) this year to help us out!

4thAce
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So in all of last year we ended up just under 13M words, while now we're already over 17M and are still fighting to advance beyond number 59? This NaNoWriMo thing must really be getting popular, I'd say.

EDIT: And now the numbers are all different, putting us under 10M. Who knows what to believe any more?

Rich

snowflakie06
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Something is definitely up with the stats.

This is where we're supposedly at right now (9:30AM in case it changes again) :

61 USA :: New Jersey :: Northeast 9315744 12743.84 $625.00


And this is where I posted we were at about a week ago:

56 USA :: New Jersey :: Northeast 13849482 13189 $1,010.00


What happened to all those words and the approximately $400 now missing in donations?

hillarydepiano
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They sent out an email (and maybe it was just to MLs) that there was an issue with the Donation Derby numbers so they needed to fix and readjust the standings. This was about a week ago so that's likely what you are seeing.

But the numbers up there now are supposed to be the correct ones.

hillarydepiano
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Another thing I just realized. They may have changed how "homing" works. I think now your words only count for your home region instead of every region you belong to. I could be wrong but I believe this is why some of the word counts went down.

hillarydepiano
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Since I have this data, I decided to pull up another report. This one is a little more depressing.

What you're about to see is the average words per active participant in each region (since none of us were in the top 50, I just pulled it for all the NJ regions) and then where that puts them in the ranking of all regions overall.

USA :: New Jersey :: Elsewhere in New Jersey 26,383 #173
USA :: New Jersey :: Central 26,103 #188
USA :: New Jersey :: Northwest 23,365 #363
USA :: New Jersey :: South 21,108 #483
USA :: New Jersey :: Northeast 20,774 #501 <----Us

So while our total word count for last year was high, we're only averaging 20,774 words a person. That's not so hot compared to Central's 26k (at least their average is over half the 50k) and definitely not so hot when you look at the fact
that our average # of words per person puts us 501st out of all regions, the lowest of all the NJ areas.

The final ouch about our rank being 501... there are only 574 regions included in these stats.

That said, the smaller regions have an advantage on this stat. A region with 4 people where everyone wins is going to have a much higher average than an area with thousands of people where only some win. But Central is very close to us in size and their average is so much higher... we can do better.

This really gives us something to work towards this year. Encourage each other to finish and even if you realize 50k is beyond your grasp, at least push yourself to reach 25k to help the average. As for people who do pass 50k, you can also help our average out by writing more than 50k if possible since that will pull everyone's average up.

Lastly, these stats aren't perfect. There are many people homed to multiple regions and we share many members with Northwest and Central so some of you are counted multiple times. It's just fun to take a look at where we stand and to have something to work towards this year.

4thAce
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By my calculations if everyone in our region had won last year instead, our total would have topped 30 million. We would have zoomed up to 11th place or better with no increase in wrimos. Wouldn't that have been something?

Rich

hillarydepiano
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It would be great. I forget the actual number, but there's actually only a relatively small percentage of participants that win each year so anytime that number goes up a little, it's a win for everyone I think. :-)

Sharon.NJ
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I had no idea I could be in multiple regions - I now joined Northeast, but I am currently homed to Elsewhere. I physically live in Central New Jersey, but I virtually moved ... because I try to eliminate excess drama (got foster cats and rescue cat ladies filling those big basketball shoes - no more room left because I have to keep pinky-toe space cleared for my low-key teenager) Anyway, we don't need that, we're here to write like the wind.

As an interesting sidenote, when I joined Northeast, all Hillary's ML messages popped up in my NaNo mail welcoming me.

I see that Elsewhere is sitting beneath my personal stat graph - so maybe I'm only counted there as home? If Northeast is close late in November, I could always rehome to Northeast, if my word count is strong ... for a few more of those magical home-made Oreos.

At the moment, all I have is plans though - no word count. And I know i'm starting weak because I'm working both jobs on the 1st, that's in the 14 hour range :^(

If I'm really feeling contrary, I may home to Finland in their eternal war against their archenemies, Sacramento CA!

hillarydepiano
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There is actually at least one guy in our area that I know of that actually lives in CA... he just likes my pep talks and coming to our chats. There's also a gentleman in the UK who frequents our chats, randomly. I say, anyone is welcome! :-)

The fact that you can join more than one region is definitely not clear. I'm going to try to write a tutorial up on that before the month gets started because several people have asked me about it. I actually am a member of every single NJ region so I am at once the enemy.. and the leader of the resistance. ;-)

Seriously, though, those homemade oreos were freaking good...

xx7deadlysins
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Awesome stat report. Nothing gets me going like a dose of competition! :D

hillarydepiano
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I feel the same way! :-) It just makes it more fun for me to feel like I've got something to shoot for!

KatietheWriter
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As the baker of said oreos, thanks!! It's interesting to see these stats. I fully plan on winning this year, and I didn't write last year, so I plan on upping our totals for sure. :) I'm also really good at being a cheerleader, so hopefully I can cheer people on.

hillarydepiano
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We lost this feature last year so I'm very excited to see it back. Live Stats for 2012!

http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/word_count_scoreboard

You can see where we currently fall on the leaderboard for all of NaNo or change the sort at the top to see how our average words per participant is doing. (The list is long so I recommend using the browser's Find feature to locate us quickly.)

I'm really glad they gave us this back, it really gives us an idea of how much work we need to do to rise int the rankings!

4thAce
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And here's the graphical version for the Garden State. Don't ask me why the numbers aren't the same as the big tabulation.


Watch this space as the month goes on!
Rich

hillarydepiano
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You can actually put all of those into one widget if you use the region war one.

Once we get closer, I'll see who is our closest rivals and do a comparison between them.

_Lissa_
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that's so cool! thanks for posting that!

KatietheWriter
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I was just curious about how we were doing, and checked the stats from that link that Hillary posted above. We're 57th in regional standings. Not bad, right? But CENTRAL Jersey's beating us by three spots! Rawr! Who wants to go on a word binge just to beat them?! South Jersey's not quite as close, but they're beating us in Average Words Per Person, same with NWNJ. And Philly's whoopin' our butts.

The stats as of 8:15pm
29 USA :: Pennsylvania :: Philadelphia 21,393,446 14,111
54 USA :: New Jersey :: Central 13,101,708 14,272
57 USA :: New Jersey :: Northeast 12,528,668 12,116
119 USA :: New Jersey :: South 8,298,494 13,089
304 USA :: New Jersey :: Northwest 3,260,596 14,054
454 USA :: New Jersey :: Elsewhere 1,382,292 11,330

So close!! Keep up the great work, guys!

hillarydepiano
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We were talking about this at Saturday's write-in. We were sort of deludedly hoping that once the 20+ ish of us updated our word counts, it would make a difference. It did not.

Though I'm sure it will help at least a little when I actually get to start NaNo and I actually have a normal word count. :-)

snowflakie06
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We're just one spot behind Central right now! :D

55 USA :: New Jersey :: Central 14375200 15591 $1,395.00
56 USA :: New Jersey :: Northeast 13849482 13189 $1,010.00

hillarydepiano
51174 words so far Winner!

AW YEAH!!!!

KatietheWriter
50637 words so far Winner!

Hooray!! Yesterday when I looked, we were at 59th!! Go us!!!! I'm totally going to keep writing, since the story still isn't done. Keep up the great work!

Sharon.NJ
261998 words so far Winner!

/fistbump Rehomed to Northeast

4thAce
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The thing I don't get is how they decide what's a region. If all of New Jersey were one region the way Maryland is all one region, we'd have a total of something like 44M words on the big scoreboard and would be up near the top ten. Instead they have us split five ways and we're busting our butts to crack the top fifty.

I'm not really complaining here, for reals, just trying to understand. Why are some countries all one region while others are separated into geographic areas and cities? I am guessing it's something about the ML recruiting dynamic the rest of us don't see.

Rich

snowflakie06
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I've been wondering the same. Maybe population and/or geographical size?

hillarydepiano
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The short answer is it's based on a combination of need and volunteers. Our area, for instance, is larger than some areas that encompass an entire state or country so NaNo determined a need to split it out. But for some areas, though they may need to be split, if there's no willing local ML, they may have to stay one massive area.

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