Mormons http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872 larelmian Welcome, my brothers and sisters of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Here we join together on this adventure of creating something wonderful, for in the act of creation we emulate our Creator. This is one of the greatest sources of joy in our lives. Welcome to all! Tue, 11 Oct 2011 01:11:47 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_1836 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_1836 Swiftflame *Waves* :) I'm a rather unorthodox Mormon. I haven't wandered here before and I'm a little surprised to find this... But pleased! Tue, 11 Oct 2011 01:57:52 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_2343 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_2343 pianogirl101 Why hello again larelmian! It always seems to be a race which of us will get this posted first! lol. This year, like last, you beat me to the punch! :) I'm so excited about the new site and I love the new forums! I love it all! Can't wait for November and the rollicking madness of writing non-stop! :) And a welcome to swiftflame! Glad to see you here! :) Tue, 11 Oct 2011 09:28:12 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_6480 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_6480 larelmian I happened to be monkeying around at the computer last night when the forums reset. This wasn't even the first thread I started. Hi, pianogirl and Swiftflame. Last year, I got several notes asking if I was LDS. It came from the fact that I had a quote from President Uchtdorf in my sig. Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:37:11 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_7560 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_7560 goddess_evie I'm here too! Gotta say that NaNo made a huge difference in my life last year as I met two awesome NaNo-ers who then introduced me to a writing group especially for LDS women called American Night Writer's Society (ANWA, for short). Anybody else a member? Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:44:13 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_7672 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_7672 topsecret Hello, everybody! Nice to see you here, Swifty. Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:51:27 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_7790 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_7790 studentofrhythm Here I am again! Nice to see this group starting up so early. Tue, 11 Oct 2011 11:16:24 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_8190 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_8190 pianogirl101 goddess_evie - I had never heard of that before. I'll have to check it out. Thanks for sharing! And of course, welcome welcome! Hello again topsecret and student of rhythm! So good to see familiar faces on here once again! Hopefully we'll continue to see many more. By the way, my son is now 8 1/2 months old, can you believe it?! It's crazy! :) He's so adorable and such a handful! I'm hiring my little brother to come help watch him so I have writing time. Then I'll take a turn watching him so that my brother can write. He's doing the young writer's program. It's really exciting to have someone else in my family participating! :) Tue, 11 Oct 2011 11:31:33 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_8416 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_8416 wolfloverapril I can't remember if I posted here last year, but I too am also a Mormon and proud of it. I look forward to NaNoWriMo this year and am wanting to get to know others this year, especially if I still don't have a job to occupy my time. Tue, 11 Oct 2011 11:34:45 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_8471 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_8471 pianogirl101 Hello wolfoverapril! I hear you on the job. My husband and I decided that it's for the best, so even though we're really tight financially, I'm staying home with Gary (my sweet baby) and focusing on my writing. So, right now I'm still waiting to hear back from Deseret Book about my book. While I'm waiting, the book is available through CreateSpace. (website link is on my profile) I'm kind of going light on marketing it so that I can more easily remove it if Deseret Book does accept it for publication. But, I also don't want to count my chickens before they hatch, so I'm spreading the word locally and with my family. Tue, 11 Oct 2011 11:45:57 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_8657 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_8657 Swiftflame Hi, Topsecret! :) Well, it seems that I have somewhere new to check in on periodically. But I should really go get breakfast... Tue, 11 Oct 2011 12:29:15 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_9321 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_9321 Cammie Josephine This is my first year here. I am a Mormon too. It's great that there's a group here--I wasn't expecting that on this Website. Tue, 11 Oct 2011 13:06:28 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_9916 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_9916 lizzy12 Hey guys! I'm Liz. I'm a freshman at BYU-Idaho. My NaNo is really religious based so it'll be nice to perhaps share parents with you! Tue, 11 Oct 2011 13:27:11 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_10345 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_10345 pianogirl101 Cammie - It's amazing the unexpected places we crop up. ;) Liz - I think you meant share parts with you. Although, my parents are pretty awesome, I'd share them with people. :) It's so nice to have new faces! I'm really excited for this year and I'm hoping that I can rally some of my friends here into writing with me. It'd be nice to have a real support group along with my virtual one. (You guys are the best!) Anyway, hugs! I'm going to go have lunch and pretend to get some work done about the house. Tue, 11 Oct 2011 14:08:59 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_11081 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_11081 topsecret pianogirl - it doesn't feel like it was that long ago we were betting on when he'd appear! Tue, 11 Oct 2011 17:43:47 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_14979 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_14979 Enna-Isilee Hello. :) Tue, 11 Oct 2011 17:48:31 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_15085 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_15085 Enna-Isilee . Tue, 11 Oct 2011 17:48:43 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_15088 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_15088 Enna-Isilee Oops. Two posts. :/ Ignore! Tue, 11 Oct 2011 17:49:11 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_15098 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_15098 lizzy12 Thats exactly what I meant. Sorry! I was a bit distracted by my roommates! Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:43:33 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_17268 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_17268 topsecret Hi. Tue, 11 Oct 2011 22:00:07 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_20017 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_20017 fullhousegal2004 Hello! I'm so glad to see this here, I'm glad to see that there are some other members of the church on this website! Hello all! Tue, 11 Oct 2011 22:16:05 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_20336 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_20336 topsecret Glad you found us, fullhousegal. We usually get around to this topic sooner or later, so... Is anybody here planning to write something LDS themed? Usually any references in my stories are unplanned, but this year's story was actually inspired by a passage in the Book of Mormon. Ether 9:7-9. 7 And it came to pass that Akish began to be ajealous of his son, therefore he shut him up in prison, and kept him upon little or no food until he had suffered death. 8 And now the brother of him that suffered death, (and his name was Nimrah) was angry with his father because of that which his father had done unto his brother. 9 And it came to pass that Nimrah gathered together a small number of men, and fled out of the land, and came over and dwelt with Omer. Of course it's a pretty minor bit in the scriptures and I've changed details in the years since the idea first came to me, so I doubt anybody would notice the influence without me telling them. But I know it's there. Wed, 12 Oct 2011 01:06:23 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_22854 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_22854 MaccaGirl90 Hi all! I'm LDS, a bit cultural, in all honesty, but I am still in church every single Sunday and I keep up with the teachings and commandments of the church. Glad to see some others. :) Wed, 12 Oct 2011 01:46:29 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_23231 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_23231 fullhousegal2004 I don't think my book will be LDS themed however I'm not going to say that it's not or that it is, Because last year I said that it wasn't going to be and one of my characters was practically a member of the church with the beleifes and everything, she just hadn't been baptized. Wed, 12 Oct 2011 10:50:02 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_27660 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_27660 larelmian Speaking of LDS influences and inspirations, my knights live by a strict moral code -- which can be found in the "For the Strength of Youth" pamphlet. I've got one story where some men manage to get the guards passed out drunk in order to rescue the prisoners. Funniest story in the Book of Mormon -- not all that well known either. And this year's project, despite involving a cross-dressing spy, knights, a damsel in distress, and an evil sorcerer -- the real theme is family. Finally, the whole religion in my fantasy world is very much based on the Church. Not the history or the customs, but the basic tenants. After all, other worlds must have similar faiths, right? Wed, 12 Oct 2011 10:54:44 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_27709 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_27709 larelmian That sounds like an awesome bit of story there, topsecret. Wed, 12 Oct 2011 10:55:46 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_27725 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_27725 lizzy12 My book is sort of LDS themed. I'm doing a Memoir about my friends death and my grieving process. Its focus is on using the church to help me recover, the power of the priesthood and prayer. I'm trying to decide on the balance of sharing too much sacred things :) Liz Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:28:58 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_33329 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_33329 studentofrhythm I've adapted plots from the Book of Mormon before and it's fun. My serious novel that I've been working on for years is in a world with similar religions, maybe something like larelmian's, I don't know. This year, my main characters are either lapsed members of the Church or children of lapsed members. Thu, 13 Oct 2011 13:40:10 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_45682 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_45682 Ladypamela Hellooo, all! Just breezing in and out! Welcome to any new to the thread, and Hey to returning friends! I don't write LDS fiction; I like fantasy too much! I usually have LDS themes and standards for the most part. If they deviate there's a reason, and consequences. Happy planning! Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:42:25 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_49565 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_49565 pianogirl101 Obviously with writing a fairy-tale, my story isn't church based or anything. However, by nature of being a fairy-tale (and meant for young readers), the standards that we uphold will be a part of the story. My characters just won't be going to church. Welcome to all the other newbies on here! It's so wonderful to see you all here! @topsecret - You've got me! I need to know more! Can't wait till you start writing it! :) Thu, 13 Oct 2011 19:20:42 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_49987 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_49987 Ladypamela I love that story too! I have a plot semi-worked out around this story. It's tucked away somewhere in my files. That's cool that you're going to write this-- you go! Thu, 13 Oct 2011 20:13:44 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_50618 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_50618 fullhousegal2004 topsecrtet, that idea sounds really good! I'm intrested in reading it now! LOL Fri, 14 Oct 2011 07:19:14 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_55613 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_55613 pianogirl101 Good morning all! Hope you had a great night!. Today has been pretty nice, even if my sweet Gary did wake me up an hour before I wanted to be up. ;) I'm really excited about this weekend because my little brother is coming over after school and he has a half-day today so I'll get more time with him! He's also going to be doing NaNo so we'll do some planning and talking together today. Fri, 14 Oct 2011 10:07:04 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_56892 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_56892 topsecret How old is your little brother? Is he the one you used to tell fairy tales to? Fri, 14 Oct 2011 16:48:34 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_61470 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_61470 topsecret I'm getting worried that I won't be able to do it justice, but it really wants to be written now. Fri, 14 Oct 2011 16:49:20 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_61479 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_61479 fullhousegal2004 Don't you love it when prayers get answered? I've been worrying that I won't be able to buy a new laptop in time for Nano. Not the most pressing thing on my mind but I've been really looking forward to this years nano since this novel idea is one that I've been working on for several years. I just haven't gotten around to writing it. I did the math earlier this month and found if that although the buget would be really tight I'd be able to buy a new laptop and pay rent and all that. However I got a check in the mail from someone saying that they'd owed me money and there was the check paying me back. The check isn't huge, but it's enough money that I'll be able to pay for my computer without straining my buget as much. Random: my kitty thinks she's a lot bigger then she actually is. It's actually pretty funny. Fri, 14 Oct 2011 19:27:25 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_63271 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_63271 topsecret That's great for you. And now you've got me curious about what exactly your cat does to show her misconceptions about her size. Fri, 14 Oct 2011 20:25:40 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_63887 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_63887 afiremarshall Hi! I'm Amy. I have 7 kids and a deployed husband and I am our ward choir director so...yeah. Good luck to me! I'm glad I found this group! I have only done Nano a few times but I always fizzle out (for some strange reason!). I need support! I haven't decided on a story yet for this year. I have both LDS and non-LDS themed ideas. Fri, 14 Oct 2011 22:48:50 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_65501 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_65501 music-and-books What?!?!? We have a Group?!?! And it's been here before?!?!?! Well where have I been the past three years? Hello, mormon people of the NaNoverse! How goes it? To be honest, my novel isn't really LDS themed, but some of our ideas are sneakily written into it. But, then again, to be really honest, I'm not entirely sure what my novel is about, so I guess I can't say anything. afiremarshall - Don't worry, we'll make it through this year. 50,000 words or bust! (Seriously though. I get extra credit in one of my classes for finishing, so... loosing is not an option this year.) Sat, 15 Oct 2011 03:27:06 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_67530 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_67530 fullhousegal2004 In regards to my cat: She was looking at the patio door and she could see her reflection. She kept meowing and hissing at it, trying to scare the cat away from the balcony door. She was so big and scary that the "cat" in the backyard didn't stand a chance. ;) I wish I'd gotten it on camera. It was hilarious. Sat, 15 Oct 2011 06:56:20 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_68210 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_68210 starblack Hi everyone. I'm not a Mormon but I have a question. I hope I don't seem impertinent but this seems like the best place to ask without causing too many problems. Why do Mormons advertise now? All over the commercial breaks on the channels I watch there are Mormon commercials where people describe their lives then follow it up at the end with "I'm a Mormon." Please feel free to not answer this question if it is rude or out of place but I am very curious about this. Sat, 15 Oct 2011 08:07:21 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_68522 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_68522 afiremarshall Starblack, that is a fine question. Advertising is not new to Mormons. This is just a different campaign. Here is an article that explains some of the "why" of this effort. http://newsroom.lds.org/article/mormon-media-campaign-expands-across-us-australia In the past, the adds always used the full name of the church, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. I think a lot of people don't make the connection between the church and the Mormon nickname and that is why the new adds seem to be out of the blue. Feel free to ask more questions! Sat, 15 Oct 2011 09:37:12 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_69102 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_69102 moonmomma Hi Starblack :) A lot of people don't personally know any Mormons or anything about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, and there are a lot of misconceptions and misinformation out there about us. The ad campaigns are to try to clear these up and let people know what our people and our church are really like and what we really believe. Sat, 15 Oct 2011 12:37:47 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_70784 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_70784 moonmomma Hi, I'm back! (wondering if anyone remembers me, heh) Lifelong member of the church, Activity Day Girls leader, my husband (we've been married 27 1/2 years) joined the church in 2006 and we were sealed with our two sons in 2007 :) On the subject of LDS fiction, I write fantasy, so the Church isn't in my stories. I like dark and angsty subjects, and tend to roam through a wide range of human experience and emotion in my stories, and my characters would not always make good members of the church (I feel like they're autonomous -- I don't create them, I discover them already fully-formed). But in the endings, things kind of settle to where everyone is happier living lives closer to the values that we uphold, and I also have some very LDS-oriented overarching themes in the background. So, I wouldn't necessarily want to encourage people to behave the way my characters do sometimes (and I think I show the consequences of doing those things), but I still hope they'll come away feeling uplifted and with some interesting things to think about. I'm thinking of something Brandon Sanderson said in an episode of his Writing Excuses podcast, which dealt with developing religions for your world. There's a Mormon character in Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card, and Brandon Sanderson said that really bothered him, to have the Church exist in a universe where it wasn't true. I thought that was a really interesting way to look at it. I thought that too, either it's true or it isn't, and if it isn't it can't exist. pianogirl, your baby is adorable! :D Sat, 15 Oct 2011 12:48:13 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_70900 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_70900 moonmomma oh, and as for my NaNo novel, it's Sailor Moon fanfiction. :P :D so, not LDS-themed. *way too old to be writing this stuff but I don't care :D * Sat, 15 Oct 2011 12:53:00 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_70957 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_70957 moonmomma this sounds amazing! I hope you have fun writing it. There are so many bits like that, where you read it and go, Wow, I wish I knew the full story there! Sat, 15 Oct 2011 12:56:06 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_70998 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_70998 larelmian But in "Ender's Game," Catholics exist, Jews exist, South Carolina exists, historical philosophers and tacticians exist. Did that bother him as well? It's set on Earth, just a futuristic Earth, so that never bothered me at all. In my fantasy world, which is absolutely not Earth, I don't have Mormons, as such, because the history is completely different, but you can find similarities in the doctrine. I don't go into a lot of details about religious rites, though. Sat, 15 Oct 2011 14:46:56 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_72327 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_72327 pianogirl101 Yep. He's now 11 years old (Gosh I feel ancient!!!) and is so super-excited that my first book is available on CreateSpace. He was even more excited when I gave him the family copy of the book and told him to read the dedication. (It's dedicated to him). He now thinks I'm the most awesome sister in the whole world. But don't tell my other sisters that. ;) Sat, 15 Oct 2011 16:36:20 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_73473 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_73473 pianogirl101 MoonMamma - Thanks! I think he's pretty much the most adorable baby in the world (and I'm really not biased at all). :) And congrats on your sealing (even if a few years late). That is so very awesome! :) Starblack - I won't repeat what you've been told except to add that this is absolutely a safe place to ask questions and feel free to pop in again should another question enter your mind. :) Afiremarshall - We're all in this together! I've always loved having this little support group to lean on! Especially when I start feeling a little frazzled. Together we can accomplish anything! Hope everyone has been enjoying there weekend. I enjoyed yesterday and now am continuing the clean-up process. lol. My little guy is teething and in so much pain. It just breaks my heart! Any mommy's out there have a good remedy? I've tried Tylenol (he hates the flavor so most of it ends up back in my face), but the lack of sleep is killing me! So anything that people can suggest would be most welcome! :) Sat, 15 Oct 2011 16:44:04 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_73563 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_73563 topsecret I remember you. Including religion in science fiction based on a future earth discovering really alien aliens does bring some difficulties. I'm not really sure how I'd reconcile them, personally. If the Church is still around after the discovery of sentient, non-humanoid lifeforms, I guess we just have to assume that there is some reasonable explanation of why we were formed in the Father's image and his other creations apparently weren't. I'm not coming up with anything myself, though. Sat, 15 Oct 2011 19:45:52 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_75641 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_75641 pianogirl101 Well, it seems we've all had a busy Sunday! :) Mine was pretty good. My little brother is spending a few days here with my hubby and I since he (my husband) has the next couple of days off from school. So it'll be a fun few days! :) How are your novel plans coming along? Sun, 16 Oct 2011 21:45:42 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_89863 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_89863 larelmian My plans are coming along nicely. I've got the climax pretty much figured out. It will be awesome. I also finally figured out how to fill in a plot hole from last year's novel. It will require eleven characters slaughtering one another, but I'm fine with killing characters to advance the plot. I don't know if I mentioned this here, but I have another niece (making this number 11). She's my oldest sister's fourth girl. :) Sun, 16 Oct 2011 21:52:32 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_89970 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_89970 firelily How did i not know there was a LDS thread before??? Wow i feel silly. Moving on, i would not say that my story is church theamed persay but it is most definantly influanced by the standerds of the church. Mostly i just thought i would drop by and say hi to all the awesome mormon nanoers Hi!. Sun, 16 Oct 2011 22:24:46 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_90374 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_90374 moonmomma hi topsecret! it's nice to be remembered :3 yeah, I found it kind of hard to reconcile the inclusion of any real-world religions in a book like that. Awesome book otherwise, though. I'd never read it until this summer. Our older son found a very young (4 weeks old) feral kitten that decided to adopt him (it walked right up to him in the parking lot of his apartment complex and meowed at him), but he was about to move to Florida for the summer. So we kept the kitten for the summer, and since he was so small he had to stay in a safe room (older son's room), away from our adult cats. So I spent a lot of time in that room for a month or so, taking care of the kitten and keeping him company, so I decided to read the copy of Ender's Game that was hanging around in there. Sun, 16 Oct 2011 23:52:53 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_91408 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_91408 moonmomma a new baby in the family is so much fun :D my parents had 6 grandsons before they finally got a granddaughter. The count now is 11 boys, 3 girls. Sun, 16 Oct 2011 23:56:31 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_91457 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_91457 moonmomma hi firelily :D Sun, 16 Oct 2011 23:56:50 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_91462 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_91462 moonmomma My novel's pretty well planned-out. I usually take Sunday off from writing, but today I went looking for a name for my Bad Guy and found a good one. I wanted the Japanese word for "nobody" (that's what he calls himself) and found it and the word works well as a name. We had a really good Sacrament meeting today. With chronic fatigue syndrome, it's really hard for me to stay for the whole block, so I soak up as much as I can at Sacrament meeting. I came home early today, spent some time catching up on the Sunday School reading and did some FamilySearch indexing and scrapbooking. Mon, 17 Oct 2011 00:04:24 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_91522 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_91522 moonmomma pianogirl: thanks for the congratulations :D I'm still pretty excited about it. It was a long wait, but definitely worth waiting and praying for. Mon, 17 Oct 2011 00:06:48 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_91546 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_91546 topsecret Hello. Mon, 17 Oct 2011 00:49:48 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_91906 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_91906 afiremarshall Well, I have been toying with the idea of an LDS themed story. I recently read "The Help" and I related to some of it because I grew up in the south. I am only one generation removed form that time period so some of the issues were still around even if the heat had died down. Anyway, I thought about what it was like growing up in this environment as a Latter-Day Saint. There were similarities. There is tension and isolation and fear and hatered. It is just exibited in different forms. In my expereince, books about Mormons or with Mormon characters seem to get us wrong. There is either a tone of skepicism or the characters are two dimensional. Sometimes it is just plain wrong! My hesitation is that I would want to write for a non-LDS audience. Would a book like this find an audience? WOuld even an LDS audience read it? What do you think? Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:18:51 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_94729 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_94729 studentofrhythm I know that plenty of non-Jews read Chaim Potok novels, so a book like that might attract non-LDS readers. I personally would be interested in a story like that. Sympathy with your third paragraph: recently I tried to read a book (I think it was called _The Magic Circle_) that had a Jack-Mormon character and it was kind of sweet that the author included him, but it was also silly the way she wrote him (then again, that was by no means the biggest problem with the book). Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:48:32 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_95002 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_95002 pianogirl101 Good morning everyone! My novel is fairly screaming at me to be written, as are the people who have read the first book and want answers. (I love leaving an audience hanging! Muahahahaha!) But, all in all things are going well. I need to make some invitations to send out for a Halloween party. (If any of you lived nearby I'd totally invite you too!) This year my sister and I decided on Top Chef - Just Desserts as our theme. Top Chef is one of our family's favorite shows. I got my little Gary his costume - It's a little romper with jack-o-lantern feet and a pumpkin hat. SOOOOOOOOOOOOO cute! :) I will take pictures and include one as my profile picture. I'm thinking I will be a fairy this year, if I can find a good way to make the wings. Any suggestions? Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:04:07 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_95180 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_95180 fullhousegal2004 pianogirl, I don't have any suggestions about your costume but I was wondering, where can I buy your novel? I remember reading the blurb about it and thinking it sounded really cool, now that I finally have a job I can afford to buy books. :D Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:10:57 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_95256 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_95256 jaguerns MORMONS! Woot! I'm LDS, living in Utah County, BYU alumna, mom to three littles, and this will be my EIGHTH NaNoWriMo (won all of 'em!). Oh, and I'm a cake decorator. I wrote a LDS YA romance a couple NaNos ago but didn't quite finish it. I still tinker with it every now and then but the thrill is gone, baby. However, I always have a LDS character in my books (except for that historical fiction from my first attempt because it was set before the Restoration), even if I don't state outright what their religion is - other LDS will pick up on lingo or clues. Anyone read Larry Correia? His Monster Hunters International series has a LDS character without shoving the doctrine down your throat. What I love about it is that he gives faith clout. Religion isn't just commandments and ceremony, but an actual power against evil. Anyway, that matches my personal feelings about faith. Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:20:28 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_95354 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_95354 Lady-of-Narnia Enna! Are you doing NaNoWriMo? (this is Diana) Mon, 17 Oct 2011 12:13:35 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_96580 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_96580 Lady-of-Narnia Oops! you're not the Enna I know -well, hello anyway! Mon, 17 Oct 2011 12:15:04 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_96600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_96600 pianogirl101 fullhousegal - The link to my book is in my profile. It's on CreateSpace at www.createspace.com/3635164 or you can find it on Amazon.com if you search Charming Academy. :) I hope that you'll enjoy it. I should hear back from Deseret Book in a couple of weeks and I am TERRIFIED!!! :) jaguerns - I haven't read his. That does sound like an interesting concept though. I like it! :) Oh and welcome in! lol :) Mon, 17 Oct 2011 14:46:03 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_98306 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_98306 aj chase back again. hello everyone i remember and hello to new peeps too. i write YA mostly. i don't write LDS themed books for the most part. though i have written LDS rom coms before. this year is definitely not though. it's a mystery novel about a girl with con artist parents using the skills they taught her to get answers and solve a mystery. Tue, 18 Oct 2011 01:32:53 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_106292 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_106292 studentofrhythm Hi aj! Your novel looks like a lot of fun. Tue, 18 Oct 2011 10:48:45 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_109385 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_109385 pianogirl101 aj - I think I'd need a few more details, but that sounds pretty interesting for a one sentence synopsis! :) Oh, and I think your picture is really cool-looking! :) Tue, 18 Oct 2011 11:15:59 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_109672 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_109672 aj chase isn't that awesome. i stole from the internet somewhere. i can't even remember where now. for those who asked here's my synop from my page. Tallulah "Talia" Jones is the product of a very twisted upbringing. Her professionally criminal parents have bestowed such important life lessons upon her as, 'the con is in the details' and 'a desperate chick and her money are soon parted. So know how to make people feel desperate.' Now her dad is in prison, her mom has become 'Mystic Madam Magdala', a boy who used to hold an important part in Talia's life, and heart, is back to haunt her, and her biology partner, pro chess player, son of Hollywood bigwig and all around total mystery, Harrison Poe thinks he's being hunted by a demon. Harrison thinks that he needs a psychic but Talia knows that what Harrison needs is someone who can see past the con into the truth of the weird events he's experiencing. Talia doesn't like getting involved in other people's problems, but it seems harmless to offer Harrison some comfort. Until someone ups the ante with murder. They need answers and Talia knows where her skills lie. In lying and making crap up. But instead of creating new personalities to get money, Talia is trying on new names and faces to get answers. Because as any good con artist can tell you, 'If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull.' Tue, 18 Oct 2011 13:58:59 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_111498 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_111498 starry_night That happens to me a lot. I haven't started any of my ideas, though. :) Great idea! Wed, 19 Oct 2011 07:57:25 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_123462 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_123462 rosepetal720 Also, everyone should have the opportunity to decide whether or not to join the church, but they can't do that if they don't know the church exists. Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:29:37 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_125118 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_125118 rosepetal720 I've also been unhappy with LDS-themed art. I feel like LDS writers are too scared to do anything that isn't 100% clean, which shouldn't translate into 2-dimentional characters, but it does. I write historical fiction, and I was thinking recently it would be fun to write a historical fiction novel that takes place in Book of Mormon times. I was thinking about writing about the Anti-Nephi-Lehis. It's my favorite story. It would be the most violent book I've ever read, though. It wouldn't be for LDS audiences or non-LDS audiences; it would just... be. I would tell the story the way I think it happened, like I would with any other historical fiction (and of course I think the story is full of God-given miracles). I'm still not sure about it, though. Wed, 19 Oct 2011 12:26:18 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_126646 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_126646 rosepetal720 Hello, everyone! It's great to see old friends from last year as well as new faces. I'm an LDS member and I'm STOKED about Nano this year! I'm not happy about the forums though. No signatures, no buddies, no customizing forums, no editing posts, no searching forums, and no subscribing to posts! I've read that they're planning on fixing a lot of this, but they won't say when. I feel like a complete whiner, but I can't help it. Wed, 19 Oct 2011 12:31:26 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_126735 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_126735 larelmian They gutted the whole website. Meaning, they're still working on implementing features and getting all the bugs out. There's only so much they can do so fast. And at least the site hasn't crashed 50 times, like it did before. Be patient; we'll get all those features back. Wed, 19 Oct 2011 12:50:48 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_127038 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_127038 afiremarshall My mom is a convert and she said the hardest part of reading the Book of Mormon was getting past all the violence. I have always thought that if someone made an acurate movie it would easily be rated R and no Mormons would watch it! LOL!! In college, I tinkered with a musical of the Strippling Warriors. I hope I will get around to actually writting it someday! Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:10:20 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_129260 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_129260 MaccaGirl90 Good afternoon, one and all! Here I sit in Family Foundations wishing it was time to start writing. So very excited about tomorrow's kick-off party for those of us near Idaho Falls. Taking a fellow BYUI student with me and we're very excited! Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:16:49 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_129369 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_129369 pianogirl101 aj - Now that, I would pick up and read! :) Sounds like a great idea! I am so ready for November. I've got so many people here that are asking, "Are you writing yet?" "When will you be writing?" If I say November one more time, I might chuck a calendar at their head! :) jk. Hello again rose petal. I'm hoping they get everything running again soon. In the meantime I'll just try to be patient. :) Wed, 19 Oct 2011 16:24:09 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_130547 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_130547 aj chase thanks. let's hope agents feel the same way lol Wed, 19 Oct 2011 18:26:57 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_132236 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_132236 rosepetal720 That's true, the speed is marvelous. I'm sure I'll be grateful on November 1st when everyone's on the site at the same time! Wed, 19 Oct 2011 18:33:14 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_132331 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_132331 lyricmedlie My name is Medley and I'm an LDS. My story is not LDS themed at all--my main character is a pregnant teen--but I saw our beliefs slipping through my ideas. Like, I have this idea of the parents that adopt the baby in the end will bless her and be church members, etc. Anyway, this is so cool that we can all come together! Thu, 20 Oct 2011 01:50:28 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_138079 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_138079 seliza Hey, all! I was poking about and I just happened to stumble upon this here thread, and it made me smile. I'm Steph, or Seliza, and LDS, and currently living abroad in Japan. The members in Japan are such an inspiration, and so friendly despite the fact that my Japanese is poor. It's awesome. This'll be my seventh NaNo, and the first time I noticed this thread. My novel is also not especially LDS. In fact, it's a horror novel, which... is going to be an interesting change in the norm for me. It's my goal this year to really work on making villains that aren't two-dimensional. Villains that, like the evils in the world, really are to be feared, really can't be thwarted as easily as a bat of the eyelash and a little Power of Love. I want to write a story where the dark gets so thick and heavy you wonder how the characters can ever make it through, and then bring out that beaming light of hope in the end. I really don't know how my own beliefs will interplay with horror norms or what will come through in the end. I do know I have every intention of tightening in my daily scripture study to be able to hold onto the hope. Thu, 20 Oct 2011 08:18:17 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_140075 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_140075 pianogirl101 Good morning everyone! I'm just popping in before I clean my apartment. (It's amazing the mess a nearly 9 mo. old can make.) Seliza - Good luck with your story! Sounds like it could be interesting. I actually do enjoy reading some horror. I don't enjoy the gory horror, but give me a good psychological thriller and I'm hooked! I think the key to a good horror story (at least to my mind) is not dwelling so much on the physical aspects of fear as the mental ones. I think those turn out better. But, I wish you luck! :) Thu, 20 Oct 2011 08:52:13 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_140389 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_140389 moonmomma hi aj and rosepetal and lyricmedlie and seliza! I'm so excited to get started, I can hardly stand it. It's like a little kid on Christmas Eve - I can't even sleep! plus I have lots of ideas for other stories that I've been working on zooming through my head. I've started taking my brainstorming notebook to bed with me so I can write things down instead of laying awake all night thinking about them. This might sound kind of weird, but I really think that a lot of times, the stories we write are already out there, waiting for us to discover them, and the stories you're meant to write somehow find you. *insert Twilight Zone music* So I would just say, write the story that's coming to you, that you are meant to tell, and your ideals and values will come through one way or another. hope that makes some sense =P I'm having a bad morning with my chronic fatigue syndrome, I feel like I got run over by a steamroller and my head is all foggy. Thu, 20 Oct 2011 11:30:20 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_142051 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_142051 Genie007 Hello all! It's great to be here again! Ugh, this year I am SO far behind ... NO planning done, no snacks bought, no family members or loved ones WARNED of the upcoming madness ... Personal life has been getting in the way of my pre-launch phase! Thu, 20 Oct 2011 11:38:45 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_142159 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_142159 larelmian Hi, Genie. Still out in ol' BV? I think it's funny that you're worried about being behind eleven days before the writing begins. Still, it's good to have something of an idea in mind. Not that there aren't a million ideas out there. I'll never forget the assignment to go out two-by-two (we all snickered, except the one non-member classmate) and interview a random stranger. Last night, I worked on my antagonist's background. I even toyed with the idea of another prequel, but I don't think so. I want to give my characters different challenges, not recurring villains. Thu, 20 Oct 2011 13:33:32 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_143674 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_143674 Ladypamela Hey everyone! Without being able to subscribe to this post I haven't been in here for a few days. Welcome to all the new/returning LDS friends! Ok, off nano-topic but on-LDS topic: Have any of you seen the VT message this month? It's by Sister Beck called 'If we do not doubt.' It was so amazing. I can especially relate right now because I have not one but two of my own stripling warriors out in the mission field right now. Justin is almost done; he'll be home from San Diego at the end of January. Blake just left and he's in the Provo MTC (should have been the Brazil MTC but for visa issues). It's awesome! My own two sons out sharing the Gospel! Anyway, just wanted to share a mother's perspective of the message this month. Thanks for letting me share! Ok, back to NaNoWriMo!!! My planning is going ok. I'm glad we still have a few days left; I'm going to need every one of them to get ready! Last night I made my map of setting A. This morning, after I went VT, I've been working on my own phase-type outline trying to make sure I have enough plot/story to keep me going during November. My goal is to write the whole story, probably about 75k. Alright, I gotta get back to work! Thu, 20 Oct 2011 14:16:16 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_144331 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_144331 pianogirl101 moonmomma - Love the reference to Twilight Zone! I love that show! :) I also feel that way about writing. I tell people that when I'm writing, it feels more like reading a book for the first time, like the story was already there and I'm simply dictating. Genie - Hello again! :) LadyPamela - That's so awesome! My brother-in-law went out in December (less than a month before my son was born). He's in Uruguay. The oldest of my brother's went out on April 6 (what better birthday gift for the Savior?) and is in Iceland. He absolutely loves it! My own stripling warrior is going to be 9 months tomorrow so still has much to learn, but I'm looking forward to the journey. Thu, 20 Oct 2011 20:42:02 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_149974 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_149974 seliza Pianogirl--Oh, I'm with you one hundred ten percent on horror. The fears that will be haunting my characters will be so much more founded in emotion and thought than in any sort of gore. I hate how nine out of ten horror stories these days rely on fake blood. The things doing the haunting play on things like hidden secrets you don't want unveiled, the fear of being left alone forever, of being controlled by something else... That haunting feeling that you have done nothing to deserve this, and yet it follows you, everywhere you go. You don't need blood or guts or death to be terrified :-) moonmama--And I'm with you on that, too, with stories being out there. It's weird sometimes how alive characters feel to me. They feel like they are waiting for me to discover them to tell their stories. Totally twilight zone. LadyPamela--It is a good message! As a non-mother, a single twentysomething, a teacher of junior high students, I feel like right now I'm gathering the knowledge and wisdom and experience I need to be ready for my own stripling warriors, and at the same time when I look around at these students I'm surrounded by every day, I just want to protect and support and bring out the best in them, every little bit I can. I want to be like those mothers, a positive influence, wherever I can. I love this thread already... Fri, 21 Oct 2011 03:15:25 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_153815 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_153815 rosepetal720 Ooo, I like those themes. It's a horror book with meaning. I would totally read that. Fri, 21 Oct 2011 10:29:30 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_156474 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_156474 Ladypamela moonmama-- I hope you are feeling better today. I'm still trying to get going, myself. I am an early riser (5am) but sometimes it's hard to focus even when the kids go to school. Ah well! I agree with what you said about our stories being out there, we just have to find them and write them down. Thanks for your replies to my stripling warrior comment. Being a mom is great! You are just beginning your journey, pianogirl. Don't forget to enjoy the journey, it goes by quicker than you think! And I love your attitude, seliza! Gathering knowledge, awesome! Time to get to work, now. Have a great day, all! Fri, 21 Oct 2011 11:17:14 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_156967 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_156967 sarahrae Hi! I'm a first time NaNoer here and LDS. Currently in Houston TX, but I grew up in California, San Diego &amp; Bakersfield areas. I have two kids (2 &amp; 3, or at least, they'll be turning 2 &amp; 3 mid-November) and my husband is amazing (might be a little biased there). I am a stay-at-home mom, not that it means I'll have plenty of writing time, lol. I stopped writing once I had kids. Hoping NaNo is what I need to start again. Anyway, glad to see some LDS people here. Knew there were some, but it's nice to see a group of them. Thought I should say hello before NaNo starts. :-) A bit about my young adult novel: It's loosely based on Snow White, except instead of dwarves, she meets 7 thieves (whose personalities are loosely based on Disney's dwarves, very loosely based) and they end up rebelling against her stepmother (and ultimately her father) and how the Snow White character grows into her role as future queen. I'm excited. Been doing a lot of planning work and I'm just busting to start writing it (though I'm still hung up on the middle parts, so I guess I should figure that out before I get too far). No LDS themes, but LDS appropriate, I guess you could say. Fri, 21 Oct 2011 12:05:52 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_157495 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_157495 Genie007 Hahaaa, yes, I LOVE that assignment :) Yup, still out in the beev, and trying to graduate quickly. I'm officially ready to be DONE with school and move on to the next phase of my life! Fri, 21 Oct 2011 12:35:03 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_157864 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=3#forum_thread_comment_157864 moonmomma Hi! Yeah, I'd say having a 2-year-old and a 3-year-old is a full-time job, lol. It's good for you to carve out a little time to stay in touch with and develop your own talents. Your story sounds really cool. I like twists on fairy tales. Good luck this year! Fri, 21 Oct 2011 13:04:44 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_158242 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_158242 moonmomma arg, I wrote a big long comment, then I must have accidentally hit "cancel" Doing a little better today, thanks :) You should be so proud of those two boys of yours. How exciting! My oldest nephew just went out, he's in southern California. He has a rock band that was starting to experience some regional success, but he was willing to walk away from it for two years. (The band is continuing without him.) My older son went out a few years ago but had to be released early because of medical issues. That was really hard, but I'm still proud of him. The important thing is that they're willing to sacrifice and serve, and they're worthy to be called. Fri, 21 Oct 2011 13:10:46 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_158334 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_158334 pianogirl101 Good morning all! LadyPamela - I intend to enjoy every moment! :) Sarahrae - Welcome in! I hear you on the time thing. I just have one and he's a little handful! I can barely get through the household chores, let alone everything else! :) I also like your story concept. It sounds like a fun read! :) I'm redoing "The Frog Prince" as my NaNo story this year. I can't wait to get started on it! :) Don't worry about being a little hung up in the middle. Sometimes the best thing is to let the story tell itself. I've found that sometimes when I'm feeilng blocked, I need to stop trying to control the story and let it come the way it wants to. (Sounds crazy, I know!) Good luck with your writing! So my baby is now 9 mos. and has two teeth on the bottom! :D Super excited for that! He's been working on those teeth for six months now. They'd move for a few days, then stop and then start again. Now he's finally got two little teeth poking through the gums. They're not all the way up yet, but they're coming through! :) Fri, 21 Oct 2011 13:45:30 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_158739 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_158739 topsecret Hi to everybody who I haven't greeted yet. This week I haven't really said much outside the Plot Doctoring forum and two of the game threads. [quote]...when I look around at these students I'm surrounded by every day, I just want to protect and support and bring out the best in them, every little bit I can. I want to be like those mothers, a positive influence, wherever I can.[/quote] If I remember correctly, there's a bit about this in the message, too. I'll have to look it up later. And on the retelling fairy tales subject, I've had the idea floating around for a while about telling the story of miller's daughter's son if she hadn't learned Rumpelstiltskin's name... assuming he wasn't eaten or something. I've even put a little research into it but it still needs some more incubation time before I'm ready to do anything with it. Fri, 21 Oct 2011 15:43:57 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_160201 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_160201 aj chase my older two kept cutting the same teeth for months. they didn't actually come until they were 12 months old. both of them. my third had six teeth by the time she was five months old. weirdest thing. she's currently cutting her three year molars and she isn't even two. either that or she's getting another row of teeth, like a shark. Fri, 21 Oct 2011 17:36:28 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_161628 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_161628 pianogirl101 I was a late teether too. The only teeth that came at a somewhat normal age were my wisdom teeth. I didn't get my twelve-year molars until I was sixteen. I was fifteen when the dentist finally pulled the last of my baby teeth. It was almost a month after that the adult tooth finally came in. So I'm not at all surprised that of everyone I know with babies right now, mine was the last to get any teeth. Oh, and if she's getting shark teeth, you might want to be careful letting her swim. ;) Fri, 21 Oct 2011 18:11:44 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_162062 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_162062 aj chase my older two just don't seem to lose their teeth either. my boy needs braces. he's almost 11 and he hasn't lost but like maybe five teeth. i'm wondering when they're going to just pull them. my girl is almost 8 and she just lost her third tooth. so there's a definite correlation. all my teeth had to be pulled as well but i don't remember at what age. but apparently it also leads to relatively healthy teeth. so life is give and take Fri, 21 Oct 2011 21:38:30 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_164595 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_164595 moonmomma hi, topsecret! nice to meet you. That fairy tale idea sounds awesome, that's one of those stories that has the potential to go a lot deeper. Fri, 21 Oct 2011 23:55:48 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_166217 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_166217 Lehcarjt Hi Everyone! It's so wonderful to see familiar names / faces. I'm really excited to be back. I write Historical YA with romantic elements. My characters are not LDS and I try to keep them consistent with their time period - thus they drink tea and alcohol, the men smoke, etc. (although none of that is more than a mention here or there where it wouldn't make historical sense not to have it happen. I feel like there is a line between portraying reality and promoting negative lifestyle choices.) In truth, I pretty much loathe LDS art (books, music, and paintings). I saw a quote somewhere recently about how art must have the dark in order to bring out the light. I always end up feeling like LDS art avoids the dark and thus, for me, has no depth. I'm a pretty liberal member of the church, although I try to keep quiet about it as I can make people feel uncomfortable. I'm an Activity Day Leader and the chair of the ward Christmas party (It's going to be the BEST party we've ever had.) And of course, I'm thrilled to be here again! Rachel Sat, 22 Oct 2011 16:37:43 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_174142 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_174142 larelmian I got a new calling in church today. I'm no longer in Primary, where I've been for about three years. I'm going to help with the music in Relief Society. Sun, 23 Oct 2011 16:15:52 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_187207 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_187207 topsecret Conducting or playing? Do you miss your kids yet? We had stake conference today, the broadcast from the Conference Center kind. And I feel like I should have something more to say about that but really don't. Sun, 23 Oct 2011 17:14:26 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_188045 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_188045 aj chase haha i wish i was no longer in primary. my deep dark mormon secret is i hate primary. actually it isn't much of a secret. whenever the people have me fill out those 'new to the ward' slips i always just plain out say i don't want to be in primary. lol guess where i always end up. Sun, 23 Oct 2011 19:01:26 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_189620 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_189620 pianogirl101 aj - I don't hate primary per se, but I sure wish I could do something different. I've been in Primary for the better part of 8 years. (Brief stint while in singles but being in their Relief Society sure felt like Primary sometimes! but my mother-in-law was there for 15. So I won;t complain too loudly. :) Sun, 23 Oct 2011 19:31:28 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_190027 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_190027 larelmian I'll be conducting, but my mom's trying to talk me into learning to play the piano. Well, I do already have the fingering for it. At the same time, novel writing is already a time-consuming project. I'll have to think about that one. Sun, 23 Oct 2011 19:53:41 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_190335 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_190335 aj chase my bff is like that. in primary forever. she loves it though. she was called as primary president when she was 24. 0_0 Sun, 23 Oct 2011 22:49:32 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_192827 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_192827 pianogirl101 larelmian - Good luck! aj - I don't think I want to be in any kind of presidency! lol. I'm happy just being a teacher. Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:33:16 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_198848 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_198848 studentofrhythm I share your attitude, Rachel. And yes, it usually makes things smoother for us liberals to keep quiet. I made some comments in Priesthood meeting yesterday about the need to read scriptures critically so as not to avoid confusing chronicle, opinion (or - I didn't say this - biased or uninformed report) with direct revelation. From the looks I saw on some faces I couldn't help wonder if my days as Sunday School President might be numbered . . . ok, let's not be paranoid. Anyway, even though it's smoother to keep a low profile, sometimes it's really hard to keep quiet. Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:54:36 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_199140 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_199140 studentofrhythm Conducting is fun, I think. Except when people won't sing. I miss Primary sometimes. Mon, 24 Oct 2011 12:00:57 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_199228 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_199228 pianogirl101 I enjoy conducting music. While in the Singles Branch, I was our chorister. The only problem I had with it was constantly feeling like I was singing a solo. Someone complained to me about my choice of hymns. He said that no one knew any of them and that's why they didn't sing. I quipped back with the fact that they should know all the Sacrament hymns since those are sung repeatedly throughout the year. And if they expected me to simply do I Am a Child of God and Teach Me to Walk In the Light for the rest of the hymns, they could forget it. There are so many beautiful and wonderful hymns in the hymnal. There's no reason to pick 20 and just rotate through those. Mon, 24 Oct 2011 12:08:23 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_199351 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_199351 studentofrhythm Amen to that! Some of my favorites are ones we hardly ever sing. Mon, 24 Oct 2011 13:20:11 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_200336 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_200336 pianogirl101 One of my favorites is "Let Zion In Her Beauty Rise". We don't sing it very often which I think is rather sad. It has such a beautiful message of hope and joy! But, I also haven't found many hymns that I don't like. Mon, 24 Oct 2011 14:09:45 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_201072 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_201072 Ladypamela I hear you about not wanting to take time away from writing. My daughter plays piano beautifully, and sometimes I think, 'oh, I should learn to play better (I am self taught at about a first grade level, but I've played violin forever,, so I know music).' then I think of how much time it would take to get to the level that My daughter is, and that it would take away from my writing time. That stops me from playing too much. I love writing so much more than the piano. Besides in my ward it seems that being able to lead music is more badly needed, which I can do in my sleep. :) Mon, 24 Oct 2011 20:04:48 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_206799 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_206799 Ladypamela Sorry for all the typos, I am writing on my iPad. When will we get the dear edit button back? Mon, 24 Oct 2011 20:07:02 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_206839 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_206839 Ladypamela Mine too. One of them, Oh Say What is Truth, was written by my second great grandfather. But it is kind of obscure. I was so happy to hear that our missionaries use it as their mission song! Or it was his MTC district song, I can't remember now. Anyway, yes I agree. The messages are just as strong in the not so well known songs. Mon, 24 Oct 2011 20:11:08 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_206907 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_206907 larelmian That one's a great hymn. Our stake choir director would have us sing it to warm up. And there's "For All the Saints," that I've only sung once with a choir group when I was in college. That one was fun, and no one ever sings it. Mon, 24 Oct 2011 23:50:14 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_210333 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_210333 pianogirl101 I love "For All the Saints"! I hope that everyone is having a pleasant day! I'm on and then off again so I can finally do my laundry! (I hate not having my own washer/dryer set!) So, talk to you all later! :) Tue, 25 Oct 2011 12:57:20 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_217352 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_217352 grammarqueen90 Hi everyone! I'm LDS too, I'd love to be more involved in this group this year. I'm another fantasy writer, so my novel isn't religious, but I did get the idea for my plot from the book of Ether. There is some seriously awesome stuff in there! It's been modified pretty extensively, and it's only based off of about 7 verses, so I doubt anyone, even LDS, would make the connection without being told and looking it up :) Anyway, can't wait to get to know everyone! Tue, 25 Oct 2011 23:33:42 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_224866 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_224866 grammarqueen90 Jumping into the music conversation, I love "If you could hie to Kolob". I love all the minor chords in it. Tue, 25 Oct 2011 23:36:37 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_224882 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_224882 aj chase as a convert i haven't heard most of the more obscure hymns. just because, as aforementioned, no one sings them. i like 'all creatures of our god and king' which no one ever wants to sing but that doesn't make it obscure, just kind of hard to play lol so no one wants to play it. Wed, 26 Oct 2011 00:07:47 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_225124 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_225124 pianogirl101 Those are both really good hymns too! :) Welcome grammarqueen! I love your user name. That's creative. So, yesterday my son was walking along my mom's couch and got to the end of it. Instead of turning around and going the other way like he normally does, he let go of the edge and took a step. He immediately fell flat on his face, but he did try to take a step by himself. I wasn't sure whether I should be proud of him or be dismayed at how quickly he's learning to walk! :) So far he hasn't tried to do it again. Bashing his nose must have startled him. But I don't think it's going to be long before he tries again. Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:24:54 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_233722 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_233722 grammarqueen90 Thanks! It's been my username for everything for ages, I can't even remember how I came up with it :) That's so adorable! How old is your son? My brother learned to walk when he was around 8 months, mostly to keep up with his two older siblings! It's amazing how quickly some kids learn, yet how long it takes others. Wed, 26 Oct 2011 15:30:41 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_234800 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_234800 Ladypamela Yes, that's one of my favorites. I grew up in the church, but was unfamiliar with it until just a few years ago when many of our youth began to sing it more at Trek, Youth conference, and YW camp. Wed, 26 Oct 2011 15:48:44 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_235120 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_235120 pianogirl101 He's barely nine months. (Just turned 9 months last Friday.) He is pretty adorable. I was an early walker, as was my husband, so I figure we got a double dose of the mother's curse on that one! :) Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:13:31 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_236687 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_236687 pianogirl101 Good morning everyone. It was very quiet on here yesterday. Hope you're all doing well! :) Thu, 27 Oct 2011 09:22:29 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_246640 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_246640 moonmomma lehcarjt: hi, fellow Activity Day leader! it's my most favoritest calling ever; how do you like it? on the other hand, I can take Primary in small doses, but I get burned out pretty fast. I haven't really read much LDS fiction, but I occasionaly listen to My LDS Radio online, and I do find a certain lack of emotional depth in a lot of the lyrics of the non-hymn songs they play. I prefer to read and write (and listen to) darker, angsty stories (and music) that explore that full range of human emotion and experience, along with characters struggling with really tough moral decisions, and dliemmas where sometimes right looks wrong and wrong looks right. Just like real life, except I write fantasy, partly because it's easier to address big issues of good and evil and life and death and the meaning of the universe without being preachy about it. I always have a happy ending where right defeats wrong and the girl gets the boy and they live happily ever after (more or less). I just don't like to make it too easy for them to get to that point. bwahahahahaha. Thu, 27 Oct 2011 11:43:29 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_248379 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_248379 moonmomma I've done my time conducting the music in Relief Society. Probably my second-favorite calling. Thu, 27 Oct 2011 11:45:11 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_248401 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_248401 moonmomma I majored in music in college, but I haven't touched my flute in many many years. A friend of mine who is very involved in music asked me a few years ago, "Don't you miss it so much you can't stand it? Don't your fingers itch to play again?" And I realized then that that's how I feel about writing when I haven't written in a while. Although I do keep telling myself I'm going to get my flute fixed up sometime and mess around with it a little. Someone offered to buy it from me about a year ago and I knew I didn't want to sell it. So the bug never quite goes away, but writing is my true love. Thu, 27 Oct 2011 11:49:32 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_248470 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_248470 moonmomma pianogirl: "For All the Saints" was my husband's favorite hymn from his old church before he joined our church! He was so happy it's in our hymnal. The church he used to belong to re-did their hymnal to make it all politically correct (no references to king, father, son, man, etc.), with the result that a lot of the old favorite hymns either got dropped or their lyrics completely mangled. He appreciates our hymnal very much. Thu, 27 Oct 2011 11:52:23 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_248502 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_248502 moonmomma hi grammaqueen, your story sounds awesome! Thu, 27 Oct 2011 11:56:25 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_248555 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_248555 Lehcarjt I have the same problem in Sunday School. I LOVE to talk about the scriptures and the gospel, but I don't want to discuss the same things we've discussed every Sunday for my entire life. I want to talk about the interesting things (like the dichotomies within the gospel / church / scriptures and how we work them out). Sometimes my comments are appreciated, sometimes I leave wishing I had kept my mouth shut. And the funny thing is that my book is about a teen girl with a propensity for solving problems in a society that just wants her to stay silent and look pretty! (until this moment, I didn't really make the connection between her and my issues. Although I've always believed that art is directly tied to the artist's soul. ~Grin.) Thu, 27 Oct 2011 12:50:49 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_249341 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_249341 Lehcarjt I was having a hard time with AD girls because my partner just wanted to do the stuff in the Faith in God book (which I find deadly boring). But I just got moved up to the older girls and given a partner who is happy to let me do all the work. So we're doing mosaic tiling (fun!). The age difference makes a big difference too. The girls can just do more. Our next project is going to be making dinner for the Fire Station down the street from the church. The eight-year-old couldn't have done it. IN terms of callings it is definitely one of the easier ones. Of course, that left me open to chair the CHristmas Committee which while also fun, is a lot more work! I agree with you about stories. I love moral issues and characters that make HUGE mistakes in order to learn, but I want that happily-ever-after at the same time. Rachel Thu, 27 Oct 2011 12:54:57 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_249415 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_249415 aj chase it is quiet. i'm not actually that well. but i think i'll be fine eventually. having some serious issues with my lady bits. off to get an ultrasound tomorrow and we'll see if i need some surgery after that. so i'm kind of just in waiting mode right now Thu, 27 Oct 2011 19:34:51 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_255227 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_255227 pianogirl101 I'm sorry to hear that, aj. I'll be sending prayers and good thoughts your way. I had surgery in that area a few years ago. It wasn't fun at all, but I had a pretty quick recovery time. I think the worst part was shuffling around like an old woman for about a week and a half so I wouldn't tear the stitches. :/ But I will hope that you don't need surgery. Thu, 27 Oct 2011 20:14:39 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_255763 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_255763 Griffinclaw Hey all, my name is Lexi, and obviously I'm LDS too. :) I don't really write LDS fiction per say, but I do tend to have LDS underlying, very suttle themes, in them sometimes. :P Though I recently was writing a fantasy a story, and in my seminary class a few days ago, I just realized I got half a dozen parallels between it and the story of Joseph in Genesis. xD Anyhow, with the music conversation a few posts back, I play the viola and I've had the opportunity to play some music in Church before which was nice. :) And @ AJ, I'll keep you in my prayers as well! I hope things go for the best for you. Thu, 27 Oct 2011 21:16:18 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_256529 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_256529 moonmomma Our girls are all in one group, which makes for a pretty big group, but it works out well. We have a hard enough time finding and keeping one or two assistants for me, never mind two leaders for each group of girls if we split them! I try to make as many things as possible fit with the Faith in God program -- you're right, most of the activities in the booklet aren't really suited for Activity Day, they're really more appropriate for doing at home. We do a lot of crafts and I put those under "Developing Your Talents" in the "other activities" list ;-D For our activity last night the girls decorated Halloween cookies and passed them out to everyone else in the building (we meet at the church at the same time as Mutual), so I'll count that under "Serving Others." Thu, 27 Oct 2011 21:57:23 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_257055 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=4#forum_thread_comment_257055 moonmomma oh dear :( hope you don't need surgery but if you do, i hope you'll have a quick and comfortable recovery. Thu, 27 Oct 2011 21:58:25 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_257071 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_257071 moonmomma hi Lexi/Griffinclaw! Another fantasy writer :) Your story you were writing sounds interesting. I'd love to be able to read all these scripture -influenced/inspired stories sometime! Thu, 27 Oct 2011 21:59:52 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_257091 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_257091 pianogirl101 I always think it's kind of neat when you find parallels like that! Sounds like we've got some interesting plotlines going. :) My son had his nine month check-up today. No shots! Yay! But, he hasn't grown much since the last visit. My doctor isn't too worried since I told her my husband grew the same way, lots of growth and then nothing. So, I have a perfectly health 9 month old, who's about the size of a 6 month old. But he's happy and healthy so that is all that matters to me. Fri, 28 Oct 2011 12:22:29 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_265311 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_265311 grammarqueen90 pianogirl - I can't imagine your little boy almost walking if he's the size of a six month old. I have a niece who has always been small for her age, and when she started walking, it looked so silly! Since she was so tiny, it looked like she could barely sit up, but there she was, toddling around the house. It's good to hear your boy is healthy though, that's the most important thing! AJ - sorry to hear that, you'll be in my thoughts and prayers as well. I hope everything works out for you. Griffinclaw - isn't it great when those connections just kind of happen without us meaning them to? I'm another fellow fantasy writer, so we'll have to stay in touch during November to keep tabs on how we're all doing! As for me, my week is going pretty good. I'm ready for November already, though! Somehow I've gotten it into my head that I can write 75k in a month instead of 50k, so I hope I can prove myself right! Fri, 28 Oct 2011 13:52:04 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_266805 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_266805 aj chase thanks. looks like i have a wonky ovary with a large growth. whether or not it needs to come out might severely affect my ability to finish nano this year :/ bad timing lol. piano girl my kids are always smaller than their peers. my eight year old daughter is about 3'7" and weighs about 30 pounds. she still wears sizes 4 and 5. the doctor says she's healthy. just small. so i feel you lol. grammarqueen, i'd be so impressed with you forever lol. i'd never be able to do that. unless i sent my kids away or something haha. i can usually do 50k without too too much trouble. just a bit of scrambling here and there at the end. but 75 would be too much of a stretch. Fri, 28 Oct 2011 17:31:06 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_270413 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_270413 WilliamPall So I was here last year, not sure if anyone remembers me. I finished with a few days to spare. I think I concentrated more on writing than posting to the forums. Last year was tough because I was working 754 miles away from my house and I was driving three hours a day on top of working a full 40 hours a week. I've changed jobs, I work form home now, so no commute, but they are paying major incentive to work overtime during the second and third weeks of November. just this week alone I've signed up for 20 hours of OT. Will that deter me from writing the sequel to last years book? Uhm . . . check back with my on my birthday (December 1st). Sun, 30 Oct 2011 12:02:42 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_299064 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_299064 WilliamPall [quote=WilliamPall] working 75 miles away from my house [/quote] Stupid typos. Sun, 30 Oct 2011 12:06:26 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_299126 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_299126 aj chase haha i was wondering how you drove seven hundred miles in three hours. Sun, 30 Oct 2011 13:11:17 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_300240 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_300240 green_apples Hi guys! checking in from brisbane, australia :D i was pretty happy to see a pretty active thread already! I'll be using my nano-month to finish off my novel, though i have been playing with the idea of using it as an excuse to get down the start of an idea buzzing around my head... decisions decisions! nice to meet you all! oh, aj - good luck with everything. i've had a couple surgeries... emergency c-sections, not pleasant. hope it all goes well for you! and pianogirl, i have a little girls who's nine months old too :) Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:24:38 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_302716 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_302716 lloannna Hello, all. Ohio Mormon (just graduated from YSA via the "long and slow" method) and 8th-time WriMo. This year the church mostly isn't in my novel (which is an epistolary experimental thing about miracle cures and space colonization.) But my characters are generally temple-worthy anyhow, because I don't know enough about sin and vice to either accurately depict it or be comfortable trying. :) Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:49:55 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_303206 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_303206 pianogirl101 grammarqueen - It is pretty funny watching him move around because he really does look too small to be doing it, but he does! And I was just grateful that the doctor wasn't concerned about him. He was hospitalized at one month for failure to thrive (doesn't that just break your heart hearing it? I heard that and instantly thought "I'm a terrible mother!"). He had tongue tie which is now corrected and he can and does eat quite well. He's just small which isn't surprising. I was the small and my husband was small. aj - I hope that things will go well for you. I had a surgery on a cyst a few years ago. Not pleasant, but the recovery time was fairly swift. So if things do turn to surgery, I will wish you a speedy recovery. And as far as being small, I was the shortest in all my classes until 8th grade. Then I had a rapid growth spurt that put me to the taller end. WilliamPall - Welcome back! :) green-apples - Welcome in! I've got an idea that's been in the back of my mind, but I'm keeping it on the backburner so I can work on the sequel to last year's story. Good luck! lloannna - Welcome in! :) Sun, 30 Oct 2011 17:52:27 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_305898 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_305898 topsecret grammarqueen - I looked at your novel summary and remember reading that story and thinking it would make a good book. I think Ether is especially full of those little nuggets, probably because such a long time period is covered in a short space. About the hymns - If You Could Hie to Kolob was pretty popular in my area when I was in a teenager. Okay, when I was a teenager - that mistake made me laugh and now I can't bear to take it out completely. Anyway, that was at least popular among the seminary kids. And Oh Say What Is Truth is really good, too. Not that I really dislike any of the hymns. But I do often feel a bit stressed when we sing Count Your Blessings, because I sing alto and at one point I'm not sure whether I'm meant to be singing "Name them, name them one by one" or "Name them o-one by-y one". I looked up the bit from the visiting teaching message I mentioned earlier. [quote=October's Visiting Teaching Message]Most likely, each of Helaman’s 2,060 warriors was influenced by a mother. But these mothers did not act alone. Together with other righteous men and women, these mothers must have united their faith and example to teach the power of covenants.... We likewise must honor our covenants so that children and youth—our own children and those in our wards, branches, neighborhoods, and communities—will understand and support covenant keeping.[/quote] Today was our first day practicing our Primary program. We started out in the chapel, then moved to the Primary room so the other ward could have Sacrament Meeting. When we finished practicing, just in time for the end of church, most of my class went directly to our classroom and one of the boys told his dad he couldn't go home because we hadn't had class yet. Sun, 30 Oct 2011 20:44:44 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_309787 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_309787 larelmian We had our Primary program last week. This week I went to my brother's ward (about an hour south of where I live), so we could see my nephew in the program. Very cute. I hope all of you had a great Sunday. Sun, 30 Oct 2011 23:30:07 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_313767 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_313767 aj chase yeah, it's cyst related. but it's possible the entire ovary may have to come out. just depends. i'm glad the recovery time is quick, anyway. Mon, 31 Oct 2011 00:51:18 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_315023 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_315023 studentofrhythm Hi William! I too agree with not worrying about children's size. Kingsfold - the tune we sing "...Kolob" to, is in my opinion one of the world's most perfect melodies. We have some recordings of it, slightly altered, under "The Star of the County Down" and "The Seven Joys of Mary." A favorite hymn of mine is "Adam-Ondi-Ahman": again, partly because of the tune and also the rhythm. I'd like to see someone come up with a dance to it. I used to sing it to my daughter all the time when I put her to bed, and then she started requesting "All Creatures of Our God and King" every night. Mon, 31 Oct 2011 10:59:09 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_323270 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_323270 pianogirl101 Good afternoon everyone! Boy am I ready to get started. I won't be staying up till midnight to start though. Sleep is too precious in my home. :) But, first thing tomorrow I'll be typing away! I'm excited about it. My Halloween party Saturday was awesome, but somehow I missed getting pictures of both my son and I in our costumers together. (Actually, that's probably because he was asleep for most of the party.) So the new picture will be a hodge-podge thrown together pic. :) Gotta love editing! Mon, 31 Oct 2011 15:34:59 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_330381 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_330381 grammarqueen90 I'm an alto too, I know exactly what you're talking about! I sing it both ways, just depending on my mood :) I understand how you feel though, which is "technically" the correct way?? Wow, your primary program is pretty late in the year. I was just released from being a Sunbeams teacher, and we had ours over a month ago! That's cute about the boy who wanted to go to class though! Kids are so adorable! Mon, 31 Oct 2011 15:40:43 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_330525 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_330525 rosepetal720 That's awesome! I'd like to sing to my children when I have them. My mother used to sing us Disney songs, and I still remember that. Our favorite was "I Love to Laugh" because we loved hearing out mom throw her head back and say, "Ha ha ha ha!" My mom didn't sing this, but I always loved the part in The Little Mermaid when she does the "ahahah" thing. When I was four, I would sing it all the time. teralynpilgrim.blogspot.com Mon, 31 Oct 2011 15:44:02 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_330607 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_330607 grammarqueen90 Good afternoon all! I won't be staying up until midnight either, that's WAY past my bedtime! I'm quite excited as well though, even though I've already been working on it (I know, I'm a cheater!). I keep forgetting about Halloween. It's kind of weird, but it's not really registering as a holiday to me. I'm more excited about NaNo and about my husband's interview on Wednesday, which could mean us moving 800 miles away from where we are now! I know it's not THAT far (13 hours by car), but I've only ever lived in three cities, and they all touch! But anyway, Halloween seems less important this year. Maybe it will be more exciting again when I have kids of my own (HOPEFULLY by next Halloween, but we'll see). I hope everyone enjoys their last few hours before NaNo starts! Mon, 31 Oct 2011 15:44:29 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_330628 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_330628 pianogirl101 Halloween was never a big deal with my family, but I always liked playing dress-up. Having a holiday to really get fun with it? Can't resist! :) Hopefully my new picture will show up soon. Right now I'm still seeing the old one. Good luck with your husband's interview! I hope that all goes as the Lord would have it! :) Mon, 31 Oct 2011 16:05:42 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_331156 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_331156 jazzaholic17 "My characters are generally temple-worthy anyhow, because I don't know enough about sin and vice to either accurately depict it or be comfortable trying." Right? I swear my characters are not LDS this year, church is not involved, and yet... I guess we'll find out starting in about six hours. Mon, 31 Oct 2011 16:47:08 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_332129 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_332129 Ladypamela I don't stay up until midnight either, I need regular sleep! I am an early riser, though, so tomorrow I'll get up at 4am (only an hour earlier than normal) and type away! I finally have a story/plan I am happy with. I never thought I'd come up with something! Now I can't wait to get started! Happy writing everyone! Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:42:51 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_333622 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_333622 Ladypamela HI! About 'Count Your Blessings'. 'Technically', altos sing coouuunt your blessings; name them o-one by-y o-one, coouuunt your blessings etc. Sopranos and altos follow the top line of words. The tenor and bass parts sing the lower line of words. My husband is bass and I sing alto so it's a fun counterpoint when we sing this song. Though of course, you can do what you want! Sometimes if the song is high enough I sing the soprano part an octave lower; sometimes I can go low enough for tenor. It's all praising God! Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:48:57 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_333799 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_333799 aj chase heck no. no midnight for me either. i've got school aged kids and a baby and 6:30 comes early lol Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:25:55 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_340448 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_340448 larelmian It's eleven o'clock. I'm still up. I might as well wait another hour, type all the way up to the title of chapter one, and then crash and burn. I had my own personal kick-off party -- me, a cloak, a stuffed bunny called Plot, and the movie "Whisper of the Heart," which is the closest thing to a movie about NaNoWriMo. (Okay, she takes two months to prove herself and write a novel.) Tue, 01 Nov 2011 01:04:13 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_343665 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_343665 pianogirl101 Good morning! Hope that everyone has gotten some good sleep and some excellent writing in this morning! :) I was so excited to get started this morning and had about three hundred words typed when my son woke up and needed attention. (As all babies do.) :) So I one-handed a lot of it. There's an excerpt up for anyone interested in taking a look at it. I figure I just about made my word goal for the day, but I'm going to take a break for a while so I can shower while little guy naps. Happy writing everyone! :) Tue, 01 Nov 2011 09:32:03 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_352763 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_352763 rosepetal720 Halloween was so awesome when I was a kid, but adults are lame. There are no haunted houses or paries or events in my area that don't include a toddler costume contest. Halloween will be a lot more fun when I have kids and can actually do stuff, or when I have a house and can host parties of my own, but for now, it really sucks. Tue, 01 Nov 2011 15:38:47 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_361978 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=5#forum_thread_comment_361978 rosepetal720 Larelmian: I had a personal kick-off party too! I played the Final Countdown while wearing my winners t-shirt from last year and chatting on the forums with other impatient people waiting for 12:01 am. It was awesome! And can I just say how INCREDIBLE this new website is? I've been moaning and groaning about all the missing features for weeks, but last year I couldn't even get on the site on November 1 because it was so slow. Now, it runs like a charm! Yay! I wrote a ton last night and today, and my fingers are hurting. Everyone stretch your hands and wrists on a regular basis to keep from getting carpul tunnels (however you spell it... you know what I'm trying to say.) teralynpilgrim.blogspot.com Tue, 01 Nov 2011 15:41:58 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_362086 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_362086 larelmian I've written 3000 words so far; first chapter is done. I think that's all I'll get done for today, since I do have a few other things to do. Like lug around buckets of apples. (Actually, that's what I did this morning, and it was freezing out there. No, really, freezing.) Clean the kitchen floor. Read my scriptures. Go to work. All that kind of thing. Tue, 01 Nov 2011 16:08:02 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_362984 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_362984 aj chase i haven't written anything yet. but i'm not worried. i'll get there eventually lol Tue, 01 Nov 2011 17:49:10 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_366692 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_366692 WilliamPall So I'm scheduled to work 13 hours today. I stayed up til 2 am writing last night and found out that I can hit the daily word count goal with about that two hours work. I hope for a day I don't have overtime so I can really get the juices flowing. Now of course, I did this alone last year. This year my wife is trying. At 2 AM when I stopped for the night (needed some sleep for work) I asked her how her word count was . . . . She was further along than I was. I didn't know whether to be happy (that she got into a groove and enjoyed writing) or upset (that she surpassed me). luckily if I feel I need to complain about how well my wife's writing is . . . (complain? really?) I can come here and two things will happen. 1. I'll be safe venting cause she'd never come to this thread even if she does start using the NaNo forums (she is not LDS), and 2. You guys can point out how uncharitable my attitude is and metaphorically kick my rear end. Oh . . . got a half hour left till my next four hours of work. time to get writing again. Tue, 01 Nov 2011 18:22:07 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_367776 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_367776 topsecret I ended up deciding around 11:30 last night that I wanted to just go to bed. I wasn't sure whether I wanted to stay up and write before then. Tue, 01 Nov 2011 22:16:12 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_375937 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_375937 aj chase finished my 1667 for the day. i think i might write a bit more later after i've worked out and everyone is in bed. i like to get ahead when i can so that i don't feel so much pressure on days where i can't write as much. Tue, 01 Nov 2011 22:20:40 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_376095 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_376095 Lehcarjt I was ultra excited about starting and put in two separate writing chunks. Yeah for day one! (29 more like this and I'll have two books done). I hope everyone else had a good day. Tue, 01 Nov 2011 22:40:47 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_376830 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_376830 grammarqueen90 I wish it was freezing here! It hit 90 today. Again. I'm ready for fall already! Tue, 01 Nov 2011 22:45:34 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_377022 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_377022 grammarqueen90 I have written 2,442 words today. I'm excited, because I hit my goal (2,077) without any problems! This year I gave myself a schedule based on how much time I have each day to write, so this first week is the testing week to see if I can actually meet the quotas I set for myself. Looks like Tuesdays should be great! :) Tue, 01 Nov 2011 22:47:01 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_377061 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_377061 Lehcarjt I always do a schedule too (okay, if I'm honest, I'll admit I have a rather elaborate spreadsheet so I know where I am for the day and month, etc...). It helps me stay focused. Wed, 02 Nov 2011 00:32:44 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_379796 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_379796 pianogirl101 Good morning friends! :) William - I think if my husband decided to do this and got ahead of me 3 things would happen: 1) I would die of shock because my husband hates writing. Hates! writing. (and for good reason) 2) When recovered, I would congratulate him for writing. 3) I would forbid him from writing another word until I'd caught up with him. :) I'm a wee bit competitive, so I think it's only to the good that my husband doesn't like to write. But kudos to your wife for joining you in it! (There's lots of time left for you to outstrip her word count.) :) I surpassed my word goal yesterday by two hundred words. I could have done it by more if I'd taken more time to write, but I did go to Build-a-Bear workshop to make my little Gary's Christmas present. (Yes, I really am a five year old trapped in an adult body!) My sister and I went because we're doing a bear for my brother who's in Iceland on his mission and one for my son. I made the cutest white bear with a Santa costume. I think it's absolutely adorable. Gary will probably hug it and hold it until he gets a toy he can make noise with and Snowball will be left to the side. lol. But it's the thought that counts and it really is super cute! I'm going to have to go back and make one for myself sometime! :) Happy writing today! It's now time for me to take advantage of what little time I have left before my son wakes up. Wed, 02 Nov 2011 07:55:21 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_387007 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_387007 Ladypamela Umm, what does Fall look like in AZ? I live in Western Washington, and it has dipped below freezing a couple of times. I can't imagine 90 deg. in Nov.! Wed, 02 Nov 2011 10:08:55 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_390208 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_390208 studentofrhythm Your brother's in Iceland for his mission? Ok, I'm in danger of breaking the 10th commandment. Wed, 02 Nov 2011 10:41:09 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_391110 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_391110 pianogirl101 lol. Yeah, he really loves it there. He had some trouble during the summer because the sun never fully sets in mid-summer. But now the days are getting very very short. He'll have the opposite problem come mid-winter. We're really excited about his Christmas call because his mission uses video skype, so we'll be able to see and talk to him. It'll be awesome! :) Wed, 02 Nov 2011 10:46:07 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_391258 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_391258 moonmomma it's nice when we don't have to use the air conditioner at night any more. on the trees that have leaves that turn color, they turn about 4 days before Christmas. Wed, 02 Nov 2011 19:10:10 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_407970 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_407970 grammarqueen90 I love spreadsheets! I have my daily word count goals posted on a calendar as my desktop so I can reference it easily, since each day of the week is a different goal. I haven't tried anything this thought-out before, usually I stick with the 1,667 words per day, but so far I'm finding I really like this! Could just be the beginning of NaNo excitement though, lol :) Wed, 02 Nov 2011 22:34:54 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_415378 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_415378 grammarqueen90 Oh wow, I've never heard of a mission doing skype, that's really neat! My brother-in-law is preparing to go on a mission soon, he's just waiting to finish up some dental work, so it will be fun to see where he ends up going. How neat it will be if he can use skype! Wed, 02 Nov 2011 22:37:32 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_415471 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_415471 pianogirl101 I hadn't heard of it before either, but we're really excited. This week I'm finishing up his Christmas package as well as my brother-in-law in Uruguay. I figure I'd rather they got there early than late. :) Thu, 03 Nov 2011 15:40:07 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_436976 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_436976 Lehcarjt On Missions... We've had like five missionaries in a row get called to Brazil. Has anyone else's ward had that experience? I'm wondering if it's just us by accident or if all the sudden there are more missionaries going there. Rachel (who's a bit behind on word count for the day, but ahead enough overall that I'm going to watch movies with my kids!) Fri, 04 Nov 2011 21:19:07 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_478195 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_478195 aj chase we've had a couple sent to Brazil. but i don't remember where most of them have gone. Fri, 04 Nov 2011 21:29:25 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_478554 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_478554 larelmian The last few missionaries from my ward have gone state-side. One just got back from WV; another one set out to NM. Fri, 04 Nov 2011 22:31:26 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_480582 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_480582 pianogirl101 Most of our missionaries have gone to Central/South America or stateside. My brother is one of the first to go outside our hemisphere in a while. I am now going to quit procrastinating and get back to my novel. :) I've been hoping that my son would be angelic and go to sleep for a nice mid-morning nap, but it's not happening. I guess it's time to start my one-handed mad typing skills! :) Good luck today everyone! :) Sat, 05 Nov 2011 10:29:34 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_491170 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_491170 aj chase where at in new mexico? maybe i'll see him lol. Sat, 05 Nov 2011 11:15:01 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_492092 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_492092 Eran of Arcadia To introduce myself . . . I wrote, and won, each year from 2006-2009; last year, and this year, I sat out because I am in grad school and working full time and I don't have the time. In fact, I SHOULD be working on a paper right now, but instead I am here. I was born and raised in the Church, but I didn't get serious about it until my mom and most of my siblings left it. Long story there. I served a mission in California (Arcadia, specifically, hence the username). I met my wife in one of the YSA wards in the DC area where we live, and we have been married about 2 years. They keep calling me to teach, which is really hard for me, but I liked when I was a Nursery leader. My wife, not so much (she is a nanny, so she was doing on Sundays what she got paid to do all week.) Currently between callings. My various stories take place in three separate "worlds" - one of them is a sort of alternate earth, one is this earth in the fairly near future (a couple hundred years) and one is this earth, throughout history. I don't mention the church in any of them (in one it wouldn't exist and in another it mostly takes place before the Restoration.) In fact, all three main characters are atheists, although religion will play a role in all of them and for the most part I want to portray religion positively, but definitely realistically. I think the Book of Mormon is a great place to find ideas - there are all these little incidents and stories. Since one of my worlds involves a lot of war, I think it will creep in there more. In fact, one of the characters is named "Jerry Morgan" because I see him as sort of a combination of Jeremiah and Mormon - he spends all his time in a futile effort to get a society to recognize its sins, but in the end he feels he has no choice but to lead them in a doomed battle. Sat, 05 Nov 2011 12:25:34 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_493718 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_493718 Eran of Arcadia So a question for all of you . . . How willing are you to have protagonists who are living pretty far from Gospel standards? I mean, obviously it's fiction after all, but I still think i will feel a little weird next year with my MC - I will be writing in first person, but this guy is going to be a huge womanizer (he will have a girlfriend, but also a series of one-night stands at the same time). He will also be a vigilante superhero who breaks the law and does all sorts of morally questionable things. This will be a bit trickier for me than my last NaNo MC, who didn't really do anything to far outside what I do (except the whole "not believing in God" thing). Sat, 05 Nov 2011 12:36:11 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_493966 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_493966 pianogirl101 For me personally, that would be very difficult. However, how I write and how others write may be totally different. Currently I'm working on a series of fairy tales. There are characters who are very bad people, but at the same time, there's always the good guy and the good guy does always win. So, I don't know what to tell you. For myself, my main characters have to share at least the same moral compass as me. They may not be members of the church per se, but they do follow a definite moral code. So, that's my take, but I'd say write what you enjoy. Sat, 05 Nov 2011 13:53:55 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_495853 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_495853 aj chase i don't have a problem with it. lol maybe that shows how much i haven't changed or whatever. but i'm a convert who joined the church as an adult and am the only member of my family. i've seen all kinds of things and i just don't have a problem working it all out in a book. Sat, 05 Nov 2011 18:30:45 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_503578 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_503578 larelmian Albuquerque. Sat, 05 Nov 2011 18:45:14 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_504013 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_504013 larelmian I tried writing about pirates in my 2009 NaNo. I ended up hating them and killing them all. I think I stick with my stripling warrior type character, thanks. Today I didn't get any writing done. First, I spent all morning at the temple. Then I went to a convert's baptism. And this evening, there's the adult session of stake conference. I'll do some more writing on Monday. Sat, 05 Nov 2011 18:50:41 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_504163 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_504163 pianogirl101 Those are good reasons not to get any writing done. I've had my excitement for the day: earthquakes in Oklahoma that I could feel here in Kansas. Definitely a new experience for me. I've felt earthquakes before, but in California. Not used to them being in my homestate! Anyway, 'tis late! Good night all! Sat, 05 Nov 2011 23:36:48 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_512271 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_512271 grammarqueen90 Welcome Eran! To answer your question, I've done both. Most of my characters are moral, pretty similar standards to my own, because that's what I know. It's hard for me to write things I don't know. Although my main character did kill someone in the first chapter of the book... I've also written characters that are not quite so moral. I wrote a short story about a guy who accidentally hit his girlfriend with his motorcycle because he was driving drunk. The overall theme was that this was bad, obviously, but it was all from his perspective. I found it to be a really interesting exercise, to try and put myself in those shoes. I think it's okay, as long as you are comfortable with how far things go. For example, I could never write anything that is even close to explicit, because in my mind, that is going too far. But it really just depends on you, I think. Pianogirl - earthquakes, yikes! I have always lived in AZ, so those are definitely foreign to me. Did it cause any damage? I hope your family and your home are safe! As for me, I'm actually doing really surprisingly well. Today I wrote over 6k! I went to a write in, having already written 3k, and was able to double that. So I'm standing at almost 17k total. I never thought I'd be able to get so ahead in the first week! My stake also has stake conference this weekend, and we just got home from the adult session about an hour ago. I came away from the meeting amazed at how much the Lord knows what we need. My husband and I have been praying all week for a certain answer, and while that one didn't come, a completely different answer came to a question I didn't know I had. I'm so glad Heavenly Father knows what I need and helps me with it, even if I don't know that I need it. Sun, 06 Nov 2011 00:02:44 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_512868 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_512868 Eran of Arcadia Oh, I won't get the least bit explicit. I can't even READ sex scenes in books . . . less for moral considerations than just because I find them so awkward and weird and embarrassing. But when my MC sleeps with someone, the reader will know. Sun, 06 Nov 2011 09:10:12 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_520965 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_520965 topsecret I've noticed a rather large proportion of the people I know who've been on missions in the last 5-10 years go to Brazil. That clustering is a bit unusual, but Brazil is a very large country. Sun, 06 Nov 2011 13:22:19 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_526577 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_526577 topsecret I don't have anything against writing character with different moral standards in theory. In practice, though, I don't think I'm quite able to really get into the head of a character whose basic moral understanding is too far off of mine. I'm not sure about someone who deliberately chooses to do things they believe to be wrong on a regular basis. This article talks about some related issues: <a href="http://www.nauvoo.com/library/card-talk.html" rel="nofollow">A Mormon Writer Looks at the Problem of Evil in Fiction</a> I've never actually noticed an earthquake, even though there were a couple times when other people nearby did. Maybe someday. (That makes it sound like I wish I had. And now I'm wondering if I do.) Over the past couple of weeks, we've had three new families with primary children come into our ward. One of the kids got here early enough to have a part in our program, but the rest came for the first time today and our program is next week. Sun, 06 Nov 2011 13:38:28 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_527044 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_527044 Ladypamela My son is going to Brazil, as soon as his visa comes in. (He's in the Provo MTC right now). We're in western Washington, and a lot of our young men and women have been called to Brazil lately. I understand it has something to do with our consulate getting visas quicker/easier than other Brazilian consulates in the country. That said, it still seems to be taking a long time! Sun, 06 Nov 2011 14:54:26 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_529118 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_529118 topsecret Will he be transferring to the Brazil MTC? Sun, 06 Nov 2011 15:16:29 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_529747 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_529747 pianogirl101 Grammarqueen - Yes, we're all safe. The quake was actually in Oklahoma, so we didn't feel it as strongly as they did. And it was only a 5.6. (I say that like it's nothing, but with some of the really bad ones people have seen this year, it wasn't really so bad.) There wasn't any damage here, though I know from news reports that there was damage in Oklahoma. My son did not like it one bit. It took us a while to get him calmed down enough to go to sleep. But we were all just fine. We honestly thought it was just our upstairs neighbors at first until I realized the whole building was shaking. Even they aren't that rowdy. But it was a really gentle quake here. Nothing more than some rocking and then it was over. And that's really cool about your stake conference. I love those moments when you are reminded that our Heavenly Father is there! topsecret - That's tough when you get new kids that close to the Primary program. Our Primary program was supposed to be next Sunday but due to scheduling conflicts has now been moved to the 20th. So now we're going to have seating issues becayse children who were going to be out-of-town will now be at church for the program. C'est la vie! Sun, 06 Nov 2011 19:12:10 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_536204 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_536204 Sunflakes Eran - I am so glad there is someone else out there who holds the same views on the matter as me. I have been struggling for years with this. Since everyone seems to be saying so in their first post here (though it seems sort of obvious -- why else would you even be in this forum?), I am Mormon, have been my whole life, and have never done anything that would be questioned by the church. I do, however, have characters who do. And I've been struggling with deciding whether this was okay. Like you, I have a character who is quite the womanizer -- that is, toward the beginning of the book. He is my MC and is a good person in most ways, just honestly doesn't really know much better. I would never, ever go into any amount of detail, and I'm not even entirely sure how obvious his life style will be made to be. It is in no way the focus of the book, it's just a fact about the MC. Still, I've always wondered whether this is going against my religion or not. I also have multiple characters who drink, and a few do live with someone they are not married to. I always sort of figured this was all they know, and in their position, not really morally wrong, because of how they've been raised and how the rest of the world treats it. But I'd be interested to hear differing opinions. I also have many that curse, which leads to another topic. How do you handle swearing in writing? If you choose to only create characters who use clean language, be my guest, but if you're less righteous like me, is it like you yourself are cursing if you actually write it out? I know there are situations where you can just write, "He swore violently," but sometimes it's within the context of a sentence, in which case, in order to write the sentence at all, one would have to write the swear. Is that equivalent to cussing yourself, or is it justifiable? Sun, 06 Nov 2011 19:44:23 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_537094 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_537094 Eran of Arcadia I refuse to swear in real life or even in writing. This isn't really a moral position for me - I know plenty of far more obedient members than I, who have been known to let a few of the more interesting words slip - but I swore a lot as a teenager and the only way to stop was to stop completely. This tends to render my dialog a bit unrealistic - people swear far more in real life than in fiction. But the whole "describing it in the text" works, I think. Sun, 06 Nov 2011 20:34:42 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_538457 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_538457 pianogirl101 On swearing, first it is a personal decision. On that note, do what you feel comfortable with. If it makes your skin crawl to write it, than find other ways of expressing it. Second, swearing is really not as common as movies and media would have us think. Consider your characters' backgrounds. For some, even those not members of the church, it would be totally realistic to have them not curse. My favorite example is in The Goonies. I was listening to an interview with the kid who plays Data and he absolutely could not swear because his mother had taught him it was wrong. So instead of saying the swear words in the script, he spelled them out. It's still getting the point across, but he stood strong for not saying the words his mother had forbidden. Obviously in writing, it still becomes the curse word, but it is all a matter of how you feel about it. I can't swear in speech or writing either. I made the mistake of doing it once and my mother told me that the ugliest thing a woman could do was swear. I have never, ever slipped since. (Having self-image issues at the time did help on eliminating any desire to do it again). On a totally unrelated note, my brother in Iceland sent his family email and I thought you guys would find this pretty neat: "So, you mentioned the 50,000 word goal from NaNoWriMo, and I just thought you might find this interesting. As I walked in the door of the library this morning, guess what I saw? A NaNoWriMo sticker! It brought back some great memories and reminded me of you." I thought that was pretty much amazing! :) Have a great day everyone and I'll check in again after I make my word goal! :) Mon, 07 Nov 2011 08:16:06 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_548603 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_548603 studentofrhythm I broke the ice when it came to writing obscenities years ago, and I don't find it too problematic, if there's a good reason for it: like pianogirl101 wrote, not everyone swears in real life, so to put specific words in someone's mouth should tell the reader about the character, not say: here's a writer who is giggling with the new-found freedom to write naughties. I'm a fine one to talk: my novel this year is kind of an exercise in writing/exploring late adolescent/early adult sexuality. My FMC this year is a pagan priestess and my MMC is a Lutheran who's testing his own religious convictions as he lives on his own for the first time in his life. I decided to try to make things interesting by having serious sparks fly between them but have her devoted to a celibate lifestyle. This won't stop them from doing other things that would not be acceptable to us, and of course the MMC has his private fantasies too. Mon, 07 Nov 2011 11:22:46 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_551117 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_551117 Lehcarjt [quote=Eran of Arcadia] How willing are you to have protagonists who are living pretty far from Gospel standards? [/quote] The situation as you describe it would be hard for me to write. I'm good with portraying characters as they would be in real life (I write historical and my characters treat alcohol and smoking as real Victorian people would). I even have adultery, child abuse, murder, etc. But the heroine isn't the perpetrator, and that for me is the difference between portraying reality and promoting sin. Or, I would let my heroine 'commit sins' but only as part of her arc. She'd have to pay for them before or as part of the stories black moment / climax. (I've been playing with having my heroine seduce her love interest. It makes sense in terms of her growth and the story. It would also be the HUGE mistake that drives the book series to the climax.) The other thing to consider is that if you write a character that falls outside of the parameters of Mormon acceptability, church members won't buy your book. And if you write inside the parameters, members will just BECAUSE you are LDS. I've had people tell me they buy every mainstream book written by LDS authors just to be supportive. (Which isn't to say that we should write to the members, but is something to consider - genre probably makes a difference too.) Mon, 07 Nov 2011 19:23:59 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_562411 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_562411 larelmian Hi all. We had a pretty good family night. The missionaries were over, along with a new member couple, and we had dinner and watched the movie "The Restoration." It was really good. Apple pie and ice cream for dessert. Mon, 07 Nov 2011 23:08:22 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_567963 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_567963 pianogirl101 Good morning! Just a brief pop in to say hello before I take advantage of the fact that my son finally went down for his nap. If I apologize several times a day to my mother, will the mother's curse be broken? lol. Tue, 08 Nov 2011 10:14:30 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_575342 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_575342 topsecret It depends. Is your mother likely to get annoyed from so many apologies? Tue, 08 Nov 2011 15:30:52 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_581776 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_581776 aj chase that's cool. i live in an albuquerque suburb called rio rancho. so i really may see him lol Tue, 08 Nov 2011 22:11:55 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_590367 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_590367 aj chase i've had some trouble with this too. i've given it a lot of thought. i'll let you know when i figure it out haha Tue, 08 Nov 2011 22:13:51 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_590409 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_590409 pianogirl101 lol. Probably. ;) We're getting our first snow of the year now. (Sorry my southern friends!) It's lovely, but I hate driving in it. I'm pretty much a wimp when it comes to driving in anything wet, slick, freezing, or windy. Aka, if it's not perfectly sunny and beautiful, I have a hard time getting behind the wheel! :) Anyway, it's late and I'm getting a cold so I need to head to bed. Nighty night all! :) Tue, 08 Nov 2011 22:25:20 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_590619 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_590619 larelmian That would be weird if you ran into Elder Cook down there. XD Weird Mormon connections. Wed, 09 Nov 2011 10:55:33 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_598941 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_598941 pianogirl101 Stopping by, saying hi and crashing for the night. I didn't make my goal today, but right now I don't care. I just need some sleep! Hopefully in the morning my throat won't be quite so raw and I'll be able to make up for today's slacking. :) Talk to you later! :) Wed, 09 Nov 2011 21:44:13 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_611258 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_611258 Lehcarjt Have a good night! I'm ahead of the game, but we're heading to Disneyland for a couple of days (it's supposed to rain. Yeah!), so I'm trying to make up for it. Still things are swimming right along. It's amazing how motivating Nano is. Typing that number each day and seeing my charts change does wonders for keeping me going. Wed, 09 Nov 2011 22:12:57 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_611755 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_611755 studentofrhythm Colds are so annoying! I hope yours goes away quickly, pianogirl101. Well I know how part of my story is going to end now, or at least climax. I'm going to inflict pain and suffering on my characters. But I don't know where the novel itself is going to end. The MMC might seek out a friend of his who will be getting home from her mission in Mongolia at about that time. But that's not yet decided. I don't know if 50K will be enough, but I don't know how much time I"ll have to write more than that. Thu, 10 Nov 2011 09:45:45 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_618835 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_618835 pianogirl101 lol. Pain and suffering does tend to round things out a bit. :) I'm feeling worse if anything today, but I'm determined to at least make today's count and make up for yesterday. If I have to chain myself to the desk I'm going to make it. I'm really just hoping that I don't give this to my husband or son. The last thing I need is a sick baby or hubby feeling miserable with all his big projects due. Ugh. Well, back to the novel I go. Maybe I'll make Allegra sick too and we can commiserate. lol. Thu, 10 Nov 2011 11:29:28 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_620459 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_620459 studentofrhythm Well, that would be good for the word count! Thu, 10 Nov 2011 11:39:05 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_620618 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_620618 aj chase i've noticed that six degrees of separation in the mormon world is really more like three degrees lol Thu, 10 Nov 2011 15:54:20 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_625346 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_625346 moonmomma I go with the characters. I don't really feel like I invent my characters, it's more like they come to me fully-formed and I have to discover who they are. And especially if you aren't writing in a setting where the people will have learned the kind of standards we have, maybe where laws and customs and ideas about morality are different from ours, the characters aren't going to behave like members of the Church "just because." In the original novel I'm working on right now (not for NaNo, it's in revisions) there are traditional "folk" religions that concern themselves with personal morality, but the dominant religion is more of a philosophy of venerating the people who (supposedly) introduced magic to the land where this takes place, and is more concerned with proper use of magic and maintainance of the social order. Intimate relations outside of marriage are looked down on as a possible disruption of the proper social order, not because they're inherently wrong, and when my main characters enter into a love affair, it's more of a matter of them not acknowledging the proper place of things than of them actually doing something sinful, in the way that world works. And there are fundamental plot reasons why that world and society work that way. Now, I try not to glorify what they're doing, beyond the fact that they were both very emotionally devastated people who have finally found a 'home' with each other, and I get them properly married as soon as the story allows. But the inherent nature of the characters and the needs of the story guide what I do. I tried to write that novel before without them engaging in that level of intimacy so soon, but it just wouldn't work. The characters had to reach that level of connection unexpectedly and spontaneously, and even though marriage was not an option at that particular time, for their subsequent actions to make any sense. I hope that people who read what I write would be able to distinguish between me and my characters, and know that just because a character does something, does NOT mean that I approve or condone what they do. By the end of the story, appropriate lessons are learned and changes are made, and I think there are usually overarching LDS-oriented themes in my stories. But I'm not writing Sunday School lessons; I'm writing books that explore a wide range of human conditions, emotions, and experiences, good and bad, and I think that truths can come from them even if the specific characters do or don't do specific things that we know are right or wrong. Thu, 10 Nov 2011 16:29:57 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_626116 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_626116 pianogirl101 Well said. :) Thu, 10 Nov 2011 16:38:48 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_626291 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_626291 moonmomma I just wrote a long post (go back about a page, I guess) where I talk about a story I'm working on where the two MCs enter into a love affair, in a society where this is not seen as inherently immoral but more as an affront to the social order. In this particular society, the highest ideals are correct use of magic (this is a fantasy and is not connected to our world at all) and maintenance of a stable social order. This development in their relationship is necessary for their subsequent actions to make sense, as I learned after I tried to write the story without it. I believe writers should stay true to the characters and to the story they're telling, and that there's a difference between depicting characters (even main characters) doing things that we know to be wrong, and advocating sinful behavior. As for swearing, I'll write an occasional h-word and d-word, on a few rare occasions I've used less refined terms for body function #1 and the posterior. If I want to imply something stronger, I'll write "he swore," or "she used words he didn't know she knew." something like that. I can't bring myself to depict a character using the word "god" in vain (even though I write in worlds with different gods). Thu, 10 Nov 2011 16:54:10 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_626542 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_626542 moonmomma [quote]lol. Pain and suffering does tend to round things out a bit. :)[/quote] lol, I make my characters *earn* their happy endings the hard way. bwahahahahaha. Thu, 10 Nov 2011 16:57:00 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_626596 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_626596 moonmomma Had my Activity Day Girls activity last night, today I feel like I had a fight with a couple of steamrollers and lost. I love these girls, but they're a bit rambunctious. We made graham cracker houses, like gingerbread houses but with graham crackers. We had a whole bunch of graham crackers left over from last year when the Elders Quorum had to provide s'mores for the fathers and sons campout (they call it something different now, I guess). Since my husband is Elders Quorum President, we got stuck with the leftovers, and they've been in my cupboard for a year and a half. I was hoping we'd use all of them up last night, but we didn't. :( I don't want to eat them, they expired last December. Anyway, having a hard time focusing on writing today. Had one good session, going to try for another. Thu, 10 Nov 2011 17:01:12 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_626690 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_626690 larelmian My mom said the exact same thing. Thu, 10 Nov 2011 17:26:10 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_627117 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_627117 pianogirl101 Good morning all. I'm popping on before I chain myself to the desk and force myself to catch up to my word goal. I was so miserable yesterday and hubby had lots of homework to do on top of that so I got nothing done. I'm still feeling pretty miserable, but I can manage. Maybe I'll have a fever-induced stroke of 10K word genius! lol. Talk to you all later and have a wonderful, wordy Saturday! :) Sat, 12 Nov 2011 08:41:39 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_656643 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=7#forum_thread_comment_656643 topsecret About the swearing/cussing in your novels: does &amp;%$# count as a word? Sat, 12 Nov 2011 22:54:38 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_669999 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_669999 topsecret I'm just starting a new job. Somehow I don't think that will be good for my wordcount. Especially since it's data entry so that makes for a lot of typing in a day. I knew I should have focused more on world building last month. Then I wouldn't be so behind now, and maybe I could have even gotten ahead. BYU's winning. By a whole lot. And the commercial just ended so I'm going. Sat, 12 Nov 2011 22:59:35 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_670087 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_670087 Sunflakes Well, whatever it is, my computer thinks it's a swear word -- it filtered it. Sun, 13 Nov 2011 16:21:44 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_679727 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_679727 topsecret How did it do that? Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:29:54 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_681743 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_681743 pianogirl101 Good luck with the new job, top secret! And good luck on keeping your writing going! :) I hope that everything works out well for you! Today has been long and pretty sad. I went to church only to be sent home again. I felt like a kid in school. :P Tomorrow I really hope I'm feeling better so I can really catch up to where I want to be. I'm up on the site's word goal, but way behind on my own goal. Blech! Anyway, hope you all had a beautiful Sabbath! I'm going to go get some chores done so that tomorrow I can just focus on write - write - writing! :) Good night! :) Sun, 13 Nov 2011 19:35:40 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_682954 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_682954 Sunflakes Magic. My computer has this filter, which automatically blocks swear words, among other things. Sun, 13 Nov 2011 20:54:04 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_684270 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_684270 topsecret So if there is a swear word in text, does it remove it completely or replace it with symbols or what? Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:50:16 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_685331 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_685331 topsecret And I guess I'll tell you, what I typed was ampersand, percentage sign, dollar sign, number/pound sign. Just so you don't think I go around posting random filthy words. Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:53:12 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_685386 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_685386 aj chase how's everyone doing? i spent some time thinking about it and eventually had to commit to edits for something else so i'm not going to be doing nano this year. but it was a hard decision lol. i really wanted to write this book. i mean, i will write it. just when i finish rewrites on something else. Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:51:18 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_691188 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_691188 studentofrhythm aj, I can sympathize. I'm frantically trying to finish early so that I can also finish two pieces of professional writing due this month. Hope you feel better soon, pianogirl. Mon, 14 Nov 2011 12:17:06 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_693415 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_693415 Sunflakes Ha ha! Lol. I totally thought that was my computer's filter. That's awesome. ^^ Mon, 14 Nov 2011 14:16:38 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_695027 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_695027 aj chase yes, sadly money comes first haha. Mon, 14 Nov 2011 23:07:15 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_703616 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_703616 pianogirl101 Good morning everyone! Studentofrhythm - I am feeling somewhat better. The cold seems to have left my brain at any rate so I can at least think like a semi-intelligent human being. :) I still sound awful, but i'm sure eventually it will go away. It can't last forever! :) aj - Good luck with your rewrites! I hope that they go well and that soon you can be working on your new project! :) Yesterday I managed to scrape by with my 2000 word goal but I didn't get much beyond that. Mostly because yesterday was crazy busy! I had my visiting teachers coming at noon and my dear, sweet son decided to throw his toy box around scattering toys everywhere and if that wasn't enough, pulled out my entire DVD collection and scattered that in and amongst the toys. Needless to say, I had a bit of a mess to clean up! After my visiting teachers came, I went visiting teaching. Maybe it was a bad idea for me to do the lesson since I sounded like a dying toad. :) Oh well, I can at least say I did it this month which is more than I can say about previous months. (Though in my defense I didn't have a list) So I'm now putting the baby down for a nap and going to have some awesome word sprints and make it to 30K by bedtime tonight! Have a wonderful day everyone and happy writing (rewriting)! :) Tue, 15 Nov 2011 08:17:41 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_707628 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_707628 studentofrhythm Yes, it's not really about the toys, it's something about how they look scattered all over the floor. Even at three, my daughter's idea of "playing with" her toys is slow to evolve away from scattering them and leaving them in the way of feet. Tue, 15 Nov 2011 13:32:07 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_711380 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_711380 Ladypamela I'm sorry, aj. Tough choice. I had to back out of Camp Nano; not for financial reasons but my health (seasonal allergies. Antihistamine and creativity don't mix!). I was sad. Anyway, at least you are still working with words this month! So yay! Tue, 15 Nov 2011 16:33:06 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_714379 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_714379 pianogirl101 lol. I know. I got everything cleaned up and even had him asleep for a while when they were here. But then, he woke up and the mess-making ensued. It didn't help that he had a really cute 14 month old helping him out. That just made it faster. At that point, I gave up! :) Luckily I've found that I've had the great blessing of having very understanding visiting teachers. ;) Well, I'm a little over halfway to my goal of 6,000 words for the day. Getting ready to head over to Cub Scouts and then I'll do the last 2500 as soon as I get home; provided little guy will let me. He's been a little cranky today, but here's hoping that a bottle and nap will be all that I need to get the writing done that I need and want to do! :) Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:32:45 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_715366 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_715366 aj chase my son used to like to run through and grab all the books off our bookcase and throw them on the ground. he did it every day. in the end i decided to just let him do it because it took him at least half an hour to get it all off and about ten minutes for me to clean it up lol life is give and take. Wed, 16 Nov 2011 09:40:11 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_724659 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_724659 larelmian Just got past the halfway point. Maybe today I'll catch up on the word count. Wed, 16 Nov 2011 10:06:00 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_724962 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_724962 phoenixgirrl I just found this group, how wonderful to see fellow LDS writers! I guessed from a few peoples' posts in other forums, but I hadn't seen the writing clubs forum previously. I'm a convert (3 years), and a single mom with 3 girls (13, 11. 8). The older two signed up for the YWP, but they have too much school work (plus church activities) to actually keep up, sadly. Maybe another time. I'm writing a book in which the main character is Mormon, and when I go back and edit it I'll have to see if I put in too many Mormon-centric details. But that's for December. Right now I need to actually get my characters to the next point in the story - the lead up has taken 30k... Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:50:10 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_733741 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_733741 Ladypamela Welcome, phoenixgirrl! It is awesome to have a group of LDS writers to hang out with! I have 4 kids, myself. The oldest two are serving missions, and the two youngest are 12 and 9. One girl (brand new Beehive) and three boys. Married to my best friend for coming up on 23 years! My book this year is fantasy (as always), starring my family as characters. Well, it started out that way. The characters have become their own selves, and at this point bear little resemblance to the real people they were based on. But that's a good thing! Good luck, and glad you found your way here! Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:41:55 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_739465 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_739465 moonmomma thanks :) Sat, 19 Nov 2011 17:37:59 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_771227 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=6#forum_thread_comment_771227 moonmomma hi, phoenixgirrl! That's cool that your daughters are interested in writing, even if they didn't have time for it this year. I know my older son, who is 22, wants to do it sometime, but school and work have been keeping him busy. My younger one, 15, has a lot of stories to tell, but he's doesn't really feel like writing them. Sat, 19 Nov 2011 17:46:55 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_771338 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_771338 moonmomma My characters have spent the last 1,000 words or so having a philosophical discussion about free will vs. the greater good of society. O.o Actually, that's a major theme of my novel, as it's turning out. On the subject of swearing: when my youngest brother was on his mission (in the Phillippines, about 18-19 years ago), he used to make cassette tapes and send them home to us, and he made one while he was trying to cook supper and every other word was "fetch." Our dad really got after him for swearing on his mission, lol. Sat, 19 Nov 2011 18:03:36 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_771578 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_771578 Sunflakes Oh, man. If "fetch" is a swear word, I'm screwed. Sun, 20 Nov 2011 16:36:57 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_783548 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_783548 lhenriksen I always thought that would make a fun story. Mon, 21 Nov 2011 15:32:45 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_795336 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_795336 lhenriksen I haven't read the whole thread, but I've noticed there's been some discussion on how to write real, relevant, moral fiction. I don't know if anyone's posted http://www.nauvoo.com/library/card-talk.html Orson scott card discusses the problem of evil in fiction. My favorite: "The painful lessons are only beginning. As we grow older, we learn that people die, even when we love them very much. Friends that we counted on cheat us. Family members that we love hurt us. People we never harmed commit crimes against us. But we aren't always victims. It's sometimes a terrible discovery that we ourselves are the perpetrators of evil, but it's one we all make at some time or another. The world is often ugly, and uglier still is the realization that in our own small way we have darkened it for others, and for ourselves." I write characters who swear. I write characters who kill people. I write characters who make all manner of questionable moral decisions. I think that is acceptable, even necessary. I think the real danger comes in when these flawed characters continue to make bad choices and there is never a price to pay for them. That's just unrealistic and to my mind unethical. Thoughts? Mon, 21 Nov 2011 15:51:57 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_795605 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_795605 Lehcarjt [quote=lhenriksen] Thoughts? [/quote] I just saw that article for the first time recently (from here? I can't remember.). Fabulous! If I look at my favorite books, they all have deeply flawed characters. It's the flaw that makes them interesting. (or another way to say it is that at one time or another we all chose evil.) It's the moment they make the wrong choice that I am drawn to them the most. I'm rereading (for the millionth time) Margaret Weis's Star of the Guardian series. The character I am drawn to the most (and gets me to reread and reread) opens the book by killing a man in cold blood for selfish reasons. He goes on to threaten, maim, and kill thousands of others. And yet when I understand what is driving him, I love him (well, you know what I mean) and want to see him through to the end. I think as members of the church we are taught that flaws and 'sins' are unacceptable (and a lot of people work very hard to hide theirs). When we 'let our light shine' we'd better not be illuminating flaws. I think this feeling comes through in a lot of LDS art. But this also creates a disconnect with reality (which I find boring - and sometimes emotionally dishonest). It's struggling with flaws/sins/evil that makes us human. That's what I love about books and what I should try harder for in my book. (Okay, off my soapbox now. But you did ask... ~Grin. And OSC is brilliant.) Mon, 21 Nov 2011 18:00:13 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_797156 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_797156 Sunflakes I definitely agree with everything you said here. I read that essay by Card, and it helped me deal with this problem a lot. If I recall correctly, it wasn't just about bad characters doing bad things, it was about good characters doing bad things. In my opinion, a book is just boring if all the problems come from outside forces, things the character couldn't have helped, or from mistakes the character made when he didn't even mean to -- if he thought he was doing the right thing or it was only an accident or something. In order for a character to be realistic, they have to have flaws, and they have to make serious mistakes that hurt themselves and others. That's how they grow and develop. Now, I'm not saying that the stripling-warrior characters are all Mary-Sues. And I'm also not saying that characters that have no inhibitions, live today to die tomorrow, eat drink and be merry and then don't have any STDs or liver problems later on are what you should be shooting for. As authors, we need to find the proper balance between perfect and overly flawed. A characters mistakes need to be exploited and shown as what they are -- mistakes. Whatever it is they do wrong, it can't be glossed over as if it doesn't matter. It needs to be shown to damage themselves and others. When evil is used to show the truth, to show that all human beings are flawed, and to show that these evils are not in the right, then it is not being used evilly. It is being used to underline moral truths, and when that is what it is doing, it is good. So, in my opinion, there's nothing wrong with creating a character who does things we know to be morally wrong, even in full knowledge of this, as long as what they do is not shown to be morally right. The consequences for their actions must be shown in full force, otherwise it is useless. Mon, 21 Nov 2011 18:09:40 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_797256 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_797256 Lehcarjt Makes me wonder if it's not that the Stripling Warriors were Mary-Sues, but that our perception of their story is Mary-Sueish because we see so little of it. Or we see it only in one dimension. The Stripling Warriors would have been people with flaws too. To bring the argument into a more modern situation, Joseph Smith had plenty of flaws and made some terrible choices (not to mention Brigham Young). I wish sometimes we studied them in their entireties rather than the romanticized versions. One of my favorite books (going back to Orson Scott Card) is Speaker for the Dead - where funeral services are about a person's life truths. Official church history skips those truths and they have SO much to teach us. I feel like romanticizing our own history has led to this idea that there was never anything but roses and rainbows. And thus to be faithful members of the church we must have nothing but roses and rainbows in us. When in truth that ideology works in complete opposition to why Adam and Eve could only chose the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil instead of the Tree of Life. I also think you are right about the consequences of bad choices. It is somehow emotionally dishonest to me to portray a character making choices, but then not show the consequences. (Which was one of my smaller complaints against Meyer's Breaking Dawn (the book, I'd have to have a gun to my head to make me see the movie). Bella made a choice to become a murdered to have Edward, but then once she made her choice, the 'become a murderer' consequence disappeared.) Mon, 21 Nov 2011 18:56:55 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_797763 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_797763 larelmian I try to do what's right, but does that mean I always make right choices? Don't let my emotions get the better of me? Fail at things? Make mistakes? Or what if you don't know what the right choice is? What if two people disagree on what to do in a certain situation? I want to read, and more especially write, about characters who try to do what's right. At least try. Even if they fail. One of my more interesting story ideas involves two people who are both good, but one is a law enforcer and the other is leading an underground group helping runaways. They clash. They're each other's antagonists. And yet, they are both good. And each thinks he is right. I also have characters who disagree on where to draw the line. For example, in last year's fantasy story, N wanted nothing to do with thieves; he really doesn't like them. E made an agreement with a gang of thieves, and N freaked out. E is a sworn pacifist, so she doesn't like violence. She's shocked when N hits people and threatens them. N thinks this is totally justified, since the one he hit was beating on his friend. Does that make sense? Mon, 21 Nov 2011 22:03:55 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_799975 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_799975 moonmomma My son the RM, who doesn't believe in holding back on how he feels about things, doesn't even bother with the euphemisms. O.o At least he doesn't take the Lord's name in vain. To an extent, I can handle hearing the more vulgar terms for various bodily functions, but using the Lord's name in vain bothers me more. I've thought about writing a guide to "How to swear like a Mormon." Including Dang, Darn (for the very daring), classic f-word euphemisms Fetch, Fudge, and Flip, and the ever-popular Oh My Heck. And I'm especially fond of H-E-double-hockey-sticks. Mon, 21 Nov 2011 22:31:03 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_800316 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_800316 lhenriksen [quote=Lehcarjt] When we 'let our light shine' we'd better not be illuminating flaws. I think this feeling comes through in a lot of LDS art. But this also creates a disconnect with reality (which I find boring - and sometimes emotionally dishonest). [/quote] Abslutely. That's why I allow my faith to influence my writing, but I don't write church related fiction. (Not that church fiction is all bad, it's just sometimes difficult for me to connect to.) Tue, 22 Nov 2011 08:16:57 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_803574 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_803574 Sunflakes I respect that. It's just not my way. I prefer exploring human faults of intention as well as accident or confusion. About your examples, I also love exploring that -- when both sides could be seen as justified, and both have reasons to think what they're doing is right, while maybe they're both right (or both wrong, as I prefer ^^). Or there is not right or wrong, just different opinions. And yes, you're last example makes sense. Reminds me of this other family I knew when I was a kid. They were super concerned about and freaked out by violence, but they were totally chill with ghosts and supernatural freaky stuff like that, while we, who couldn't care one way or another about people fighting and killing each other, hated the whole ghosty zombie stuff. Tue, 22 Nov 2011 18:48:28 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_810115 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_810115 Dizappearingirl I really should explore this website more fully. I didn't realize there was a forum for us! How fun is that? Well, hello! I'm Dizappearingirl, feel free to shorten it to Dizgirl. This is my second year doing NaNo but I didn't get very far last year (This year I am determined to win! &gt;:D) . I'm writing a fantasy this year so there won't be anything really LDS related, but I'm sure it will influence my writing in one way or another. -Dizgirl Wed, 23 Nov 2011 02:10:38 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_815287 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_815287 lhenriksen I had a deep gradual realization when I started reading books where the protagonists intentionally did wrong things for the wrong reasons. I felt like "that's me" and it made their falls and redemptions much more powerful. It's harder for me to relate to books where the protagonists do wrong things but always with good intentions, sometimes it feels like the author is pulling punches that way. Wed, 23 Nov 2011 18:16:09 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_823672 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_823672 larelmian I finished my story. Yea! I ended with a nice, happy family getting together. And all four elegant, well-bred young ladies chucking pillows across the room. They say right what you know. I know big, crazy families. And thankfully I finished my story before my adorable nephews came over. I got some great pictures of them playing in the Christmas tree box. Wed, 23 Nov 2011 20:29:16 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_825206 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_825206 lhenriksen Yay for finishing your story just in time for the holidays! Thu, 24 Nov 2011 12:42:31 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_831526 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_831526 studentofrhythm Well, interesting to see all the discussion lately. This week I had my two MCs break their mutual vow of chastity and immediately break up as a result. It's interesting: I don't think I intended this on purpose, but my characters' breaking of moral covenants (even though they're not LDS) has destroyed what was shaping up to be a beautiful and visionary life project . . . showing me that my conviction of some things is deeply woven into my soul's fabric. That suggests that I am safer than I might suspect on bad days. It was quite awkward writing the relationship-ending quasi-sex scene in a public write-in. But it was also quite liberating. And I still can't shake this faint notion that my MMC might get into the kind of discussion with his old gaming buddy recently returned from her mission that might lead to his conversion . . . but I haven't a clue about how I would write that, nor do I plan to. Maybe this is my own cop-out: I'll dare to write sex scenes but not spiritual conversions? Hmmm. Well, now that I've recovered from overeating and the in-laws will soon depart, I should at least hit 50K with no trouble by Tuesday, even if I don't completely finish. But after reading Brother Brandon's pep talk I will feel guilty if I don't tie up the story. Wasn't that a good pep talk? Blah blah blah over and out. Sat, 26 Nov 2011 23:21:23 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_859193 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_859193 Eran of Arcadia I agree - I think there is so much about the subjects of the Book of Mormon that we don't know, that I would like to. I had an Institute class on church history that took an honest look of some of the flaws of early church leaders, I think it was valuable. After all, since many outside the church will focus only on their flaws, it's no good to think that they either were perfect or were massive frauds. Sun, 27 Nov 2011 09:31:25 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_862240 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_862240 Lehcarjt Ha! I wish I could 'like' things here. Great post SoR. You made me chuckle. Sun, 27 Nov 2011 17:58:53 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_867463 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_867463 studentofrhythm Aw, you're sweet. Mon, 28 Nov 2011 12:18:54 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_875910 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_875910 pianogirl101 I promise I'll actually go back and read later. For now I'm just going to pop on and say hi so you all know I didn't die. :) I'm still pretty sick; haven't been able to get this bug clear of my lungs yet, so my writing has been pretty nonexistent the last week. I couldn't even fluff-write! lol. So today and tomorrow I'm going to try to get as close to 50K as I possibly can, but if I don't make it, life goes on. I hope that you each had a wonderful Thanksgiving! Tue, 29 Nov 2011 09:52:07 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_887061 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_887061 studentofrhythm Bummer! Hope you get better quickly. Tue, 29 Nov 2011 14:48:48 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_889807 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_889807 werekitty13 Woo, I found my people! Well, the ones that are more my people and not just random geeks writing books. Thu, 01 Dec 2011 18:36:26 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_918866 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_918866 werekitty13 Neither was I. I'm pleasantly surprised. Thu, 01 Dec 2011 19:12:58 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_919134 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_919134 werekitty13 I actually did. Conversion story. Also, sorry everyone, I'm joining the conversation kinda really really late. It's December. Thu, 01 Dec 2011 19:16:17 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_919158 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_919158 larelmian Ah, goody, another Mormon writer. Welcome, welcome. Glad you found us. :) My name's Emily, and I tend to stick around, even after November. It's fun to have someone on this site to talk to who'll get your obscure Book of Mormon references. (Hmm . . . getting the guard passed out drunk and then quietly rescuing the prisoners -- yeah, I totally stole that tactic from Moroni. Hey, it worked.) Thu, 01 Dec 2011 22:39:36 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_920642 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_920642 werekitty13 I honestly thought they only did that on Utah channels like BYUTV or KBYU. I was not aware that they put it on other channels as well. Thu, 01 Dec 2011 23:47:57 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_920958 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_920958 werekitty13 I haven't seen Sailor Moon in so long... It was one of the first anime I ever watched, hehe. Thu, 01 Dec 2011 23:50:11 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_920966 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_920966 werekitty13 Honestly, I say go for it. (You may have already.) Even if it's violent, nobody wants to read it, and it never sees the light of day, you should write what you want to write. I might very well read that book. (I have read some pretty violent books.) (I like parentheses.) Fri, 02 Dec 2011 00:22:59 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_921075 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_921075 topsecret Lucky for you, I noticed that several more comments were added and went looking for them all. Fri, 02 Dec 2011 01:13:47 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_921218 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_921218 topsecret They've got them playing in at least 7 different cities around the US and I think either somewhere in Australia or they will be introducing them there soon. The only specific cities I remember are New York and San Antonio. Fri, 02 Dec 2011 01:15:52 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_921222 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_921222 topsecret That reminds me that not too long ago I read about a Broadway play that was based on a story from the Book of Mormon, featuring Corianton and the harlot Isabel. It didn't last too long, though, and I got the impression most people had no idea that's where the story came from. Fri, 02 Dec 2011 01:19:17 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_921232 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_921232 moonmomma It's a lot of fun :) My big thing is the Nephrite/Naru (Nephlite/Molly) love story. If only he didn't die. Or if only he came back... *sigh* Fri, 02 Dec 2011 15:05:28 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_923919 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=2#forum_thread_comment_923919 moonmomma I read that part last night, and started laughing. how many times does that happen, where they get the bad guys drunk? At least twice, that I can think of. Fri, 02 Dec 2011 15:06:54 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_923921 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_923921 moonmomma hi, werekitty13, congrats on your win, nice to meet you. some of us stick around, more or less, in between NaNos. :) Fri, 02 Dec 2011 15:07:53 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_923924 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_923924 larelmian Well, this one was based more on Alma 55 than Mosiah 22. And that doesn't even count the time Laban was out partying with the Jerusalem elders. :) Fri, 02 Dec 2011 16:32:46 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_924327 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_924327 pianogirl101 Hello everyone. It's been a crazy couple of weeks. I'm doing better now; turns out I had bronchitis. (Really should learn to go to the doctor sooner.) I'm going to be continuing my novel as the months go on as well as revisiting a couple of older projects that I'm trying to polish up. Welcome to our newbies and hopefully I'll see some of you around in the months to come! :) Fri, 09 Dec 2011 14:29:23 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_956154 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_956154 pianogirl101 Hope everyone had an awesome New Year! :) Mon, 02 Jan 2012 11:23:04 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_1021537 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_1021537 larelmian My New Year's party was a small one -- me. My sister left for Utah earlier that day, another one had work, and my parents haven't gotten back from meeting grandbaby #11. So it was just me and some video games. Wish me luck. I'm applying for graduate school. Mon, 02 Jan 2012 16:48:18 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_1022780 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=8#forum_thread_comment_1022780 Eran of Arcadia Good luck on grad school! I will be finishing up (I hope) in the spring, and then entering (I hope) the workforce . . . Which means I can NaNo again in November! Tue, 03 Jan 2012 20:44:57 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=9#forum_thread_comment_1027705 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=9#forum_thread_comment_1027705 topsecret Luck! I'm working full time, looking for a new job, and helping compile this year's Nanoisms book. So I'm going to be pretty busy for the next little while. And New Years for me was watching Shop Around the Corner (which I got for Christmas) with my mom and sisters, then watching a couple episodes of bones, eating cheese and crackers and tortilla chips and salsa, and drinking sparking cider at midnight right before I dropped a rubber ball. I never quite got the excitement of watching the ball drop and figured it would be at least as fun to drop one myself. So I did. And it was. Sat, 14 Jan 2012 02:38:39 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=9#forum_thread_comment_1058705 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=9#forum_thread_comment_1058705 pianogirl101 Good luck, larelmian! :) Topsecret - Sounds fun! So I'm attempting the impossible right now; I'm trying to cut down my 239K novel to 150K so I can enter it in the Amazon Breakthrough Novel Award contest. So far I've been able to get under 200K, so that's at least a start. And with only a week left until people can start entering, I'm going a bit crazy trying to make sure I cut the word count down without sacrificing the integrity of the story. It's a challenge! Anyway, best of luck to all of you in all your endeavors! :) Mon, 16 Jan 2012 19:28:23 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=9#forum_thread_comment_1065927 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=9#forum_thread_comment_1065927 larelmian Thanks. Right now, I'm working on rewriting my epic again. Luckily, the main character is one of my all time favorites. He might be my all-time favorite, but Randy (the MC from my last project) is also way up there. Mon, 16 Jan 2012 19:50:50 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=9#forum_thread_comment_1066040 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=9#forum_thread_comment_1066040 topsecret pianogirl - Good luck! When does it have to be done? So my brother is on Jeopardy! this Friday. You should all watch. Wed, 18 Jan 2012 01:25:51 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=9#forum_thread_comment_1070128 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=9#forum_thread_comment_1070128 pianogirl101 Thanks Topsecret. :) The start date was Jan. 23 with a deadline of Feb. 5 and I got it in on Jan. 25th. :) Now it's just a waiting game. I am insanely nervous about the whole thing. But, at least I was able to get it whittled down to the right size and I think it's much better for it. I just hope that it can compete with the other entries and really stand out as a great story. Soon on CreateSpace the revisions will be up for sale which is exciting! :) Right now I'm really just hoping that I at least make it into the second round of the competition. I'll find out on February 23rd. Wish me luck! :) How are you all doing on everything? I've been away for a while, revising. I'm back to working on my NaNo novel since it didn't really go anywhere during November. Dang bronchitis. Next time I think I'll listen to my mom the first time she says I should go to the doctor rather than the fifth. :) But I've reread what I had written, cut some of it already because I'm not even sure why I wrote it. (I'm blaming the fever.) But it's starting to flow well again, so that's a big plus. I'm hoping to be able to steadily work on it and get it finished by June-ish. Just because I want to start on another one for Camp NaNo. :) Anyway, that's my life right now. Hope you're all doing great! :) Hugs! Thu, 09 Feb 2012 13:17:32 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=9#forum_thread_comment_1126393 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=9#forum_thread_comment_1126393 topsecret I'm doing okay. Being a little less productive than I want to be in my non-working hours, but considering that in order to really get everything done I want to I'd have no downtime, I'm not too bothered. Happy Valentine's Day! Mon, 13 Feb 2012 23:23:04 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=9#forum_thread_comment_1138285 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=9#forum_thread_comment_1138285 larelmian Hi. *waves* I'm still working on rewriting my epic fantasy (this has been a major project of mine for years). Some real-life drama keeps interfering, not to mention the job search. The travel-log chapter is rather boring . . . well especially compared to all the goblins and assassins I throw at them in the other chapters. So I'm working a new scene that includes forty goats and an eccentric relative. Tue, 14 Feb 2012 08:25:35 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=9#forum_thread_comment_1139000 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=9#forum_thread_comment_1139000 pianogirl101 Topsecret - I can certainly understand that problem. I have it often. And my little one-year-old encourages it every time he can! :) But I figure as long as I can at least say I did something I'll be happy. :) Larelmian - Travel chapters can be boring, but sometimes it's nice to have a little downtime in a novel. But, forty goats could certainly liven things up a little. ;) And eccentric relatives should be in all novels! :) Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:32:27 -0600 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=9#forum_thread_comment_1141588 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=9#forum_thread_comment_1141588 topsecret Happy Conference! Sun, 01 Apr 2012 02:30:54 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=9#forum_thread_comment_1252744 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=9#forum_thread_comment_1252744 topsecret How'd it go and how's it going? The contest and draft, respectively. Sun, 01 Apr 2012 02:33:14 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=9#forum_thread_comment_1252751 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=9#forum_thread_comment_1252751 larelmian Happy conference. So far, my favorite speaker has been Elder Holland - on the parable of the laborers in the vineyard, some working all day, some for only an hour. There's a lot in there, much of which I'd never considered. Elder Scott's talk on inspiration and revelation was quite moving, very applicable to me. Anyone else find one particularly good? Of course, they're all good, but did any stand out? Sun, 01 Apr 2012 08:19:10 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=9#forum_thread_comment_1253065 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=9#forum_thread_comment_1253065 topsecret I found myself really liking Elder Holland's, the end of Elder Eyring's, and President Monson's. I seem to have taken the most notes on Elder Ballard's. Mon, 02 Apr 2012 00:02:57 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=9#forum_thread_comment_1255047 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=9#forum_thread_comment_1255047 Ladypamela I loved the talk about the difference between the Gospel of Jesus Christ and the Church. He (can't remember who) did a great job. I have an inherent understanding of the difference between the two, but there are people who don't (some of whom are in my ward and have given my husband a hard time). I also loved the one sister who spoke of our task not just to teach our children the doctrines of the Gospel, but teach them to understand the doctrines. Great advice for parents, and something that we have spent our parenthood years doing. It's made such a difference in our kids' testimonies. The music was wonderful as always. 'Come thou font' is one of my favorite hymns. The MTC choir made me tear up because my second son is serving in Brazil right now. Seeing all those fresh young missionaries really brought my son to my remembrance. Mon, 02 Apr 2012 18:43:41 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=9#forum_thread_comment_1257514 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=9#forum_thread_comment_1257514 topsecret The difference between the Church and the Gospel was by Elder Hallstrom. I remember because one of my friends posted on facebook the link to watch the entire session right after it (the session) ended with a note as to the start time, then I posted the link to the individual talk in a comment when it was available. Mon, 02 Apr 2012 21:51:54 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=9#forum_thread_comment_1258152 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=9#forum_thread_comment_1258152 Ladypamela Thanks topsecret! :) Tue, 03 Apr 2012 11:57:14 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=9#forum_thread_comment_1259183 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=9#forum_thread_comment_1259183 topsecret A couple Easter videos, just because (sorry I forgot how to link) Sunday Will Come: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlc5RvmWN4s&amp;feature=share An Apostle's Easter Thoughts on Christ: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpFhS0dAduc&amp;feature=share Sun, 08 Apr 2012 09:59:33 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=9#forum_thread_comment_1273271 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=9#forum_thread_comment_1273271 UJHBnovelist Hi. I am Mormon. I am writing a novel which includes an opponent and 3 minor characters from the Book of Mormon. Mon, 09 Apr 2012 13:42:32 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_1275831 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_1275831 topsecret Hi! Thanks for stopping by! Which characters? Tue, 10 Apr 2012 01:14:43 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_1277758 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=1#forum_thread_comment_1277758 Eran of Arcadia I realize I am a little late to the party here, but I just wanted to say how amazing President Uchtdorf's talk was. I would say something about how I know lots of people who needed to hear it, but that would be rather missing the point I think. ;) Mon, 16 Apr 2012 20:30:40 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=9#forum_thread_comment_1295101 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=9#forum_thread_comment_1295101 topsecret This made me chuckle a bit on the inside. Tue, 17 Apr 2012 01:34:41 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=9#forum_thread_comment_1295724 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=9#forum_thread_comment_1295724 topsecret So I came home from work tonight and looked in the refrigerator to see if there was anything I wanted to eat. A 9x13 pan of enchiladas fell out and broke all over the floor. Then as we were cleaning up the cat of course wandered in, saw all the yummy food on the floor, and started trying to lick it up. Luckily we were able to get her to leave pretty quickly so I don't think she ingested any glass. But I didn't dare eat more than a couple crumbs worth. And it looked really good, too. Wed, 25 Apr 2012 23:30:06 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=9#forum_thread_comment_1320626 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=9#forum_thread_comment_1320626 Ladypamela Anyone planning on doing Camp Nanowrimo this year? I just signed up for June. I want to get the next draft of 'River Crossing' out before the kids are out of school. You? Wed, 09 May 2012 13:58:54 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=9#forum_thread_comment_1356160 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=9#forum_thread_comment_1356160 larelmian I haven't decided yet. I still want to get done with my epic fantasy novel, so I can market it. I might join as a Rebel, but it's really hard to keep track of the word count when you're editing. It really depends on where I am with that project. Wed, 09 May 2012 14:25:44 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=9#forum_thread_comment_1356200 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=9#forum_thread_comment_1356200 Ladypamela I wasn't going to at first, but my ultimate goal was to have it done by June 30, and I'm not as far as I'd hoped (ok, so I haven't really started!). So with that in mind... If I keep dinking around, and just outline my heart out in May, then I'll start the draft June 1. If I start sooner, then I'll be a rebel and keep going in June. Either way, I'm gonna get it done! As far as Aug Camp, probably not. I'm going to YW camp this year which is the first week of Aug. Then recovery, then getting the kids ready to start school at the end of Aug. Wed, 09 May 2012 16:19:52 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=10#forum_thread_comment_1356419 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=10#forum_thread_comment_1356419 topsecret I was planning to do at least one session and work on the second half of my 2010 novel which I never got around to finishing. But my life is in flux at the moment so we'll have to see where I am then. Thu, 10 May 2012 00:34:14 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=10#forum_thread_comment_1358034 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=10#forum_thread_comment_1358034 topsecret Happy Mother's Day to all you motherly types. Sun, 13 May 2012 22:25:30 -0500 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=10#forum_thread_comment_1367064 http://www.nanowrimo.org/en/forums/writing-groups-and-clubs/threads/872?page=10#forum_thread_comment_1367064