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Oct 30, 2009 - 22 06

I have a table calendar of forgotten english by Jeffrey Kacirk which I received as a prezzie last Xmas. There are some choice words in it for November. I'm going to play a little game and try to get each day's word into my work some where on that day more or less as a way of counting down to the finish [which I desperately hope I shall reach]. If anyone cares to join me the word for November 1st. is bank-full, which is 'said of a stream when full to the brim'. Let's wish ourselves a bank-full flow of words to the page.
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What a great term! Very evocative.

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The word for Nov 2 is scrunchins, which means remnants of food; broken meat; remnants of a feast

And although I don't think anybody else is following this forum the term for Nov 3 is 'Purser's Pound' which is the weight formerly used by the navy, by which the purser-an officer appointed by the lords of the admiralty to take charge of the provisions and slops of a ship of war, and to see that they were carefully distributed-retained an eighth for 'waste', and the men received only seven-eights of what was supplied by the government

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Nov 2, 2009 - 01 33

Great stuff, I'm a bit late to the party on this one , but I'll definitely try and use them,
seeing as the novel's set in an alternative universe version of Earth , words like these are very handy for me!

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Great idea. never thought of that. Just read your synopsis. Sounds exciting

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I'm not sure I'll use these words in my novel but I'm definitely interested in hearing about them.

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welcome TimManning. I'm spreading my obsession. the word for day four is 'latibulize' which means to retire into a den; [from] Latin latibulum, a hiding place. yum yum

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terminum wrote:
welcome TimManning. I'm spreading my obsession. the word for day four is 'latibulize' which means to retire into a den; [from] Latin latibulum, a hiding place. yum yum

Nice one! I'm really enjoying these, each day.

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This is fun! I've managed to incorporate each of your words into my text. The last one was a bit more difficult, so one of my characters likes researching strange words . . .

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I think this one is a beauty especially for November 5th.

'Backrackets'

and it means .......fireworks!

good huh?

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Nov 4, 2009 - 01 39

Yes, excellent - and so evocative.
Your wordcount is also excellent. Do you want to join any of the Word Wars?

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What a word war?

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Dublin is involved in Word Wards both within Ireland and as a region against British regions and against Harrisburg, Pensylvania.

Those who sign up for it (a) try to complete at least their 50K on time,and (b) try to clock up high word counts on behalf of their region. It's a stimulus t write, not just on your own behalf, but also on behalf of your region.

Take a look down through the threads and you will see information about the 'All Ireland' ; 'Britain and Ireland' and 'Harrisburg Pensylvania' wars.

If you want to play, just let me know which ones you would like to join and I shall slot you in, if I still can. I'm not sure what the closing dates aare for entry.

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I think I'll pass on the word war for this year. I'm sort of grappling with this plot and it's trying to wriggle in three different ways. I feel I can do without the 'responsibility' to other buddies while I tackle these demons. If I don't pass the finish post I'll feel bad for myself, and I don't want to let anybody else down. I know I'm being foolish here but my main competition is me and I want to focus on that game first. One day at a time, just me and the demon lethargy.

Now the word for the 6th. day is

Creave

I love this! It means to 'pilfer stealthfully'.It seems to combine the meanings of English slang 'crib' and Cheshire 'creem' to hide.

Oh and by the way this is the feast day of St. Leonard, the patron saint of thieves.
hahahahaha

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terminum wrote:
I think I'll pass on the word war for this year. I'm sort of grappling with this plot and it's trying to wriggle in three different ways. I feel I can do without the 'responsibility' to other buddies while I tackle these demons. If I don't pass the finish post I'll feel bad for myself, and I don't want to let anybody else down. I know I'm being foolish here but my main competition is me and I want to focus on that game first. One day at a time, just me and the demon lethargy.

Now the word for the 6th. day is

Creave

I love this! It means to 'pilfer stealthfully'.It seems to combine the meanings of English slang 'crib' and Cheshire 'creem' to hide.

Oh and by the way this is the feast day of St. Leonard, the patron saint of thieves.
hahahahaha

Fair enough on the Word War - maybe next year!

Creave. Interesting. I wonder does the term 'craven' derive?

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I wouldn't be at all surprised. On an earlier word: scrunchins wikipedia traced its roots to pork scratchings or vice versa

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And a fripper is a dealer in second-hand clothes, as O'Neill-Lane's English-Irish dictionary revealed to me; a dildurn is the English word for a bodhrán, meaning a device used for tossing grain in the air to allow the chaff to fly away.

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We'll all be communicating in oldee engrish afore we finished.

word for Saturday 7th. {my my a week gone by}
dorbel

A dull witted pedant; a foolish pretender to learning from Nicholas Dorbellus (c. 1400-1475), a professor of scholastic philosophy at Poitiers, and a follower of Duns Scotus, whose name gave us ---dunce!

I think a good 40-50 % of my characters are dorbels

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terminum wrote:
We'll all be communicating in oldee engrish afore we finished.

word for Saturday 7th. {my my a week gone by}
dorbel

A dull witted pedant; a foolish pretender to learning from Nicholas Dorbellus (c. 1400-1475), a professor of scholastic philosophy at Poitiers, and a follower of Duns Scotus, whose name gave us ---dunce!

I think a good 40-50 % of my characters are dorbels

That's OK. If they are pedants they talk a lot about nothing in particular. Lots and lots of words!

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My little book only gives one word for each weekend and dorbel is this weekend's word. In the spirit of attending to this forum everyday and marking down the days to Nov 30 therefore I offer this link.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870374000457451346310601210...

some might find it interesting

And here is a term for Nov 9: Carriage Folk: Gentry

it's the city of London Lord Mayor's Day!

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Quote:
And here is a term for Nov 9: Carriage Folk: Gentry

it's the city of London Lord Mayor's Day!

But I know that as an 'ordinary' term. Even understand the context. Ughhh. Must be showing my age!

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Not your age but your widely read and informed erudition! Good for you!

Now what about this: Urk
sounds like something from Star Wars doesn't it?

it means a small child or diminutive person. faries were formerly called URCHINS! Hah!

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terminum wrote:
Not your age but your widely read and informed erudition! Good for you!

Now what about this: Urk
sounds like something from Star Wars doesn't it?

it means a small child or diminutive person. faries were formerly called URCHINS! Hah!

The primary school my daughter attended referred to the Infant classes as the 'ninny-hammers'

I like 'urk'. It's the sort of inital sound some of them make when they are going around the place, hammer-and-tongs, bent on their own devices, on their hands and knees.

Fairies called 'urchins'? Old or middle English?

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Thomas Strenberg's Dialect and Folklore of Northamptonshire.

It be them folk in the shires don't ye know.
I strongly suspect that many of these words would have first emerged as middle english, but ahh Latin will be tiptoeing around in there somewhere.

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terminum wrote:
Thomas Strenberg's Dialect and Folklore of Northamptonshire.

It be them folk in the shires don't ye know.
I strongly suspect that many of these words would have first emerged as middle english, but ahh Latin will be tiptoeing around in there somewhere.

Can't really see the relationship between either 'urk' or 'urchin' with Latin.

Does sound right for middle English, though.

That reminds me. Must work out how to work 'urk' in . . .

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I was thinking about 'urbis' and the urchins associated with child beggars in cities but maybe it's a chicken and egg thing

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Nov 11
carptor for cutting of meat, persons of rank kept a carver, who was designated the scissor or carptor

Could be a horror story in that

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It's the 12th. of November and I celebrated last night still being in the race to 50K so this morning I am afflicted with a
'betterave'. no it's not a superior form of popular dancing it is in fact a drunkard's nose, a nose with "grog blossoms" or a "copper nose" such as is possessed by an "admiral of the red". There's one for ye!

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That one made me grin - does the calendar also give etymology?

Made me think straight away that it was a contraction of "Better have another one", your explanation made me picture a red-nosed Admiral having a terribly hung-over time on churning seas, and requiring another mug of grog to set himself to rights....

I'm probably wrong though ; )

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Oh and p.s. - way to go on the word count!

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terminum wrote:
It's the 12th. of November and I celebrated last night still being in the race to 50K so this morning I am afflicted with a
'betterave'. no it's not a superior form of popular dancing it is in fact a drunkard's nose, a nose with "grog blossoms" or a "copper nose" such as is possessed by an "admiral of the red". There's one for ye!

Also, I am told, the French word for 'beetroot'!

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