Not for my NaNo, but for a novella that I'm trying to finish by the end of the summer. I need methods of torture using little to no instruments, no methods of leaving and getting such instruments and with people keeping on eye on the torturer.
So, back story time! I have two people, a thrity-three year old male(Greg) and a thirty six year old female(Sarah). They're crime scene investigators and, for some reason that I have yet to figure out, went to a crime scene (a sleazy motel room) unaccompanied. They end up finding what they were looking for (a razor blade used to slit the throats of three hookers) but just as they are about to leave, the murder (A rich, up and coming lawyer named Alan Carthwrite) comes back and locks them in. He has a gun! Oh snap! for reasons yet to be known, they don't have thier own guns! Double snap!
So very long story short, Carthrite makes his demands over the cell phone, the police send a messenger up to give Carthrite a webcam so the police can talk to him "face-to-face" so to speak.
Which brings us to question #1- can a webcam operate if it's not hooked up to a computer? If it can't, what alternative methods could I use to give the police and Carthrite video feed with each other?
Alright, so police consider his demands and try and buy for time, but Greg ends up getting shot any way. (Leg or shoulder, havn't decided) Another long story short, Carthrite gives the police a deadline- three hours to meet his demands or Greg and Sarah both die. In the meantime, he tells them that every five minutes, he's going to do something *bad* to Sarah and/or Greg. Every hour that goes by without his demands being met, something *really* bad happens.
Which leads me to question # 2: What are some one the ways he could possibly torture them in a motel room with the police outside, but not outside the room he is in. Carthrite has a knife, the said razor blade and a screw driver (I have no idea where this came from) and I can't have anything permanent happen to my characters- i.e: mutilation, taking out an eyeball, stuff like that. Also, if this sparks anything, Sarah and Greg are lovers, so rape is pretty high up on the list of things for Carthrite to do.
If anyone could give me some insight on this, I'd be super- greatful. TIA for any anwsers!
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mai 1, 2008 - 19 17
A motel room has cords (phone, lamps, televisions) which can be manipulated for tying, or (if you want to alter the electrical wiring) electric shock. :-)
The bathroom comes in handy with doing faceplants into the toilet bowl.
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mai 1, 2008 - 21 36
Depending on the sleaziness of said motel room, there might actually be some wire hangers. I'm sure there's a lot of stuff you could think of to do with that.
Carthrite doesn't strike me as the type to care about his environs, so tearing up the mattress (with his razor blade) so he could get access to the springs would be interesting. Though why he would do that when he has a perfectly good screwdriver and razor blade, I have no idea. Maybe a frenzied state?
Fists are always fun, beat the snot out of someone. Snap some fingers (the pinky is particularly vulnerable and frighteningly easy to break).
Lightbulbs? Is there a TV in the room? Breaking glass is somehow satisfying so he may be able to do something that way.
Make 'em stare at the painting in the room? Then again...you did say you didn't want any permanent damage and some of those pics they've (motel owners) put on the wall would just drive someone insane. Eek!
Torn sheets and pillowcases for tying/gagging/choking.
If it's a less sleazy room (ie, no hangers) there may be a coffee pot, boiling water can raise quite a few nasty blisters (only thing permanent may be scarring).
Is there a fully stocked fridge in the room? Chances are there's stuff like orange juice, lemonade, liquor, all fun things to pour on an open wound--- or into orifices not intended for drinking purposes (use your imagination here).
Speaking of orifices, there's a lot of things that could uh...get stuffed, crammed, or otherwise get embedded into body parts of this nature. Curtain rods, a feather duster or plunger the maid might have left lying around, bottles (broken or intact...either way OWIE!)
All that said: WTF are cops doing without their guns? I've known off-duty and even retired police officers who ALWAYS had at least their favorite handgun holstered. IMO, you'd be better off with Carthrite surprising the crap out of them, making 'em strip (to assure all weapons have been tossed) rather than have them do something so out of character for ANY police officer outside of the newest rookie.
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mai 2, 2008 - 07 21
My cell phone has Video Share. I call somebody who also has it and we both can see each other while talking or pan around the room. Very simple to use. Is that what you are looking for?
BTW I like the light bulbs!
Arlene
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mai 2, 2008 - 19 39
Wow! Thanks! That was great! Thank so much!
The wire hangers would be good, around the neck, cutting off curculation in the arm and such. Not so sure about the matteress, simply because I can't find a purpose for it other than it would be a wicked awsome scene to write. I hadn't even thought of the finger breaking, which is suprising because it's usually the first torture method I use whilst writing scenes like this.
I didn't understand the lightbulbs/TV though. What would he use them for? Break them over one of thier heads or something? Cut them with the broken glass? This might just be me being an idiot, but I can't think of what you mean by that.
The torn sheets/ pillow case is great. Being gagged, or watching some one get choked/being choked yourself but not to death is a great mental tourture thing. The liquid in the wound thing is beyond brilliant, because I went back to the orginal description of the scene and I wrote a refridgerator into the room without even have a purpose.
The cramming/stuffing into the various orfices (great word) will definatly be in there. I have never thought of that before!
As for the not-having-the-gun scenario, I agree with you completely. i went back and read a few already planned chapters and them not having their guns makes absolutly NO sense at all. I like your scenrio better. The younger man is a fairly new CSI, so I can see him MAYBE forgetting his gun, but the female has been as CSI for at least ten years and she's a total control-freak, obsessive- compulsive, almost, so that definatly not something she would do. Thanks so much for the great insight!
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mai 3, 2008 - 06 12
Re: The lightbulbs and TV, I was thinking somewhere along the lines of breaking the glass and cutting them with it. Stripping wires for electroshock purposes would be good too. I don't think bashing them over the head with a TV would be practical (due to the average size of a set). If you'd want to do that, the bedside lamp or perhaps an urn, potted plant or even an ashtray would be better (but, given that rooms are either smoking or non in a majority of hotels nowadays, Carthrite, or whoever he may have been "entertaining" would have to be a smoker...if so, that leaves burn possibilities as well.)
That said, the whole "bashing over the head" thing would, IMO, be better for the "sudden surprise attack" (so Carthrite has one of them out of it, or at least dazed enough so he can take over the situation) or part of an escape plan between the CSI's (whether it actually works or not is up to you). As a torture method, I feel anyway, that it's kind of, well, lacking.
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mai 3, 2008 - 19 04
I don't think this has been mentioned, but what about the towel rack in the bathroom? It could be ripped off the wall and be used for bashing, or as it was put above, "for cramming into orfices." What about the wastepaper basket? Does it have a garbage sack? The garbage sack could be used for suffocating someone (I know you said no one would die, but I had to mention this). Soap or shampoo from those little bottles could be rubbed into eyes or wounds. If it is a hotel where the maids leave a little pad of paper with a pen, the pen could be used to stab, scrape, etc. Um.... Bible? Papercuts maybe? I'm running out of ideas now, hope this helps you in some way. : )
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mai 4, 2008 - 09 15
Oh, thank you! The towel rack is an excellent idea! My friend gave me an excellent idea a few days ago, and a towel rack is the exact thing I need to carry it out! I don't know if the soap and shampoo thing would work, because the hotel is pretty crappy and I doubt that the owner would bother to stock it with toilettries. There IS A Bible, and using the pages to give paper cuts is really great! I hate papercuts, they sting. Thanks so much for the ideas!
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mai 4, 2008 - 11 18
hmm, well, for uncomplicated tortures, I point out my absolute favorite one yet, the one from "casion royale"
for this, you will need:
-a cheap chair, the kind with a wicker or mesh seat, which you will cut off with the knife your guy has
-a rope with a big knot at the end. I assume your guy has some rope, since he tied them up.
le chiffre: I am not a fan of zeeze . . . compleecated tort-chairs . . .
*swings the rope around the side of the chair, hitting bond in the junk with the knot*
bond: GEEEEYAAAAGH!!!!
it works best if the victim is naked, and can be inflicted on both sexes
another painful yet very simple one is pistol-whipping. hurts quite a lot and won't leave permanent damage.
the electricity thing is good, as is the orifice idea everyone likes so much, but wouldn't it be better to combine them?
another thing many torturers seem to forget is that if you tie rope around an area of the body, cutting off circulation, the affected area gets hypersensitive for a few minutes before sensation is lost. a few ideas include:
-tying a bracelet-like loop around the upper wrist or forearm you you can do nasty stuff to the palm of the hand (which is one of the most sensitive AND durable area of the human body, perfect for torture) also, that spot on the wrist where people test the temperature of baby formula. it's extremely sensitive
-tying an X or figure 8 around the breasts (note: this can work for greg, too) followed by clothespins, electrical shock with stripped wiring, or ice cubes (much worse than it sounds)
-tying an anklet-like loop around the ankle followed by whatever torture you can think of to inflict on the soles of the feet or the spaces between the toes. again, sensitive areas.
hairsprayer blowtorch. all you need is any kind of aerosal (febreeze, oven cleaner, hairspray, there's sure to be something like that under the bathroom sink) and a lighter. (which fictional characters always seem to carry, whether or not they smoke) just be sure to keep it to first degree burns if you don't want lasting damage.
broken glass is very nasty, and worse than a knife because of its unusual shape, he can get some by smashing the glass in a picture frame (there has to be at least one in even a cheap hotel room) this is a good follow up to the circulation thing, and have him to remember to use shallow cuts, so the victim stays conscious.
that's all that I can really think of that hasn't been said already, i like the ingenuity that everyone's been showing.
except forcing them to stare at the picture on the wall. that's too cruel!
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mai 4, 2008 - 18 53
Oh jeez, those were all bee-yond great! I love how much people have contributed to this thread! All the suggestions are great.
I remember that scene from Casino Royale! That was such a great part, even if it was excruciatingly painful for poor James.
Electraically zapping them with rods that are simultaneously being crammed into very sensitive area! That is almost too cruel, but that scene would be so wicked to write!
Pistol whipping? I'm afraid that I'm not familiar with the practice. What is it? Like, whipping the pistol at them, or something? *facepalms* This is probably going to turn out to be one of those things that I should know from reading as many horror novels as I do.
All that cutting-off-the circulation stuff sounds wicked and, as a plus, usually, if you lose feeling in your arm/leg/body part, it's REALLY hard to move it, so the methods of torture could double as a way to keep them in the room.
Oh, gosh, that hairspray blow torch is so sadistic it's horrible, but EXACTLY what I was looking for. I read this wiki about how a form of mental torture is setting the tips of a person's hair on fire and letting it burn till the flame is *thisclose* to the person's scalp, then snuffing it out and repeating it. Even better if the lock of hair in question is near the persons face or neck.
The cutting of circulation and cutting the numb body part with shallow cuts both go hand in hand. Absolutly brilliant.
And, in closing, I agree. Staring at those hideous painting on the motel walls is just way more mental and emotional anguish than I really need my people to go through.
Thank so much for all the great suggestions!
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mai 5, 2008 - 07 23
Pistol Whipping=The art/method of taking a gun by the barrel (a handgun/pistol is better for this than say...a shotgun) and beating the snot out of someone with the other end (sorry, I can't remember the term for the "other end" right now).
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mai 5, 2008 - 14 55
the other end of a gun is called the butt.
pistol whipping can also be administered while holding the gun normally and striking the victim with the bottom of the butt end of the gun (the area slammed on a table or hard surface when baning in a cartridge)
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mai 5, 2008 - 15 07
I remember that scene from Casino Royale! That was such a great part, even if it was excruciatingly painful for poor James.
Electraically zapping them with rods that are simultaneously being crammed into very sensitive area! That is almost too cruel, but that scene would be so wicked to write!
Pistol whipping? I'm afraid that I'm not familiar with the practice. What is it? Like, whipping the pistol at them, or something? *facepalms* This is probably going to turn out to be one of those things that I should know from reading as many horror novels as I do.
All that cutting-off-the circulation stuff sounds wicked and, as a plus, usually, if you lose feeling in your arm/leg/body part, it's REALLY hard to move it, so the methods of torture could double as a way to keep them in the room.
Oh, gosh, that hairspray blow torch is so sadistic it's horrible, but EXACTLY what I was looking for. I read this wiki about how a form of mental torture is setting the tips of a person's hair on fire and letting it burn till the flame is *thisclose* to the person's scalp, then snuffing it out and repeating it. Even better if the lock of hair in question is near the persons face or neck.
The cutting of circulation and cutting the numb body part with shallow cuts both go hand in hand. Absolutly brilliant.
And, in closing, I agree. Staring at those hideous painting on the motel walls is just way more mental and emotional anguish than I really need my people to go through.
Thank so much for all the great suggestions!
I'm glad you liked the suggestions, and your response gave me a few more ideas.
"Oh, gosh, that hairspray blow torch is so sadistic it's horrible, but EXACTLY what I was looking for. I read this wiki about how a form of mental torture is setting the tips of a person's hair on fire and letting it burn till the flame is *thisclose* to the person's scalp, then snuffing it out and repeating it. Even better if the lock of hair in question is near the persons face or neck."
yes, it is horribly sadistic, but remember to give your baddie lighning-quick reflexes if you don't want any permanent damage to greg or sarah. if a follicle is burned, it never gets better and hair won't grow there anymore. or, also, instead of the face and neck, it could be inflicted on other, more sensitive areas.
"Electraically zapping them with rods that are simultaneously being crammed into very sensitive area! That is almost too cruel, but that scene would be so wicked to write!"
I thought that was inspired, and I'm glad you think so too! :)
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mai 11, 2008 - 11 50
I'm surprised nobody has thought of the bathroom. Is there a sink/toilet/bathtub? Waterboarding is always a good one....
Tie one person up and have the other person watch the torturing, then address the tied up person and say 'its gonna be worse for you!'
I like the others, especially the elecric shock ones
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mai 21, 2008 - 13 27
No idea if these have been mentioned yet, I didnt quite read the entire topic =X
And these ideas are probably quite sadistic in nature.. so they may or may not fit your character.
- blunt object; he has a gun.. so that could be used too, think smashing (body) parts..
Fingers, toes, knee's, ellbows, hands, heads, shoulders, ribs and perhaps for males the worst.. the family jewels.
- water; perhaps not quite an obvious one... and takes some more time, but you can do some REALLY nasty things with it. Taking the showerhead for instance, and jamming it in a orifice (yeah, I'm using the ambiguous term =P all openings can be nasty when heavily flooding it with water.. some just more obvious and/or bad than others)..
- poking eyes out; easy... very effective.
- snapping body parts. Snap a leg.. arm... bonus points if you can make the bone poke out?
- putting out cigarettes or matches on their skin (or other parts.. eyes? hair? ears?.... nose!?)
- needles / knifes / whatever.. you know, you need a place to store em.. why not in the victims? =P
possible to electrocute them using a pair of metal 'prikkers' that have been stored in em.
- running em dry; as in.. make them bleed and well... make it so it keeps bleeding
Thats it for my ideas.
PS: a webcam needs a laptop or other type of computer.
They may or may not give a laptop to go with the webcam?
Other than that, ... you could just say there is a webcam that fits your requirements available for law enforcement =\
It is currently technologically feasible to make them, so I don't see why you can't fake it.