Please introduce yourself to the area!
Name:
Novel Title: (if unknown please let us know)
Years doing NaNo:
Favorite flavor of ice cream:
1 interesting fact about you:
Would you be able to participate in a Kick-Off held on Oct 27 (Monday) between the hours of 5-9 at all? If you can make it for any portion of the kick-off, please state this. Also, if unable/able to make the Oct 27th would you participate in a Oct 31st Write-In between the hours of 11:00pm-2am the next morning?
Synopsis of your novel: (Just a little information to tease our senses
is always good, be as descriptive or not as you prefer.)
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To lose someone you love is to alter your life for ever. You don't get over it because 'it' is the person you loved. The pain stops, there are new people, but the gap never closes. How could it? The particularness of someone who mattered enough to grieve
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oct. 2, 2008 - 23 16
Name: Lyndsey
Novel Title: The Longest Day (working title)
Years doing NaNo: 5
Favorite flavor of ice cream: Raspberry Sorbet or Rocky Road
1 interesting fact about you: I can write backward
Will be able to participate in kick-off on either the 27th of October, or the 31st for a combo kick-off/write-in.
Synopsis of novel:
Shoot, I don't know how to explain it.
It will be in multiple parts so...
I guess I'll talk about my favorite part so far (no this is not a book
about religion it's a fantasy) When Sodom and Gamorrah were condemned
into hell God cast the cities into rubble. But two women survived, only
by the curse of Lucifer. He damned them (or saved them as he would have
called it) to eternal life living off each mortal blood. The woman were
lovers, and should have died with the rest of the masses, however in
their haste to be with each other they damned themselves to a much less
desirous fate.
I guess that's as far as I'll explain at the moment. Still working on
----------some quirks.
To lose someone you love is to alter your life for ever. You don't get over it because 'it' is the person you loved. The pain stops, there are new people, but the gap never closes. How could it? The particularness of someone who mattered enough to grieve
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oct. 2, 2008 - 23 18
Name: Nancy
Novel title: Anyone have a good idea for a Pride and Prejudice
re-write? I'd love to have a clever title by November 1.
Years doing NaNo: 2003-06, 2008. I call this 5 1/2 though, 'cause I was
all prepped last year and then had to put it aside.
Favorite flavor of ice cream: Really good chocolate, like Haagen Dazs
or something.
1 Interesting Fact: I love penguins
Synopsis of my novel: Pride and Prejudice from Darcy's perspective
PS: Hey look Lynds! I got a link to our calendar in the header!
Apparently, embed isn't working. So guys, clicky on the link that says
Calendar of Vancouver events or some such thing, and you'll see what
we've got lined up so far. :)
Huh. The calendar link isn't working now, and I really have to go to bed. I'll mess with it tomorrow.
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oct. 2, 2008 - 23 54
Name: V. Hope Nickel
Novel Title: Unknown
Years: 2003-2005, 2007
Ice Cream: Cookie Dough, Peppermint, or Strawberry Cheesecake
Fact: I once had my skirt fall down around my ankles in front of a group of people at a convention. Well, you said interesting!
I would not be able to participate- I'd have school early in the morning and long bus rides. If the party was more like 3 or 4pm that would be easier.
Novel: I haven't decided yet, I'm winging it.
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oct. 3, 2008 - 09 52
Parties are almost always in the evenings. Write-ins are throughout the day, depending on the availability of the host, but to make parties accessible to the broadest group of Wrimos, they're in the evening. We're looking at 7ish on Monday the 27th, and then a party/midnight write-in late night on Halloween.
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oct. 3, 2008 - 09 54
I actually did post this in the Kick-Off thread, if you guys want further information.
----------To lose someone you love is to alter your life for ever. You don't get over it because 'it' is the person you loved. The pain stops, there are new people, but the gap never closes. How could it? The particularness of someone who mattered enough to grieve
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oct. 3, 2008 - 11 20
Name: Amara
----------Novel Title: Haven't decided on one yet
Years doing NaNo: 2007
Favorite flavor of ice cream: Peppermint Candy
1 interesting fact about you: I almost went to Space Camp when I was a kid.
Would you be able to participate in a Kick-Off held on Oct 27 (Monday) between the hours of 5-9 at all? If you can make it for any portion of the kick-off, please state this. Also, if unable/able to make the Oct 27th would you participate in a Oct 31st Write-In between the hours of 11:00pm-2am the next morning? I honestly have no idea.
Synopsis of your novel: A "zombie" story that focuses on our ridiculous obsession with being politically / ethically "correct" in times of peril & the aftermath. I promise it's more exciting than it sounds :P
NaNo 2007: Coast Starlight 11 (incomplete)
NaNo 2008: Speakeasy
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oct. 3, 2008 - 15 26
Name: Alex
Novel Title: Unknown at this time
Years doing NaNo: I'm a wittle newbie
Favorite flavor of ice cream: Ooooo...Chocolate chip mint
1 interesting fact about you: I am a chocolate addict :D
Would you be able to participate in a Kick-Off held on Oct 27 (Monday) between the hours of 5-9 at all? If you can make it for any portion of the kick-off, please state this. Also, if unable/able to make the Oct 27th would you participate in a Oct 31st Write-In between the hours of 11:00pm-2am the next morning? I might not be able to because I don't trust info that comes from the internet much anymore XDDD
Synopsis of your novel: Not telling you...its a wittle secret <:3
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oct. 3, 2008 - 15 50
Name: Lauren
Novel Title (if unknown please let us know): Genoa (working title)
Years doing NaNo: Since 2005 - but I have yet to finish. It seems that every year something happens and I had to put Nano aside. :P
Favorite flavor of ice cream: plain jane Vanilla or Ben & Jerry's Phish Phood
1 interesting fact about you: I'm a third-generation spelling bee winner, but I have only gone so far as county
Would you be able to participate in a Kick-Off held on Oct 27 (Monday) between the hours of 5-9 at all? If you can make it for any portion of the kick-off, please state this. I might be able to, but I'm not sure yet.
Also, if unable/able to make the Oct 27th would you participate in a Oct 31st Write-In between the hours of 11:00pm-2am the next morning? That depends on whether or not my friends are throwing their Halloween party.
Synopsis of your novel: It's a literary novel about two sisters with opposing personalities and how they each escape their mother's manipulations in their lives. It will be told in first person from Genoa's perspective.
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oct. 3, 2008 - 15 53
Synopsis of novel:
Shoot, I don't know how to explain it.
It will be in multiple parts so...
I guess I'll talk about my favorite part so far (no this is not a book
about religion it's a fantasy) When Sodom and Gamorrah were condemned
into hell God cast the cities into rubble. But two women survived, only
by the curse of Lucifer. He damned them (or saved them as he would have
called it) to eternal life living off each mortal blood. The woman were
lovers, and should have died with the rest of the masses, however in
their haste to be with each other they damned themselves to a much less
desirous fate.
I guess that's as far as I'll explain at the moment. Still working on
some quirks.
I will definitely be paying attention to yours. It's just the kind of thing I like to read.
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oct. 3, 2008 - 16 03
Name: Carissa
Novel Title: The Grey Metal Box
Years doing NaNo: This will be my sixth year.
Favorite flavor of ice cream: Peppermint
1 interesting fact about you: I got nothing. Honestly. I can't think of anything particularly interesting about myself. Maybe that's the interesting thing?
Would you be able to participate in a Kick-Off held on Oct 27 (Monday) between the hours of 5-9 at all? Yes.
Synopsis of your novel: A florist inherits a steamer trunk filled with ancient Egyptian artifacts from French relatives she never knew she had. When strangers come after the artifacts, she must solve the mystery behind who first found them and who wants them now and why. And the why can get her killed.
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oct. 3, 2008 - 16 38
Name: Kim
Novel Title: Rebecca's Journey (maybe - who knows, lol)
Years doing NaNo: This will be number 2
Favorite flavor of ice cream: Um Napoleon Dynamite from Ben & Jerry
1 interesting fact about you: I am 6 months pregnant!
Would you be able to participate in a Kick-Off held on Oct 27 (Monday) between the hours of 5-9 at all? If you can make it for any portion of the kick-off, please state this. Also, if unable/able to make the Oct 27th would you participate in a Oct 31st Write-In between the hours of 11:00pm-2am the next morning? I doubt it. I have a 6 year old and am on partial bed rest.
Synopsis of your novel: Book worm quiet girl drops her life to move to a new city to find her missing sister and teams up with a quirky vice cop to delve into Portland's underbelly. He brings out her outgoing side. Together they discover a human trafficking ring and along the way fall for each other. I write romantic suspense.
Kimberly Walsh
----------www.kimberlydwalsh.com
www.kwalshdesigns.com
Kimberly Walsh
www.kimberlydwalsh.com
www.kwalshdesigns.com
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oct. 4, 2008 - 22 29
Name: Elizabeth
Novel Title: No idea.
Years doing NaNo: This is #4
Favorite flavor of ice cream: Ben & Jerry's Phish Food
1 interesting fact about you: When people find out what I do for a living, many of them want to see me punished
I will probably be able to attend a kick-off, but as for the midnight write-in on 10/31 I believe I have Trailblazer tickets for that night, so I may be exhausted and yelled out, or I may be too depressed to go anywhere. :)
Synopsis of your novel: Chick-lit, relationship foibles, learning to live with someone. I'm making it up as I go along.
I'm new to the city, having moved from Beaverton this summer. As a result I'm really, really not familiar with where things are and how to get there, but I'm learning, with the help of Google Maps and my Tom Tom.
----------2005 - Bulk Dating (Winner!)
2006 - Sailing to Myself (Winner!)
2007 - Untitled Steaming Pile of Poo (Winner!)
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oct. 4, 2008 - 22 33
Name: Melissa
----------Novel Title: Unknown
Years doing NaNo: 0. I signed up a while ago in an attempt to get involved, but I wasn't able to participate until now.
Favorite flavor of ice cream: Uhm, anything with cherry in it. Or Moose Tracks.
1 interesting fact about you: I'd marry Christopher Plummer if he wasn't so much older than me. (Also I am a complete and total TV/Movie nerd. I obsess about people sometimes.)
Would you be able to participate in a Kick-Off held on Oct 27 (Monday) between the hours of 5-9 at all? If you can make it for any portion of the kick-off, please state this. Also, if unable/able to make the Oct 27th would you participate in a Oct 31st Write-In between the hours of 11:00pm-2am the next morning?: Uh, maybe to part of the Kick-Off, but I'm not sure about the Write-In. I don't have a car, I just ride the bus, so I'd have to figure all of that out.
Synopsis of your novel: All I have right now is two characters: Kate, 15, who lost both of her parents in 9/11, and a guy with no name, late-forties, who lost his wife during 9/11 and whose daughter was taken from him by the state after his drinking problem escalated. They meet...that's all I got.
The true dream is being able to dream at all.
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oct. 8, 2008 - 23 04
Name: Kitty
Novel Title: None as of yet
Years doing NaNo: This is the very first :D
Favorite flavor of ice cream: A toss-up between chocolate peanut butter and chocolate mint chip. But then there's also Ben & Jerry's Cherry Garcia ....
1 interesting fact about you: I relocated to the Portland area "sight unseen" from the Gulf Coast after Hurricane Katrina. I was ready to make a geographical move anyway and felt drawn to the Pacific Northwest, but had assumed I'd actually visit here first, to make sure I liked it. Apparently I really needed to be here NOW.
Would you be able to participate in a Kick-Off held on Oct 27 (Monday) between the hours of 5-9 at all? If you can make it for any portion of the kick-off, please state this. Also, if unable/able to make the Oct 27th would you participate in a Oct 31st Write-In between the hours of 11:00pm-2am the next morning?
I live in the Gorge so don't know how many "in-person" meet-ups I'll attend.
Synopsis of your novel: (Just a little information to tease our senses is always good, be as descriptive or not as you prefer.)
Adult siblings come together when their aging parent disappears. They must deal with this family situation together; and it turns that out each of them is also facing a major personal transition of his or her own.
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oct. 9, 2008 - 21 30
Hi Kitty. :) You live in the Gorge? Are you closest to Stevenson, White Salmon, or Goldendale?
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oct. 9, 2008 - 22 28
I'm nearest to Stevenson.
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oct. 9, 2008 - 22 43
So you're at least at this end of the Gorge then. :) I think the closest schedule event we've got are the write-ins at the Washougal library. I'm guessing that's still a bit far for you to come regularly, but we'd love to see you once, just to put a face with your name and get to know you a little bit more.
I'm hoping that next year, we'll have write-ins at more of the libraries. I'm looking particularly at branches that have a writers group meeting already, or branches that I know Wrimos use. Do you ever go to the Stevenson library?
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oct. 10, 2008 - 02 06
The library in Stevenson is lovely, and there's also a sweet little coffee shop on Main Street. Also, I believe there is a writers group over in White Salmon.
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oct. 10, 2008 - 02 41
Name: Andrea
Novel Title: Unknown
Years doing NaNo: 0
Favorite flavor of ice cream: Ben & Jerry's Strawberry Cheesecake, or good old fashion Vanilla
1 interesting fact about you: My current dream is to paint my closet like the Tardis because then I can have wonderful fantasies about the Doctor and Jamie McCrimmon coming to whiz me off into time and space.
Would you be able to participate in a Kick-Off held on Oct 27 (Monday) between the hours of 5-9 at all? If you can make it for any portion of the kick-off, please state this. Also, if unable/able to make the Oct 27th would you participate in a Oct 31st Write-In between the hours of 11:00pm-2am the next morning?
I can go to the Kick – Off but I'm not sure I'd have a ride for the Write-In. I really want to try and go though.
Synopsis of your novel: (Just a little information to tease our senses
is always good, be as descriptive or not as you prefer.)
For the most part I'm going to be winging it like V. (ninjangel)
However I can tell you that it will be dark, tragic and chalk full of stalker-y goodness. . . I think. Twenty-one days is a lot of time to change my mind.
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oct. 10, 2008 - 09 12
Name: Brent
Novel Title: Haven't decided yet. I am always bad with names.
Years doing NaNo: This will be my first.
Favorite flavor of ice cream: Mint Chocolate Chip
1 interesting fact about you: I am a twin.
Would you be able to participate in a Kick-Off held on Oct 27 (Monday) between the hours of 5-9 at all? If you can make it for any portion of the kick-off, please state this. Also, if unable/able to make the Oct 27th would you participate in a Oct 31st Write-In between the hours of 11:00pm-2am the next morning? I should be able to make it on the 27th, but not the 31st.
Synopsis of your novel: (Just a little information to tease our senses
is always good, be as descriptive or not as you prefer.) I kind of think of it as an adventure-fairytale. A young man finds himself on board a ship with an eccentric crew headed for a part of the world where magic rules, not science. The setting is something like our 16th century Age of Exploration.
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oct. 10, 2008 - 10 10
Name: Amanda
Novel Title: No title
Years doing NaNo: This is my first, though I'm not writing
Favorite flavor of ice cream: Mint chocolate chip
1 interesting fact about you: I'm a karaoke fanatic, among other things (don't worry, I won't hurt anyone's eardrums =D).
10/27 Kick-Off and/or 10/31 Write-In?: At the moment, it looks like I'll be able to go for both.
Synopsis of your novel: I wish I could say I'm writing, but I'll be fundraising, instead. Of course... I've been known to get caught up in the flow of things. Who knows? **Smirk.**
**Wave!** Hi, Nancyness! Hi, Brent! **Wave!** Can't wait to read some of your stuff.
Yay for stalker-y goodness!
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oct. 10, 2008 - 15 25
**Wave!** Hi, Nancyness! Hi, Brent! **Wave!** Can't wait to read some of your stuff.
Yay for stalker-y goodness!
Hehe It is quite wonderful <3
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oct. 10, 2008 - 21 21
Yay, Amanda and Brent are here! Now, where's Monica...
Brent, every time you talk about your story, it amazes me. I can't wait to read it. :)
Heh... I bet you get caught up in the writing, Amanda. *whistle*
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oct. 11, 2008 - 16 47
Name: Kayla
Novel Title: Illusions
Years doing NaNo: 2006, 2007
Favorite flavor of ice cream: Peppermint
1 interesting fact about you: I've played the Prince in Romeo and Juliet.
Would you be able to participate in a Kick-Off held on Oct 27 (Monday) between the hours of 5-9 at all? If you can make it for any portion of the kick-off, please state this. Also, if unable/able to make the Oct 27th would you participate in a Oct 31st Write-In between the hours of 11:00pm-2am the next morning?: Not. Sorry.....
Synopsis of your novel:
Here’s the basic gist of Illusions:
It's a about this girl named Kirra, who is found by a Seeker one day after she accidentally unleashes these magical powers that she never knew she had at school, accidentally killing a boy.
The Seeker takes her to this magical boarding house in an alternate dimension. Oh, and this boarding house is only for girls. At first, Kirra doesn't realize it, but the headmistress of this boarding house is pretty evil. Her own magic is weak, so she is trying to find a girl with enough power to summon a Shadow. (Kinda hard to explain, but it's sorta like a ghost, just more... solid? Not as ephemeral? I can't really explain it.)
When Kirra realizes what the headmistress really wants her to do, she runs away from the boarding school and starts to live with a group of traveling players. There, she meets Stephan, the guy she falls in love with. She also meets Mitchell, a young boy who can create illusions, and is the brother of Cara, a girl who goes to the magical boarding school.
Using the illusions that Mitchell can create, as well as some help from more friends she finds, she goes back to the magical boarding school to "fix what was wrong." Pretty much, get rid of the headmistress and get each of the girls back to where they came from.
Yeah, that’s about it. I don’t know exactly what’ll happen at the end yet.... XD
----------I think. I dream. I write.
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oct. 11, 2008 - 20 26
Name: Alisha
Novel Title: I don't know yet.
Years doing NaNo: This will be my first.
Favorite flavor of ice cream: Tillamook mudslide! Or chocolate chip cookie dough.
1 interesting fact about you: I broke my tailbone on water by jumping from the top deck of a boat.
Would you be able to participate in a Kick-Off held on Oct 27 (Monday) between the hours of 5-9 at all? If you can make it for any portion of the kick-off, please state this. Also, if unable/able to make the Oct 27th would you participate in a Oct 31st Write-In between the hours of 11:00pm-2am the next morning? Probably not the 27th, but maybe the 31st. Depends on my as-yet-undeveloped Halloween plans.
Synopsis of your novel: I have three completely different ideas warring with each other at the moment...I'll let you know as soon as I do.
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oct. 11, 2008 - 23 58
This story looks awesome. I'm definitely interested in hearing more about it.
Novel Title: Illusions
Years doing NaNo: 2006, 2007
Favorite flavor of ice cream: Peppermint
1 interesting fact about you: I've played the Prince in Romeo and Juliet.
Would you be able to participate in a Kick-Off held on Oct 27 (Monday) between the hours of 5-9 at all? If you can make it for any portion of the kick-off, please state this. Also, if unable/able to make the Oct 27th would you participate in a Oct 31st Write-In between the hours of 11:00pm-2am the next morning?: Not. Sorry.....
Synopsis of your novel:
Here’s the basic gist of Illusions:
It's a about this girl named Kirra, who is found by a Seeker one day after she accidentally unleashes these magical powers that she never knew she had at school, accidentally killing a boy.
The Seeker takes her to this magical boarding house in an alternate dimension. Oh, and this boarding house is only for girls. At first, Kirra doesn't realize it, but the headmistress of this boarding house is pretty evil. Her own magic is weak, so she is trying to find a girl with enough power to summon a Shadow. (Kinda hard to explain, but it's sorta like a ghost, just more... solid? Not as ephemeral? I can't really explain it.)
When Kirra realizes what the headmistress really wants her to do, she runs away from the boarding school and starts to live with a group of traveling players. There, she meets Stephan, the guy she falls in love with. She also meets Mitchell, a young boy who can create illusions, and is the brother of Cara, a girl who goes to the magical boarding school.
Using the illusions that Mitchell can create, as well as some help from more friends she finds, she goes back to the magical boarding school to "fix what was wrong." Pretty much, get rid of the headmistress and get each of the girls back to where they came from.
Yeah, that’s about it. I don’t know exactly what’ll happen at the end yet.... XD
To lose someone you love is to alter your life for ever. You don't get over it because 'it' is the person you loved. The pain stops, there are new people, but the gap never closes. How could it? The particularness of someone who mattered enough to grieve ----------
To lose someone you love is to alter your life for ever. You don't get over it because 'it' is the person you loved. The pain stops, there are new people, but the gap never closes. How could it? The particularness of someone who mattered enough to grieve
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oct. 13, 2008 - 12 15
Name: Cameo
Novel Title: No idea.
Years doing NaNo: I'm a NaNo virgin
Ice Cream: I love love love ice cream in general but Baskin Robbins Choc Chip Mint is my fave! Or the Chocolate Oreo Twisted Frosty from Wendy's rocks too!
Interesting fact: My husband and I adopted our daughter from Guatemala. The whole process was the worst thing I've ever been through. I had to live for 9 months knowing my child was 3000 miles away living in a below par orphanage. Hardest thing ever. Thank God she's been home now for almost a year! Yay!
Participate in KO: Probably not.
Synopsis: No idea. I'm going to let it write itself, which is usually how I write.
you can find out more about me at my blog, http://thefamilytiesthatbind.blogspot.com
----------I'm a mom to a 21 month baby girl, wife, sister, daughter and many other things to many other people. I'm writing as a selfish thing for ME.
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oct. 13, 2008 - 22 56
Hello Cameo!
Welcome to NaNoWriMo! You couldn't have started in a cooler town.
Are you up for being fostered this year (as it is your first) and allowing someone to show you the ropes? Or would you prefer to do your own thing?
If you do want to be adopted please let us know in the adopt-a-newbie post in the regional forum. We'd be happy to help you out, and be your encouragement this year.
----------To lose someone you love is to alter your life for ever. You don't get over it because 'it' is the person you loved. The pain stops, there are new people, but the gap never closes. How could it? The particularness of someone who mattered enough to grieve
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oct. 13, 2008 - 23 01
Hello Alisha!
Welcome to NaNoWriMo! We're excited to see you up and around in the forums.
If you decide to come to the Kick-Off party you won't regret it. It is likely, however, that on the 31st you will meet a few of the group.
Also, since you're new to the scene, if you would like to be adopted by a more seasoned member please let us know. We want to help in anyway we can. Please sign up (if you decide to) in the adopt-a-newbie thread.
I love Tillamook Mudslide ice cream! Something about the fudge, me thinks. Though, more recently I've been a sherbet/sorbet person. I had this huge gillato kick and ever since I've been searching for fruity ice creams that are similar in taste to what my fav's were. They should have a lemon gillato icecream come out. Oh man, now I need to find a place that serves it. I'm having a ice-cream fit.
----------To lose someone you love is to alter your life for ever. You don't get over it because 'it' is the person you loved. The pain stops, there are new people, but the gap never closes. How could it? The particularness of someone who mattered enough to grieve
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oct. 13, 2008 - 23 04
Hello Amara!
Your story DOES sound good. I don't think you should apologize for anything. Really, it's your baby. So, why shouldn't it be exciting to you? Just a little tip, if something is exciting for you, it's likely to be exciting for someone else.
Name: Amara
Novel Title: Haven't decided on one yet
Years doing NaNo: 2007
Favorite flavor of ice cream: Peppermint Candy
1 interesting fact about you: I almost went to Space Camp when I was a kid.
Would you be able to participate in a Kick-Off held on Oct 27 (Monday) between the hours of 5-9 at all? If you can make it for any portion of the kick-off, please state this. Also, if unable/able to make the Oct 27th would you participate in a Oct 31st Write-In between the hours of 11:00pm-2am the next morning? I honestly have no idea.
Synopsis of your novel: A "zombie" story that focuses on our ridiculous obsession with being politically / ethically "correct" in times of peril & the aftermath. I promise it's more exciting than it sounds :
To lose someone you love is to alter your life for ever. You don't get over it because 'it' is the person you loved. The pain stops, there are new people, but the gap never closes. How could it? The particularness of someone who mattered enough to grieve