'biblical' as a descriptive word in a fantasy setting?

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'biblical' as a descriptive word in a fantasy setting?

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Okt 4, 2008 - 19 44

So the sentence is basically "That was before the bombing; before the biblical-Fucking-storm.

Now I know biblical can be used in the secular sense to mean a religious book, but in this sense I need a word there that has the serious gut-level connection, as in it brings to mind fire and brimstone, ancient times, primal force, etc. I think for the average american reader 'biblical' is the only word that works on that level; 'epic' or 'massive' or something else just doesn't cut it.
So. Fantasy setting. Using the word biblical - legal or no?
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Okt 4, 2008 - 20 36

What's the name of a popular holy text in your fantasy world? I'd use that, instead. It'll help really immerse your reader into the fantasy world you're creating.

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Well the only thing really approaching that is a really old, dry work by a professor that's sort of cherished by the academia; like their version of Atlas Shrugged or War&Peace. And the name is 'Of The Sublime and Beautiful', which is a little unwieldy and doesn't really have the same descriptive quality.

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Okt 4, 2008 - 20 59

Honestly, unless you have a Christian Bible in your setting, it's going to sound out of place. When people use the word "biblical" as a colloquialism, they're generally referring to the Christian Bible... not just bibles (little b). Perhaps "mythic", "epic", "divine" proportions instead?

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Okt 4, 2008 - 21 09

Yeah I agree that it's out of place, but I dunno. None of those hit the gut-level as hard with the reader; that one sentence is supposed to describe the sense of awe all the characters are in at everything they just went through, and the crazy primordial massiveness of what they've seen.
Maybe I'll just leave it and put a footnote for Future-Me who's working on the second draft. Between zombie and robot apocalypses, I mean.

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Okt 5, 2008 - 15 10

The problem is that I don't associate 'biblical' with the sort of thing you want it to. You say 'biblical-fucking-storm' and I try to think of various storms from the Bible and put them in context with what's going on in the story, and I'm just left feeling confused. I honestly sat there for five minutes going "... the flood? no, obviously not ... Sodom and Gomorrah? Nooo, that wasn't a storm ... uh ... what could they possible mean? o__O"

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Okt 5, 2008 - 23 04

My personal inclination would be to use "epic" in this context, but perhaps I have just spent way too much time on the internet lately. :) ("That epic-fucking-storm was totally full of fail, dude, we got pwned like nobody's business!")

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Okt 6, 2008 - 05 17

In general, I'd say it's fine to use "biblical" as an English translation of the word in whatever language your characters really speak, meaning "of or pertaining to the holy scriptures".

The thing with "biblical" though, is that it conjures up for us - to quote Ghostbusters - "real, Old Testament, Wrath-of-God type stuff".

If your holy text is called "The Sublime and the Beautiful", then it may not have too much of that kind of thing. So your characters wouldn't use their equivalent word to describe a powerful storm, because that's not an image that it would conjure.

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Okt 6, 2008 - 06 04

Yeah that's sort of what I meant. I *want* a word that conjures 'old-testament wrath-of-god-type stuff'. Dogs and cats living together; Mass Hysteria!

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Okt 6, 2008 - 09 38

What about apocolyptic or something similar? That's usually got the fire and brimstone, primal, gods and end of the world-esque feel to it and retains the religious type massive scale without the actual bible.

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I wouldn't use the word bible, personally. It's like using Spartan to describe a room in a world where the Spartans don't exist. (Granted, I don't know the etymology of the word bible.) Instead, I'd say something along the lines of "apocalyptic-fucking-proportions."

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Okt 7, 2008 - 06 17

I'd leave it well alone in a fantasy setting. To be honest, I don't find it a particularly hard hitting word in any context.

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Okt 7, 2008 - 15 29

teknoarcanist wrote:
Yeah that's sort of what I meant. I *want* a word that conjures 'old-testament wrath-of-god-type stuff'. Dogs and cats living together; Mass Hysteria!

Then you need to use an appropriate "wrath of god" term from whatever culture you have built.

And to me, "biblical" as a descriptor has so many connotations to overblown hollywood B movies, that it lacks any "wrath of god" punch - it just means that something was pretty big and people are trying to make it sound bigger than it was.

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