No Vampires?

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How many of you our there are stabbing a friggin stake through the overly popular (don't know why) vampire novel by not writing one? It's my understanding that there is only one good vampire writer out there and her name is Anne Rice.

That being said, I applaud all of you who have taken the steps into originality and are working on something that has absolutely NOTHING to do with vampires or werewolves, or werewolves that date vampires who have things for regular humans, or vampires who can't vote cause the Frankenstein in office won't consider them real people.

Bravo to you,
and to the rest of you who ARE writing a vampire novel this year... good for you dot dot dot BUCKET OF SUCKFISH.
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Hatin' the vampire craze huh?

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hear, hear!

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How do you not write about Vampires and have a word count of 37k by Day 8? Good lord - Do you drink blood like caffeine and stay up all night?

Who are you Murgento? Or should I ask, WHAT are you?

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aahhhh Smcbride of the Pasedena Players Club Collective. I would only consider myself lucky if I required blood to survive.... though it would be quite awkward around the parents. But a party at the American Red Cross, don't get me started on the joys in that.

Were you implying that I was Canadian in your message?

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You know, now that you mentioned this, one of my characters is a novelist so I think I will say she wrote a vampire novel just for you. Although, I think I will leave out the sparklies.

Oh and since I haven't read that series, are the werewolves glossy?

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Nov 8, 2009 - 10 13

Well, I'm writing a book about the undead.

It's a simple Boy meets Girl, Boy Dies, Zombie Rescues Girl love story.

No vampires. Lots of blood and some dead body feasts, however.

== John ==

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I once asked my copy of Dracula, "What did you start?!"

The vampire craze is ridiculous. Way to make something previously awesome and sexy so overplayed that it's boring and laughable, vampire craze!

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John,
Bravo to you sir. Zombies need more recognition. They are all out for brains and what not... but so was the Scarecrow in Wizard or Oz but nobody persecuted him for his needs? You know what I mean. Plus, I'm pretty certain my old roommate was a zombie.... always heard weird moans coming for their room. hmmm, who knows!

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murgento wrote:
John,
They are all out for brains and what not... but so was the Scarecrow in Wizard or Oz but nobody persecuted him for his needs?

Consider my mind blown. Much appreciated.

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murgento wrote:
but so was the Scarecrow in Wizard or Oz but nobody persecuted him for his needs?

Sounds like you have a plot for your next book, murgento. Wizard of Oz and Zombies. Legions of undead flying monkeys. A wicked vodoo witch of the west. Just promise you will turn that little yapper dog into an hors d'oeuvre by mid way please.

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Correction: Sounds like YOU have a plot for you next book.

As long as you promise to include that after the Evil Witch of the West was crushed by the house, her feet kept moving and eventually crawled out from under the house of course; very much flattened. But she was still able to walk around torturing the town until the Lollipop Guild grew some balls and had her hung for improper use of brain. And Hannibal Lecter should be the Wizard. Please and thank you.

Heh.

You Kats are the coolest, yo.

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DeltaFoxtrotZulu wrote:
murgento wrote:
John,
They are all out for brains and what not... but so was the Scarecrow in Wizard or Oz but nobody persecuted him for his needs?

Consider my mind blown. Much appreciated.

I will get the mop and bucket accordingly.

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murgento wrote:
DeltaFoxtrotZulu wrote:
murgento wrote:
John,
They are all out for brains and what not... but so was the Scarecrow in Wizard or Oz but nobody persecuted him for his needs?

Consider my mind blown. Much appreciated.

I will get the mop and bucket accordingly.

Hey get that mop out of here. I brought straws.

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Murgento,

Canadian? Confused.

But I admire the Scarecrow - Zombie reference. Well done!
And 40k! Holy Crap! The Pasadena Players Club Collective gives you a round of applause. Our highest member is only at 24k and I just completed a dance of joy for passing 10k.
So despite your anti-Vampirism, you're an inspiration to us all.

And who insulted Toto? Cairn Terriers rock! One of them is currently sleeping on my legs. :)

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Okay first of all, YAY for not writing a vampire book! but I'm not against people that do....they can do whatever they please and write whatever they want.

Now for the thing I really wanted to say. I think that drkkgt and murgento are geniuses, and if one of you doesn't write that novel I might cry because that sounds like the coolest thing in the entire world.

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Hmmm, the Zombies of Oz - sounds like fun

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Twilight is the greatest book ever written. (That's supposed to be a joke.)

And I saw one scary werewolf movie last night, DOG SOLDIERS. Whoa.

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Ok, now I can't concentrate on my current novel. All I keep hearing in my head is a bunch of zombie munchkins saying, "Follow the grey slimy road. Follow the grey slimy road."

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"I'll eat your brain my sweetie, and your little dogs too"

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I love it!!!!

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DeltaFoxtrotZulu wrote:
"I'll eat your brain my sweetie, and your little dogs too"

buahahaha!!

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I am guilty of writing a vampire novel for NaNoWriMo. Twice.

I never got into Twilight at all and I tend to avoid both the books and the movies like the plague. I'd never even heard of the books until someone in internet land mentioned them and it spawned this whole Twilight related thread. The first thing I ever heard about the books? The vampires sparkle in sunlight. My first thought was something along the lines of, "You're joking right? Please tell me you're joking." Right then and there I decided I wanted nothing to do with the series.

That being said, I find it interesting just how much the vampire genre has changed since it was first introduced. People tend to forget that vampires began as monsters and there was never any doubt that they were the bad guys. None of this oh he's misunderstood bull crap. Personally, I blame Andrew Lloyd Webber for starting this trend. Yeah, that's right, Andrew Lloyd Webber. Anyone who's seen The Phantom of the Opera and compared it to the book by Gaston Leroux or even the 1925 film with Lon Chaney knows exactly what I'm talking about.

The difference between the Phantom (or Eric, if you like) in the broadway show and the Phantom in the book is striking. In the book, the Phantom is a physically deformed, mentally disturbed, homicidal maniac. There's hardly a shred of sympathy for the guy. But in the broadway musical he's a gifted, mysterious, emotionally haunted figure with a ton of sex appeal. To be honest, I'm not sure if it was really Webber who came up with this new version of the Phantom as there were several film adaptations made before the musical and I haven't seen all of them. But Webber's Phantom can certainly be credited for popularizing this modern version of the Byronic hero.

My argument here is that the very same phenomenon has occurred within the Vampire genre. We've watched them evolve from genuinely scary monsters to prissy, useless, pretty boys. In my opinion, Meyer's vampires are the wussiest creatures ever created. Actually, I'm thinking of a much more adult word than "wussy" but I'm not gonna say it on account of this being an open forum. Vampires will continue to evolve over time to suit the wants and needs of the reader. But love them or hate them, they're here to stay. Even if Stephanie Meyer did ruin the genre for everyone else.

If you're looking for some good fiction featuring vampires but not necessarily central to vampires, I highly recommend Kim Harrison's The Hallows series.

Sorry for going all English major on your post. The love/hate relationship that centers around vampires in fiction is something that genuinely fascinates me. But it's late and I should be in bed. In the words of Yakko Warner, "Goodnight, Everybody!"

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Nov 10, 2009 - 06 37

Okay, no vampires... zombies seem to be acceptable.

How about porcupines... from space?

Even if they get nicknamed Sporkupines?

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omouse wrote:
Okay, no vampires... zombies seem to be acceptable.

How about porcupines... from space?

Even if they get nicknamed Sporkupines?

If they're called Sporkupines then I sincerely approve.

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ksaldria wrote:
I am guilty of writing a vampire novel for NaNoWriMo. Twice.

I never got into Twilight at all and I tend to avoid both the books and the movies like the plague. I'd never even heard of the books until someone in internet land mentioned them and it spawned this whole Twilight related thread. The first thing I ever heard about the books? The vampires sparkle in sunlight. My first thought was something along the lines of, "You're joking right? Please tell me you're joking." Right then and there I decided I wanted nothing to do with the series.

That being said, I find it interesting just how much the vampire genre has changed since it was first introduced. People tend to forget that vampires began as monsters and there was never any doubt that they were the bad guys. None of this oh he's misunderstood bull crap. Personally, I blame Andrew Lloyd Webber for starting this trend. Yeah, that's right, Andrew Lloyd Webber. Anyone who's seen The Phantom of the Opera and compared it to the book by Gaston Leroux or even the 1925 film with Lon Chaney knows exactly what I'm talking about.

The difference between the Phantom (or Eric, if you like) in the broadway show and the Phantom in the book is striking. In the book, the Phantom is a physically deformed, mentally disturbed, homicidal maniac. There's hardly a shred of sympathy for the guy. But in the broadway musical he's a gifted, mysterious, emotionally haunted figure with a ton of sex appeal. To be honest, I'm not sure if it was really Webber who came up with this new version of the Phantom as there were several film adaptations made before the musical and I haven't seen all of them. But Webber's Phantom can certainly be credited for popularizing this modern version of the Byronic hero.

My argument here is that the very same phenomenon has occurred within the Vampire genre. We've watched them evolve from genuinely scary monsters to prissy, useless, pretty boys. In my opinion, Meyer's vampires are the wussiest creatures ever created. Actually, I'm thinking of a much more adult word than "wussy" but I'm not gonna say it on account of this being an open forum. Vampires will continue to evolve over time to suit the wants and needs of the reader. But love them or hate them, they're here to stay. Even if Stephanie Meyer did ruin the genre for everyone else.

If you're looking for some good fiction featuring vampires but not necessarily central to vampires, I highly recommend Kim Harrison's The Hallows series.

Sorry for going all English major on your post. The love/hate relationship that centers around vampires in fiction is something that genuinely fascinates me. But it's late and I should be in bed. In the words of Yakko Warner, "Goodnight, Everybody!"

If you ever want to make someone laugh: go to Borders, pull out one of these "twilight booky things" and read any random page in the book, and I assure you, every person ever will laugh their aces off from the over abundance of cheese. I'm talking Cheddar, a big ole' melting block of cheddar. A shame I say, but humorous to me nonetheless.

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murgento wrote:
If you ever want to make someone laugh: go to Borders, pull out one of these "twilight booky things" and read any random page in the book, and I assure you, every person ever will laugh their aces off from the over abundance of cheese. I'm talking Cheddar, a big ole' melting block of cheddar. A shame I say, but humorous to me nonetheless.

Oh, I know, believe me. My 14 year old cousin is really into the books and has explained some of the major plot points to me. Like the fact that Edward watches Bella sleeping at night through her window. That's not attractive, that's creepy! I also don't understand the attractiveness of all the vampires being cold to the touch. Why would you want to fantasize about sleeping with a popsicle? Why???

The one good thing I consider to come out of these books is the fact that my cousin loves the books but hates the movies. So now at least she understands exactly how I feel whenever one of my favorite books is made into a crappy film.

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Ahh.. there is a very very brief mention of vampires in my story. Sue me. xD
And the main character's best friend is a werewolf and a bit of the plot has something to do with wolves--but it's very dissimilar from Twilight or anything, really. >>

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omouse wrote:
Okay, no vampires... zombies seem to be acceptable.

How about porcupines... from space?

Even if they get nicknamed Sporkupines?

do they arrive in a spacecraft shaped like a spork??

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Can I just say that reading this thread has made me crack up so loud, that the zombies heard me and are now trying to knock down the door! Damn it! See what you made me do????

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rickie wrote:
omouse wrote:
Okay, no vampires... zombies seem to be acceptable.

How about porcupines... from space?

Even if they get nicknamed Sporkupines?

do they arrive in a spacecraft shaped like a spork??

No, but they've infested an abandoned space mining colony, and they do shoot metal quills out of their posteriors. My MC gets hit with one and they find out they're also temporarily psychedelic and paralytic.
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