Hey everyone!
I am in dire need of a non-cliched, avian advisor/companion for one of my villains!
A raven is no good though, because I already have one for another character...
But yeah, preferably a bird with darker symbolic/mythical meaning would be best, because of the alliance with my villian.
I honestly can't think of any at the moment, so any and all suggestions are greatly appreciated! Thanks so much!!
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A vulture?
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An owl, maybe, or a particularly fierce kind of eagle or hawk.
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Not necesarily mythical, but you have:
----------*Cowbirds which lay their eggs in the nests of other birds (sometimes destroying or original eggs) - when the cowbird young hatch, they usually hatch earlier and are bigger that the host young and push them out of the way of the food the foster parents bring back causing the real young to starve to death (or they push the newly hatched out of the nest altogether - splat!)
*Magpies- a rep for stealing shiny objects
*shrikes - take their insect prey and impale them on briars
*geese can be particularly nasty, if you can overcome the comic stereotype
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African grey parrots -- supposedly spirit guides, preternaturally smart, and half in this realm/half in the other. Associated with the dead, with protection, with wisdom, and with (if I recall correctly) trickery, and some are said to establish telepathic bonds with their people.
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The common cormorant, or shag
Lays eggs inside a paper bag.
You follow the idea, no doubt?
It is to keep the lightning out.
But what these unobservant birds
Have never thought of is, that herds
Of wandering bears might come with buns
And steal the bags to hold the crumbs.
Not sinister...but the first thing I thought of. But if the story corresponds with your plot (villain does something strangely logical, rather less intelligent heroes come about and muck it up), I heartily recommend it.
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A night heron could be cool. They're nocturnal, and their scientific name means night raven
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I think in some North American Indian myth cycles, the Blue Jay plays the role of Trickster - not necessarily evil but not someone you would trust.
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A crow, perhaps? Maybe that's too much like a raven, though.
You could also go with a cardinal.
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Mynah birds. The common hill mynah can learn a vocabulary on par with an African Grey, and is considered by some to have a clearer speaking voice. There are associations with the Mynah in India as a messenger of the gods.
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Ravens are said to be wise, and sometimes able to talk, but they're usually on the side of good. No reason you can't have a badarse raven, though.
Thunderbirds?
Roc? (but I think they're huge, so mabe not...?)
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'ow bout a Rook? Or a thrush *nods to Tolkien*
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Nightengale
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Magpie
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Think outside the bun...give him a chicken. I dare you.
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There's always the peacock's association with Hera... ;D
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Really outside the bun - a winged snake.
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Hm, does it have to be a bird? How about a sugar glider? :) I've never seen one of those as a pet in a book, and they're reeeeally cool.
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Really outside the bun - a winged snake.
Or if all the familiars are corvids (crows, ravens, magpies the most common) make the villain's an albino, missing feathers, a blood red beak, one eye etc...
Terry Tempest Williams' Sanctuary has lots of birds convenveniately sorted into chapters for you.
Let us know what you decide.
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How about a sparrow. But one with the ability to magically multiply itself. Ever seen a flock of sparrows chasing a crow or raven? Just keep making more sparrows until Alfred Hitchcock cries "Enough!"
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Thanks so much everyone! =DDDDD
Lol, I LOVE the chicken suggestion. xDD That would be freaking hilarious. =P
I can't choose between the chicken, a magpie, parrot, nightingale, eagle/hawk!!! Ahhh!!! All of them would work so well with my villain...maybe a hybrid cross between all of them??? Lol...it might work though...hmm...
A bird with the characteristic klepto-rep of a magpie, the awesomeness of the chicken (LOLZ. That made my day btw. xD), the powers of the parrot, the voice of a nightingale (maybe I can change it into something sinister...), and the fierceness of an eagle/hawk?? A Parkenpiegaleawk???? Lol, this IS fantasy after all...^.^
I like the idea of having a winged lizard/other animal as a familiar, but it doesn't work with me villain...>.> Maybe with another character though???
But anywayy, THANK YOUU!!!! I really appreciate all your suggestions! ^.^
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Thanks so much everyone! =DDDDD
Lol, I LOVE the chicken suggestion. xDD That would be freaking hilarious. =P
I can't choose between the chicken, a magpie, parrot, nightingale, eagle/hawk!!! Ahhh!!! All of them would work so well with my villain...maybe a hybrid cross between all of them??? Lol...it might work though...hmm...
A bird with the characteristic klepto-rep of a magpie, the awesomeness of the chicken (LOLZ. That made my day btw. xD), the powers of the parrot, the voice of a nightingale (maybe I can change it into something sinister...), and the fierceness of an eagle/hawk?? A Parkenpiegaleawk???? Lol, this IS fantasy after all...^.^
I like the idea of having a winged lizard/other animal as a familiar, but it doesn't work with me villain...>.> Maybe with another character though???
But anywayy, THANK YOUU!!!! I really appreciate all your suggestions! ^.^
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Lol, I LOVE the chicken suggestion. xDD That would be freaking hilarious. =P
I DOUBLE dare you >:D I've got a little red Bantam rooster who thinks he's a freaking Thunderbird, and he's EVIL! He'll stalk you around the yard and tries to stare down my horses. When he's mad he sticks his neck feathers up and looks like a weird red umbrella. He'd love to be a scheming evil minion. And just think how much fun he'd have waking everyone up at one in the morning. ----------
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I think Roosters along with goats and cats were some of the animals most frequently identified as witches familiar spirits. Its also one of signs associated with the Chinese Years
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My vote goes either to a pterodactyl, or to a flamingo.
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