For a sweet bit I made a vampire and a werewolf fall in love. As I was writing in study hall, my friend asked me what I was doing. I responed with, "Implying that a werewolf and a vampire had sex." At first she thought that the werewolf was the female and she said "You should make her pregnant." I politely told her that the woman in the relationship was the vampire. My friend blinked twice and said, "Yeah so?"
So now for a bit of comedy, my moody, depressed, Italian vampire, who swore never to fall in love is now pregnant. I need someone (I've asked a ton of people, and I need an answer that is slightly funny). Help!
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Nov 8, 2009 - 17 24
LOL Wow! What a premise! What were you needing? I didn't understand the question. :)
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Nov 8, 2009 - 17 28
I figured it out that I would just leave my characters (and my readers) in the dark about how it was possibly, though I may hint at that it happened because the father is a werewolf.
I needed like a funny explination as to why it could happen.
Yeah, I'm naming the baby Arlecchino which is where we get Harlequin from.
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Nov 8, 2009 - 17 39
I still dont get your question.
You have created a world where Vampires (and werewolves) exist.
If you decide that vampires can get pregnant (by werewolves), then vampires can get pregnant (by werewolves).
There is no issue as far as I can see.
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Nov 8, 2009 - 17 54
I think the issue is that standardly vampires don't get pregnant. Ever. Except in really bad stories, which I believe this author is trying to avoid.
Honestly, though, since a vampire is essentially a walking, talking corpse, I don't see how it could be plausible.
Unless, of course, you go with an Anita Blake-esque explanation: She was undead for a short enough amount of time to still have a living egg inside of her. That's the excuse she used for the way a male vampire could get a human girl pregnant: that they still had some living sperm.
Other than, I don't know.
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Well, I had a post but the website ated it.
How old is she? Could she have frozen her eggs?
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Nov 8, 2009 - 18 44
Maybe. Just remember, it is just a comedy bit that has no real prevalence a storyline that's going to get pretty heavy.
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Nov 8, 2009 - 19 33
Again, if you are making up a world where vampires exist, you can make your vampires be able to get pregnant. That some people who have tried have faild to do so to your standards does not mean that it cant be done well or that the OP needs to "explain" anything other than the vamp is preggers.
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Nov 8, 2009 - 19 54
Again, if you are making up a world where vampires exist, you can make your vampires be able to get pregnant. That some people who have tried have faild to do so to your standards does not mean that it cant be done well or that the OP needs to "explain" anything other than the vamp is preggers.
This is true.
But the author posted their question, and I was trying to answer it. Yes, my answer may have been harsh, and likely not what the OP particularly wanted to hear, but I did include an actual answer.
And in my opinion, if you're going to be changing something so fundamental to the nature of a vampire, yeah, it does need an explanation. It's like making guys pregnant, but not saying how it happened.
Because, let's face it, corpses don't get pregnant.
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Nov 8, 2009 - 23 02
What do you plan to do with this novel?
If it's just for fun, do what you want to do. It doesn't matter.
If it's for eventual publication, then, yes, people probably will raise eyebrows if it's not explained in some way. Vampires don't usually get pregnant. However, I don't think it's necessarily the "corpse" part that's problematic. Anne Rice's vampires simply don't have any fluids other than blood in them, so they wouldn't be able to support life. But assuming that your female vampire still has all her organs and fluids, there's really no reason that the womb couldn't be "animated" in the same way that the rest of the body is. Problem is, does that mean she breathes? Are all her organs active? If so -- what is the difference between a vampire and a human, in terms of physiology? If not, then why are her sexual and reproductive organs active while others aren't? It's not like vampires don't have other ways of reproducing (I'm assuming your vampires have some method of making other vampires out of humans). Is getting pregnant really important to the plot? If not, you'll likely need to remove it when you do revision anyway, so then again, it doesn't really matter how or why. And if it IS important to the plot, well, then you're going to need to think about why this story is about a vampire and not a human. What about being a vampire is essential to the plot? And then, does that contradict the ability to become pregnant? All of these questions, and just thinking about the nature of "vampire" in your story should help you come up with your OWN reason. We can't really give you a reason, because they're your vampires.
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And then, too, you're going to have to figure out what kind of baby she's having. Probably not vampire, since, again, you probably already have a method of making vampires out of humans (unless you don't -- maybe they can become pregnant BECAUSE that's the only way to get more vampires, but again, I'd then wonder why you weren't writing a story about a human instead). Would it be the father's species (i.e. werewolf?) Or, if both werewolves and vampires start as humans, would the baby be human? And again then, why? Why would vampires have the capability of creating more humans? Wouldn't that mean that all they had to do was have sex and get pregnant to "make" their own food? I guess that's sort of like plants and photosynthesis, but it's kind of a dark and disturbing sort of idea. . . of course, that does make it somewhat fascinating. But I'm not really sure that's where you're going with this. And it makes them more into "cattle raisers" than predators, too, which brings it back to my main problem: it seems too human.
I guess what I'm really getting at in all of this is that, aside from your friend's comment, I don't really understand why she would be pregnant, why vampires would be that human, why you'd want to make them that human rather than just writing about human characters.
Again, if it's just for fun, go with it, have fun, and don't worry about the reasoning. There's a lot of crazier stuff than pregnant vampires in NaNo novels.
But if you are really serious about WANTING (that is YOU, not your friend) her to be pregnant, you're going to have to think about all the ramifications about it, and come up with your own answers.
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Nov 9, 2009 - 06 14
It may turn out you have to reinvent the vampire. For instance, vampires may not actually be undead, but rather suffer from some kind of disease and blood is the only way to hold it off.
You wanted funny, though. I suck at being intentionally funny, but the things that immediately come to mind are:
undead->death->bones
warewolves->dogs->bones
[translated for pg rating] using the word bone as slang
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Nov 9, 2009 - 08 07
Babies, at their basest level, are parasites feeding off the fluids and tissues of their host (i.e. Mommy Dearest).
Who's to say that the vampire baby in this story couldn't be a particularly vicious parasite, feeding on the living or undead flesh of it's mother? Given the regenerative capability of vampires, she'd be able to survive if she had a steady supply of blood (her werewolf boyfriend, not to mention I imagine werewolf blood would be several times better than the bland human alternative.)
So what if it's a vicious cycle? Baby eats mom, Mom eats Dad, Dad eats the local neighbors to keep up his strength. :) I'm sure all kinds of humorous spins could be taken on a scenario that completely ludicrous. XD
Edit: Owait, I think the OP was asking how to GET the bun in the oven in the first place. Man, this is the new millenium! There's artificial insemination or in vitro fertilization. The good 'ol fashioned way works fine, too. I'd imagine that the werewolf's contribution to the process would be much more aggressive than a normal human's donation. The fact of the matter is no one REALLY knows werewolf or vampire physiology, so you're quite free to make stuff up. That's the joy of writing fantasy, no one really has the factual data to say that you're wrong.
It's ultimately YOUR story. Who cares what ages old stigmas about vampires say (omg, vampires can't get preggers!), sometimes you have to flex your creative muscle and reinvent the wheel.
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Nov 9, 2009 - 08 21
I like Writerholic's answer....
One thing that bothers me with any of the threads regarding vampires are the people who think that there is only one correct answer regarding any question with vampires. There are many types of vampires - lore from all over the place, some of which conflicts with lore from some place else.
There is vampire lore regarding half-vampires - dhampirs existed in the lore. Now, I always figured that if the male vampire could cheerfully impregnate some poor girl, there's a chance of the reverse happening as well. Make your vampire pregnant if you want to!
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Nov 9, 2009 - 08 37
Amelia atwater-rhodes did one about that called "demon in my view"
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And the vamp got pregnant while she was still human (this was written pre twilight by several years, btw) then was changed, then her humanity was restored and she had the baby, which was a sort of halfling.
Thiss a little different from your premise, but perhaps it would be helpful.
I like the parasite idea, tho. very "peeps"
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Nov 9, 2009 - 09 38
Because, let's face it, corpses don't get pregnant.
And corpses don't walk and talk, either.
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Nov 9, 2009 - 13 47
Check out the Vampire D novels- they feature a dhampir who is the decendant of Dracula.
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Nov 9, 2009 - 20 47
Because, let's face it, corpses don't get pregnant.
And corpses don't walk and talk, either.
This is so what I was thinking.
Really? Only one explanation is needed. Assertion 12 says...
IT'S MAGIC.
Now, if you have limits on your magic that prohibits this, then yes this would be a tough sell. But really, Magic. If it's within your magic's possibilities, than anything can happen.
Oh, but if you have a scientific explanation behind your vampires, than yeah. Tougher sell there. Than again... *wrinkles nose in thought*
With my vampires... well, they are alive to begin with, so I don't have the corpse problem. They need to drink blood (or excessive amounts of pure magical energy) to survive (each with their own benefits and costs with blood probably being more beneficial.) and babies are extremely rare among their kind. Mostly because in order to become pregnant and sustain it, they need excessively more amounts of human blood to supply enough life energy in their system to give the baby a kick start and to sustain it. It took one couple over 100 years to have one kid.
Really, as long as you give good cost/benefits and have it make some sort of sense then fine. Fantasy has to make sense within context, but not in the real world sense. Otherwise vampires would not exist period. (Seriously. Blood has like, no nutritional value whatsoever. Unless there is a magical explanation there is no reason for them to drink it to sustain themselves.)
So just have fun, create some ideas. I would need to know more about your world and how things work to answer more, but I hope this helped some.
I think the difficult thing will be trying to figure out the powers of the kid. My suggestion? Have magical inheritance work a little like genetics. Spiritual is tied to the physical after all, why not have them parallel each other? Though do not confuse this with trying to make Magic genetically explained. That is just hard in the real life world. And kinda silly in most cases.
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Nov 9, 2009 - 21 34
You could try explaining vampires as a different race in their entirety, similar to Rob Thurman. In those books, vampires happen to look like humans, but are actually a separate race that breed all on their own. (They aren't dead either, I don't think.) They happen to have a sensitivity to light (so they go out more at night), are extremely long-lived, and need to drink blood as a part of their biology.
On a different note, if you're going to have a half-vampire creature, please make it a dhampir. That's what dhampirs ARE.
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Nov 10, 2009 - 17 31
Because, let's face it, corpses don't get pregnant.
And corpses don't walk and talk, either.
Alright, alright, I'm gonna go ahead and throw in the towel here. You're right, corpses neither walk nor talk, and they certainly don't drink blood.
I suppose I'm just too much of a traditionalist for this thread. And by traditionalist, I mean that I prefer my vampires to be of the undead soulless monsters who suck the blood of helpless victims and fry in the sunlight and are of course devastatingly sexy variety, before anybody mentions anything about there being no such thing as traditional vampires.
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Nov 11, 2009 - 00 12
Traditionalist huh? Dracula walked around in the sunlight and didn't fry, the frying part came much later, just sayin'. :P ----------
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Nov 11, 2009 - 08 03
This may or may not help. In the tv series Angel they had Angel's old flame get pregnant both of them were vampires. But for those that know the series Angel was a vampire with a soul. I might have this a little off not sure, but the reason he was able to impregnant her was cause of a prophecy and the curse of him having a soul, but she could not give birth to the child, she went into labor but the baby started dying inside her. In order for her to give birth to the baby and save the baby they had someone stake her through the heart so she died but the baby than lived. So you could always say cause the werewolf has a soul the soul is what creates the child.
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Nov 11, 2009 - 09 41
Because, let's face it, corpses don't get pregnant.
Hey, Joss Whedon made Darla pregnant in "Angel." Just saying that there is precedent.
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Nov 11, 2009 - 10 18
Agreed that we dont see enough of these types of vampires!
Although I think there are far too many HOMG HAWT!!!1!! vampires.
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Nov 11, 2009 - 10 18
The problem with any genre is there are always going to be "purists" who think they know better than you. They'll draw on key phrases like "traditional" or "canon" or "how it's supposed to be"... they'll do their best to try and bully you into writing YOUR novel by what THEY perceive as right and true for the genre. Many writers I've known get defeated by purists, they get tired of being told they CAN'T write their novel because it doesn't fit with this aspect or that aspect of various material that came before them.
The very heart of truth to this matter is: This is all FANTASY. The joy of fantasy is you can do *whatever* you want with it. You can make your Vampires daisy-hugging hippies with a penchant for goat's milk if you really wanted to. You would encounter a LOT of criticism from purists, but that's just something you have to weigh against the enjoyment you'd get out of writing the story. If you're writing for the sheer joy of it, for sheer want of it... then write whatever you feel and whatever comes to mind. It's YOUR world and YOUR story, don't let anyone take it away from you.
If you're writing to be famous or to be a best-seller, then by all means, submit to purists and join the rank-and-file.
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IIRC, that was very special case, though. His vamps can't normally procreate.
Half-vampires are not unheard of, as dhampires are folkloric creatures, though I think the dhampir is usually born to a human mother and a vampire father a la Twilight. I suppose in the end it depends on your vampire mythology. If your vamps are animated enough to have bodily fluids and functions, I don't see why you can't make it work.
If your father is the werewolf, and he's got regenerative abilities, just say that his super-awesome-regen-sperm overpowered/fixed the vampire's dead reproductive organs. You wanted funny solutions rather than serious, right?
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lol daisy-hugging hippies. I have a vampire like that XD Really fun to write ;)
But yeah, I agree, you need to do what makes you happy. If having a vampire and werewolf biologically be able to make babies makes you have fun with your story, do it. That's all there is to it. Do not bend to someone's whim just because it's not in line with traditional lore =D
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